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insertcoin2play

Anyone find out if there's a way to hook the Switch up to a TV with some USB-C to HDMI cable adapter? It would be convenient to do that if you were out and about and found yourself in a situation where you wanted to hook it up to a TV but left your dock at home, or simply to cut down on what you bring with you.

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KirbyTheVampire

I don't believe there's any way to do it without the dock.

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gcunit

KirbyTheVampire wrote:

I don't believe there's any way to do it without the dock.

If the Switch sells enough, don't be surprised to see third party docks/cables that could do the job.

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KirbyTheVampire

gcunit wrote:

KirbyTheVampire wrote:

I don't believe there's any way to do it without the dock.

If the Switch sells enough, don't be surprised to see third party docks/cables that could do the job.

Yeah, that's true, but doesn't the dock have additional cooling? Even if it does though, I'm not sure how much of an impact that has.

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insertcoin2play

Hmmm. Yeah, might be more difficult to do if there's additional cooling in the dock. I thought the Switch was only using heat sinks.

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DaltonM

I'm pretty sure the switch has a vent. Who knows what the software in the Switch will be built like.
I'd be more interested in a USB C dongle with power and HDMI than a dock. Makes the system even more portable, I'd stand it up with the stand for cooling

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gcunit

I guess it could be an issue for cable-only solutions. If Switch is just designed to recognise the usb-c connection before jumping from 720p to 1080p, then it might create an issue somewhere.

But if it's more complicated than that and the Switch needs something else in the dock to be present before jumping to 1080p, then a cable-only solution could work fine, but prior to TV would be at 720p.

Are there any decent cases on sale designed to accommodate the dock and power supply lead?

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LzWinky

How would anyone know now? We don't even know what the dock really does.

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insertcoin2play

Who knows. Just something to discuss while we wait. You never know what little bit of info might be missed from some obscure interview out there.

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skywake

TheLZdragon wrote:

How would anyone know now? We don't even know what the dock really does.

Well actually we do and....

KirbyTheVampire wrote:

Yeah, that's true, but doesn't the dock have additional cooling? Even if it does though, I'm not sure how much of an impact that has.

No it doesn't.

The Switch itself uses Display-Port alt-mode for the USB Type C port on the base. So there should be no reason why any other hub that uses that same alt-mode wouldn't work. There's no extra cooling going on or anything. It's litterally just a hole for the air intake. This is all in the patents but probably the easier proof is to just look at a picture of the dock itself.

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How well it plays with third party USB Type C hubs is anyone's guess. There are some, for example, that work well on Windows but don't like Mac. I assume the same would be true with the Switch. Specifically I wouldn't hold my breath for the Switch supporting stuff that isn't on the dock itself. Ethernet jacks, card readers and so on you can get in some USB Type C hubs. But... it's a fairly standard setup, there should be plenty of options for display conversion from USB Type C.

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Luna_110

Plus, you have another problem if you had a cable to directly connect the Switch to the TV - how do you charge it?

In docked mode, the dock recognizes the Switch's signal and upscales up to 1080p and transmits to the TV, it charges the device and allows for USB accesories (like the Wired LAN adapter). So, if you were using the Switch connected to the TV you wouldn't be able to charge the console, and in three hours you would be out of battery.

From what I've seen in pictures, the dock isn't that big, if you really need to bring it along.

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Silly_G

There are plenty of bags and cases that will be available at launch that can hold the dock, Switch, spare controllers etc. Prices will vary depending on your needs though. I'm tempted to pick one up, though I might just grab a simple case so I can take it with me, rather than a large case, as I doubt that I will be carrying the dock around with me (at least not until Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and FIFA are released).

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skywake

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In an article translated from French to English about an interview translated from Japanese. I'm not sure how reliable those sort of details are. And even if they were I'm not sure Nintendo would be encouraging you to buy random third USB Type C hubs. Some of them aren't going to work, not all follow the same standard.

Until it's confirmed otherwise I'll err on the side of some hubs working. Especially given that it's using a USB Type C connector and outputing a Display Port signal that's being converted to HDMI. It's all pretty standard stuff.

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Quite a lot of those USB Type C hubs pass through power. Those devices are there for laptops mostly, some of which only have USB Type C ports. No power or anything, just USB Type C. The Switch isn't the first device on the market with a single USB Type C port that needs power and I/O.....

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shani

Any news on this?
Apart from buying a USB-C extension cable, I found only this:

Hopeyfully someday there will be a USB-C to HDMI adaptor/cable with a separate connector for the power supply (just like some HDMi-out cables for android phones/tablets).

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GoronBrudda

shani wrote:

Any news on this?
Apart from buying a USB-C extension cable, I found only this:

Hopefully someday there will be a USB-C to HDMI adaptor/cable with a separate connector for the power supply (just like some HDMi-out cables for android phones/tablets).

I agree entirely. I've seen already people bringing out 3rd party docks that don't have the rails, but all of them I've seen so far just have the TypeC bit, and not the HDMI connection. I was checking on amazon the other day for all the other accessories I could get with the 15% off orzly voucher that came with my glass screen protectors, and I came across a dock they will hopefully do soon which kinda works how the WiiU dock did, which I quite like. (but doesn't look like it's out yet, so I'll have to keep checking back until they finally release it, if they ever do). The reason why I think this is new is the images don't look anywhere near finished yet, and no-one seems to have reviewed it yet. But I like all their switch stuff so far, so I trust them to make a good one if this ever finally comes into fruition. This is the link to it so I can keep watching it.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071XSS8RL
(please let me know anyone if you spot this one go live before I do)

However, as the way the switch dock cuts directly into TV mode is handled by software, I don't think a 3rd party dock would work in that way. However, as the method used where the female cable passes through Nintendo's hub anyway, connecting one of those 3rd party docks up to it directly using the female TypeC cable connected directly to the switch dock would totally be a good workaround that would get around that problem, as that way the switch dock's built in functionality would still kick in, and you wouldn't have the problem of worrying about the switch accidentally getting knocked on the rails. Obviously it's not the ideal solution, as a proper all-in-one dock with HDMI and the TV auto-cut-in functionality they could probably never do would have been the ideal method. But at least there are ways to go about it if need be.

Let me know if anyone ever tries anything like this though. I'l be sure to post back if and when I try it myself. But where there's a will, there's a way.

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