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BootyWarrior

shaneoh wrote:

@BootyWarrior
It's still, thankfully far from a standard feature.

i'll buy a phone without a camera thankfully it's far from a standard feature...oh wait

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shaneoh

@MarcelRguez
Yep, that's spot on.

BootyWarrior wrote:

shaneoh wrote:

@BootyWarrior
It's still, thankfully far from a standard feature.

i'll buy a phone without a camera thankfully it's far from a standard feature...oh wait

A camera can be useful, achievements aren't. I don't see the argument you're trying to make.

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Octane

Define useful. It's all subjective in the end.

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JoeDiddley

I've never owned a system with achievements so I don't know what I'm missing.

I think anything that keeps you interested and playing a game is a good thing.

If they are optional for completionists then are there downsides?

Not sure why Nintendo hasn't used them if it keeps people playing games and gives them free advertising on social media (my friends often post their achievements).

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GrailUK

Hey, I'm amazed one of the big AAA devs hasn't tried to monetize them! You could release a game without them, and charge all the people that do want them! Hmmm...I better start working on my evil laugh. MWAHAHHAHA...or does it start with a B? BWAAHAHAH...

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crimsontadpoles

GrailUK wrote:

Hey, I'm amazed one of the big AAA devs hasn't tried to monetize them! You could release a game without them, and charge all the people that do want them! Hmmm...I better start working on my evil laugh. MWAHAHHAHA...or does it start with a B? BWAAHAHAH...

There would be uproar if that happened. Achievements are a fun feature that is easy to ignore if you don't want them, but few people are going to want to pay extra for them.

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Lethal

shaneoh wrote:

@Octane
Useful - able to be used for a practical purpose or in several ways.

Trophies are very useful if you know how to use them. They add another level of challenge to the games. Some of which are very challenging. They can be used to create competitions with friends as well.

Pretty shocking that you do not understand this. It is so simple to comprehend.

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Lethal

MarcelRguez wrote:

Nope. They are representative of the challenge, they are not the challenge per se. Whatever challenge they describe still exists within the game, even when you remove the achievements from it.

You are hopeless man. Good luck in the real world!

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Lethal

shaneoh wrote:

A camera can be useful, achievements aren't. I don't see the argument you're trying to make.

Why have goals in games at all then? How are they useful? Achievements are part of the games. All PS and Xbox games have them. No matter what you say, they are part of the game. So why even make games then? Your logic pretty much says there is no purpose for tasks set within a game. Except with achievements you actually have something showing off your accomplishment.

Even my 8 year old son understands this. I guess if you don't play sports or aren't competitive in any way at all. You might not understand why trophies are fun and useful.

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shaneoh

Lethal wrote:

Why have goals in games at all then?

Welcome back, not so done after all eh? Achievements are outside the game, their existence has no impact upon the story, nor does it impact the gameplay. All it does is try to shoehorn a player into a certain play style rather than let them experience the game in their own way, or reward you for something you were doing anyway.

Lethal wrote:

Achievements are part of the games. All PS and Xbox games have them. No matter what you say, they are part of the game.

Here is Elite Dangerous on Steam. There are no achievements whatsoever in it. ED is also on XB1. Unfortunately I've been out of PC gaming so I don't have a heap of recent games to compare against, but I think that one instance is enough to show that it isn't part of the game, it's part of the OS. It also doesn't explain why Netflix has "achievements"...

Lethal wrote:

So why even make games then? Your logic pretty much says there is no purpose for tasks set within a game. Except with achievements you actually have something showing off your accomplishment.

No, my logic is saying, that there is no purpose in adding additional goals that have no impact on gameplay and story. It's not content that is being added, it's fluff.

Lethal wrote:

I guess if you don't play sports or aren't competitive in any way at all. You might not understand why trophies are fun and useful.

Or I play them because they're fun and I don't need an award for that. Or is the concept of fun foreign to you?

Lethal wrote:

Trophies are very useful if you know how to use them.

They add another level of challenge to the games.

Start up Universal Sandbox. You might find that challenging...

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Lethal

shaneoh wrote:

Here is Elite Dangerous on Steam. There are no achievements whatsoever in it.

I never said all PC games had them. I specifically said Sony and Microsoft.

Don't like them? Don't look at them. Problem solved yet again. Hopefully Nintendo wises up and implements them for those who do enjoy them.

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shaneoh

Lethal wrote:

shaneoh wrote:

Here is Elite Dangerous on Steam. There are no achievements whatsoever in it.

I never said all PC games had them. I specifically said Sony and Microsoft.

You might actually want to read what I've written rather than cut it off not even half way through the point:

shaneoh wrote:

ED is also on XB1. Unfortunately I've been out of PC gaming so I don't have a heap of recent games to compare against, but I think that one instance is enough to show that it isn't part of the game, it's part of the OS. It also doesn't explain why Netflix has "achievements"...

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Lethal

shaneoh wrote:

You might actually want to read what I've written rather than cut it off not even half way through the point:

I don't need to. Everything you say is nonsense.

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Lethal

shaneoh wrote:

@Lethal
[sarcasm]Lawks what a scathing response.[/sarcasm] Unfortunately for your argument, you declaring everything I say to be nonsense doesn't make it so.

You sure do cry a lot. Move on man.

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shaneoh

@Lethal
I'll refer you to post #197

shaneoh wrote:

Ha, unable to come up with a satisfactory argument, so you try to discredit ours by insisting that we're "crying." Classic. Have you considered a career in politics?

Lethal wrote:

Move on man.

Lethal wrote:

I am done with this discussion.

Someone needs to take their own advice.

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Lethal

shaneoh wrote:

@Lethal
I'll refer you to post #197

shaneoh wrote:

Ha, unable to come up with a satisfactory argument, so you try to discredit ours by insisting that we're "crying." Classic. Have you considered a career in politics?

Lethal wrote:

Move on man.

Lethal wrote:

I am done with this discussion.

Someone needs to take their own advice.

Yes I do. Later kid!

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