@Tasuki I agree. There are better places to debate. Politics bring out the absolute worst in many peoples' personalities. Thing is, politics do indeed matter and can change an individual's life drastically in a disastrous way if that said person is not informed or prepared. That stuff matters and should be talked about, but here, on a site dedicated to a video game company? Nah, I don't think so.
This is a site that is designed to inform enthusiastic fans of Nintendo's actions and plans. I'm sure many people don't want to argue politics when coming here.
@Bronze Not a real fan of politics because it forces me to change my view of others if they let their views define their everyday life. Some of my family voted Leave for Brexit, but that doesn't make them bad people. I can just turn to them in a few years and say to them "Look what you've done!"
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Not a real fan of politics because it forces me to change my view of others if they let their views define their everyday life. Some of my family voted Leave for Brexit, but that doesn't make them bad people. I can just turn to them in a few years and say to them "Look what you've done!"
Thing is with something like Brexit by not talking about it with people of the opposite opinion you could end up thinking the worse of that person for their reasoning to support it. There were more issues at hand than simply immigration or sovereignty like the EU's handling of Greece or the various propaganda myths that are very reasonable to vote for (even if they don't outweigh staying imo). Actually considering Brexit went through because of week political opposition from Labour a word of mouth approach by people to dispel the various miss-facts and the pros of the EU from remainers to leavers it would probably have swung the result the other way.
@theJGG Still. It's worth a shot to at least try to convince them of your political views, whatever they are if you feel as though they are important, but it is also worth a shot to hear the other side out. But if you did what you could, I don't at all disagree. Like you said, at the end, the results will speak for themselves.
It's just such a shame when people turn a deaf ear to opinions that even remotely goes against their own political ideas. I'm not talking about you, JGG. I'm speaking in general.
But there are some dangerous entities that heightens the hostility between people in these types of debates: The media. On live TV, the media has so much power over what people see and what they don't see. With the media, there's typically no discussion that happens between parties of opposite beliefs. So typically, one side goes to one extreme and the other goes to the opposite extreme.
@Bronze to be honest going into any conversation with the mindset of convincing the other person is wrong is the wrong attitude. It often comes off as lecture-y rather than discussing things and is often counter productive as they will harden their stance from being perceived as attacked. That's what normally happens to me when doctors tell me I shouldn't be smoking in the hospital's childrens ward so I carry on in defiance of them!
@Bronze Sorry if that seemed naggy but yeah. Tbh I have a bad habit when talking about Brexit of mocking people with the irony of people don't want to be part of EU rule so they give up their seat at the EU only to then have to comply with EU rules and regulations anyway without a say on what the rules and regulations should be.
Nah, man. What you said was absolutely true and I'm willing to change my willing opinion to abide by that suggestion. When entering a conversation like that, it's kind of a dangerous mindset to go in expecting to convince without at least also being willing to be convinced as well. Assuming that the entity with the opposite opinion will always be wrong will likely result in a sate of stubbornness.
On here, I won't comment my opinions regarding specific policies. I'm mainly interested in seeing people's opinion on how to approach such arguments. Here in the USA, the opposite sides are engaging in physical fights and brawls at a frighteningly frequent rate. No one wants to hear the other side out.
Huh, not really that different over here in UK .... Whether it turns into physical brawls or not, far too many people are shutting any discussions down just because some people can't handle those. But it's not like we can really get into any of those things here, either, so .....
@Bronze Brawling isn't the American way, it's capitalism. Shouldn't the richest person win the argument by having the bigger bag of money like a game of conkers? ;p
After posting that I realized you will have no idea what conkers is. It's a British game where kids finds a conker that have fallen to the ground, puts them on a string and then whack it against another kid's conker. The winner is the one who's conker doesn't smash/fall off.
@BruceCM Unfortunately, objectively discussing things and leaving labels out will still end up with a locked thread, because this is a public space, more or less, and tragedy of the commons, and egos, and people are deeply polarized, and death of consensus. I expect this thread to get locked, not because of what's above, but because of what will inevitability happen. We probably should lock this thread while on a good note, no?
On a happier note: Hiya BruceCM, Jump, Snatcher, KKSlides!! I like all the nice people in this thread<3 You're my kind of people
@jump you won conkers by taking the time to prepare the nut, making it as hard as possible - everything from baking, pickling and even coating in varnish was fair game.
The trick was making it durable without leaving it brittle.
I dont think you ever forget the rap of a "missed" conker on the knuckles - don't forget that a dropped conker was fair game for stamps
In relation to your analogy, the prep could be the work put in to earn the bags of money in the first place.
@Mr-Fuggles777 That explains why I kept losing as I never bothered with the prep work and would just use the biggest conker I saw on the ground.
The only time I won was apart of a conkers tournament at my pub a couple of years ago. It was the final of the tourney one night I was there drinking anyway and one of the competitors didn't show up so I was asked to fill in and managed to somehow win in their place.
@jump I found that the bigger conkers usually lost, the insides are soft so there wasn't as much to brace against impact on the outer skin.
Side note but something I found interesting is that the chestnuts that you roast are a type of conker.
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