When it comes to selling a new fighting game series, it really helps to have that special something to help it stand out. When your game title doesn’t include the words ‘Street Fighter’, ‘BlazBlue’, ‘Tekken’ or ‘Mortal Kombat’, the success of your violent creation can often rest on that unique USP. Unfortunately, the difference between a unique selling point and a gaudy gimmick can sometimes be hard to distinguish, which is presumably why a game like Fight of Gods somehow made it into the world.
You might remember this as the game that the Malaysian government effectively tried to block in 2017 on the grounds that its depiction of religious deities was something of a mockery to its multicultural people. So, of course, it was inundated with positive reviews on Steam, which is presumably why we're sat here in 2019 with a port on Nintendo Switch. The end result is a 2D fighting game with iffy controls, low-res graphics and a roster that’s either going to cause offence or make you laugh at its sheer stupidity. Or maybe both.
Fight of Gods doesn’t just let you fight as some of history’s most notable gods and goddesses (such as Odin, Athena and Anubis – amongst others), but also some figures from other more enduring poly/monotheistic religions. It’s a game that lets you fight as Jesus (yes, that Jesus), complete with the remnants of his cross strapped to his wrists, a belt of thorns and such moves as the ‘Punishment Fist’. It’s a game that lets you throw down with Buddha, Moses, Guan Gong (a Chinese deity based on a general from the Three Kingdoms era), Amaterasu (the Japanese goddess of the sun, not the wolf from Okami) and more.
It’s effectively the crossover to beat all crossovers. Who cares about Batman fighting Sub-Zero when you can watch Zeus electrifying Santa to death? That's right – even Jolly Old Saint Nick gets a slot on this roster. So yes, it’s very silly and not trying to take itself too seriously, but the questionable choice of fighters might have been a little easier to stomach had the core mechanics beneath them been tight, robust and rewarding. Sadly, Fight of Gods plays as bad as its sub-par, mobile-level graphics look.
Despite a handful of decently designed character models, the mechanics themselves simply don’t hold up. Inputs are slow and prone to lag even in single-player/local play, and transition animations between frames never ever feel natural. Character models are sluggish to move, and winning a match is less about stringing together coherent combos than it is about simply mashing the buttons on the Joy-Con and hoping for the best. Even pulling off each fighter’s unique special move feels pointless, as most are easy to block or avoid. There’s so little nuance on display here it’s like the developers behind Fight of Gods had heard of fighting games but had never actually played one as a frame of reference.
Developer Digital Crafter took the time to give Sif, the Norse Goddess of Fertility, breast physics that imbue her chest with so much unworldly kinetic movement even the cast of Dead or Alive would likely want to cover their modesty in shame, yet it failed to build any sense of fluidity into its combat model. Even the smallest and lithest of characters move and jump as if the framerate has just plummeted, making every match an exercise in glacial movement. In some ways it’s a blessing there’s no support for online play, because no one would leave a winner.
Aesthetically, Fight of Gods doesn’t do much better. The audio design is atrocious, with everything from the basic and forgettable soundtrack to the voice-over (which was presumably recorded inside a dustbin with a microphone made of wet tissue) failing to inspire. Even skipping through pre-fight intros will still see the audio continue to play as the fight itself begins. And as for the announcer – a key component to a fighting game – sounds like it was quite literally phoned in. If anything, it’s in keeping with the game’s doggedly consistent lack of quality.
The same can be said of the visuals. Some of those aforementioned character models are nicely modelled – and no, we’re not including Jesus and his holy six pack – but the graphics themselves are a downright mess. Consistently pixelated and prone to slow-down, Fight of Gods looks like something from the GameCube era that somehow managed to sneak onto a modern console with seemingly no contemporary improvements.
Somebody, somewhere, thought we needed an answer to the question of ‘Could Santa take Jesus in a fight?’. We didn’t, and we still don’t. With such a wealth of fighting games on Nintendo Switch – and with a port of Mortal Kombat 11 on the horizon – a cheap and poorly executed example such as this simply doesn't make the cut. Even without its questionable choice of characters, you’re much better off spending your money on one of the many other 2D fighters available on Switch.
Jesus vs Santa was done years ago by the Trey Parker and Matt Stone, before they were the poeple who did south park.
a couple of good laugh with my buddies, on steam. Might double dip
2 out of 10? Damn, that's bad.
Anyone else here for the phrase "unworldly kinetic movement"?
No? No? Anyone?
Truly a game deserving of a physical release, no?
With holy bible reversible cover!
Making fun of religion in a blanket manner, so everyone can feel equally offended, is always good, but it's a huge shame so little effort was put into making this an actually playable game.
It is pretty badass that Jesus fights with broken parts of the cross he was crucified on that are attached by ****ing NAILS. This game looks like it honestly might be worth it for the novelty alone.
AMAZING. I want to buy this just to play on Sundays when the fam goes off to church
There was fighter on Wii U that was similar to this and equally as terrible. I forget the name of it. I'm sure you fought with God's and Icons.
Well, at least Muhammad isn’t in it. That would not go down well.
