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Pizzamorg

Eel wrote:

Ah so it is indeed supposed to work like that then

Seems a bit odd. No wonder blocked people are constantly anxious about it, they can very easily tell they’ve been blocked/know something is missing.

It is one of the flaws of the current form of the feature. The forum actively lets you know users are shutting you out of a conversation, because quotes and @s still show up as well as notifications on the forum index. It makes it hard to fight the temptation to just log out and see what the conversation is about.

Admittedly, I don't really know how you get around this. A feature like this works on say Twitter, because Twitter is just a massive void. When a person comes at you on there and you choose to mute them, they are just gone, basically.

But here, when it is a fairly small group of regular posters all posting in the same handful of threads, things really start breaking down when you start ignoring multiple users or are being ignored by multiple users.

The feature still should exist for it's intended purposes, but I wish the forum had a way of scrubbing a person entirely, so you don't feel like you're being shut behind a two way mirror. Every time a person who is or has ignored blocked is quoted, @ or posts in a thread, this shouldn't show up at all in my mind - other than when they create a thread. But I dunno whether that is possible within the forum tools.

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Snatcher

@Pizzamorg You might as well log out, because I don’t think there will be a fix anytime soon, I don’t do it but I wouldn’t care if other did if I had them in ignore, as of now I only have one.

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Pizzamorg

Snatcher wrote:

@Pizzamorg You might as well log out, because I don’t think there will be a fix anytime soon, I don’t do it but I wouldn’t care if other did if I had them in ignore, as of now I only have one.

Not log out as in leave, as in the system is fixed to I guess accounts, not IPs. So you can just log out, surf a thread as a guest and see all the users who you ignored or ignored you. Which kinda renders the whole thing pointless, if it is to protect users.

Edit: Also people often come into this thread, who don't really use the feature and just say 'I don't care' and belittle the real issues, which really doesn't help things, as you can't see the functional problems if you only ignore one person or are ignored by one person.

Edited on by Pizzamorg

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Link-Hero

@Eel @Zuljaras
Stuff like that was the reason why I would occasionally open certain threads in incognito mode before to make sure if it was a website bug or not. It's an annoying flaw in the ignore system.

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Rambler

Rambler wrote:

Just out of interest, what would happen if everybody blocked/ignored you?

Well, I thought I would have at least one reply...

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Ralizah

@Eel So, here's my take.

Ignoring is great. Beautiful. I love it. People should absolutely be able to control whose posts they see, and it can tremendously improve the experience of browsing these sites. Once I put a certain number of people who annoyed the heck out of me on ignore, my experience was improved significantly. It costs them nothing, and makes the experience better for me as a whole.

But blocking gives you control over the browsing experience of someone else, and, IMO, it's too much power for anyone to have at a click of a button. You said you could see how it would be distressing, but I know for a fact it can be, because, on one of the sister sites, I watched a long-time member actually leave once another long-time member who posts a lot blocked them, which cut them out of conversations and made them feel like an outsider.

I've heard the excuse that if you simply leave the ignore function up, someone can skirt around it or talk behind your back or whatever, the but the same is still technically true of blocking if you use incognito mode or log out.

I guess I'd say that blocking should still be a feature, but one locked behind moderator/admin intervention. If I've ignored someone, but they're being a nuisance and directing comments at posts I've made, I should be able to appeal to an admin and have them investigate the situation and block the person if there's a pattern of interaction that's making me feel uneasy.

But I think people will oftentimes just block other users they don't like without giving it a second thought.

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RubyCarbuncle

You can yes but just having the person on ignore prevents you from seeing their posts on Article pages but you can still see their posts if you choose to visit their Profile. Blocking is also possible only after you've ignored someone and that prevents both of you from seeing each others posts all over this site and the other 2 sister sites Push Square and Pure Xbox. On my old account I had nobody on ignore but since coming back on this one unfortunately I now have 20 people on ignore with 15 of them blocked. It's a shame I had to resort to that but these individuals were just grating on my nerves.

I'm glad they added block because before you could only ignore and as mentioned above it makes the experience far better for us. Next I think posts where somebody mentions a person you ignored or ignored/blocked should be hidden too. You know when you're commenting on an Article and you see someone mention the person? yeah I think posts like that should be hidden too because you've added that name to the ignore list or ignore and block list.

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Eel

I’m sure all this new feedback and reports that there’s a workaround to ignore/block moderators and possibly even members of staff will be useful for @antdickens

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CANOEberry

RubyCarbuncle wrote:

I think posts where somebody mentions a person you ignored or ignored/blocked should be hidden too. You know when you're commenting on an Article and you see someone mention the person? yeah I think posts like that should be hidden too because you've added that name to the ignore list or ignore and block list.

