Topic: DOOM

@Octane
On that note, unfortunately to use motion you need Move Controllers, which don't have analog.

So either smooth movement via analog and no motion, or motion but with rotating and teleporting.

It sucks. Even the Wiimote would have been capable of smooth analog movement and motion aiming.

@JaxonH There is a solution for that:

Ahh, you did I probably should have read that more thoroughly. My position on this issue games such as DOOM which have been out a year or two should be able to charge full price on new consoles. I personally think 60 bucks for a game such as Skyrim, however, is crossing a line. There is a certain point where the value of a game is lessened beyond repair as it ages.

@Octane
Holy crap, you're right! I even have that controller. For some reason I was thinking it was only compatible with Farpoint, but come to think of it, it just registers as a controller

Dude, thank you. You just saved DOOM VFR for me. Still doesn't solve Skyrim but, at least the motion in that game is less involved

@Shellcore Actually this happens in all media. It's been happening with books since the invention of the printing press. Right now I could find you assorted editions of Bram Stoker's Dracula ranging from a free barebones e-book, to paperback for $4.95, all the way up a 1996 edition illustrated by Edward Gorey that can cost up to $78 in good shape. You pay for the edition you want. If you think $78 is too much to pay for Dracula, by all means buy a cheap paperback or even a free e-book. Nobody's forcing you to buy the Edward Gorey edition.

The same thing happens with music. A music company will do a new edition of the Jimi Hendrix album Are You Experienced? and charge $13.99 for it. A year later the album will be less than $10 everywhere, used copies will be going for a couple of bucks, and a year after that there will be a new edition, same music, same recording, same everything except for new cover art, and it will cost $13.99 again. Want the same exact album on vinyl? $28 please. Want MP3s instead? $9.99.

You know what you WON'T get? A music publisher saying "you know what, this music is old, we should probably only charge a buck for the new edition." I mean, there are new editions of blues recordings from 80-90 years ago coming out all the time at full price. Same thing with classical music.

People can and do vote with their wallets. I'm not going to lie, $60 is a lot of money for me, and I weigh the pros and cons of every game I buy. I could get Doom on PC for a fraction of the price - I'm pretty sure my computer can run it. Or I could wait a while and find it secondhand somewhere for at least $10 cheaper. But I want it on Switch, and I want it now-ish while my hype level is high. I'm willing to pay $60 for that if I have to.

Skyrim Special Edition was priced at $59 on XBox and Playstation when it launched last year. It was new, it was shiny, and it was priced the same as a new game. For a while. Now it's new and shiny on Switch, and it costs.... $59. Again.

@Nintendoforlife I guess that is where I was trying to get to in my comment. Not an attack on the viewpoint of others, but a sensible discussion on where that line should be drawn. Thank you for your thoughts. I do not want to take away from the fact that Doom is a fantastic game which I have previously enjoyed.

@JasmineDragon Thank you for your thoughts. You obviously put a lot of time into your comment. I agree to a point. I feel that the Switch version is the DVD release of a previously released Blu Ray. You don't usually see the DVD version going for more, especially when its a year late to the party (Doom) or a lot longer (Skyrim). If the price doesn't perturb you, then that is good. However, it does for me. Hope you enjoy Doom! : )

@Shellcore That was an unexpectedly reasonable response. Thank you for that.

And here's hoping the game lives up to its price tag.

@subpopz Good comparison, as it captures the trade-off: presentation quality for versatility. If you care more about presentation quality, you'll get the stationary versions. If you care more about versatility, you'll get the hybrid version.

Hehe. As an old fogey just here to provide some perspective, I recall purchasing AtariSoft's Galaxian for the Colecovision (c. 1983) for $49.95 (My brother and I later bought Defender and Centipede for the same price). Quickly looking up the cumulative U.S. inflation rate since that time, $49.95 would be about $120.00 in today's money. So a $59.99 AAA Switch game today is about half the (adjusted) price of a AAA title 35 years ago. And that's for property that had already been in the arcades and on other systems for a few years prior. So nothing new here. Price is what the market will bear. Has always been that way and probably always will be that way.

Are people really still complaining about the price of this game? Act like the developers owe you something and should sell it cheaper.

@DTMOF84 It's a 1 year old game with a missing mode that's being sold for 60 bones. What do you expect people to do? Sit down and take it?

@MsJubilee it also includes the dlc offered for it. It was ported to a new system with added developement costs. I really don’t see people complaining about the price of Skyrim. So yeah sit down and take it. If Doom costs too much then so did Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Pokken Tournament.

@DTMOF84 First of all. Pokken and MK8DX isn't missing a mode. Do you know that? Second. Doom is missing a mode. The map editor. Did you know that? Third. Skyrim comes with everything! It ain't missing a mode like Doom. So i can see why people are complaining. And i don't know why you're telling your fellow switch owners to " Yeah sit down and take it".

So was Snapmap used? Id love to see the usage rates on that. At the same time though, that's editing entire levels so...imagine the RAM usage and storage space that'd eat.

But hey, everything I just said is probably wrong and invalid and people will harshly tell me so until I recede back under my rock for a few days before daring to venture out again.

So it’s missing a mode, but yet includes everything else not included if you bought it a year ago. Have a seat.

@MsJubilee

Strap on some diapers, you are in for the ride of your life.

Really? Missing a mode, game is $20 brand new on the PS4. Switch version is $60........

Yep, no clue as to what people would complain.

Personally I think the game is only worth about $30 tops on any system. The game was so incredibly repetitive until you reached a boss. I felt like I was just entering a room and shooting crap. Rinse and repeat. It reminded me of Painkiller on the PC.

@Lethal
Yep. Not as appealing as Wolfenstein II, for sure. I might try it out second hand when it's like half price.

The PS4 and Switch versions will have both launched at the same price.

The price of an old version of the game on a different system is irrelevant.

It's a first person shooter. Shooting stuff is what you're supposed to do.