This is a disgrace to gaming! A mockery of people's faith all around the world that manages to be insulting to everyone.
Nintendo should never have allowed something like this onto their eshop. It's racist and demeaning. It is the absolute bottom of the barrel of troll games. I am aware they were probably going for comments like this one, trying to piss people off with this garbage. But that doesn't by any stretch of the imagination make this okay.
@nessisonett And the cowards who made this abomination don't have the guts to risk angering that particular group.
I better stop typing now. I am on the verge of saying things that will almost certainly violate the rules of this website. If I haven't already.
no need for personal attacks on the devs like that
They knew what they did, thats why there are no islamic gods/deities. They know exactly how far they can go.
Free speech is one thing but this is just tasteless. And seriously, there needs to be some sort of quality control on the eShop. The Nintendo Seal of Quality needs to make a comeback...
So, I think my Bible is missing the pages where Jesus breaks his own cross and goes on a world mission to smash every false god in the face with the cross still attached to his own body to prove he is the most badass and the only one worthy of praise.
I’m not sure this is what they mean when they say “take up your cross”.
Jokes aside, this is a tasteless game.
While some may claim they are mocking all religions equally, they clearly aren’t. They haven’t included “A CERTAIN RELIGION” for obvious reasons.
Also they have put Jesus alongside Moses. Moses who isn’t a god. Santa isn’t a god. Some of the others aren’t gods.
Also most are not part of modern religions, just ancient mythology.
Looks like they have chosen to mock Christianity more than the other religions?
Not really equality is it?
It's a blasphemy! Many of you may not be religious but others are. Please respect other beliefs!
@Carnictis Yes. That Dom's phrasingss are so freaking weird - when it's him reviewing a game, I often find myself skimming through it trying to find lines that are equivalent to "unworldly kinetic motion". There's so many things wrong with that phrase that I literally laighed out loud - and then once more when I saw your comment hahaha.
In any case, this game looks so bad, I might actually get it.
I would have said "inb4 the angry mob of easily offended and humorless virtue signallers descend upon the comments section", but alas, I was too late. I believe in God by the way, and was not in any way offended by the premise. Political correctness is the death knell of creativity.
Please let your bigotery elsewhere. We try to have a serious discussion about à game so bad it becomes good
this game feels super wrong 😓
I'm a hardline atheist, and I can totally admit this is wrong.
the fact that the devs chose not to picture Muhammed kinda indicates they knew the game would be offensive.
the argument of "it makes fun of everyone, so it's okay" is so cowardly, and actually makes it worse.
this game needs to not.
@Heavyarms55 Agree 100% with your comment. Game totally unnecessary and on the top of that the devs only got balls to provoke hand picked beliefs.
Please accepts blasphemy, by the way
Outrage aside, I’m shocked how far Nintendo has come, from heavily censoring the tiniest hint of religious references from the likes of Castlefania in the NES era, to allowing this game into the eshop.
Wow … this game does a good job at pissing off religious people.
However I, probably, do not understand anything about his since I am not offended by many things. As long as it does NOT harm my loves ones I am OK with it.
People forget to live when they focus on offensive things and get triggered to the point of going to therapy.
@Heavyarms55 oh my freaking god .... you call yourself a religious person but you’re intolerant as all hell.
Ohh and by the way, atheist don’t spit on anyone’s faith .... we just don’t give an F about religion. We have more important things to attend to.
You wish for them to lose their jobs and homes?. Wow! Truly an hipocrytical stereotype of a religious guy, practice what you preach. I was not disappointed.
I did liked your comments until now, hope I can block you out of pity.
Edit: Great! There’s an ignore button. Buh-bye you bigot.
@frabbit PLAY WITH THE FAM UPON RETURN!
I’m an atheist. That said, I really enjoyed the review and the reactions this stupid, dumb game’s getting!
Edit: Eep! I’m not singling out any particular side! I’m just saying, “Aw, snap! This game rattled a hornet nest!”
@fafonio erm... you haven’t met atheists that like to spit in the face of every religion?
You don’t sound like a very good atheist to me. Are you sure you’re a real atheist?
He was not saying all atheists are that way, but there are some. And he wasn’t meaning you.
Most religious folk can admit we have some crazy lunatics in our side. It’s time you athiests understand you have some crazy lunatics too.
@Kienda believe me, I have met more intolerant religious people than atheists.
This comment section is proof of that.
Also, I’m not a good atheist? Lol, was there a rule book?
I thought us atheists just don’t believe in gods or deities. I don’t care what you believe in, I have more important stuff to worry in life
I had a good laugh watching the trailer for this one, you could already see the gameplay is garbage.
Now I'm enjoying the comments, no surprise to see zealots and bigots coming out of the woodwork.
I played a game on Newgrounds years ago called Faith Fighter that included Jesus, Buddha, the Abrahamic God, Mohammed, and Xenu, plus Budai, an East Asian version of Buddha. That game was vastly superior to this because it knew it was offensive and knew it wasn't going to be revolutionary.
Commit to being fully offensive or its opposite--otherwise, you'll please nobody, and with a game this terrible, it can't use humor as its saving grace.
