Topic: The Nintendo Switch Rumor and Speculation Thread

@Lugazz that’s pretty much how I see it. But I guess it’s ok. They have a following and questioning them means you’re a negative nelly, a bully, and mean spirited.

I doubt that people thought otherwise.

@COVIDberry You have no idea how many times Nintendo had done this before.

Once, with the 3ds xl. Not a huge revision, but it's still an example.

@COVIDberry Switch Lite was announced July 2019. Ya know, after E3.

They can do it again.

I have no idea, eh, chap?

Please be cautious with your assumptions.

Can you - and @Haruki_NLI, if the latter wishes - explain to me why a post-E3 strategy makes sense? I am not asking if they have done it before, I am wondering about the strategy. Slowdive's response to me provided some food for thought, at least.

@HotGoomba I thought otherwise, but I do have very unrealistic expectations.

If I can't play Series X games in full 3D 4k handheld on the new Switch I'm going to kick off! I will be heading directly to the Nintendo's head offices and will start a protest outside - hopefully they would have gotten the toilets fixed by then, travel gives me a dodgy stomach.

@COVIDberry The thing that drives hardware sales is games.

In fact thats where Nintendo, and every publisher, makes their money: Software.

Show off all the compelling software, and in the case of the Switch Lite, by the way, all those games we showed off, if you want a good gift for the upcoming holidays for those games, here's a budget option for you.

When they revealed the Switch it was very calculated: Show Zelda off at E3 first, then reveal the Switch, and the first game they showed being played on it in that reveal was Zelda. We saw the scope of the game, we were all wowed by it, the second wow factor was "Okay, now this is what you're playing it on."

For a Switch XL, as I believe it will be called, they show all these great games, pushing the limits of the system, third parties can show off their impossible games, and then a month later Nintendo can say "So do you want to make these look even better?" and the consumers, as brain dead as we are, salivate at the idea of the games we have already seen coming this holiday, in higher fidelity.

Its hard to explain. Showing the system first and then the software running as it does, even with comparison, doesnt elicit as much of a wow factor and talk online as seeing the titles as they were, coming to terms with that, and then being hit with the upgrade.

Its a purely psychological thing, as is all marketing.

That's been true upto this latest Gen. Microsoft or Sony are both struggling to meet demand with their new Consoles and neither the PS5 or XsX have exclusive games yet.

@Mr-Fuggles777 PS5 does have exclusives (e.g. Demon's Souls Remake, Destruction All Stars, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank) though the major heavy hitters both current and future for that console are crossgen (e.g. Miles Morales, Horizon Forbidden West, God of War sequel).

@Slowdive It was meant to be.

@Grumblevolcano non of those could be classed as system sellers though.
In fact the Sony lineup pushed me to grab an Xbox instead, it gave me access to a lot of the games I had missed out on last gen via GamePass.

The only reason I was getting a PS5 was for GoW and Stray, now both of those are coming to the PS4 i don't have incentive to upgrade for a while.

@Grumblevolcano Doesn't Xbox have The Medium?

@Mr-Fuggles777 I just wanted a switch the same power as an original Xbox one. Not even a s model.

@Mr-Fuggles777 I’ll fly off to Kyoto and join you once I get my second dose.

@Mr-Fuggles777 I bet plenty of people bought one for Demon's Souls and will for Ratchet & Clank. All depends on who you ask. Here's a better question, why put out a system seller when the console sells on its name alone?

A Switch 2 would probably sells millions even if it launched only with 3-4-Switch.

@sixrings out of curiosity what would be the benefit of that?

It would still be a gen behind so we wouldn't get new cross platform games released without serious downgrades or more older ports for full price.

Switch exclusives already look stunning on the existing hardware - how would games like MHR or Pokemon Snap benefit from being upscaled marginally.

@COVIDberry sorry if that came out as rude.

@Octane both PS5 and XsX were pushing tech forward so people wanted the new toys. I know as I was one of those people.

I bought a Series S because it was the only new console available in the stores and then upgraded to the Series X as soon as I could to see what the fuss was about.

I would.love a .ore powerful Switch but its hard to get excited when it's still going to be a gen behind

@COVIDberry The reason why a post-E3 strategy works is because Nintendo doesn't need an E3 showcase to show off their hardware.

It's been proven many times, especially last year, that gaming companies don't need to rely on E3 in order to show off their new products.

There's probably a much better way to explain this, but I'm stupid so whatever.

@Mr-Fuggles777 That's Nintendo for ya. They don't focus on powerful consoles anymore. And besides, can you imagine an PS5 being shrunken down to a thin little portable device?

Of course Nintendo could make a tv-only Switch, but ew.