Movies and TV filmed in analog are much more aesthetically pleasing to the eyes than digital, which appear to rely on their filters and effects. Everything looks cold nowadays, compared to films made in previous decades which to me, give a much more natural and warm feel.
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I think a lot of it stems from the way a lot of people consume media, of all kinds. It's less about deriving entertainment from pieces of art or exploring new ideas and points of view. Instead it's more about collecting and rejecting various trinkets that you can use to build your identity
Not that I'm not also guilty of this, I certainly am. It's unavoidable to some degree. And it's certainly something that's been a thing since forever. I just think it's something that people are doing increasingly too often. It's like.... rather than sitting down and watching the latest Star Wars series and then talking about it instead people wait for a youtuber to put out a video explaining why they shouldn't like the latest Star Wars series and then just parroting those points
It's like, you don't have a view worth considering if you're doing this ALL the time. What you have is an identity you're trying to impress everyone with. And I'm not particularly impressed by that. At all. It's the least interesting kind of view to have
It really is boring how people are developing less of a personality with no real likes and dislikes of their own since it's been replaced with zeitgeist mood swings led by rubbish influencers and memes on the social interweb media.
It's not even like people are searching out for something they'd personally like. It's just becoming everyone watching/listening/reading the same things as everyone else so they can join in with the praising/complaining of it in the community, I'm so tired of "Disney has ruined [insert Disney franchise] and ***** my childhood". It's really weird as there are more books/movies/shows/music than ever before so you ca find something tailored to your exact taste.
And they certainly haven't dialled back the campiness
Does Space Babies count as camp or plain dumb?
But yeah, Doctor Who has always been sci-fantasy rather than sci-fi and it's all the better for it as they can pivot to different genres episode to episode like a musical or horror episode and no one bats an eyelid at the tonal whiplash but if it was a sci-fi show (even a camp one) it would be harder to change vibes episode to episode.
@skywake Absolutely, I have seen so many people make a piece of media apart of their identity and they just latch onto points and criticisms some YouTuber gave on a piece of media they actually saw. Sometimes people only just follow the popular opinion to not get hated on or seem cool for hating on a piece of media. It makes me sad to see online that opinions have become less accepted, and you are only able to lean into the more popular opinion on a piece of media. If you don’t, everyone gets on you for it and heavily criticizes you.
I think people have gotten too hung-up on upholding to canon in media. A few weeks ago, I saw someone kvetching about Origami King and how a certain plot point invalidates the "established canon" of previous Paper Marios, which is kind of absurd, given that Mario's always been flexible in that regard.
Adhering to canon for the sake of basic consistency is all well and good, but it's not worth worrying over every minute detail, which can weaken a good story. The question asked shouldn't be "does this one thing fit with everything else" and rather "does this make the story being told better?"
@N00BiSH I agree so strongly with this. Especially in series that have been helmed by different people or have numerous entries, maintaining "canon" is almost impossible. Star wars fans are especially guilty of this. Everytime anything new is added whatsoever, it apparently breaks canon. Also, the idea of breaking the paper mario canon is hysterical. People were really just looking for reasons to hate OK, weren't they?
@Bigmanfan Yeah, whatever a series considers "canon" is always going to change based on the voice of the people creating. In my opinion the best way to enjoy a series is to not take its canon so seriously. Makes it easier to enjoy individual stories for what they are rather than what they aren't. Obviously, it's going to be a case-by-case thing, since storytelling is inherently flexible, but you get what I'm saying right?
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@N00BiSH You're on the money. Storytelling over canon every time. I feel like Zelda is an excellent example for this. The overall canon of the series makes no sense, but because of this, they're able to get really creative and fun with most of the individual stories. And those are the ones that really matter at the end of the day.
@N00BiSH I don’t keep up with the canon in almost every game or game series I play. I don’t think the canon or plot is super important and doesn’t play a factor in my enjoyment of a game, but I always think the story is way more important than the canon, and I really don’t take aspects like that seriously. Some game series and media are known for not having accurate canons, but I think that’s fine and not really something I’d take seriously. The only important aspect I see with a game is really the gameplay and controls. The canon is an afterthought for me, and I really don’t read into the canons or stories for games, especially if the story is super simple and isn’t complex.
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@Pastellioli For me, I could care less about canon, or more specifically, what's canon or not. Which is a huge annoyance for me since any publisher, creator, owner, ect. can change anything on a dime. As a result, I just stopped caring altogether. since then, I've been doing great by just doing that.
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@N00BiSH You're on the money. Storytelling over canon every time. I feel like Zelda is an excellent example for this. The overall canon of the series makes no sense, but because of this, they're able to get really creative and fun with most of the individual stories. And those are the ones that really matter at the end of the day.
Nintendo still like to have it both ways with Zelda.
On the one hand, yes, every game is effectively a reboot and even supposed sequels will often let the continuity slide a bit in the name of a good game.
On the other, there's the Zelda timeline where you've got twenty games post-rationalized into a branching continuity with a bunch of world-reshaping events and resurrections of the three archetypes to fill in the gaps.
Then there are all the non-canon spinoffs on top of that, like it really makes a difference.
