Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Peek-a-boo Well Nintendo said they're not selling NX at a loss so I'd imagine $250.

@GrailUK This is not a micro console released to enhance the features of two main consoles. This is a horrible monster of trying to mix too many odeas that shouldn't be.

That is super interesting, actually. Probably just him being extremely stubborn, but still interesting because he must realize he'll look like even more of a fool the longer he continues to support his theory and is proven wrong. Makes you wonder if perhaps he does know something else. Seems highly unlikely in the face of the organizations supporting the Nvidia rumor, though. (Did someone say the Wall Street Journal just published something?)

If the Eurogamer rumor is true, the improvement from 3DS to NX would be absolutely huge. The 3DS has a ARM11, while the X1 has A57, many generations more advanced than the ARM11 (Cortex A57 > Cortex A15 > Cortex A9 > Cortex A8 > ARM11).

@Grumblevolcano yeah I'm expecting $249 as well.

@Vinny You could also spin it around and say that the improvement from Wii U to NX may well be somewhat underwhelming.

The 3DS was arguably outdated - specification wise - when it was very first released, especially considering its technologically superior competitor, the PS Vita, was only released eight or nine months later.

NX rumour talk

@GrailUK So are you suggesting that the NX could be God?

At $250, it would be basically the same price as Wii U and something like $50-$60 cheaper than New 3ds. In the case of 3ds it might be seen as an upgrade, but what about the Wii U? The chipset we are talking about (x1) is about the same power level as the Wii U. If you are not interested in portability, what does a Wii U owner benefit from this?

@Therad "What does a Wii U owner benefit from this?"

New games of course and that's where Nintendo's 9 month Wii U drought strategy comes in. Color Splash is all Wii U owners have to look forward to from after June 24th 2016 outside of the odd indie game and DLC release until the NX launches.

@Therad "What does a Wii U owner benefit from this?"

Basically, the ability to play new Nintendo games, which for me, is what I want to continue doing. Also, as @skywake said a couple pages back, can we please get straight on the power stuff.

This Tegra x1 chip is NOT "about the same power level as the Wii U." It's definitely better than Wii U levels. That's just a fact. It's going to be a bump UP from Wii U processing power. And that's not even taking into account that Nintendo (according to this blasted rumor) is not going to be using an Android OS, so as the tech heads are saying, will be able to run the chip "from the metal," giving it even more power. Screen resolution will also factor into this. And the slight possibility of the X2 chip will factor into this (highly unlikely).

So can we just keep that clear in the discussion from now on? Because it does make a huge difference in the assumptions people are making about this machine.

@rallydefault plus I imagine the screen will be 540p as well. I think the box will have a mini processor as well. Nothing crazy just power the i/o and help scale games to HD on the TV.

@WebHead Anything less than 720p would be tremendously disappointing in this day and age.

My Grandad has a cheap but cheerful mobile phone that has a 768 x 1280 display for £59/$79.

@Peek-a-boo maybe certainly not higher than that though.i could see a 6" 720p screen

@WebHead @Grumblevolcano

$249 is a bad idea after the 3DS launch. If it's going to be sold as a handheld first, home console second, then it needs to be lower than that as people will expect handheld pricing.

$229 should be the absolute max, $199 is the sweet spot.

It remains to be seen if it will have a massive boost. But even if it is x1 (before launch people usually talk up specs), it would still be behind the current power twins. Both will probably get a price cut when their revisions shows up. So it is quite possible that the NX will have the same price as them, and be an inferior home console. Which is one of the more common complaints about the Wii U.

And if they only have 2 detachable wiimotes as controls, we have clunky control scheme as well. Now we only need inferior third-party support, and we have the Wii U again (which is bad for nintendo, if not for us)

I might still pick it up. But if they don't have a standalone home console, it might take a while.

Except this isn't really a good thing, it is planned obsolence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

@Therad well...yeah. the system is a dead platform. Move on.

@IceClimbers However Nintendo said NX will not be sold at a loss, your suggestions would almost certainly be a loss. I could see them using a solid launch lineup (unlike 3DS) to try and justify the higher pricing.

@Therad

No, of course nobody ever said "massive" boost, but it is well within the realm of possibility that, with some of the tweaks being mentioned, it will end up somewhere between current Wii U and Xbox One power, leaning even a bit more toward the Xbox One end. And that's completely discounting the possibility of its being X2. If it is, then they may be able to get pretty darn close.

But let's be realistic: As Nintendo gamers, why are we getting so up in arms about the power of the thing? Nintendo has been making spectacular, award-winning games on the 3DS for crying out loud, and that thing's operating with who-knows-what processing and negative 15 gigaflops (sorry - just trying to instill some perspective here). The bottom line is that tech has evolved, and pretty much no matter what Nintendo chooses it will have more than enough power to handle running the games they make.

The obvious kerfluffle is the 3rd parties. So yea, that's the discussion to have.