Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

How come 2D Shoot 'em ups haven't become successful in the modern age of gaming? In the era of social games and everyone carrying a mobile device, you'd think that a Shoot 'em Up with online leaderboards and sharing power-ups with friends would take off, but no.

@MrMario02: most games in that genre were notable for their difficulty, that is to say that I don't see people playing Contra on their phones.

@MrMario02: There haven't been 2D Shoot 'em ups designed around those things. Most of them back in the day were designed around taking as many quarters as possible out of the players.

@TheLastLugia: I was referring to games like Gradius, Xevious, Twinbee, and Galaga.

@DefHalan Yes, but so are match-3 puzzle games, and yet Candy Crush took the world by storm. The person who applies the social concepts of Match-3 games to Shoot 'em ups will have struck a gold mine.

I'm starting to worry about the all the game company acquisitions that companies are doing these days. EA buying King, Microsoft purchasing Mojang and Tencent purchasing Riot Games are just a few examples of this. Last year, several big companies companies (Mostly those from China, but some companies form other countries are noticeable) were in a mad dash to acquire more game companies, and unless we see said big companies show us their plans for those game companies, we may enter an acquisition bubble.

@MrMario02: The difference is that match-3 puzzle games don't require much skill, just brain power. Shoot 'em ups have a lot of skill required, slimming your audience.

Power ups in a match 3 game are normally to help the play avhieve a better score. Power ups in Shoot 'em Ups are normally rewards for doing well. I just don't see shoot em ups doing well on touch devices or with a free to play model.

You should look up Salvo Saga HD (by Colopl).

I'm very surprised by how well that game worked, and it's probably one of my favorite games on my tablet.

@MrMario02: Did you just watch the new Extra Credits episode?

The amount of negativity that Nintendo is getting is just awful.

Amiibo getting hate because people think its on disc dlc instead of it being more of an optional thing- I think the hate that Nintendo is getting for this is extreme. If Nintendo does it in such a way that for 40$-60$ for a Nintendo game is worth spending for that much content, then I don't see the problem that people should have for amiibo.

For example, a 60$ game like Xenoblade Chronicles that has your money's worth for just what the main game has to offer you with its own collections and main campaign, then I don't see how having amiibo is a problem because obviously if you want more out of the game, you need to pay additional price for it.

Now if its something where you have so little of it for a 60$ game that has like what 2 hours of gameplay(Halo 5 anyone?) and forces you to buy the amiibo to unlock more game modes and more levels, then I can agree that Nintendo is playing a bit dirty here. But that's not gonna happen and that doesn't seem to be the problem because Nintendo knows that if they do this, it will only sell less units not because of the game being cheap but because Nintendo has to afford double than what the actual price of the game is.

Nintendo focuses too much on kiddie games- Hardcore Nintendo fans will know that not all Nintendo games are family friendly. Have you seen Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Xenoblade, Metroid and Eternal Darkness? They can really make those kind of mature games. The problem here isn't Nintendo. Its Nintendo of America that maintains the Nintendo image in America where they censor majority of the content that Nintendo used in Japan.

Time will tell how this comment will be once Nintendo buys more companies than just Monolith Soft. All I can say is do some research of the various IP's that Nintendo has and even then, understand the IP's instead of thinking them as kiddie.

Nintendo is too gimmicky on their consoles and just needs to buff them with just a controller- This is more of a subjective matter and I know how this will be. In my most unpopular opinion, I feel they are on track of using technology that's affordable. I can't think of one of what they made hasn't revolutionized the industry one bit even the virtual boy has somewhat influenced Nintendo themselves. Making technology powerful is asking the company to make more power which needs more money.

The only thing that I'll give you guys one thing is that for porting games alone, Nintendo might need to make it easier to do so. Other than that, I'm fine with whatever graphical power they use. Infact, I'm very positive that HD graphics are as far as what Nintendo will go for.

Nintendo games are expensive- I don't understand this argument one bit. Nintendo doesn't often emulate their old games so to see that those games should come at a cheap price is really not that smart for them to do. I bought several of the VC games and I didn't care about the price because what I cared about was no matter how "costly" those games are, I got my money's worth. I love Link's Awakening, Wario Land games and many more. Heck even Super Mario Bros the original was worth the purchase.

The games that I didn't get my money's worth are Tomb Raider Anniversary, Beyond Oasis and many more. I feel like for those games, it ought to be like 25 cents instead of a dollar.

Also, before the current gen started, we already had the announcement that games will be at 40-60 dollars max. So knowing this, how is it Nintendo's fault that their games are expensive?

Nintendo games are region lock- Now despite me having no issues in this, I understand the argument quite fairly. I mean, many games are region exclusive so the fact that this alone is a bit inconvenient to many gamers made Nintendo analyze the situation of this. NX might be region free for all we know.

I know comments will rant as always on this, but I feel the hate Nintendo gets is unreasonable.

^can you please just go back a few pages and see the previous responses you had all the other times you moan about this.

