Topic: E3 2021 Discussion Thread

@Henmii
Yea, that was weird for Sony. Though there's not really much for them to show when it comes to 1st-party until 2022 is what I'm hearing. I'm on the hunt for a PS5, so I'm starting to dabble back into Sony news lately.

@Dezzy The New 3DS extra RAM was so several games didnt need to outright turn off the operating system just to have space to load, Gen 7 Pokemon and Smash are notable.

Plus in Pokemon's case, it reduced load times and the extra grunt also improved performance from slideshow in double battles to only a slideshow in some double battles with weather.

Haha, don't sell yourself short, man. From what I've seen and read from you over the years, you definitely know your stuff. We may not always agree, but I've found that at least, discussions with you are always polite and fair.

As for Nintendo: to be honest, I think that it's fair to say that most, if not all of us, would struggle to think of what Nintendo might come up with next. Ever since they moved on from the SNES to the N64, their way of thinking and their subsequent products have gone from weird to weirder, and in my humble opinion, not a single Western company could have predicted, much less could have come up with any of their ideas. And that is basically also why I'm not entirely discounting them coming up with something completely different for the next generation, regardless of the success of their current console.

My take on the Wii U has always been that it would have been a huge success if it had launched 18-24 months earlier (with key titles shifted forwards accordingly) for a few reasons.

The iPad tablet boom was pretty much over and the market saturated with dirt cheap third party models by the time the Wii U launched. If it had come before or on the crest of that wave though it could have been huge.

There were, of course, other major failures of marketing aside from timing.

Going forwards I’d make one observation though - Nintendo never gives up on ideas, they almost always go back. Whether it’s the tablet controller for asymmetric play (Nintendo were experimenting with this as far back as the N64-GBC in various ways) or glasses free 3D (the virtual boy and then the never released GameCube peripheral) or very simplified controls and motion controls. Even the hybrid concept was something they’d clearly toyed with in the past.

If Nintendo does have a new idea post Switch I’ll make one prediction (which is always stupid with Nintendo but I’ll do it anyway…) - they’ll do something they’ve played around with before on a bigger and more fully realised scale.

Maybe those patents for distributed computing will find a use (possibly with something like VR) or maybe they’ll do a lot more with IR scanning to enhance the toys to life experience. Maybe they’ll produce a ROB 2.0 (they absolutely should!). Maybe the vitality sensor will be a big part of it.

Whatever they do I think it’ll have its roots in ideas that a team in Nintendo has already worked on extensively in the past (that might have been completely parked for a decade or more).

@rallydefault

I guess they will do their own event again, but still its strange. From what I have heard and seen this years E3 was pretty bad (Nintendo was actually pretty good, definitely better then I expected). Most games are delayed because of Covid. That being said: Do you have a Ps4? If so there isn't much need for a Ps5 just yet, since most titles also have a Ps4 version (unless you are going for the sharpest graphics, of course). As far as I know the only exclusives so far are Demon souls remake, that sci-fi rogue game I forgot the name from and Ratchet and Clank Rift apart (that one looks amazing). Just saying, its up to you.

I don't think the main things everyone is talking about... that being Metroid and Zelda will be out this year.

At the very least I get the impression Metroid 5 is a lot further in development than what most people thought. I know we wont have to wait until 2023 or something.

I feel like they are kind of in a trap where they feel they need to flex the console's technology. (That being joycon HD rumble and all that.)

It's not a bad thing to present the features of the console but if that means pushing generally below-average content for them, like with 1-2 Switch(bad), Mario Tennis(decent but could have been better), or a lot of the party titles on the Wii U etc. Not that all these games are bad or anything more so that feel too much like in-fill titles or just Nintendo saying... "Hey! we got motion controls!"

People still have plenty of wii nostalgia... So bringing back some form of Wii Sports Resort or Mii games would be a good pitch for the joycon features and sell very well too.

Nintendo hasn't shot themselves in the foot though. What was on display certainly didn't look bad. I would go out to buy the Mario Golf game. I think talking too long about the Zelda Game and Watch was kind of awkward. The games were alright. Third party offerings looked cool. Not their best E3 but I can say its far from their worst and did better than their competition this year.

@puNINTENDed I mean, Metroid 5 is far in development, given it's.. coming out this year? Unless you meant like Prime 4, which isn't Metroid 5..

Also, BotW 2 was confirmed to be aiming for a 2022 release, so it's not coming this year.

@puNINTENDed Metroid 5 is coming out on October 8th. That's only 4 months out, there's no way it's getting delayed to 2022.