@VoidofLight Wouldn't the choice to make Pokopia a GKC be up to The Pokémon Company since they're the publisher in Japan? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe developers deal with release decisions like physical formats.
Also, for what it's worth, Age of Imprisonment was a Koei Tecmo-developed game that was released fully on the Game Card.
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@VoidofLight The game was published by the Pokémon Company in Japan, I don't think Koei Tecmo had anything to do with the publishing?
KT did however publish Age of Imprisonment in Japan which was a proper physical release.
But yeah the whole Sony fiasco did make me have a brief Thanos moment with the key-cards ("perhaps I treated you too harshly".)
I think Nintendo were well-intentioned with the key-cards, providing a way publishers can have a 'proper' retail presence (no code-in-a-box) while not being constrained to the size and speed limitations of the 64GB game card. But take something like Street Fighter 6, (I'm sure there are better examples) a game that was around 50GB at launch published by AAA studio Capcom. Surely they can fork out to put one of their top franchises on the card...but then again this is Capcom. The same people who released a physical edition Mega Man Legacy Collection 1+2 with only the first game on the cartridge, bearing in mind the whole package is only around 6GB I think. They just couldn't resist cheaping out on the 1GB card.
And in some ways I get it, producing Switch 2 cartridges is a costly endeavour for what is currently still a relatively small install base but the lack of future proofing does sting quite a bit.
Similar with GKC being maybe well intentioned, I also think 70 dollar Switch 2 first party games might be partially the fault of 3rd parties. It would be at the bare minimum, absurdly awkward if Nintendo was consistently undercutting the pricing of 3rd parties on their system, and 3rd parties would likely be stubborn about Swicth 2 ports of Ps5 era games being 70 (especially for the better ports that kinda justify it). Though another reason is probably Nintendo trying to keep some level of consistency with Switch 2 upgrades costing money.
It would also make more sense their willingness to pivot just because one Mario sports game bombed if they weren't doing it purely because of either greed or thinking 70 dollars was normalized already (though both are also obviously relevant). It makes more sense to change your business practice when your system is already breaking records anyway if you were already not fully committed to perma-charging 70 for all games.
Of course I've consistently held the belief that their stubbornness for full price or nothing during the Switch generation and a lack of good sales were worse than price increases, so in general I feel a begrudging understanding of something that is still disappointing in current economy (though Fire Emblem I don't because they're gonna hurt the series that way). And in general I'm kinda fascinated by Nintendo's greed, because of how weirdly passive they feel about it. It feels like other companies are often obsessed with greed and endless growth over anything else, while Nintendo's worst moments of greed just feel like passively letting greedy thing happens. Like whenever I see people question the validity of two Pokemon versions, even ignoring any obvious counterpoints (no reasonable person buys both versions for themselves), I do feel simultaneously that it makes sense and was always done for sincere, good reasons for gamers, but also that corporate people are still gonna appreciate the increased sales that can come from it. The stupid Mario 35th anniversary debacle was also probably also sincere on some level but I'm sure the most corporate, money minded Nintendo executives were happy by FOMO and whatnot. Whereas another company anything cool either would not be by design or overshadowed by what the executives wanted in the short term. And I think that sums up why even when they do bad things, Nintendo never comes across the same to me as most AAA game companies.
Speaking of Pokemon, what are the odds of getting a Pokemon Presents in August? After all, there's often a presentation in Early August (though they did Late July last year).
Though WiWa is coming 2027, if VoidofLight is correct that it was indeed delayed from a late 2026 release shortly prior to reveal, the release of the game could very well be months earlier than the normal holiday slot, so a trailer in August wouldn't be too crazy (not that it was terribly crazy considering, well, we already had a gameplay trailer). I wouldn't anticipate a big overview trailer though.
There's also the Pokopia DLC, which doesn't currently have many details, so that could also be good Presents material if it isn't used as Today fodder first.
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@UpsideDownRowlet I'd say pretty low. They usually don't do Presents unless they have main series game news, and unless WiWa is releasing before the end of the fiscal year I don't think they have anything until next Pokemon Day. They don't need a Presents to show more info on the Pokopia DLC, they could easily put that info on Nintendo Today or some other kind of social media shadowdrop.
