You're thinking of people who haven't looked into the 3DS market at all. Parent's who specifically said no to the 3DS because of 3D would assume that something like 3DS lite or flat are just that. Light and flat versions of the 3DS. With an entirely new name they're going to stop and ask "what's that?".
I don't think it'll be that big of a deal. Parents are confused regardless if they aren't gamers. Plus the box says it plays DS and 3DS games. Parent's are still confused about DS and 3DS games. They'll be told the difference once and they won't forget, it's simple. Or after the kids get the 2ds, they will tell their parents.
But as others have said before, if you've never held it, how can you say it's better? From the way it was being held in the commercials, it looks comfortable, Unlike the original 3ds that most people hold by the bottom piece, you'd hold this by the middle. So making the bottom screen larger would probably be really awkward for a system you're holding by it's middle because you'd have to hold it further away from your body to fully be able to see both screens. Besides, I'm sure they are saving the bigger screens for an XL version.
You're also taking away the fact that this is for CHILDREN. I don't know if you have children but they won't understand the sleep button also being the power button. They will more likely just push it and turn the system off by accident.
To everyone saying why not just turn the 3D off? BECAUSE THE 3DS AND 2DS ARE NOT THE SAME PRICE. Parents will do anything to save money and while $40 seems like nothing to you, to parents, a save is a save. Not every parent is game savvy. Just because their buying kids a DS doesn't mean they know how to work one. I turn the wifi button off on my nephews 3ds but when he holds it, he always accidentally flicks it on. To truly turn off Wifi and 3D you have to go in the system, set a password and all that other stuff. Now I know gaming so it's not difficult for me, but for people who don't play games and are just buying it for their kids, setting parental controls in settings can be a pain when they can buy this and eliminate it all together. Saying the screen can get scratched? Yes it can, but kids also have a habit of banging the clam shell, pulling the top screen back to the point where you hear the click and possibly breaking it. If parents want to protect it they'll buy the carrying case.
And of course it's related to the new pokemon. Why do you think it's being released the same day as Pokemon X and Y?
@JuanitoShet I think it's just those people who believe that children aren't a profitable market in gaming. That a huge majority of the original DS market was children who finally had a handheld with appropriate games for them.
@Xyvox. Unless....you hold the 2ds like a tablet....... Hence why the buttons are higher? I can see this becoming a little weird only when you need to use the bottom touch screen. But when younger children play (under about 8yrs old), they normally lay the 3ds down to use the touchscreen because a lot of them don't know how to hold the stylus and the system at the same time.
@WinterWarm if you've seen the comments that were in the original announcement of the 2ds, you'd realize how hard it is to tell the difference between real outrage and sarcasm. I apologize for not reading through it.
@MathRaph my nephew was 6 1/2 when we got his 3ds. Mario Kart 7 is a must have for all kids. One game my nephew loved was Lego Batman 2. He still plays it even though he finished it. It's pretty simple because it's in level format and not open world in the 3ds. It's voice acted so there's hardly any reading involved and once you show them once, they get the hang of it pretty easy.
Other games he's got is De Blob 2 (DS), Super Mario 3d land, Donkey Kong 3D and Sonic Generations. He doesn't really understand the regular Pokemon RPG games so I got him Pokemon Rumble Blast which he enjoys. It's really just battling and collecting toy figurine versions of the pokemon. There's also a new Ninja Turtles and Spongebob game coming out this fall if he's into either of those Nickelodeon shows.
EXACTLY, I don't see why they are acting as if they're just going to stop making 3ds' all of a sudden. In fact to me it seems like Nintendo sticking more to their "family gaming" incentive. Pick your child up a 2ds, while you get a 3ds. They even have people playing on the 3ds, with their kid playing the 2ds in the commercial.
As I said earlier, people need to think like a consumer that doesn't have a 3ds yet.
Same system, option of 3d and hinges. $40 difference. What if you're someone venturing over from the PSP market or you skipped out on the DS series all together? Kids just becoming old enough to play games who missed the DS generation. There are people like that and for them, hinges mean nothing. The XL version probably won't be available until next year and that's honestly the only reason I'm getting the Pink/White 3DS XL and not the Red/White 2DS. I don't want to wait for it.
This thing will sell a fortune because it's the perfect christmas present for a child's first gaming device for the right place. Child "Tablets" are in the range of $149 and to me, parents would go for the nintendo where they know what kind of games are made and if their children can play them (Pokemon, Mario, Sonic) versus trying to search amazon, google, apple stores for suitable games their kids can play. And I think the fact that it DOESN'T look identical to the 3ds and DS will make kids want it even more. When their parents bringing home their new XboxOne's and PS4's, the kids will feel like they are in on it too with something "new".
Why are people acting like this is something totally different?
It's basically what the playstation vita did by having a WIFI vs 3G option. They're simply removing one of the effects (and the hinges). It's the same size screens as a 3ds, same functionality as a 3ds. I never put my 3ds in my pocket and you can buy a little case for it. If my nephew didn't already have a 3ds, I would have bought him a 2ds for the price cut alone.