@arronishere: I could but after seeing the recent investors meeting article, I'm tired of this negative flak that Nintendo gets very often. I know its irritating at the same time to defend it over and over again, but its also irritating to bash at them unnecessary as well.

@Socar: 100 euro for Fatal Frame is total BS.
Region lock on U I can understand and tolerate, but for 3DS it's idiotic.

I've seen many people complaining about Diablo 3 being casualised, which is not true at all and it actually caters more to HC in some regards. Idiotic arguments for casualisationn were like automatic str/dex/int/vit points (this argument is stupid, because nobody gave dexterity for barb if wanted to play seriously and gave most of the time 3 main stat + 2 vit, maybe sometimes int for resistance) and not enough abilities, when in reality there are much more abilities and combinations than in Diablo 2.
It's perfect balance for casuals and HC alike with all the difficulty settings, rifts and greater rifts, legendary gems and changing your built on the fly is great idea, because you can experiment with whatever you want and not f-ing up your character or tearing your hair out because you can't find set item. It doesn't punish you for leaving it for some time. More content and variety, constant updates with new things, better endgame (in 2 it was basically baal runs all the way) now seasons... It's improving over time and people saying D2 was better have either nostalgia glasses or picked it up after LoD, because the game got as good as it's remember after like release of LoD or 1.06. At first it was much bigger mess than 3 in the beginning.
Actually, now after 2.4 Diablo 3 is leagues better than 2. Hoping for next expansion coming next year or 2, because Reaper of Souls plot was great. Only thing worse and minus is lack of social part - now you can't trade items.

Real Money Auction House should've stayed, though. I was defending it and saying that removing it won't bring new people and they are complaining for the sake of complaining and looks like I was right. I wasn't making 3 grand like some people on it, but while it lasted I made my money back for CE.

Nintendo Fans >>>>>>>> SEGA fans

Seriously, Nintendo fans are more open minded than SEGA fans. SEGA fans will defend the hell out of SEGA even if SEGA didn't localize majority of the games to the west. Wow! And here I thought that Sony and Microsoft fans are dumb!

Considering you troll the Sega forums telling SEGA fans how SEGA needs to die because they are evil I'm sure SEGA fans are saying Nintendo fan boys are dumb at the same time you wrote that.

@arronishere: You don't even defend Nintendo so much. Infact, you yourself hate many things that Nintendo does. I bet that you still hate how Nintendo still to this day hasn't localized Mother 3 yet and how "expensive" their VC games are.... Come to think of it, I've never seen any of your posts having any level of hype of latest Nintendo games. And it is true that after making that infamous post when SEGA revealed their projections, there is no way that you can't say that Nintendo fans are narrow minded like SEGA.

How is it trolling when its obvious that SEGA is no way of what they used to be. I can't express how angry I am at SEGA for making mediocre games for Nintendo recently. The ones standing out are from Atlus and not from SEGA themselves.

@arronishere: But the fact that they still have faith in a company that has just lost their image further proves why having faith in them is pointless because there's no way in hell that SEGA will work harder than how they used to.

Ok so you're fine with VC, but you're not fine with amiibo and I bet that you still have issues with Nintendo and I mean big issues.

Well someone on here does have BIG issues with Nintendo...

@Socar: SEGA Fans >>>>>>>> Nintendo fans
Seriously, SEGa fans are more open minded than Nintendo fans. Nintendo fans will defend the hell out of Nintendo even if Nintendo didn't localize majority of the games to the west. Wow! And here I thought that Sony and Microsoft fans are dumb!

Like a merry go round.

@DefHalan: Haven't Watched Extra Credits since December, when they went on break for the holidays. Checked back to extra credits after you made that comment. What a coincidence!

EDIT: Okay, to be clear, I don't necessarily agree with everything they said in the episode. It's still a cool coincidence though!

I do not find Sega fans to be open minded more than a Ninty fanboy, especially the ones from the era of Sega consoles. It's more like a mirrored version of Nintendo fans. A similar type of nerd rage and they are each others old time nemesis. Both companies make similar games, that's why it works so well with Sega games on Nintendo systems. If you're not picking sides, they appeal to similar people. Not to mention the underlying bitterness that they don't make consoles and struggle with their main mascot Sonic, that comes out when there's even an drop of mention that Nintendo still makes consoles and Mario doesn't struggle to sell. It's a similar bitterness to Nintendo fans when you suggest Mario is boring, just jumps, has no special features and that Nintendo needs to stop making consoles.

Lol @ everyone who's still surprised Mother 3 is probably coming to the West. I mean it was pretty much a dead giveaway once Beginnings came out on WiiU. Then it was set in stone when M3 came out in Japan. Like they'd actually skip us after releasing Earthbound, going "out of their way" to give us Beginnings and then making the handful of Mother 3 jokes. You really can't tease everyone that hard then ignore all the begging for it. It would cause even more anger and they need to keep doing their minimum to prove they still care about the ~hardcore~ gamers.

Sonic fanbase, you are objectively wrong.

Especially since there barely is a Sega fanbase that isn;t Sonic