@Dom Well you wanted some comments....and now it looks like it's started a religious war on Nintendo Life
I am a Christian and a nintendo super fan. I was saddened to see this on eshop. But, i respect the free speech of nintendo to put it out there. If I want to have free speech to talk about Jesus, I need to respect other's free speech to say what they want.
@Bunkerneath *religious jihad. Speaking of which, hyped that Muhammad being possessed by Satan could be DLC.
@fafonio sorry, that was meant as a joke.
In Christian circles we have people saying “are you sure you’re a real Christian”? Because you think differently to them or you drink beer or whatever.
I was just trying to point out that both sides have their extremists.
I know you say you don’t care about religion, but your reactions seem to show otherwise. Unfortunately, I think most people who hate Christianity (for example) have been hurt by it, or at least, by people who profess to practice it. And that is sad.
@dugan Only if more religious people were thinking like you …
Unfortunately this could never happen.
The same is with people defending their favourite sports team or, come to think of it, everything.
As hardcore atheist I love having conversations with believers about anything but as soon as something triggers them it turns ugly
@dugan Best comment on here. If I find a game offensive, you know what I do? I don't buy it.
@fafonio That is weird. When people ask me if I am a believer and I say no then they ask me what horribly wrong has happened in my life.
Yes it is funny because most religious people I know had accidents and near death experience and that is why they believe. Because they think something divine helped them to survive.
Funny stuff right there.
@Kienda nah, don’t worry. I understood that as a joke.
And no. What I don’t like is intolerance or wishing harm to others, or hypocrisy.
I thought religious people preach compassion, tolerance, etc. etc. That’s why I got mad about his comment.
I mean, come on, it’s just a game. Nothing is going to change. Is it tasteless? Sure! Is it a bad game? Sure. Is it funny? Maybe not for you. But then again, don’t like it? Don’t buy it.
But wishing harm upon them doesn’t make you different from, that’s right ... Islamic extremists.
@Heavyarms55 Erm, excuse me, correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see anything racist in the article or the screenshots given. Despite popular belief, no religion is a race.
I also don't see the issue. SMITE used gods and godesses, nobody ever really seemed to care about that...Ahhh, wait, sorry, that doesn't count because Zeus, Sun Wukong and Isis aren't real, but Jesus and Buddha are totally legit...
Actually, there are Hindu gods in SMITE. People only seem to care when it's Jesus or image removed.
@fafonio @dugan it’s that saying, “I don’t agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.
@fafonio I agree. No one should wish harm on others because they think differently.
Unfortunately, some religions actually teach that way. Other religions don’t teach that but their followers act that way. So it is understandable that people dismiss religion in general.
Personally, that is the reason I am not part of an organised religion. But I have a faith in God.
I find it rather interesting how my desire to play a game correlates nicely with how close the score gets to either end of the spectrum. Having watched just a few minutes of gameplay, it can only be compared to watching somebody playing a heavily modded Virtua Fighter, through old-school CCTV footage. Awful beyond comprehension. And because of that, I quite simply need to have a go immediately.
@Zuljaras actually I was educated as a catholic as a child. I guess as I grew up I thought that there are so much stuff in life other than to keep worrying about something that is so trivial.
Now, as near death experiences? I haven’t heard before that people turn religious because of that. But I wouldn’t be surprised.
LOL, the angry comments
@Kienda maybe you should consider yourself as an spiritual person, not a religious person.
Two different things.
Anyway, we agree on the same basic plot. It’s totally moronic to wish harm upon others for not believing in your deity of choice. I mean, every Christian goes against the teachings of Islam, and here we have an example of someone doing the exact same thing.
Anyway, off to sleep, it’s been a good conversation. Great day.
@andywitmyer What's wrong with the phrase 'unworldly kinetic motion'? The character's chests move in a manner that is totally unrealistic... it's absolutely spot-on, if you ask me.
Getting deities to duke out is already done to death, with Smite being the prime example. Getting Jesus in was already a staple back in flash games era, I remember a game in which you could have Jesus fight Moses or Eve. It was dumb and edgy for the sake of edge back then as well and was only popular because getting on the nerves of religious people was in vogue 10-15 years ago (remember Harry Potter being called "satanic"? they were ripe for mockery).
On the flipside today I learned that Guang Yu has a cult and is worshiped as a god today. That's pretty neat. I can see why he would be a lot of people's favourite character from the story (he's an all around decent guy, but without getting all high minded like Liu Bei), but that's taking fandom to a new height
@Damo on another note. I love this site’s article’s subtitles. They always crack me up, keeps me going back. Kudos for creativity
This game is awesome and easily a 9. We had so much fun last weekend playing this. Better than Blade Strangers or Blazblue XTB because it has real moves. Just the loading times and the missing onlinemode are annoying, the rest is fantastic: great roster, great combosystem, easytolernhardtomaster mechanics, fast, always funny.
You must be a fanatic Christian or you are not into fighting games if you're not seeing its potential!
