For all those interested, FF: MoBW is getting a physical release in Japan and Southeast Asia. The Japanese copy mentions English being supported. However, I'm a little leery of the listing, as a majority of KT releases do not support English (Dead or Alive Extreme 3 and Ninja Gaiden Trilogy being the only exceptions that come to mind). But the Southeast Asia copy? Almost certainly will support English and has the superior box art, imo.
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For all those interested, FF: MoBW is getting a physical release in Japan and Southeast Asia. The Japanese copy mentions English being supported. However, I'm a little leery of the listing, as a majority of KT releases do not support English (Dead or Alive Extreme 3 and Ninja Gaiden Trilogy being the only exceptions that come to mind).
The Asian releases of the Atelier Dusk and Mysterious trilogies also include English support while the Japanese versions only support Japanese (this is contrary to most simultaneous Japanese/Asian releases by Koei, as such Asian releases would typically be identical to the Japanese release). Furthermore, I believe the Asian releases support English and Japanese while the Western eShop releases only support English (maybe to cut the file size a tad?). Meaning that there could be up to three separate builds of these games.
I'm pretty confident that the Japanese/Asian releases of Black Water will support English as I doubt that Koei would produce multiple builds of such a niche game, and the fact that they know full well that much of their Western audience would prefer the option to play the game with Japanese audio.
Incidentally, Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 was not issued a broader Western release (or even an international eShop release!) presumably to avoid the inevitable controversy that it would have attracted, so it's possible that the Switch port of Fatal Frame/Project Zero will be uncensored (as opposed to the censored international Wii U release), and that Koei are shying away from issuing an international physical release to avoid the ire of Western media outlets for similar reasons as DoA:X3 as digital-only games typically attract less media fanfare. Also, the irony of DoA: Xtreme 3 is that DoA:X2 was rated a paltry PG for "Mild sexual references" in Australia! Hypocritically, I imagine that the Australian censors would have issued an MA15+ rating or even an outrageously high R18+ to Xtreme 3 for "Sexualised gameplay" today for the same sort of content. At least two of the Senran Kagura games were rated R18+ in Australia, citing "demeaning sexualised behaviour" (among other reasons), the likes of which I have not observed for any other game. Quite a dramatic shift from the family-friendly PG rating for Xtreme 2!
But the Southeast Asia copy? Almost certainly will support English and has the superior box art, imo.
The main benefit of the Asian copies is that the cover will generally have English text (often with a few typos) and no rating on the cover (though this of course will depend on what specific Asian market the game was intended for). And if we're lucky, a surprise physical trinket.
I would take those listings with a grain of salt. Play-Asia often jumps the gun and adds listings for U.S. and European (and sometimes even Australian) physical releases even when there isn't one. The U.S., European, and Australian E3 directs all specifically listed the game as an eShop release. It is likely that Play-Asia will eventually remove the erroneous Western listings (though I would prefer a local copy if issued).
I'm particularly confounded by this decision to withhold a Western physical release for a userbase of 80+ million, and considering that it is a horror game (which has relatively little coverage on the platform, at least at retail).
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Ya, I've seen Play Asia list NA and EU versions countless times when there wasn't one. Even now, one can find listings for Final Fantasy VIII Remastered USA release.
I'm pretty sure we're not getting one. But I'll wait a bit closer to release before importing, just in case.
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A recap of one of my favourite video game series. I hope that all of these (except the spin-offs duh) are re-released after Maiden of Black Water.
MAIN SERIES
1: ZERO (2001)
Set in 1986.
Three endings: Normal, Hard and Fatal (Fatal Xbox only).
Canonical ending: Normal ending (Easy/normal).
Original version: PlayStation 2 (published by Wanadoo in Europe) and PS Network (NA).
Enhanced port "Special edition": Xbox (published by Microsoft in Europe). Features graphical updates, new ghosts, redesigned interface for the camera and a new "Fatal" difficulty which unlocks an art gallery and a third ending.