What would have prefer them to say? GET A NINTENDO 3DS, now available without the 3d? That would confuse people even more. People get getting caught up in the trivial 2/3. Saying some people will get confused by that is silly. People still get confused by the DS, DSi, DSlite, 3DS. And if you think people are really that confused then Xbox is in some serious trouble for going to ONE after 360....
The 2ds is essentially the 3ds without 3d. They play and will make the same exact games. It's not REPLACING the 3ds. It's a cheaper option for people who don't care about the 3d effect or hinges.
They never said it's superior to the 3ds. They said it's the SAME as having a 3ds. And for a child, something that is $129 has no 3d effect and doesn't allow them to possibly break the hinges off is a steal. It's the same exact system without the 3d effect. I don't understand how that's not obvious?
5-7 year olds wouldn't even be playing that game as it's rated T for teen and they probably can't even read, much less understand it, so your argument is silly.
1. People who have yet to get a 3ds (those people still exist) and who don't think it's worth paying 169 for and don't care about 3d. 2. People who are worried about children breaking the hinges of the 3ds and never having the 3d effect on. Yes there's a parental setting but if a child DOESN'T have a 3ds, WHY WOULD I BUY THAT when I can just get a 2ds and not have to worry about any settings. Honestly, if this would have come out a year ago, I would have gotten my 8 year old nephew it as he doesn't play with the 3d on and sometimes wiggles the hinged screen too much for my liking.
But it's not to replace the 3ds, it's not for people who already have a 3ds. THERE'S A REASON IT'S COMING OUT THE SAME DATE AS POKEMON. And stop talking about it not fitting in your pocket. I've never even carried my 3ds in my pocket and don't know anyone who does.
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Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Low-Key Approach to the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut Reveals Wasn't Surprising
@Shadowkiller97
You're thinking of people who haven't looked into the 3DS market at all. Parent's who specifically said no to the 3DS because of 3D would assume that something like 3DS lite or flat are just that. Light and flat versions of the 3DS. With an entirely new name they're going to stop and ask "what's that?".
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Low-Key Approach to the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut Reveals Wasn't Surprising
@retro_player_22
I don't think it'll be that big of a deal. Parents are confused regardless if they aren't gamers. Plus the box says it plays DS and 3DS games. Parent's are still confused about DS and 3DS games. They'll be told the difference once and they won't forget, it's simple. Or after the kids get the 2ds, they will tell their parents.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Low-Key Approach to the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut Reveals Wasn't Surprising
@Shadowkiller97
Using the 3DS name would have people assuming it still plays in 3D, which would not be what they want.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Low-Key Approach to the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut Reveals Wasn't Surprising
@unrandomsam
That would make the 2DS more powerful than the 3DS, thus would be an upgrade and not a variation.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Low-Key Approach to the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut Reveals Wasn't Surprising
@gatorboi352
They'll do what they normally do when they go game shopping on their own, ask someone in the store.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Low-Key Approach to the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut Reveals Wasn't Surprising
@kirk
But as others have said before, if you've never held it, how can you say it's better? From the way it was being held in the commercials, it looks comfortable, Unlike the original 3ds that most people hold by the bottom piece, you'd hold this by the middle. So making the bottom screen larger would probably be really awkward for a system you're holding by it's middle because you'd have to hold it further away from your body to fully be able to see both screens. Besides, I'm sure they are saving the bigger screens for an XL version.
You're also taking away the fact that this is for CHILDREN. I don't know if you have children but they won't understand the sleep button also being the power button. They will more likely just push it and turn the system off by accident.
Re: 3D Gaming is Very Much A Part of Nintendo's Future Plans
@Juanitoshet
They would literally have to put NINTENDO 2DS: Kids Edition for people to finally understand it.
Re: 3D Gaming is Very Much A Part of Nintendo's Future Plans
To everyone saying why not just turn the 3D off? BECAUSE THE 3DS AND 2DS ARE NOT THE SAME PRICE. Parents will do anything to save money and while $40 seems like nothing to you, to parents, a save is a save. Not every parent is game savvy. Just because their buying kids a DS doesn't mean they know how to work one. I turn the wifi button off on my nephews 3ds but when he holds it, he always accidentally flicks it on. To truly turn off Wifi and 3D you have to go in the system, set a password and all that other stuff. Now I know gaming so it's not difficult for me, but for people who don't play games and are just buying it for their kids, setting parental controls in settings can be a pain when they can buy this and eliminate it all together. Saying the screen can get scratched? Yes it can, but kids also have a habit of banging the clam shell, pulling the top screen back to the point where you hear the click and possibly breaking it. If parents want to protect it they'll buy the carrying case.
And of course it's related to the new pokemon. Why do you think it's being released the same day as Pokemon X and Y?
Re: Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D
@JuanitoShet I think it's just those people who believe that children aren't a profitable market in gaming. That a huge majority of the original DS market was children who finally had a handheld with appropriate games for them.