Here comes a new challenger : MAsterTroll 😊
@Heavyarms55 I’m pretty lapsed but even I take mild offence at how brazen it is. If it was playful mocking like Binding of Isaac that would be fine but it’s just quite distasteful and pointless.
Enough Nintendo... Lets have some quality control.
I must say, I've debated religion/atheism to death outside of Nintendolife, but did not see the argument coming here haha.
If you're offended, that's well within your rights. Vote with your wallets as always.
@LordVal "Great roster" lol I love this review.
@Carnictis Yes I'm here for it. And the thought of the programmer spending hours on getting the boobs right but letting everything else fall to the wayside made me LOL
I thought this is ripping off the forgettable Nintendo 64 fighter War Gods, but seeing Jesus versus Buddha is something else entirely.
This game sure is offensive.
Jesus fighting with pieces of the cross still nailed to him is pretty bad ass. That being said I would not be upset if Nintendo pulled this off the eshop.
Remember everyone, just because you're offended doesn't mean it's offensive.
This is a little disheartening to see on the eShop, as both a diehard Christian and diehard Nintendo fan. I’m at a loss of words on what to say.
I’ll say this: although I find this incredibly offensive, I’m not gonna make a big stink out of it.
@dugan I’m in the exact same boat as you. A very wise sentiment.
How did it even score 2?!
Fresh off the back of the news that Nintendo are recruiting a manager for NSO, can we please get one or two editors for the eShop too? The amount of money they will be losing by allowing titles like this to surface in "coming soon" instead of highlighting the 100's of high quality indie titles alone is criminal.
@frabbit I just like the game. I'm a big BeatemUp Fan and I was very disappointed about the latest BB and Blade Strangers and the controls. This one here was really afreshing. It's not a SNK or Capcom standard, but it's so much fun to hit Santa with the hand of God of his son!
@SenseiDje all important gods are in. and I don't like big rosters.
If they were going to do a fighting game featuring gods or god-like beings why doesn’t someone make a fighting game of all the rock-hard characters from Warhammer 40k?
Gonna buy this, no matter what.
Saw the screenshots somewhere a week ago and thought this would be lucky to get more than a 2
@Severian I agree, the devs knew this idea would be pushing the envelope of what is acceptable, but with this type of game and the amount of backlash it can cause you kinda have to knock it out the park or just not do it at all.
Weird how they choose to ignore some pretty major faiths/religious groups when making their roster too. I am also surprised Nintendo actually let this game in given how divisive it is.
We all know who WONT be available to play, cough cough.
I don’t know I thought the comments were quite tame considering. Not my thing so I’ll just avoid playing.
Religion: Followers are alive.
Mythology: Followers are dead.
That's the only difference.
People deserve respect, but beliefs don't and should be scrutinized.
Tasteless in the extreme. Seeing the Buddha fight is not just unfunny, it's just not respectfully to anyone, Buddhist or not. Same goes for the others. I'm glad this game is as bad as it's concept.
"Free speech is one thing but this is just tasteless. And seriously, there needs to be some sort of quality control on the eShop. The Nintendo Seal of Quality needs to make a comeback..."
Right here we go again...
The "Seal of Quality" was put on games at a time where in Japan at least there were extremely poorly manufactured pirated carts available for the NES.
Literally all it meant was "this cart has been manufactured by Nintendo" and thus would not cause your console to potentially explode in a dramatic fireball, killing you, your family, and potentially ending life on Earth.
That is ALL it meant.
@nessisonett Yeah they probably don't feel like being harassed explosively or have others drive in their points of contention in a rather fatal method.
@Prizm 'People deserve respect, but beliefs don't and should be scrutinized.'
But part of showing respect to people IS by respecting their believes – even if you don't agree with them (as long as those believes don't harm others that is).
And that still allows for the all important scrutiny you mention.
@Kienda Santa is actually more popular than Jesus, especially at Christmas. In western countries both the theists and non-theists celebrate christmas the same way - presents, santa and nice food.
@brunojenso Actually you don't have to respect anyone's beliefs. I don't respect Sharia law, and I certainly don't respect the homophobia, misogyny and pro-rape and pro-slavery passages in the Christian bible.
@retrofuturism kinda. Not all Christians make a big deal about Santa since putting him at the same level as Jesus says horrible things about the validity of Jesus.
It honestly doesn't look that bad.
@DEADCELL pretty much so.... the gane IS a bad fighting game by today's standard, but I didnt think it was THAT bad (comin' from a person who's played fighting games all their life). it does feel like it belongs in the gamecube era. But c'mon now, what could be better than watching Jesus n Santa throw down 😅?
@Heavyarms55 Do you need a fainting couch? Or perhaps a pillow to scream into?
Its just a tasteless game. Get over it. Too much "offended" people here with your precious beliefs.
If the price is according to the quality, it can be actually fun for playing once.
@retrofuturism Well it could be true that in Western culture Santa may more popular, or at least, as popular as Jesus.
Worldwide I would think Jesus would be more popular. And typically speaking I think half the world doesn’t celebrate Christmas at all.
Either way, it still doesn’t make Santa a god.
