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New_3DaSh_XL
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I agree with every word you said.

the switch is pretty cool.

Super_Gravy

I'm not an fan of reading a wall of text but I love this wall of text ever! You break it up into three parts and you went straight to the point and explains it in detail. Good job buddy! Give yourself an pat on your back. If there is wall of text in the future then its should be like this!

For part 1, if they are half-baked games then why are they selling so well? Is this really an company can pulled this off? I think customers and marketing does come into play.

For part 2, I agreed with you. I don't think this is just happening in gaming industry but I think its happening everywhere. I'm sick of movies, games, anime, cartoons, drinks, foods, and etc that are so "amazing" popular that is in trend turned out to be "okay" or "piece of crap" lately.

For part 3, are you aiming at the fan boys or fan girls? I think it is more of my respond to part 2 for this part. I think it is trend thing that people tend to follow trend greatly now a day. I never see so many people in my lifetime until now that they are truly care for something so much.

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Mickey

DashChargedShot wrote:

there are far too many companies that are making games solely for the money.

But companies exist to make money!

PS: Seriously, when did making money become so blasted glorious an ideal that we should all respect and give companies like EA a free pass when they screw the consumer over?

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BABBLE

i agree about them rumours. it's like all that people talk about. i wanna hear new ideas not condemn old ones! i believe rumours are just plagiarism.

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GuSolarFlare

I agree with what you've said but I love the stupid drama in the hater threads(in the beggining after a while they take it too far and it gets annoying)

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Eh, it's just games.

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New_3DaSh_XL

@Super_Gravy - Pt. 1 - That was kinda covered in Pt. 3, but to restate, that's our fault. The gamers. Blindly buying games from series we like, regardless of whether or not they're actually good.
Pt. 3 - Hm, I was trying to make a general statement about gamers or fans themselves, so I wasn't really going for either. But my problem was just how we're corrupting the industry whether it's through hate, doom and gloom, bias, fear of the unknown, or blind support. Did that answer that question for you?

@MickeyTheGreat - Yes, but I was trying to say that perhaps companies would make more if they did more and to care about what they're doing. I know companies exist to make money, and I understand that, but I think they should at least have some standard in place.

Also, ikr >.< thanks for bringing that up.

CanisWolfred

There's a serious problem with a lot of things. Not to undermine your points, its just that it doesn't really matter how much a few smart people say something is wrong, since the only people with the capacity to do anything only understand the language of money and certainly don't understand the concept of foresight, and will only do things differently once they're not making money. All we can do is hope that the drivers of fate don't take us all off a cliff...

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Super_Gravy

@DashChargedShot: Yes it did answer my question but the gamers in the past don't blindly buy games. What have changed in the present? Did the used policy and pre-order bonus have to do with this? Did those gamers promised by the company for how great the game is? Did the marketing skills improve over the years or the ethics is lost over the years?

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Mickey

@DashChargedShot Exactly. Companies can make money while also making good games, so the "companies exist to make money" defense just holds no water in my opinion.

PS: Seriously, though, you've earned major brownie points of respect from me for this thread. Thank you.

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sugarpixel

Well, maybe I have the right idea then, I want to get into making games so I can tell stories. :3

I think video games are the final frontier of storytelling, and very few people have tried really tapping into it so far. Yes, I'd like to eventually make money off of it, but goal number one is making unique experiences and telling stories.

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New_3DaSh_XL

@Super_Gravy - That's a good question. I don't have an exact answer for it, but here's what I think. For one, in the past there were fewer option; thus everyone knew about most games and knew who to trust, along with stuff such as money being slightly harder to acquire as a kid (ok, maybe I'm thinking too far back), but I think it's much easier for someone my age to get a job and make enough money to buy video games often, without caring quite as much what I got. Plus, since the Internet has improved in popularity, there's less consulting trusted real-life friends' opinions. Those might be extremes, though. There is certainly, however, a very strong "coolness" factor to games such as CoD that existed somewhat less 20 years ago. There's also the fact that since gaming companies are using shiftier methods to sell games or to make games, people know that in order to avoid wasting money, they MUST only buy certain games from trusted companies. And yes, I think marketing is much better now than it was years ago (can you count how many ads you've seen/heard on the radio, TV, YouTube, websites, and other places in the past week?) and that thee are definitely business ethics lost over the years. Perhaps it's for businesses to stay alive, perhaps it's laziness. I still thoroughly believe it can stop if they companies made an effort to stop it, and that it'd be a win-win for everyone if they did.

BABBLE

Gioku wrote:

Well, maybe I have the right idea then, I want to get into making games so I can tell stories. :3

I think video games are the final frontier of storytelling, and very few people have tried really tapping into it so far. Yes, I'd like to eventually make money off of it, but goal number one is making unique experiences and telling stories.

i agree with you. i tried to start a thread on here to see people's ideas for new games, but people thought it sucked. i wish someone else would start one.

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CanisWolfred

^Probably not a good idea to give your ideas for an awesome game away...especially if you and/or your listeners are in a position to actually make a game, like some people on this forum are...

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GuSolarFlare

CanisWolfred wrote:

^Probably not a good idea to give your ideas for an awesome game away...especially if you and/or your listeners are in a position to actually make a game, like some people on this forum are...

that's why I never told my "for real" game ideas(though I'll share all my "still learning how to make games and trying to push the bar even lower" ideas)

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LordJumpMad

DragonEaterMe wrote:

i agree with you. i tried to start a thread on here to see people's ideas for new games, but people thought it sucked. i wish someone else would start one.

I would love to hear your idea so very much!
A matter of fact, this thread should be about everyone making walls of text .
finally I will make a thread full of walls and walls text, and no one will read them, this has to be my best idea ever!

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sugarpixel

I don't mind sharing/asking for ideas because I'm actually using them as I get them... instead of just making up what I'd like to do some day. This is real-time with me.

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BABBLE

CanisWolfred wrote:

^Probably not a good idea to give your ideas for an awesome game away...especially if you and/or your listeners are in a position to actually make a game, like some people on this forum are...

i want to give mine away, i'll never be able to make them myself. i understand if no one else wants to. i give ideas to game companies all the time and sometimes they have used them. in other words my ideas are always free. I've givin ideas to Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft and I'm sure you've seen them.

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