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Snatcher

@TheJGG Exactly, It’s not like I’m a complete hater of these movies, I wanted to like them, but as you said they had something, and just got worse after each movie, and phasma and kylo are one of my favorite characters from these movies!

And the Death Star scene in the last movie was just, come on, how the heck did it end up on a whole other planet.

How I would rate these movies, TFA is a solid 7/10 for me, No maybe a 8, TlJ is about 5/10 to maybe 6, and The ROS is around 4/10, it’s only that high because I actually really liked some of the lightsaber battles, but other then that that movie was a mess, for me anyway,

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I'm not a diehard Star Wars fan but I agree Last Jedi is the best of the new trilogy. I'm not sure what it is about it but it just felt fresh compared to Force Awakens, which is pretty good but a bit generic. I don't think Rise of Skywalker is terrible, it was entertaining enough but even more generic and plot-wise it wasn't a very satisfying conclusion to the trilogy. Plus poor Rose got nothing to do. Babu Frik is cool though, so swings and roundabouts.

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RR529

I think the Force Awakens was the best of the sequel trilogy. Definitely the safest & it had it's issues (like Rey besting Kylo in a duel the first time she's ever used a lightsaber), but a fun enough time.

I don't hate the Last Jedi, but I found it to be the most plodding of the bunch & in retrospect it was a bad idea to kill off Snoke with no plan (I guess they could have pushed forward with Kylo as the big bad, but where's the tension with a character we already know Rey can beat?).

As for the Rise of Skywalker, I think the whole Palpatine/granddaughter thing could have worked out well, had they started to set it up in the previous films. As it is it just feels completely random & shoehorned in as they had to find some way out of the hole (narratively) TLJ left them in. Shut your brain off and it's still a fun popcorn movie, though.

NOTE: Rouge One is the best of all the new films anyways.

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RR529 wrote:

I think the Force Awakens was the best of the sequel trilogy. Definitely the safest & it had it's issues (like Rey besting Kylo in a duel the first time she's ever used a lightsaber), but a fun enough time.

I don't hate the Last Jedi, but I found it to be the most plodding of the bunch & in retrospect it was a bad idea to kill off Snoke with no plan (I guess they could have pushed forward with Kylo as the big bad, but where's the tension with a character we already know Rey can beat?).

As for the Rise of Skywalker, I think the whole Palpatine/granddaughter thing could have worked out well, had they started to set it up in the previous films. As it is it just feels completely random & shoehorned in as they had to find some way out of the hole (narratively) TLJ left them in. Shut your brain off and it's still a fun popcorn movie, though.

NOTE: Rouge One is the best of all the new films anyways.

Hit the nail right on the head, This is literally how I feel about all of the movies pretty much, you even mentioned ray beating kylo in a duel the first time and that bothered me so much, despite that I really loved that film.

That earth Vader scene in rouge one, holy hell was it good.

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RR529 wrote:

I think the Force Awakens was the best of the sequel trilogy. Definitely the safest & it had it's issues (like Rey besting Kylo in a duel the first time she's ever used a lightsaber), but a fun enough time.

I don't hate the Last Jedi, but I found it to be the most plodding of the bunch & in retrospect it was a bad idea to kill off Snoke with no plan (I guess they could have pushed forward with Kylo as the big bad, but where's the tension with a character we already know Rey can beat?).

As for the Rise of Skywalker, I think the whole Palpatine/granddaughter thing could have worked out well, had they started to set it up in the previous films. As it is it just feels completely random & shoehorned in as they had to find some way out of the hole (narratively) TLJ left them in. Shut your brain off and it's still a fun popcorn movie, though.

NOTE: Rouge One is the best of all the new films anyways.

The only one I've seen out of those was Force Awakens when it came out in cinemas and I still hold it dearly as a great, highly rewatchable film. Apart from maybe Rogue One, I don't really want to see the following sequels since I know damn well they won't live up to that first one.

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Ralizah

The Last Jedi is the only film in the new trilogy I didn't actively hate. It still had its issues, and I'll never comprehend why anyone thought having a subversive take on the series from a completely different writer was a good way to bridge the Abrams films, but it definitely went some interesting directions.

TFA was such a disappointment for me. People dunk on it a bit now, but it was extremely popular at the time of release, and I just never understood what anyone enjoyed about it. It's so... generic. Utterly lacking its own sense of identity, and it introduced the worst cast of new characters in any of the trilogies.

With that said... TFA, as depressingly uninspired as it was, at least felt like a coherent adventure film. Stock Abrams, but still watchable. The Rise of Skywalker, on the other hand, was just a mess. Despite being the film I've seen most recently, it's the one I remember the least about. The script was such a mess that the entire experience kind of blurred together for me. I've never been so bored watching Star Wars in a theater, and I'm old enough that I remember watching Episode II when it first came out.

Rogue One and Solo are both better films than any of the new trilogy entries.

Disney's Star Wars content is actually not bad when they're not trying to force it into a nostalgia-inducing trilogy mold that just ends up killing it. The spinoff films were, as mentioned, pretty decent. The Disney Plus SW stuff I've seen has mostly been pretty good as well.