Kylo Ren: Let this comment thread die
Or something like that
@retrofuturism Yes, the Bible is anti-homosexual or at least against the lifestyle which is a valid opinion (not "homophobic," as it has nothing to do with fear of the practice), and I can see arguments for misogyny, but it is not pro-rape or pro-slavery. It happened in the Bible all the time as a matter of history, but they're always portrayed in a negative light. For example, King David basically lost everything after essentially raping Bathsheba and then conspiring to murder her husband and forcing her to become one of his wives.
It's... sort of refreshing to see a controversy these days that doesn't boil down to the millionth example of "righties vs. snowflakes/feminism/etc."
It's too bad this is a rubbish game, as it might have been fun to play with people willing to laugh at their own beliefs a bit (an increasing rarity, unfortunately).
I don't blame them for not including Mohammed. Pretty sure the developers don't want to wake up one morning with their heads separated from their bodies.
@Kienda You're forgetting that in many Eastern countries like Japan, Christmas and Santa are still celebrated by a large portion of the population, while a very small portion of them are Christian. I think that makes Santa overall more popular than Jesus on a worldwide level, but I agree that it still doesn't mean Santa belongs in a battle of Gods and other important religious figures.
But isn't the wolf in "Okami" THE Amaterasu in cursed form?
@Medic_alert yes very nice way to put it. And again not if those views and believes are clearly extreme and/or harmful to others.
People seem to be missing the fact that Islam doesn't really have any culturally widespread images of their prophet or god, so in order to include them, the game creators would need to make heavily exaggerated caricatures, which is not the case with other characters. Even Jesus, compared to his depictions in some other popular media, is relatively tame.
@retrofuturism 'Actually you don't have to respect anyone's beliefs'
I didn't say you did have to, and as often happens you’ve gone straight to extreme examples that no sane person would respect - religious or not.
So no, I didn’t say you HAVE to respect people’s (non-extreme) believes, but that is one way to... yah know, respect them. Yes, you have every right to be disrespectful if you wish – that's your freedom. Where reasonably possible though, such as when a person's believes do not hurt others, I choose to respect their views. You can do what you like.
I find it funny that we can all accept Greek gods in video games depicted in all manners, but when Christian or Catholic faith is mentioned people lose their minds. The only reason you are upset seeing Jesus in a video game, and not Zeus is because the Greek gods fell out of favor.
The Greek gods were worshiped in full until Rome was converted to Christianity for purely political reasons. If Constantine the Great had not come along, this would not even be a discussion.
I can't believe people still believe this junk is true.
This looks hilarious
@itslukec Believe what junk is true?
Cmon guys, this is a once in a life time chance that you could see Jesus vs. Buddha.
Hard pass. I hold no reverence for this stuff, but I'm certainly not wasting money on a garbage game.
i'll stick with Soulcailbur VI and MUGEN for now.
@itslukec In general I’d agree. But don’t forget that many of the Greek gods we’re always presented in war-like warrior aspects. Jesus and the Buddha are two particular examples amongst others that are known for their completely non-violent aspect and lifestyles. That’s an important distinction.
Jesus can finally beat the crap out of that fat tub of **** that took over his Birthday! If this goes on a really good sale I might just get it.
Just played the game. I don't like it at all. And I love fighting games. It's unfinished. Rushed and simple game. They could've used some story mode or something. Only arcade and versus mode. Snoozefest
Both this game and the comment section are a mess...
@BulbasaurusRex Exodus 20 gives advice on beating slaves, Jesus commanded slaves to love their masters. He never condoned it. Theists such as yourself can excuse anything. You earn gold in the mental gymnastics category
@Kalmaro Yeah but there is no proof that Jesus existed... just like Santa. You may as well stick with the most fun option and the majority of kids would be more excited about meeting santa than JC
@retrofuturism Actually the consensus is that he did exist. Whether he did all the other things claimed is what tends to divide people.
This is so bad that it couldn't possibly offend me as much as it makes me laugh.
So I reloaded this page 4 times and the screen shots change each time. Wondering if that’s by design or not. Not sure I like it. I was trying to go back and see the roster. I know I saw it the first time thru the article, but now I get dif screenshots each time.
@Heavyarms55 Man I thought with a Bowsette icon you'd have better of a sense of humor and playfulness than that.
@Claytonbob It's as if the gods are meddling with it. Damn Zeus.
I can’t honestly understand why people believe in this Jesus stuff. It’s not like he gives people hope or anything.
@retrofuturism You truly believe that Jesus is not a historical figure? Mind you, not talking about miracles, just that he was a historical figure.
Are you sure that's the position you want to take?
@nkarafo No we won't religion is a scam and should always be allowed to made fun of or criticized.
@pblive It is believed but not proven to the 100%, very different things.
So guys... any tier list ??!
@Kienda Well we in scandinavia don't celebrate jesus we celebrate the winter solstice, the sun coming back.
@Heavyarms55 Oh really now? Thanks to christianity and the christian churches in Scandinavia burning and destroying artifacts from the viking age we know next to nothing about those periods. So you can go F yourself with your "I am so offended over nothing" lkjhgfghjk.Religion should never be protected from being made fun of.