Re: Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D
@Xyvox. Unless....you hold the 2ds like a tablet....... Hence why the buttons are higher? I can see this becoming a little weird only when you need to use the bottom touch screen. But when younger children play (under about 8yrs old), they normally lay the 3ds down to use the touchscreen because a lot of them don't know how to hold the stylus and the system at the same time.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@WinterWarm if you've seen the comments that were in the original announcement of the 2ds, you'd realize how hard it is to tell the difference between real outrage and sarcasm. I apologize for not reading through it.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@MathRaph my nephew was 6 1/2 when we got his 3ds. Mario Kart 7 is a must have for all kids. One game my nephew loved was Lego Batman 2. He still plays it even though he finished it. It's pretty simple because it's in level format and not open world in the 3ds. It's voice acted so there's hardly any reading involved and once you show them once, they get the hang of it pretty easy.
Other games he's got is De Blob 2 (DS), Super Mario 3d land, Donkey Kong 3D and Sonic Generations. He doesn't really understand the regular Pokemon RPG games so I got him Pokemon Rumble Blast which he enjoys. It's really just battling and collecting toy figurine versions of the pokemon. There's also a new Ninja Turtles and Spongebob game coming out this fall if he's into either of those Nickelodeon shows.
Re: Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D
@archgamer
EXACTLY, I don't see why they are acting as if they're just going to stop making 3ds' all of a sudden. In fact to me it seems like Nintendo sticking more to their "family gaming" incentive. Pick your child up a 2ds, while you get a 3ds. They even have people playing on the 3ds, with their kid playing the 2ds in the commercial.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
As I said earlier, people need to think like a consumer that doesn't have a 3ds yet.
Same system, option of 3d and hinges. $40 difference. What if you're someone venturing over from the PSP market or you skipped out on the DS series all together? Kids just becoming old enough to play games who missed the DS generation. There are people like that and for them, hinges mean nothing. The XL version probably won't be available until next year and that's honestly the only reason I'm getting the Pink/White 3DS XL and not the Red/White 2DS. I don't want to wait for it.
This thing will sell a fortune because it's the perfect christmas present for a child's first gaming device for the right place. Child "Tablets" are in the range of $149 and to me, parents would go for the nintendo where they know what kind of games are made and if their children can play them (Pokemon, Mario, Sonic) versus trying to search amazon, google, apple stores for suitable games their kids can play. And I think the fact that it DOESN'T look identical to the 3ds and DS will make kids want it even more. When their parents bringing home their new XboxOne's and PS4's, the kids will feel like they are in on it too with something "new".
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@Pachterkid Yes, and that's why you wouldn't buy that over. But imagine if you hadn't yet bought a 3ds and had the choice and a $129 price?
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
Why are people acting like this is something totally different?
It's basically what the playstation vita did by having a WIFI vs 3G option. They're simply removing one of the effects (and the hinges). It's the same size screens as a 3ds, same functionality as a 3ds. I never put my 3ds in my pocket and you can buy a little case for it. If my nephew didn't already have a 3ds, I would have bought him a 2ds for the price cut alone.
What would have prefer them to say? GET A NINTENDO 3DS, now available without the 3d? That would confuse people even more. People get getting caught up in the trivial 2/3. Saying some people will get confused by that is silly. People still get confused by the DS, DSi, DSlite, 3DS. And if you think people are really that confused then Xbox is in some serious trouble for going to ONE after 360....
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@thanos316
The 2ds is essentially the 3ds without 3d. They play and will make the same exact games. It's not REPLACING the 3ds. It's a cheaper option for people who don't care about the 3d effect or hinges.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Surprises Us All With the 2DS and Wii U Price Cut
@WinterWarm What are you even talking about?
They never said it's superior to the 3ds. They said it's the SAME as having a 3ds. And for a child, something that is $129 has no 3d effect and doesn't allow them to possibly break the hinges off is a steal. It's the same exact system without the 3d effect. I don't understand how that's not obvious?
5-7 year olds wouldn't even be playing that game as it's rated T for teen and they probably can't even read, much less understand it, so your argument is silly.
Re: Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D
The nintendo 2ds is designed for two groups.
1. People who have yet to get a 3ds (those people still exist) and who don't think it's worth paying 169 for and don't care about 3d.
2. People who are worried about children breaking the hinges of the 3ds and never having the 3d effect on. Yes there's a parental setting but if a child DOESN'T have a 3ds, WHY WOULD I BUY THAT when I can just get a 2ds and not have to worry about any settings. Honestly, if this would have come out a year ago, I would have gotten my 8 year old nephew it as he doesn't play with the 3d on and sometimes wiggles the hinged screen too much for my liking.
But it's not to replace the 3ds, it's not for people who already have a 3ds. THERE'S A REASON IT'S COMING OUT THE SAME DATE AS POKEMON. And stop talking about it not fitting in your pocket. I've never even carried my 3ds in my pocket and don't know anyone who does.