Also before anyone says “the PS2 sold 160m” no it didn’t.
It's a fact they didn't sell 160 million because the number on the last system produced said 160 million and change. That's all systems created.
Now.
Account for all the systems that were sent out as replacements for units broken under warranty, or as a paid service replacement. All units produced account for all of that. They account for systems given away, they account for dev kits, they account for warranty replacements, all that jazz.
It absolutely is not equivalent to units shipped/sold. We may not know how many of those produced units fall into those other camps, but it's likely about 5 million, meaning about 0.65% of total units sold/shipped were replacement units, giveaway units, lost inventory, etc.
They are being incredibly disingenuous and people are eating it up. There's a reason their numbers were at 155m for a decade after they ceased production. Because that was the actual number shipped/sold. If they had really sold more, those numbers would have been accounted for back in 2012.
And look. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day. It's just bragging rights. But it's for that very reason it irks me so much. It's the most petty thing I've ever seen in my 3+ decades as a gamer.
Surely then with that in mind that makes the PS2 even more impressive because portable games consoles get broken, dropped and easily damaged so one person may have to buy replacement units separately. The PS2 was a reliable console and didn't have a lithium ion battery pack that wears out or a screen to smash. It was a home console so its replacement numbers should be far, far less. So with that in mind it makes the PS2 numbers far more impressive. I have to add I'm not a fan of the PS2 myself I much preferred the original xbox, gamecube and dreamcast of that generation. I remember reading that in Japan many people have replaced their Switch's multiple times because they use them everyday for their commute and they get damaged and dropped and if I remember rightly one person was reported to have replaced their Switch 6 times. You only have to look at the Switch 1 sales numbers in Japan to see how high they are even this late into the generation. They mainly use the Switch 1 as a portable game system with commuting being the most common time to use them it seems. Maybe its different in other countries but here in the UK it seems like 1 in 15 people or something like that are using a mobile phone with some sort of damage on it like a big crack on the screen or worse. Using devices portably will obviously mean more damage on average. I tend to be quite careful with my stuff but use a android tablet strapped to my exercise bike so I've got something to watch when cycling and remember knocking the android tablet off and it hitting the floor and from them on the screen would no longer respond to touch and the case came apart a bit. So I had to replace it and that was just in the house. Looking online it looks like a portable device like a smartphone or android tablet lasts 2-7 years. So 4 years on average. I personally own 3 Switches. My original Switch in pretty rough condition, my Switch Lite (my main out of the house device) and my Switch OLED (around the house device). When I had a PS2 I had one PS2. I should add for fairness all my Switches were bought second hand though.
However it is worth noting that according to Wikipedia the PS2 had 4344 games while the Switch to date is at 4052, which excludes stuff like Arcade Archives and NSO Classics
I can never tell what that Wikipedia article is counting as 4,000 given that the actual Nintendo.com webpage mentioned when they hit 10,000 unique games... years ago.
The Wikipedia count would be games with pages which would explain the gap. There's almost surely some omissions there, and probably rightly so given the number of..... not particularly countable releases on the eShop......
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Sure, but how many people really drop or break their system? BILLIONS of people have phones and carry them EVERYWHERE, constantly pulling them out of their pockets and holding with one hand. Way less people have portable consoles, they don't take them everywhere they go, they don't constantly pull them out of pockets and carry one handed while walking down sidewalks, all of them are in carry cases and any damage can be repaired by Nintendo for less than a new system anyways- only catastrophic damage out of warranty would result in an extra sale... it's not even comparable.
Even so, I'll grant you that.
But when you consider PS2 was essentially the cheapest DVD player on the market at a time DVD was booming (Switch had no such feature to boost sales), and the fact it had multiple price drops (Switch not only had no price drops, it had a price increase), and the fact it took PS2 a whopping 12 yrs to reach 155m when Switch has done it in less than 9...
It actually makes PS2 seem less impressive than ever. Not to say it isn't impressive- ANY console selling that much is an incredible achievement, but I fundamentally disagree it's "more" impressive than Switch. Quite the opposite- all things considered, Switch's accomplishments in 75% of the time without any media add-on functionality to drive sales, without any price drops and an actual price increase... seem far, far more impressive.
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