In terms of most likely future Directs, it's probably game specific Directs for other IPs (Fire Emblem and Zelda 40th especially seem more likely than a Pokemon Presents) and maybe mainlines in September and Spring depending on how much they have to show. I myself am more anticipating Zelda 40th so we can actually learn WTF the OoT remake actually is and either a Metroid 40th or mainline to officially announce Ravenous.
@UpsideDownRowlet considering all other Koei Tecmo games are game key cart, I think the fact AoI is full cartridge release is uh... because Zelda and Nintendo lol.
(the list of KT games on switch 2 I can find easily and is key card: Nobunaga's ambition, wild heart s, dynasty warriors: origins, fatal frame 2, and wo long, and there's probably others but these are all key cards)
@UpsideDownRowlet@Nintoz Ahh, then it's probably correct that GameFreak pushed for a Game Key Card. I sorta hope that Gen 10 is treated better, since we know that Nintendo and Gamefreak both underestimated how well Pokopia would do sales-wise, but I guess we should be prepared for Gen 10 to also be on a Game Key Card as a possibility.
As for a Pokemon Presents, I don't think we'll see that any time soon. Most of the people who have correctly leaked things for both Z-A and Gen 10 are saying not to expect Winds and Waves until late next year. I imagine if that's the release period, GameFreak is going to hold off on marketing the game more until February 27th 2027, or around that time period. I'd imagine that they'll show the box legendaries in that Presents.
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@VoidofLight As I said before, I think it's both sides (game freak I don't think we know yet, and KT prefers key card on majority of their release. I only see AoI as their only full cartridge release)
Edit: actually I think I'll say that we don't know what game freak prefers until more of their stuff is out that's their own thing (pokemon isn't their own thing, so we'll have to wait until something like little town hero or somesuch XD)
As for a Pokemon Presents, I don't think we'll see that any time soon. Most of the people who have correctly leaked things for both Z-A and Gen 10 are saying not to expect Winds and Waves until late next year. I imagine if that's the release period, GameFreak is going to hold off on marketing the game more until February 27th 2027, or around that time period. I'd imagine that they'll show the box legendaries in that Presents.
100% if the rumors are correct about it being a late 2027 game (probably in the usual November slot) we won't see it again until Pokemon Day. That would follow their marketing schedule for Z-A and how they've marketed new games in the past. The usual pattern used to be reveal on Pokemon Day, blowout trailer in the summer (usually June, but SV held it until August), release in November. Now they may be stretching the marketing cycle a bit more because of dev time increases, we may be seeing a new pattern of reveal during the Pokemon Day the year before release (~18 months before release), blowout trailer next year's Pokemon Day, release in November.
Again, the only way I see them showing off WiWa before Pokemon Day is if the rumors are wrong and it's releasing in like, Q1 2027 or sometime around there. If it's late Spring, Summer, or Fall, they're absolutely holding the next reveal for Pokemon Day.
Ahh, then it's probably correct that GameFreak pushed for a Game Key Card. I sorta hope that Gen 10 is treated better, since we know that Nintendo and Gamefreak both underestimated how well Pokopia would do sales-wise, but I guess we should be prepared for Gen 10 to also be on a Game Key Card as a possibility.
Not to get too much into particulars, but it's still not really Game Freak, since they're a different entity from The Pokémon Company (although GF does hold a significant stake of ownership in TPC). While Game Freak is responsible for the development of the mainline games, The Pokémon Company deals with their distribution and presumably the nature of their physical production (I also think I heard something about TPC being responsible for commissioning mainline games, but I digress) in addition to other branches of the Pokémon brand outside of mainline games. Depending on how much Nintendo was displeased with the reaction to Pokopia being a GKC, they may influence TPC to pursue a fully on-cart release for WiWa.
As for a Pokemon Presents, I don't think we'll see that any time soon. Most of the people who have correctly leaked things for both Z-A and Gen 10 are saying not to expect Winds and Waves until late next year. I imagine if that's the release period, GameFreak is going to hold off on marketing the game more until February 27th 2027, or around that time period. I'd imagine that they'll show the box legendaries in that Presents.