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@TheJGG Huh, from the way you talk about living in a very restrictive place where everything gets banned I had always assumed you lived in the deep south of America. ;p

@Fizza It's a shame that an innovative director with an amazing filmography which includes the likes of The Gift, Hudscucker Proxy, A Simple Plan, The Quick and the Dead any many more legit great films gets reduced to being the Spider Man guy because people are only interested in a movie if the cast are wearing jaunty costumes to stop being bored whilst watching a film nowadays. Add to it that people aren't even interested in these characters if they are in book form despite having a legacy of decades is a very strange zeitgeist.

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I watched Django Unchained yesterday. What a movie; Quentin Tarantino truly is a genius. I can't quote any of my favorite scenes from the movie cause I might get banned, lol.

Samuel L Jackson and Leonardo DiCaprio's energy was astonishingly good; they both work well together.

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Ralizah

@jump Sam Raimi will always be The Evil Dead guy to me.

Well, him and lead star Bruce Campbell, lol.

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jump

@Ralizah I know Bruce Campbell is the king of B-movies which is maybe the best roles for him but I would have loved to see him be given a few leading roles in Hollywood blockbusters.

Like go back to the 90's and recast some of those movies, I could easily see him being swapped with Nicholas Cage during that period of action movies he did, maybe a fun lead instead of Kevin Costner would have saved Waterworld, maybe the Mission Impossible franchise wouldn't have taken 4 films to get good if Bruce was in it instead of Tom Cruise and I could see Bruce instead of George Clooney in those Coen Brothers comedies he did too.

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Fizza

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to find a specific movie I saw about a year ago yet cannot for the life of me remember the name. I do remember a general idea of the plot so if someone knows it, I'd very much appreciate it.

It's about an English boy who gets sent to a mean boarding school where he makes friends and enemies, all that kind of stuff. However, there's also a department of the government working in the woods trying to destroy a monster living in a massive hole. One night, one of the monsters escapes, killing all the government workers around it then heading for the school. As it's put into lockdown, all of the teachers start getting brutally murdered by it and it's up to a ragtag group of the students to either escape or destroy it from the inside. I specifically remember it having both Simon Pegg as a fed up teacher trying to save his love life and Nick Frost as a conspiracy theorist in the woods who has a secret tie to both the school and monster.

I remember really liking it when I first saw it but have never been able to remember what it's called to try and watch it again. If anyone knows the name, please let me know asap.

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BruceCM

Slaughterhouse Rulez, @Fizza .... Sounds like a great film, so I'll keep an eye out for it now

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jump

@Fizza that’s the Slaughterhouse Rulez.

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jedgamesguy

Star Wars is so polarising, man. It's probably just the sequels though...

@Rambler According to Jon Spaihts, the screenwriter, the reason they watered down the Arabic themes and symbolism was because today's world doesn't reflect the Arabic world's exotic nature anymore, since it's a lot more mainstream. I think that's decent reasoning, although there's naturally gonna be critics that shame this decision.

@Snatcher The actress for Phasma really talked her up in the interviews as if she was going to be one of the main villains. What Rian Johnson did to her was complete rubbish, because there was so much potential for such a good character. The fact that two deleted scenes with Luke and Phasma did more for their characters than every other second of screentime is very poor.

The lightsaber combat was great though. One reviewer a while ago I remember said that they were very emotional fights, with a lot of untrained Force users, so they were very good as a result. The action was great, don't get me wrong, but the story was such a damp squib in the end.

@RR529 That was one gripe I had, Rey beat Kylo at the first time of asking. I liked Finn's lightsaber scenes a lot more because it was so clear how inexperienced he was. He was swinging it like a mace, and was very clumsy. He did land a hit on Kylo, though he was toying with Finn. That showed a lot more of his character.

TLJ was the king of killing off new or underused characters. Snoke, Paige Tico (who we connect with and feel for more than most sequel characters), Holdo (what an awful character, but brilliantly acted), Phasma and Snoke. All that just to bring back Palpatine who died a perfect death in RotJ.

Shut your brain off and it's still a fun popcorn movie, though.

Couldn't agree more. A lot of movies nowadays can be described like that, which honestly is a right shame. Make movies smart again. Also, Rogue One was brilliant. Well shot, well acted by both leads (absolute stars), and by Ben Mendelsohn, and just so good.

@jump I doubt it's much different. You wouldn't believe it at times!

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Fizza

@BruceCM @jump THANK YOU.

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BruceCM

No problem, @Fizza .... Fun fact, he's one of a few who's managed to play characters in Dr Who, Star Wars & Star Trek

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Yeah, he's been in quite a lot of stuff, @Rambler .... & Is usually good

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Fizza

BruceCM wrote:

No problem @Fizza .... Fun fact, he's one of a few who's managed to play characters in Dr Who, Star Wars & Star Trek

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And Resident Evil

Wasn't he also a big character in the recent Mission Impossible movies as well? He was, to quote Spider-Man Homecoming, the 'guy in the chair' if I'm not mistaken.

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