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Drawdler

I wouldn't. They already charge a lot extra here... I have no pride in that.

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We shouldn't be forced to pay a premium upcharge, just because a product was produced in our country. These big business barstewards have been getting away with murder, by outsourcing jobs to save on their payroll's. Now that these types of business methods are being looked down upon, companies aren't intelligent enough to formulate new business strategie's. Therefore, they expect us (lower & middle class) citizens to compensate for their losses. This is just another example of the rich becoming richer and the poor becoming poorer. To tell you the truth, outsourcing jobs should have never been tolerated. Of course, big business would rather profit more than concern themselves with the economical state of the country where their company resides. They've been allowed to cut corners and develop whatever type of business infrastructure however they desire. Instead of taking the high road, they chose the low road. The American economy never had a chance at continuing to be prosperous, by allowing these companies so much freedom to evolve their business strategie's and infrastructure in this manner.

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Bankai

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We shouldn't be forced to pay a premium upcharge, just because a product was produced in our country. These big business barstewards have been getting away with murder, by outsourcing jobs to save on their payroll's. Now that these types of business methods are being looked down upon, companies aren't intelligent enough to formulate new business strategies. Therefore, they expect us (lower & middle class) citizens to compensate for their losses. This is just another example of the rich becoming richer and the poor becoming poorer.

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say you don't own a manufacturing company.

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Nintenbro

Nope... I don't need to own a manufacturing company to be able to notice the snake in the grass. Any other belief would either be ignorant or just plain naive. Money makes the world go around.

By the way @LollipopChoSaw, I was in the process of editing my post while you were quoting me.

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Bankai

G4L wrote:

Nope... I don't need to own a manufacturing company to be able to notice the snake in the grass.

Yep. And I don't need to have a medical degree to practice surgery, or a pilot's license to get behind a Boeing.

Just humour me: what, precisely, qualifies you to pass judgement on how to run a business?

Any other belief would either be ignorant or just plain naive. Money makes the world go around.

Yep. I agree. Money makes the world go round.

Offshoring jobs cuts costs for a company in a magnitude of 10, even 20 times.

I don't think you would be willing to pay 10 to 20 times as much for the same product to keep all the jobs within America. In fact, you've already made it quite clear you expect manufacturers to keep all the jobs, but not charge as much, otherwise they're disgusting capitalist pigs.

So who's ripping off who? Oh right, I forgot, consumers are never at fault.

the_shpydar

G4L wrote:

We shouldn't be forced to pay a premium upcharge, just because a product was produced in our country. These big business barstewards have been getting away with murder, by outsourcing jobs to save on their payroll's. Now that these types of business methods are being looked down upon, companies aren't intelligent enough to formulate new business strategie's. Therefore, they expect us (lower & middle class) citizens to compensate for their losses. This is just another example of the rich becoming richer and the poor becoming poorer. To tell you the truth, outsourcing jobs should have never been tolerated. Of course, big business would rather profit more than concern themselves with the economical state of the country where their company resides. They've been allowed to cut corners and develop whatever type of business infrastructure however they desire. Instead of taking the high road, they chose the low road. The American economy never had a chance at continuing to be prosperous, by allowing these companies so much freedom to evolve their business strategie's and infrastructure in this manner.

While I would love to waste my time explaining how ridicuolous and ignorant all this is, i'm sure @Waltz will cover things nicely.

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G4L wrote:

We shouldn't be forced to pay a premium upcharge, just because a product was produced in our country. These big business barstewards have been getting away with murder, by outsourcing jobs to save on their payroll's. Now that these types of business methods are being looked down upon, companies aren't intelligent enough to formulate new business strategie's. Therefore, they expect us (lower & middle class) citizens to compensate for their losses. This is just another example of the rich becoming richer and the poor becoming poorer. To tell you the truth, outsourcing jobs should have never been tolerated. Of course, big business would rather profit more than concern themselves with the economical state of the country where their company resides. They've been allowed to cut corners and develop whatever type of business infrastructure however they desire. Instead of taking the high road, they chose the low road. The American economy never had a chance at continuing to be prosperous, by allowing these companies so much freedom to evolve their business strategie's and infrastructure in this manner.

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I agree w/ you.

Outsourcing jobs also allows co.s to get away w/ other things, in addition to, & aside from payroll; things that would more than likely not be tolerated here in the States(U.S.A). Underage labor, poor treatment of workers, no regard for the conditions the workers work in/under, intimidation/threatening of workers, etc. Just many things like that. This is a big reason co.s outsource. They can run their companies, like tyrannical dictators, since the employees are in another country, outside of United States jurisdiction.

I would buy goods, & services from my own country, & to an extent I do, like much of the food I consume, for instance, is local. The problem is, most of the time, the product(s) I buy made here in the U.S.A are generally ridiculously more expensive, & far-less of quality; almost purposely designed cheaply it seems, than in comparison to a product made in another country. Another problem, is that products can literally say, "made in the U.S.A", while it really means, & should say, "parts manufactured in (insert country/part of the world), pieced together/assembled in the U.S.A". A derivative of this is that any product could/might also say the same thing, when in fact the product is only sold in the U.S.A.

Generally, corporations don't like to funnel money down to the "little guy". It's always kept at the top of the company.

Edit: To answer the question, yes, if only the products in my country were able to rival competitors products, & that I knew that I wasn't lining some ceo's pockets, while the actual workers don't get anything.