While I was leaning towards no news for WiWa until Pokémon Day, the release period being late 2027 as you say is quite surprising to me. Considering the last minute delay and the showcase of WiWa gameplay footage at Pokémon Day 2026 when Z-A did not back in 2024, I thought a regular Holiday release seemed unlikely, but if that's what the leakers say. Still, I would not be surprised if the release window is currently just undecided, especially with that aforementioned delay; hopefully this all just means the game has all the polish it needs on launch day.
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Yeah not expecting any news on Winds/Waves until Pokemon Day. Not expecting anything on Xenoblade Genesis until next year either.
We'll probably get a Fortunes Weave Direct, a Zelda 40th Direct (OoT details, Zelda movie teaser), and maybe an Indie World before the next general Direct in September.
February 2027 will be a Partner Showcase rather than a general if I had to guess.
Yeah not expecting any news on Winds/Waves until Pokemon Day. Not expecting anything on Xenoblade Genesis until next year either.
We'll probably get a Fortunes Weave Direct, a Zelda 40th Direct (OoT details, Zelda movie teaser), and maybe an Indie World before the next general Direct in September.
February 2027 will be a Partner Showcase rather than a general if I had to guess.
Looking at the lineup if they're skipping one of September or February Generals, it's most likely going to be September. It seems like they've taken to a pattern of alternating between General and Partner now, the last time we had 2 consecutive Directs in the typical February/June/September schedule was 2023. Furthermore, the lineup feels pretty filled out the rest of the year to the point where I don't know if they really want to have a General and instead they just fill in the gaps with Nintendo Today announcements of smaller projects until February. So what we've seen right now suggests they may not be in a hurry to pile on a new wave of announcements in September, they're more likely to just coast on what they currently have and save their next major announcements until February.
@Bolt_Strike I don't think there's really enough evidence to suggest that Nintendo is deliberately going for an alternating pattern of Directs, as 2024 and 2025 were special cases with the Switch winding down and Switch 2 starting up. In 2024, there was just one Direct because there were only enough games for one Direct that year. Had they held a September Direct, it would've truly been an all-timer, revealing Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition alone. Then in 2025, the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct in April served the purpose of the usual Summer Direct by revealing the full slate for the remainder of 2025. There are reasons for recent Direct skips beyond just "they felt like it".
With regards to the February 2026 Direct being skipped, that comes as a result of an abundance of 2026 games already being announced. The only first party game released in the first half of 2026 that was not revealed in 2025 was Star Fox in June, which of course was a remake. After that, it's not until Nintendo Switch Sports Resort in October that a game is revealed after 2025 is released. Due to having too many Spring/Summer 2026 games revealed prior to February 2026 to the point that the only possible reveal for a Direct then would be a singular remake with Star Fox. Clearly, Nintendo got ahead of themselves and ended up with not enough announcements to make a full February General Direct, so they opted for a partner showcase instead.
Now, looking ahead to a possible September Direct, I think it is, as of now reasonable to expect a General. While we do have two 2027 games already revealed with Xenoblade Genesis and Pokémon Winds & Waves, neither of those titles are specifically slated for early 2027, so there's still room for several games to be announced. Unless Nintendo goes absolutely crazy on Nintendo Today, there's no reason why there can't be a September General Direct.
As for February, it again depends on how much they announce in advance. If they again announce games through half of 2027 and beyond, then there will likely be another February Partner Showcase. Otherwise, a February general is possible.
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@Bolt_Strike Not having a general Direct until February also allows Nintendo to be very flexible in case of any sudden GTA6 developments like a delay to 2027 or GTA Online 2 ending up releasing in early 2027.
@Bolt_Strike I could see that being the case, especially if we get dedicated Directs for FEFW, Zelda 40th, and possibly even a Partner Showcase.