With respect - I vehemently disagree. The approach you're advocating here is profoundly open to abuse, first of all. Are we to believe that the mere sight of a person's username is going to be so upsetting and destabilizing that we can't use this site in peace? We may have blocked a person, but we don't need this kind of crazy revisionist disappearing of them entirely.

I have a pretty long ignore list, but that doesn't mean I want to lose the input of others just because they're addressing someone I no longer converse with!

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RubyCarbuncle

CANOEberry wrote:

RubyCarbuncle wrote:

I think posts where somebody mentions a person you ignored or ignored/blocked should be hidden too. You know when you're commenting on an Article and you see someone mention the person? yeah I think posts like that should be hidden too because you've added that name to the ignore list or ignore and block list.

With respect - I vehemently disagree. The approach you're advocating here is profoundly open to abuse, first of all. Are we to believe that the mere sight of a person's username is going to be so upsetting and destabilizing that we can't use this site in peace? We may have blocked a person, but we don't need this kind of crazy revisionist disappearing of them entirely.

I have a pretty long ignore list, but that doesn't mean I want to lose the input of others just because they're addressing someone I no longer converse with!

Umm you know that's how the block tool works on Facebook right?, well more or less. You can't see any trace of the person at all so I genuinely don't understand how such a thing can be open to abuse when the only way to make a person disappear (lol that doesn't sound right but anyway) is to add them to ignore then block them afterwards.

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Zuljaras

@RubyCarbuncle You do realize that this is a forum and not a social network right? People are here because of Nintendo products.

Nintendo Life =/= Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc.

Edited on by Zuljaras

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/05/random-doom-fan-has-a-novel-way-to-display-a-destroyed-switch-cartridge

CANOEberry

RubyCarbuncle wrote:

Umm you know that's how the block tool works on Facebook right?, well more or less. You can't see any trace of the person at all so I genuinely don't understand how such a thing can be open to abuse when the only way to make a person disappear (lol that doesn't sound right but anyway) is to add them to ignore then block them afterwards.

LOL Come on, my friend. I think we can aim a little higher with our community standards than Facebook, hahaha.

Consider this: I block RudeUser123. If a person whose comments and posts I like (say, Ralizah, just for example) just happens to reply to RudeUser123, I won't see Ralizah's comment, though I generally always want to. Why should I lose the freedom to read Ralizah while losing RudeUser123 at the same time? If Ralizah isn't directly quoting RudeUser123, and is giving a brilliant rebuttal, I don't see how that harms me.

If people know that someone is blocking RudeUser123, they can just include that name in their comment/post in order to sneakily block someone. Do you see what I mean?

CANOEberry

CANOEberry

@antdickens Sorry - which features in particular did you mean? I arrived late to this discussion...

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Zuljaras

@antdickens Sure but they are sites with millions of users and there are targeted attack there. Here I have never seen anything like that besides some new trolls that post one hateful thing and they are gone.

Hiding your own posts (for me at least) is because you know you are doing something irritating or spam and you know that regulars will report you to the moderators.

This is the ONLY thing I do not like about this feature.

You can say that there are lots of people and they will react but we all know this is not 100% true.

Edited on by Zuljaras

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/05/random-doom-fan-has-a-novel-way-to-display-a-destroyed-switch-cartridge

antdickens

@CANOEberry I’m just talking about the ignore features in general.

However I believe there is merit in what RubyCarbuncle is suggesting. It all comes down to personal preference and different people will ignore/block people for different reasons. I can see the rationale behind wanting to hide posts that merely mention/reply people on my ignore list, it would make things more complete. I can also see why people wouldn’t want that, which is why it’s the way it is now.

I actually think having a toggle (maybe on a per user basis) to hide mentions/quotes as well would be the solution, but ultimately it’s probably a step to far for now and I’m content to keep them as they are.

And by agree to disagree, that’s exactly what I’m saying, you both have valid views but they don’t align, which is ok.

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antdickens

@Zuljaras I’d be pretty sure it’s a very, very small number of people (if any) who have blocked you from seeing their posts and if they have it’ll be likely because of something you said that they disagree with, not because they trying to post spam. You can only block a limited number of users therefore it would be a pretty bad way to try and post spam.

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CANOEberry

@antdickens Thank you for clarifying. I agree that a toggle would be best, but I don't know how hard that would be to implement. Live and let live, I guess.

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