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Topic: USB Fight Stick: no remapping allowed

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tripletopper

I'm having trouble getting my Nintendo switch to remap my fight stick ever since I got it back from the shop.

Whenever I try to select settings then controller then remap controller it says my controllers unable to be remapped.

By the way the my controller is a custom USB fight stick with a Brook Universal USB interface when being used with the Switch.

I don't exactly have the fastest internet so I don't know where or how to update the Brook if necessary.

tripletopper

SwitchForce

Did you contact the controller site about this? This isn't a Nintendo product from Nintendo so you need to go to their site and find out about mapping the controller.

SwitchForce

tripletopper

Well I assumed the controller mapping feature was "sysyem wide", not a Nintendo-specific thing. I know Xbox One lets you use remapping on all controller brands as an OS feature, but has 2 problems I can see.

Also before, 2 joycons in a grip are now seen as 2 controllers, not one. Maybe fixing that error will allow fight stick remapping.

Also where am I supposed to go for a digital remapping circuit of a custom made ambidexterous fight stick?

tripletopper

SwitchForce

Switch OEM doesn't have Flight Stick. Check with manufacture about those settings. Re-Mapping only works if it supports the Switch O/S otherwise if not it will not work correctly.

SwitchForce

tripletopper

@SwitchForce first, it's a Fight stick, not a flight stick, though those are imlrotant too.

Second i tried using a Hori Pad and THAT was unremapplable. Nintendo says they are looking for licensing, when in reality they are locking out either Wired USB controllers or ones without Amiibo readers.

The Pro controller only works wirelessly (or so I'm told) and only it has an Amiibo reader (or so I'm told). Nintendo said it's up to controller manufacturers to keep up.

I try to call Hori about this issue. No answer.

I try emailing them. Their email answered a tangential question and wasn't really reading every word in the letter, and gave a general comment about getting its stuff working, but didn't address the remap issue.

Now what?

tripletopper

SwitchForce

Not Flight stick then. But then again if it's not a Nintendo Device one still has to contact manufacture but if the games itself doesn't support the Fight Stick then nothing can be done about it. This goes to the Game developer to make the support for the Fight Stick not Nintendo. If the manufacture doesn't want to update then get your refund and find another can will work with using the Fight Stick.

SwitchForce

tripletopper

Yes but who makes a right-handed fight stick? The only time a right-handed fight stick ever appeared on a Nintendo system was before it became known as a fight stick and was known as an arcade stick. It was made by Beeshu, and they were denied licensing supposedly because they offered right-handed controllers. The only controller that was licensed that fits that description was the nes Beeshu Super stick, and the two reasons why they allowed that was because there was also a Turbo Grafx and Genesis version of a similar stick, and what later be bankrupted bishu was the fact that they were using mirrored buttons cause the price difference to go up by the time Street Fighter 2 came out, doubling the buttons of the Genesis controller therefore doubling the difference in price.

So literally the only way I could get a right handed joystick for any non-NES system is if I violate Nintendo's licensing policy.

I heard that warranties cannot be denied if unlicensed products are used through the USB because Nintendo doesn't wholly own the USB standard therefore it doesn't control the licensing to make it USB compatible.

tripletopper

dmcc0

@tripletopper It seems that only 1st party controllers are compatible with the remap function on Switch. My 8bitdo controller does have a re-map function via software/app though, so not impossible on 3rd party devices. Worth reaching out to Brook to see if they have something similar.

A bit drastic maybe, but I guess as a last resort you could always just rewire the buttons to get them where you want them. Not exactly practical if you're going to be constantly remapping, but if you use the same button layout for a few games, or only use the stick for a particular game then would be worth it IMO.

Edit: there's a user guide for the UFB available from www.brookaccessory.com/download/ that shows all the connections. Pretty simple - just swap over the wires so the buttons are where you need them.

Edited on by dmcc0

dmcc0

SwitchForce

You need to contact Nintendo Support and ask them this question.

SwitchForce

ralphdibny

@tripletopper I've definitely remapped third party controllers before but it was honestly so long ago that I really can't remember which controllers it was and which adapter I used if any.

The adapters and controllers I have are the

8bitdo GameCube/Wii adapter (no usb on it)
Mayflash S Pro
The original Retrobit USB Saturn/Mega Drive controllers (that weren't compatible with Switch so I used the Mayflash pro to connect them)
Bluetooth Retrobit Saturn/MD controllers which don't require an adapter and I believe are remappable.

I also have the Mayflash F300 Elite fight stick and I am pretty sure I have remapped that one too.

The only suggestions I have is to try and use it without the Brook adapter. The Switch works with way more controllers than people realise. If the Stick itself has a switch that changes from X Input to D input or any other options then try that with or without the adapter.