We're guaranteed at least a Partner Showcase in September. Even when they skip a General, the Partner Showcase is meant to take their place to satisfy marketing contracts with third parties, that's the entire point of a Partner. FE Direct and Zelda 40th also seem highly likely, FE is a game I could see getting another deep dive and we know nothing about OoT or anything else they might do for Zelda's 40th. If Metroid Ravenous is indeed coming this year, I could see a Metroid 40th for that too, the theory about the 40th Direct being in August and Ravenous launching in October seems very plausible. That is probably enough for the rest of the year.
@Bolt_Strike I don't think there's really enough evidence to suggest that Nintendo is deliberately going for an alternating pattern of Directs, as 2024 and 2025 were special cases with the Switch winding down and Switch 2 starting up.
Well intent can be difficult to prove but the lineup they're showing off in these recent Directs does seem like it's meant to last about 6-8 months. So that does point towards a deliberate strategy.
Then in 2025, the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct in April served the purpose of the usual Summer Direct by revealing the full slate for the remainder of 2025.
And it was close to the February Direct too (they did sort of do a double with a Switch 1 Direct in March and Switch 2 Direct in April, but that seems to be more the exception in the new normal because of the new console launch). So we got a Spring Direct equivalent to February in March/April, skipped June, and didn't get one again until September.
After that, it's not until Nintendo Switch Sports Resort in October that a game is revealed after 2025 is released. Due to having too many Spring/Summer 2026 games revealed prior to February 2026 to the point that the only possible reveal for a Direct then would be a singular remake with Star Fox. Clearly, Nintendo got ahead of themselves and ended up with not enough announcements to make a full February General Direct, so they opted for a partner showcase instead.
Is it getting ahead of themselves or deliberate? Considering that the Spring/Summer games were all they had to reveal in the September Direct because everything else was announced in April, it's more likely deliberate. They don't have enough announcements to sustain 3 mainline Directs a year anymore.
Now, looking ahead to a possible September Direct, I think it is, as of now reasonable to expect a General. While we do have two 2027 games already revealed with Xenoblade Genesis and Pokémon Winds & Waves, neither of those titles are specifically slated for early 2027, so there's still room for several games to be announced. Unless Nintendo goes absolutely crazy on Nintendo Today, there's no reason why there can't be a September General Direct.
In terms of reveals for early 2027 games, you have to keep in mind that anything after February/March can be saved until the Spring Direct. They just need a lineup to get them to February. So they might only need a smaller project for January (maybe some kind of remake or S2E) and they could make that a Nintendo Today announcement. Beyond that, the schedule is fairly packed for the rest of the year.
July: Splatoon Raiders, Xenoblade Chronicles 2: S2E
August: Pokopia DLC Part 1
September: Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave
October: Nintendo Switch Sports Resort
November: nothing so far
December: Xenoblade Chronicles 3: S2E
TBA 2026: OoT remake, Pokopia DLC Part 2
This is enough that they don't need to go "absolutely crazy with Nintendo Today", they can add maybe one or two more games that we don't yet know about (based on rumors/leaks, maybe Metroid Ravenous and Pikmin 4 S2E can slot in somewhere) and that will be enough that they don't need a full General until February. The circumstances of past windows where we had enough announced to skip a General have repeated themselves here, they have enough to market for the rest of the year that I can see them not wanting to cannibalize themselves with game announcements that are likely well past this window (especially if 2027 is as big as anticipated, with Pokemon WiWa currently announced and 3D Mario rumored to finally be landing, they do not want people skipping the 2026 lineup because WiWa and 3D Mario overshadow them).
Then in 2025, the Nintendo Switch 2 Direct in April served the purpose of the usual Summer Direct by revealing the full slate for the remainder of 2025.
And it was close to the February Direct too (they did sort of do a double with a Switch 1 Direct in March and Switch 2 Direct in April, but that seems to be more the exception in the new normal because of the new console launch). So we got a Spring Direct equivalent to February in March/April, skipped June, and didn't get one again until September.
I suppose I should have phrased it as both the March and April Directs sort of serving the purposes of both the usual February and June Directs. The point is 2025's slate was locked in by April so there was no point in holding a Direct that Summer.