@TAndvig are you ok. Look I have different beliefs but let’s try to be civil
@TAndvig There are as many historical documents and references from non-religious sources of the time (including those complaining about him) as there are for other historical figures.
2/10 on Nintendo Life? That's the equivalent of -12/10 anywhere else
@tc-senzei it's probably because there isn't a depiction of Allah for them to use, the true crime is the lack of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Bill Nye the Science Guy as an atheist rep.
I'm a practicing agnostic, so it's no surprise that I struggle to believe this game is real!
"You might remember this as the game that the Malaysian government effectively tried to block in 2017"
If they did succeed in blocking it, then I'd say that they did more than effectively "try"...
And mentioning that it looks like a GameCube beat em up has suddenly found its way onto the Switch as a bad thing is a rather sad and negative jab at that console, seeing as there are plenty of good to great beat em ups on the GameCube, that still hold up to this day, such as Soul Calibur, Bloody Roar Primal Fury, Naruto Clash of Ninja, the Def Jam games, the Mortal Kombat games, and even the Dragon Ball Z games.
As far as the comments section goes:
I'll never understand so many people being offended over other people not believing or "respecting" their imaginary beings.
I think some people got it right, and I would agree with people like @Prizm, @itslukec and @retrofuturism that the difference between religion and mythology is that at some point in time/history, we decided that the old gods that we used to respect, and to some extent even FAR more than the current ones, were no longer relevant/useful, and as such, we (or rather the powers that governed us) chose to worship new ones.
But once you know why gods were invented in the first place, no single religion makes sense or should be able to hold up to modern scrutiny, much less have any place in today's society.
(and besides that, I myself have seen and experienced too much sorrow and hardship to even remotely come close to believing in whatever kind of deity or all powerful (and supposedly benevolent) being that watches over people, while continually allowing all this misery to happen all over the world)
And yet it persists, sadly enough, along with all of the misery and short-sightedness that often comes with it, such as centuries of enslavement, burning, torturing and slaughtering "infidels", "heathens" and people believing something other than what their oppressor told them to believe in...
I've seen a couple of positive and hope inspiring comments from believers, which I can respect, but unfortunately, those can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
On a side note: I actually do believe Jesus existed, as there are enough documents from various sides to support that notion, but I only believe in factual stuff, not that he was some kind of miracle worker or anything, nor do I believe people being changed into pillars of salt, seas being parted, the flood being a Christian thing, and the world instantly springing into existence and so on.
As far as respect goes: I can only respect people that earn respect, by acting in an open minded manner and not trying to convert and/or heal or "help" people by forcing their beliefs upon them.
So, in short: believe what you want or need to believe, but don't bother me with it, if I don't share your beliefs. Then, and only then, can there be some form of mutual respect.
No offense meant, people. Just my own opinion on the matter.
@Claytonbob The picture change is by design. I've already had that discussion with one of the NLife crew once. With every page refresh/re-visit, the pictures change, simply to be able to show more pictures of a game in a single article, without spamming the entire page with dozens of screenshots at once.
But it only has so many varying cycles, so eventually, the picture that you were looking for, will appear again.
So getting this!
@GJR78 if anything, atheists would go with Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens.
@ThanosReXXX Well the reason people are getting upset is because they believe they are correct, just like you believe you are right.
I'm not one to get offended when someone tells me God isn't real, largely because I see so much evidence for God that I don't see it worth getting upset over.
Tournament of Legends from High Voltage comes to mind.
Also, Sif is the Norse goddess of harvest, rather than fertility as such. She is however said to be more beautiful than even Freya, the goddess of love, so there's that. Believe it or not, but up here we got a dude in charge of fertility, that honor falling on Freya's hunky brother, Freyr.
@Kalmaro No offense, but you misunderstood me. I do not think I'm right, so it's not so much about anyone being right or wrong, I just don't believe in a god, or gods, and as such, I can't understand people fighting over it/them. (seeing as there are different, and conflicting religions)
But having said that, there actually IS a large amount of factuality in the history of how man as a species came to believe in, and started to revere deities (which ultimately turned into monotheism), and that cannot be denied, no matter on which side of the argument you are.
@ThanosReXXX thanks for making sense, really.
@Kienda well, Christianity had never been on par with other religions, has it? It’s destroyed half of the world in the process of expanding, and is one of the most common religions in the world, so it only feels right that it earns this much representation/mockery.
@ThanosReXXX You yourself said that one of the reasons you can't even begin to believe in God is because of the hardships going on.
Would I be wrong in saying that part of the reason you don't believe in good is because there so much in the world that is wrong?
@Kalmaro Richard Dawkins was my second choice but Bill Nye has more moveset potential.
@clvr You're welcome.
I do hope that the arguments won't get too heated, because it should be perfectly fine for both sides to think or believe what they want to believe, as long as neither side wants to go to war for it.
@Kalmaro I think you mean God, instead of good?