2: CRIMSON BUTTERFLY (2003)
Set in July 1988.
Four endings: Lingering Scent, Crimson Butterfly, Hellish Abyss, Promise (Xbox only).
Remake's six endings: Long Road Home, Crimson Butterfly, The Abyss, The Promise, Frozen Butterfly, Shadow Festival.
Canonical ending: Crimson Butterfly (defeat Kusabi in over a minute without having seen the scenes in Chapter 8).
Original version: PlayStation 2 (published by Ubisoft in Europe), PS Network (NA).
Enhanced port "Director's Cut": Xbox (published by Microsoft in Europe). Features first-person play mode, survival mode, new ending, enhanced graphics, greater number of alternate costumes to unlock and a gallery/shop.
Remake: Wii (published by Nintendo). A full remake of the game. It features a dynamic over the shoulder third person camera first used in the fourth game, updated layout of the game, graphics and character models vastly improved, ghosts hands, investigating mechanic with new objects, reworked ghost battles, "Dark Return" blooming, several areas are newly accessible, new costumes, new lines of spoken dialogue coming out of the Wii Remote speaker, mini-maps, reworked maps displaying keyholes. The Camera Obscura has a new viewfinder and re-done controls, a lock on function, a revamped upgrade system, a new way of using lenses, newly created lenses, and the capture circle has been changed from a proximity charge to the standard charge system in every other game. There is a minor two-player mode where a player can take synchro shots and deal double damage as well as hear newly created dialogue come out of the Wii remote. The amount of healing items is decreased and some fights that were optional are now mandatory. A few unexplained occurrences are now resolved and many cutscenes have been added, while several of the original cutscenes have been extended. Endings are no longer determined by what difficulty has been selected but by how you play the game. There are two new endings and a new theme song. A new mode, Haunted House, has been added, a mode in which players slowly walk around a set course in first person and scary events randomly occur, the player can search for haunted dolls while a ghost chases after you, where you can take pictures of ghosts from the game and receive rankings on your spirit level, based on your fear meter that amasses when playing. A second player may attempt to scare you by pressing buttons and causing random events to occur.
3. THE TORMENTED (2005)
Set in September 1988.
Two endings: Normal and Photograph.
Canonical ending: Photograph ending (complete the Echo Stone Earring side quest during Hour X or Hour XII after you have beaten the game once normally).
Original version: PlayStation 2 (published by Take-Two Interactive in Europe), PS Network (NA).
There is no other version of the game.
4: MASK OF THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (2008)
Set in 1980. Explains what happened in 1970 (kidnapping and rescue) and 1972 (catastrophe).
Two similar endings depending on difficulty setting (easy/normal and hard). Misaki's fate is either left unknown, or her illness is cured. No information about which is canonical exists.
Original version: Wii (published only in Japan by Nintendo).
There is no other version of the game. A fan translation patch was released in 2010.
5: MAIDEN OF BLACK WATER (2014)
Set after 1988.
Eight endings: two for Yuri Kozukata, four for Ren Hojo and two for Miu Hinasaki.
Original version: Wii U (published worldwide by Nintendo).
There is no other version of the game... until now! It will be released for Windows, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S, PS4, PS5 and Nintendo Switch on 28th October 2021.
SPIN-OFFS
Spirit Camera: The Cursed Memoir (Nintendo 3DS, 2012)
Real: Another Edition (mobile, 2004, Japan only).
There is also a vocal minority who detest that all the main characters are super attractive young women. Plus the game was kind of marketed too that when the girls hit the water they have a wet look (pretty impressive for the engine at the time) and its the same engine as the DOA games. So there is light, boob jiggle.
Well, that has entirely the opposite effect on me .... I was thinking about getting it whenever it becomes available to pre-purchase, so now I definitely will
Sounds great, count me in too!
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Only ever played Crimson Butterfly, but I do want to check this out. Either on Switch or PC. I know it didn't review well, but I suspect that has more to do with modern sensibilities than quality. Fatal Frame 2 and Silent Hill 2 would both review poorly today if you ask me.