You may have some luck with the Mayflash S Pro adapter but I don't have the same stick as you so I can't test it and in good conscience recommend you laying out any money for it. Not sure if it would require an update anyway (PC only, i nearly broke mine trying to update it with Mac)

Edit: I found this Reddit link which may be of use...

Edited on by ralphdibny

See ya!

dmcc0

@ralphdibny Unless I'm reading the OP wrong the Brook Universal USB Interface isn't an adaptor, but rather the PCB used in the custom controller. Might work with a 3rd party adaptor like the Mayflash you mentioned, but couldn't recommend it without knowing for sure it worked.

I've never actually tried to remap my 8bitdo using the Switch software - good to know it's possible if I ever need to do it. I've actually got a Hori mini fight stick too that I'll have to try, but given there isn't a Hori controller in the compatibility list, I doubt it'll work.

dmcc0

ralphdibny

@tripletopper @dmcc0 ohhh fair enough. I don't have experience with the Brook internal PCB.

I have tried a few of my controllers out today though just to see what would work and how well my memory served me...

Original Retrobit USB Saturn Pad /USB Mega drive pad - doesn't work at all with or without the Mayflash S pro adapter (I might as well sell these 😅)

8bitdo Pro Wired for Xbox - works with S pro adapter and buttons are remappable (appears as Pro controller)

Retrobit Saturn Bluetooth controller - no adapter required, works OK and buttons are remappable (appears as Pro controller)

USB Mega Drive controller that came with the Mega Drive Mini - works with S Pro adapter and buttons are remappable (appears as Pro controller) (this must have been the mega drive pad I remembered remapping!)

NSO N64 controller - direct to Switch, buttons not remappable. Couldn't connect it to S Pro adapter (tried to bypass the button remap lock but failed)

Generic USB N64 controller - doesn't work at all with or without adapter

Generic PS3 style usb controller from Argos (£6) - works with S Pro adapter and buttons are remappable (shows as Pro controller)

PS Classic Mini USB controller - works with S Pro adapter and buttons are remappable (shows as Pro controller)

Mayflash USB Classic Controller adapter - doesn't work either direct or with S Pro adapter (tried with NES Classic controller, Wii Nunchuck and Wii Classic Controller Pro

Official GameCube adapter with GameCube controller - works but can't be mapped

Wii Guitar Hero Controller w/8bitdo Gbros adapter - this works and is remappable! The analog stick doesn't work but I've been playing some four button Pianista with it just now 😅

See ya!

ralphdibny

At the very least, my tests show that everything I've connected via the S Pro adapter can have the buttons remapped. Whether that's true of all devices, I don't know as my as my sample size is limited.

However it has shown that not every controller can connect the the Magic S Pro adapter as roughly half of the controllers I tried to connect to it didn't work

See ya!

tripletopper

May I have Information about the Mayflash Remapper.

I've have tried a similat PS2ayflash remapper. It only seemed to remap sone of the buttons. For example, you couldn't invert the stick for righty play. I know, I tried it on my Street Fighter 15th Anniversary stick. Luckily, my sinister stick has a left stick plug and a right stick plug. So all I need are buttons.

Is the new Mayflash device compatible with USB joysticks? Because I'm only familiar with the Mayflash PS2 model remapper.

Also I heard that not all the triggers are remappable on the Mayflash PS2 version. Is that corrected on the Mayflash USB version?

tripletopper

tripletopper

A strange thing happened.

At first, my Sinister Stick WAS remappable, then on the first Bluetooth Audio update, they changed the program around and made it no longer compatible.

I pinpointed it to a specific update. It was when Bluetooth headphones and microphones were first added.

tripletopper

ralphdibny

@tripletopper it's not a remapper, it's a controller adapter that allows you to use unauthorised controllers on various systems. It's called the

Mayflash Magic S Pro

I just had a look on Amazon US and they only have a Pro 2 for sale, I can't say anything about it because I only have the Pro (I'm assuming 1)

The remapping is done with the Switch system software. While I was able to remap all the controllers that worked with the S Pro adapter, not every controller worked with it unfortunately.

See ya!

tripletopper

I remember Maylash made a button remapper for the PlayStation 2 that was very limited. And that's only used the default PlayStation 2 controller.

My switch fight stick controller is a USB controller. Are you saying his device does treat unauthorized controllers like authorized controllers, and will let me do the button remapping.

Well first I'm going to try the free solution of updating my Brooke Universal USB fight stick pad. If that doesn't work then maybe I'll try that once you confirm that it will work with my Brook Universal USB fight stick, unless updating the brook gives me control back to my buttons.

tripletopper

tripletopper

UPDATE: now my Brook Universal USB no longer works at all on my Nintendo Switch, but does work on my Xbox One and Xbox 360.

Also my Macintosh doesn't recognize it for updating the firmware.

tripletopper

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