@Matt_Barber Zelda does technically have a timeline, but it's pretty stringed together. Regardless, it's still fun to have, and does kind of let it be a best if both worlds scenario. A timeline for those who care about canon, but not enough canon to ruin individual stories. But, I fear I have begun to discuss video games on the non gaming thread. Oops.
@Bigmanfan dang, you're right. We gotta shift this topic to another medium...got it.
I think another reason I prefer looser canon in stories is that sticking rigidly to canon can make it harder to start getting engaged in a story properly. The MCU is probably my biggest example; I've not seen much of the films(so take this with a grain of salt and feel free to call me wrong) and a big part of that is because they're so connected, which means there's a lot of material to comb over to get the fullest experience and that's kind of intimidating to me.
"Now I have an obligation to tag along and clear the area if Luigi so much as glances at a stiletto."
@N00BiSH Truthfully, the interconnected nature of the MCU has kind of prevented me from getting into it. I think in its current state, it is a perfect example of how to not do an interconnected story. At this point, catching up to the newest releases can involve watching dozens of hours of movies and TV shows, which is just a lot to ask of moviegoers. The whole setup is also inconvenient for other reasons. What if you want to watch an MCU film with someone who hasn't seen any? Your options to pick are going to be very limited, or else the friend will be very confused.
I've grown to hate the phrase "who asked for this," and "nobody asked for this." Because in reality, there is always somebody asking for something. I'm seeing these phrases thrown around a lot with the Smurfs movie on YouTube, and honestly, I'm kind of tired of it.
Speaking of Smurfs, since it's an unpopular opinion, I am genuinely excited for this movie. Love the cute new look they gave the Smurfs. Also, really hate the backlash this movie is getting. I wonder why I don't watch movie or cartoon related YouTubers.
Ever since seeing Smurfs: The Lost Village, I love the Smurfs, I play the games, I watch the 2021 cartoon, watch the classic cartoons. Honestly, I'm excited for this movie even if that's a really unpopular opinion.
@Sunsy
I think the people who said "Who asked for this?" or "Nobody asked for this" are the peoples who have detestation with certain franchise or they are too cool to accept the stuffs that being liked by certain peoples.
Haters gonna hate but we can stay focus on liking the stuffs we like regardless of their opinions.
Also, I wonder if we will get another Smurfs movie again and new Smurfs video games again.
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@Anti-Matter Indeed, I consider it a form of coping. By saying "nobody asked for this," comes off as "I didn't ask for this, therefore, no one asked for it" to me. Still people do ask for something, especially when it's from a series they like. Funnily enough, the only place I notice hate towards Smurfs is just YouTube itself, that's it. Once again, I wonder why I really don't watch movie and cartoon YouTubers. Reason, they're usually negative over said subjects.
Indeed. I don't know if there's a new Smurfs game based on the movie, but we've been getting lots of Smurfs games lately. Mission Vileaf, Prisoner of the Green Stone, Smurfs Kart, Smurfs Dreams to name a few.
Not to mention Smurfs is really popular in Europe AFAIK.
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@Sunsy yeah, The Smurfs were a big deal in Europe, but I've never understood why that, out of the big 4 Franco-Belgian comics, was the one the States decided to make big and popular. I feel more people would've gravitated towards Tintin and Asterix more than The Smurfs.
"Now I have an obligation to tag along and clear the area if Luigi so much as glances at a stiletto."
I think it's just because the Smurfs are a lot more kid-friendly and instantly accessible than Tintin or Asterix, it's something that Hollywood studios can market really easily with the sheer amount of easy to understand characters. By comparison, Tintin is a more mature and grounded adventure series aimed at tweens and teens, and Asterix is so European-centric in its humor that it feels too inaccessible for the States.
Personally speaking, I do wish the Tintin movie made a bigger splash than it did though. I guess the motion capture just wasn't really doing it for people.
I've grown to hate the phrase "who asked for this," and "nobody asked for this." Because in reality, there is always somebody asking for something.
Yeah, when people say stuff like that or 'nobody uses/likes x any more' (that's x as in [blank], not Twitter), it just shows that they're assuming that if they're not interested in something then nobody is, which is obviously nonsense. Especially with TV, a lot of people seem to think that everyone exclusively uses streaming now, which is a bit annoying to me in particular as I still watch live TV and DVDs and prefer them to streaming in many ways.
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@N00BiSH What's the fourth cartoon, given you mention Tin Tin and Asterix? I do know about Asterix's GBA game when I stumbled across an article about it years ago (amazing, 3D platformer on a GBA from what I remember).
@Dogorilla I agree, if anything I consider it a form of coping. "Nobody asked for this," just comes off as "I didn't ask for this," to me. It comes off as selfish too. That's cool, I actually use streaming to watch TV shows, but I still do buy DVDs and Blu-Rays of movies and shows I like. I do know people who still use live TV.
Still excited for the new Smurfs movie even if others aren't, if there is one complaint I have, it's the lack of The Lost Village Smurfs, since they've been incorporated into comics, cartoons, and even the games. Otherwise looking forward to it. Kind of glad an unpopular opinion thread for other stuff exists.
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