Either way, I'm smart enough to understand that people themselves have the choice to do things, but certain, shall we say collateral damage, in the form of innocent victims, people dying WAY before their time, gentle/good people suffering fates that they don't deserve, and all those kinds of things make it kinda hard for me personally, to be able to trust in some higher power, yes.
I believe in nature, and the natural machinations of the universe and that there is no such thing as coincidence, meaning that things just happen, because they do, no matter how sad or horrible they sometimes are, but not because some being had a hand in it.
PLEASE say the prophet Muhammad is playable!?
@ThanosReXXX I think that's a fair stand to make, that with so much going wrong it's hard to imagine a higher power being involved. However, that would imply that there is a way things are supposed to be in the first place. That's a dangerous road to go down.
@KingSandyRavage I think they value their lives too much for that.
@CharlieSmile I’m not an atheist, but I respect your beliefs. I’m not against this game or anything it just sounds like it’s not very good. But your words are genuinely kind
Quick note. The wolf from Okami IS the sun goddess. Hence the punny name of the game and all the dialogue regarding the wolf being the sun goddess.
Anyway I wish mythology wasn’t such a touchy subject as the ancient humans had amazing imaginations. So much potential for great video games but everybody gets up in arms about imaginary friends on steroids. (Yet many of these same people getting offended are horrible to their fellow human being. This is such a backwards planet. )
@Kalmaro No, not really. Like a certain comedian once said:
"only three things in life are certain: birth, death and taxes."
But all joking aside, I think that what it means to many of us non-believers, is that it's a way to accept that certain things will happen, that we just don't have any control over, regardless of the fact that we want them to or not.
And, in the absence of any religious believe, that would be a logical conclusion for that specific part of the world's population.
By the way: I appreciate the manner in which you're willing and able to discuss this with me.
You're appearing to be one of the types of people that I mentioned earlier, which I am able to respect. Opposing views don't always have to mean all out war or heated arguments, so glad to be able to add another sane person to that list.
@Kalmaro then he forfeits by default and loses the battle for who’s god is actually real..... deitality!!!!
Agree with your last statement there @ThanosReXXX Disagreements need not lead to all out war - especially on a Nintendo fan site
@ThanosReXXX Likewise! Much easier to get ideas across without all the cursing and whatnot.
I think I can see where you're coming from. Both atheists and theist should both agree that there are things just out of their hands so I don't see any conflict there. I guess the difference just starts at if there is anyone or thing in control in the first place.
@KingSandyRavage pff hahaha.
This is neither racist nor demeaning. I find that many religions tend to fuel bigotry and hate. All are eminently mockable.
Instead of Blasphemy-em-up they should have said Blas(phemy)Blue.
$13 to have something to offend every religious nut I meet? Day 1 purchase.
Lot of people offended by this? Seriously? Are we living in 2019 and still there is people that believe in fairy tales like every religion?
All these hyper offended people on this thread make me want to piss away money on this game to just let it chill in my backlog 😂
Oooooffff, this thread really got the pitchforks out.
It's weirdly refreshing in some deranged way. Cause as of late all I ever see is Christian bashing as the new cool thing cause it often offends the greater majority of an opposing political side. Even before I left FB many years ago people were cheering on desecration of churches cause of their popularized perceptions that are rather... Unsavory. It's weird seeing religious discussion once more.
I always railed against religion, grew up catholic myself with some rather deranged family members that I eventually became agnostic to it all. Live more on the "Compassion and Evidence" sort of mentality.
That all being said, this game is horribly tactless. You can clearly tell what they were doing cause they knew what religions were "okay" to take stabs at (then again, media does replicate this often too). Though my darker side would have loved to get this for the humor of its novelty, there is so many other fighting games that are likely to pull more of it along with some solid competition on the Switch as it is. SNK Heroines is likely a prime candidate to this.
Makes me wonder if this little offense is going to bleed into Smite when it releases.
The thing that gets me about this game is it seems to take itself so seriously. You'd think a fighting game with Jesus, Moses and Santa Claus could laugh at itself a bit, but nope.
Now i must absolutely get this game, i dont think you reviewed it properly because of obvious reasons.
"let he without sin kick the first butt"
Agnostic is what i am, that said im going to wait untill it goes on sale for dirt cheap for some good laughs if it is capable of giving me so
@DarkLloyd I wouldn't give these developers a dime, personally. It's a funny idea, but watch a couple videos and you've seen everything this has to offer. Bad game is bad.
@Donald_M thats why i added in an edit to my comment about it being on sale lol
Protestant reporting in. I could almost forgive this non-shellfish-eating game if it had the balls to include Muhammad. If you're going to include the real life figure of Jesus Christ Himself squaring off against Santa Claus, you may as well get the 'religion of peace' in on the action.
Atheists could use some love as well, perhaps a little Richard Dawkins or Stephen Hawking will help them express how militantly unfaithful they feel. Hawking's Up-B could be a wheelchair spin attack like Link's in Smash Bros, complete with a little robotic "Hyaah!" vocalized by Microsoft Sam. Dawkin's defeat pose could have him facing away from the winner while demanding affirmative evidence of their existence.