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Bankai

The problem is, most of the time, the product(s) I buy made here in the U.S.A are generally ridiculously more expensive, & far-less of quality; almost purposely designed cheaply it seems, than in comparison to a product made in another country.

Bah, fine, let's go again:

The products are more expensive because a labourer in the US costs 20 times as much to hire. Where do you think the costs go? Someone has to absorb them - so either the consumer pays more, or the corporation goes bankrupt.

And you're right, the products are deliberately made more cheaply. Why do you think that is? Don't worry - I'll answer for you - costs need to be kept down to hire those American workers, because the consumer throws a tantrum is the price goes up.

Corporations are stuck between a rock and a hard place - consumers demand the world, but they're sure as heck not willing to pay for it.

No one seems to remember that it's not just the corporations that are greedy under capitalism - consumers, too, are greedy.

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I saw a report on TV the other day saying that some American companies are starting to bring jobs back on shore. The reason being that as China's economy grows, wages are also increasing and it's no longer as cheap to manufacture in China - especially once logistical costs are factored in.

As a result, some companies (I can't remember what they were manufacturing) are finding the cost of manufacturing in the USA to be comparable to China, enough so that they are opening up American factories. (I think they also mentioned something about the quality of goods being better - from memory, it was a pretty labour-intensive product - although that may have been patriotism talking).

It will be interesting to see if this is, in fact, the case, and, if so, if it's a trend that continues.

It'll be a while before Australia takes that up though, given Aussie wages!

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BenAV

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Would you be willing to pay more something made in Australia?

Not really.
Just because it's made in my country doesn't really guarantee that the quality will be better.
I'd rather just get it cheaper.

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No worries! Pretty soon oil and thus transportation will be so expensive that cheap imports from the Far East will be a thing of the past.

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Bankai

Wheels2050 wrote:

I saw a report on TV the other day saying that some American companies are starting to bring jobs back on shore. The reason being that as China's economy grows, wages are also increasing and it's no longer as cheap to manufacture in China - especially once logistical costs are factored in.

As a result, some companies (I can't remember what they were manufacturing) are finding the cost of manufacturing in the USA to be comparable to China, enough so that they are opening up American factories. (I think they also mentioned something about the quality of goods being better - from memory, it was a pretty labour-intensive product - although that may have been patriotism talking).

It will be interesting to see if this is, in fact, the case, and, if so, if it's a trend that continues.

It'll be a while before Australia takes that up though, given Aussie wages!

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Thing is, though, China manufacturing is losing out to Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and North Korea right now.

As those economies improve it will be Myanmar, Laos, Philippines, Indonesia. There will always, always be a cheaper place to handle manufacturing than the developed west. Any attempts to encourage large-scale manufacturing back to places like the US and Australia is futile.

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Wheels2050

LollipopChoSaw wrote:

Wheels2050 wrote:

I saw a report on TV the other day saying that some American companies are starting to bring jobs back on shore. The reason being that as China's economy grows, wages are also increasing and it's no longer as cheap to manufacture in China - especially once logistical costs are factored in.

As a result, some companies (I can't remember what they were manufacturing) are finding the cost of manufacturing in the USA to be comparable to China, enough so that they are opening up American factories. (I think they also mentioned something about the quality of goods being better - from memory, it was a pretty labour-intensive product - although that may have been patriotism talking).

It will be interesting to see if this is, in fact, the case, and, if so, if it's a trend that continues.

It'll be a while before Australia takes that up though, given Aussie wages!

Thing is, though, China manufacturing is losing out to Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and North Korea right now.

As those economies improve it will be Myanmar, Laos, Philippines, Indonesia. There will always, always be a cheaper place to handle manufacturing than the developed west. Any attempts to encourage large-scale manufacturing back to places like the US and Australia is futile.

Good point.

It always annoys me when we have politicians pushing for more manufacturing in Australia (Bob Katter is a highly amusing example). It's just not sustainable, and I don't know why they honestly think it's a good idea to sink cash into propping up manufacturing for the sole reason of keeping it on shore. (Apart from getting the votes of those constituents who are affected).

I think a far better option would be to spend that money helping to retrain people in the manufacturing industry so that they can move into something more economically viable for Australia - play to your strengths, and all that.

I used to have a blog link here. I'll put it back up when the blog has something to read.

shingi_70

If the industry isn't there a d has no long term benefits I agree it shouldn't be pushed. At the same time as someone who is born and lives in a area hit by outsourcing (Detroit) I could see bringing back the industry here having positive effects.

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komicturtle

Was going to say something suggestive but I'll keep it to my self :3

Also.. The Q.. I don't see the use for it..

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Also.. The Q.. I don't see the use for it..

It exists only to assist the 7 in their efforts to plagiarize me.

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komicturtle

Maybe... I just think it's stupid- I can access my Google Play account from this "cloud" without a $400 ball. And I have a surround sound system I can hook up my phone, actually, my iPod to.. And there's cheaper, smarter options.

Going to have to read up more to understand I guess :3

EDIT: From reading up on it.. I guess I can use it as a mini bowling ball, because there's really not much to this $400 bowling ball.

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shinesprite

No, I don't even live in my homeland. . . . but I wish I did

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shingi_70

Well pretty much the q is a cloud connected sonos box that also does video. Has great build and audio quality. You donthave to buy one anditsapretty niche product. Just another option.

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