Right, a girl reviewed Maiden of Black Water on Eurogamer and ranked it "Avoid" which is very unusual on Eurogamer's reviews. You can guess why... Yes we all do.
I enjoyed the game a lot. I liked the slow gameplay, the setting and the camera. To fight ghosts, I used to stand up because it is more intuitive but the new version will no longer rely on GamePads @mr_somewhere. Combat will be fine. While I think that Project Zero 2 Remake is better, it also is a real masterpiece and one of my favourite games ever. I, too, hope that they re-release the older games.
I am assuming that last announcement also rules out a physical release for the UK as well. That's a shame. I really want the physical to go with my original PS2 copies and copy of the Wii remake. Here's hoping there's still a chance, if not I am going to keep my eye open for imports.
Sorry for the double post here but just wondering if anyone knows whether or not this is getting that South East Asian physical release? Do we know if that's going ahead and, if so, does it indeed have English support? I would much rather have a physical version of this, if at all possible. I've been a big fan of this series for years and years.
Yeah, a Japanese and Southeast Asian versions will be available. I read that the Japanese release will have a Japanese & English dub, but subs will be Japanese only. Meanwhile, the Southeast Asian copy will be Japanese/English sub and dub.
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Check your email. Today I got a notification that the listed price for a Southeast Asian physical copy has been lowered from $70 to $40. $30 back in our pockets. The delay to November is unfortunate though. https://www.play-asia.com/fatal-frame-maiden-of-black-water-e...
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Well, it says October 28th for Steam version & I think it was the same for the others, @Joeynator3000 .... Dunno if there's some reason it doesn't say the same in eshop but not long to find out
Today I was disappointed to discover that the English sub and dub for both the Japanese and Southeast Asian copies will not be baked into either cartridge. It'll be a launch-day post-patch. Which doesn't matter if you're just buying a copy to play sooner rather than later. But it's unacceptable from a preservation standpoint.
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@Joeynator3000 It's finally available for digital pre-ordering on other platforms stating that it is "Available on 28 October 2021, 00:00". I assume that the date is the same for Switch.
@Magician I understand. It's disappointing (but very common) when cartridges don't include the whole/final game but I think that we should support the commercial resurrection of this IP on the platform of our choice. I pre-ordered the limited edition for Wii U and I just pre-ordered the digital edition on Series X (it's Series X-optimised, in between).
Hopefully, the other titles are re-released as well (it's not necessary to re-release the 3DS game, though).
EDIT:
EXTRA CONTENT
[Pre-order Bonus]
Yuri/Miu/Ren Exclusive Costume: Camera Obscura Hat & Yuri/Miu Exclusive Costume: Witch's Hat
Note: This content is included for free with purchases made before October 27th, 2021. It is possible it will be sold separately at a later date.
[Early Purchase Bonus]
Yuri Exclusive Costume: Ryza Outfit, Ryza Hat
Note: This content is included for free with purchases made before November 11th, 2021. It is possible it will be sold separately at a later date.
[Digital Deluxe Bonus]
● 20th Anniversary Digital Artbook
The special anniversary digital artbook features artwork and BGM tracks from past titles of the PROJECT ZERO series and can be accessed from the game menu.
[Digital Deluxe Bonus]
● Past Protagonists Costume Set
Outfits of various past protagonists of the PROJECT ZERO titles will be available in the game:
Mio Amakura Outfit (from “PROJECT ZERO Ⅱ Crimson Butterfly”)
Rei Kurosawa Outfit (from “PROJECT ZERO Ⅲ The Tormented”)
Miku Hinasaki Outfit 1 (from “PROJECT ZERO”)
Miku Hinasaki Outfit 2 (from “PROJECT ZERO”)
Mayu Amakura Outfit (from “PROJECT ZERO Ⅱ Crimson Butterfly”)
Kei Amakura Outfit (from “PROJECT ZERO Ⅲ The Tormented”)
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