After that, it's not until Nintendo Switch Sports Resort in October that a game is revealed after 2025 is released. Due to having too many Spring/Summer 2026 games revealed prior to February 2026 to the point that the only possible reveal for a Direct then would be a singular remake with Star Fox. Clearly, Nintendo got ahead of themselves and ended up with not enough announcements to make a full February General Direct, so they opted for a partner showcase instead.
Is it getting ahead of themselves or deliberate? Considering that the Spring/Summer games were all they had to reveal in the September Direct because everything else was announced in April, it's more likely deliberate. They don't have enough announcements to sustain 3 mainline Directs a year anymore.
I don't think the main issue was the September Direct reveals per se, but rather the March reveals of Rhythm Heaven & Tomodachi Life, as well as the Today reveal of Splatoon Raiders sending announcements into organizational chaos. I get why they wanted to to reveal TL:LtD and RHG in March, they wanted to let Switch users know they weren't going to get dropped, and they also likely wanted to share news on Z-A, MP4, and Virtual Game Cards, so it made sense for them to have a Direct in that moment. I don't really know why they decided to reveal Raiders so early though; perhaps just to get people using the app more. Had they not done those announcements earier, they could have revealed Mario Tennis, Wonder NS2E, Yoshi, Pokopia, and Tomodachi Life in September, and then Star Fox, Splatoon Raiders, Rhythm Heaven, Xenoblade X NS2E, and Fire Emblem in February. The deliberate decisions to reveal those 3 games early forced them to not have a February Direct and also reveal Fire Emblem a full year in advance unnecessarily.
Now, looking ahead to a possible September Direct, I think it is, as of now reasonable to expect a General. While we do have two 2027 games already revealed with Xenoblade Genesis and Pokémon Winds & Waves, neither of those titles are specifically slated for early 2027, so there's still room for several games to be announced. Unless Nintendo goes absolutely crazy on Nintendo Today, there's no reason why there can't be a September General Direct.
In terms of reveals for early 2027 games, you have to keep in mind that anything after February/March can be saved until the Spring Direct. They just need a lineup to get them to February. So they might only need a smaller project for January (maybe some kind of remake or S2E) and they could make that a Nintendo Today announcement. Beyond that, the schedule is fairly packed for the rest of the year.
July: Splatoon Raiders, Xenoblade Chronicles 2: S2E
August: Pokopia DLC Part 1
September: Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave
October: Nintendo Switch Sports Resort
November: nothing so far
December: Xenoblade Chronicles 3: S2E
TBA 2026: OoT remake, Pokopia DLC Part 2
This is enough that they don't need to go "absolutely crazy with Nintendo Today", they can add maybe one or two more games that we don't yet know about (based on rumors/leaks, maybe Metroid Ravenous and Pikmin 4 S2E can slot in somewhere) and that will be enough that they don't need a full General until February. The circumstances of past windows where we had enough announced to skip a General have repeated themselves here, they have enough to market for the rest of the year that I can see them not wanting to cannibalize themselves with game announcements that are likely well past this window (especially if 2027 is as big as anticipated, with Pokemon WiWa currently announced and 3D Mario rumored to finally be landing, they do not want people skipping the 2026 lineup because WiWa and 3D Mario overshadow them).
I'm not totally sure why the dates for games releasing this year is relevant to this discussion, as September Direct game reveals are most generally for games releasing in the first third of the next year. I do not doubt that there are plenty of games this year, but my doubt is that there is enough for early next year.
The only scenario I could see where an absence of a September Direct being enough is if at the start of 2027 they skipped one month (or had something small like DLC only), had a Nintendo Today announced game, and had Xenoblade and/or Pokemon unexpectedly early in the year. In that scenario, sure they could manage without a September Direct, but simply being able to do something under specific conditions is not a very convincing argument to expect it to happen. As I mentioned before, Nintendo does Partner Showcases specifically when they do not have enough noteworthy announcements to make a full general direct. We just had Metroid Ravenous leaked, and that will likely go to 2027. Furthermore, we're due for a new mainline Kirby, and those games usually release in the early months of the year.
Yes, a Partner Showcase is possible, but is it likely? Right now it doesn't seem likely. If we get games announced through Nintendo Today prior to September, then maybe I'll sing a different tune, but for now I'd argue a General seems more plausible than not.
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