There is a lot of ignorance and arrogance on display here from people who seem to leap at the opportunity to trash people of faith or faith generally. I don't recall anybody slinging mud at atheists, and if one's subjective notion of morality leads them to behave in such an abrasive manner, then I think that they ought to take a good hard look at what it means to be good, likewise to those who succumb to anger (rather than patience, as religions so often preach) over their perception of what constitutes objective morality. It is disheartening, demoralising, and frankly embarrassing to see the insensitivity and sheer ugliness that simmers beneath the surface of our otherwise (seemingly) friendly and good-spirited community.
And for those of you who hate Muslims, you can rejoice in knowing that there is plenty here that is offensive to Muslims, including the depiction of Jesus [pbuh] (who we believe to be the Messiah, and a prophet; the key distinction being that we do not attribute divinity to him; and he is mentioned more frequently in the Qur'an than Muhammad [pbuh], and Moses [pbuh], who is mentioned more than any other prophet in the Qur'an), and any other prophets in history who may be depicted in this game (I don't know who exactly is in the roster). If the game still isn't blasphemous enough to your liking, then I suggest that you reassess your priorities in life, because if you believe that this realm is the be all and end all of existence, then you ought to realise that you are wasting your time speaking of something that you claim to not even believe in. You're YOLOing wrong, friends.
My, Nintendo has come a long way from giving the go-ahead to The Binding of Isaac.
Now, I'm not one to kick up a stink about this sort of thing. South Park and others have done a hell of a lot worse over the years. We are beings that possess free will after all, and we can exercise our ability to refrain from consuming potentially offensive material. It doesn't concern me that "offensive" material exists per se, nor do I take it to heart (though I admit that I found such material profoundly disturbing/offensive as a child), but I do find it disheartening to see how ill-mannered and disrespectful people are being toward one another over something that is a personal matter, and nobody else's business.
And for the record, I consider Christians and Jews to be my brothers and sisters in faith, regardless of whether or not they perceive me in kind, and everybody else is by extension my brother and sister in humanity, regardless of whether or not they perceive me in kind. If you perceive me to be your enemy, then that is your prerogative, but you don't speak for me.
And for God's sake, stick to talking about the game in question. I thought there were rules here (and in polite society) about discussing sex, politics, and/or religion.
@Silly_G peace be with you - from a Christian
@Aslanmagic : Peace be upon you.
I'll admit, I don't have a problem with some of the roster. I can't see too many people being offended by the depiction of Anubis or Odin, since I don't think they have many modern worshipers. Heck, you can make that battle happen in Scribblenauts.
I am not a bigot and intolerant for being upset by this game. If this community has decided that this sort of vile thing is okay but those of us insulted by it are wrong and should meekly take the insult, if we are not allowed to talk back or denounce something outrageous... then I have horribly misjudged this website and community!
Mods, if that is the case, own up to it and ban me!
Let me be clear: I'd be just as upset if a game were making a mockery of any religion like this, or of Atheism too.
@Kalmaro Haha, yeah, it is. I suppose, that for me, it is a "thing" that's in control, as in the universe, and it's own, unique machinations.
But open discussion without knifes out is always fine by me. I've even done my fair share of philosophizing about it, amongst friends.
And I'll have you know that some of my best and longtime friends are Christians, and although I don't see them all too often anymore, every time I do, we have dinner and drinks together, and generally have a good time, but since we know each other quite well, we also tend to not discuss these specific topics too much, at least; not too heavily anyway.
Basically, what I mean to say by that, is that it is my personal example of how these two worlds/opinions/views can live together perfectly fine, without it ruining the relationship/friendship.
@Silly_G From an atheist: You're making so much sense, I wish all religious people were like that...
@OorWullie Are you sure you have a Wii U game in mind?
I can't think of any religion-based fighting game on the Wii U, unless it's an indie title.
On the Wii there was Tournament of Legends, but that was only based upon Greek and Roman gods, and it wasn't really that bad, actually. And I'm not even ashamed to say that I own that game...
@Heavyarms55 : Those labelling you as a bigot have perverted the word beyond all meaning, and are only highlighting their own bigotry via their blind hatred toward people of faith.
I only ever seem to hear the word being used people with an extremely narrow outlook on things, which by definition makes them bigots. For many, it seems that flinging poo (insults) like a less intelligent life form is easier than having a carefully articulated conversation.
@ThanosReXXX One of my best buds was Wiccan, so we had our own differences there too. Didn't make him less fun to hang with.
I should text him and see how he's doing.
@Kalmaro Yeah, you should, especially if it is a good friend. Shouldn't let that go to waste. You kinda did surprise me with that one, though. Some more traditional religious people might consider Wiccans to be even more offensive than non-believers.
On the other hand, I shouldn't be THAT surprised, seeing as you come across as quite open minded.
@ThanosReXXX Hard to convert people if you're beating them over the head. Some people like it like that but that's not really my steal.
When's the last time anyone's had their mind changed during a shouting match? ;P
@Kalmaro Yeah, it has definitely become harder to convert people, ever since torture and so on has become kinda frowned upon by the general public...
@ThanosReXXX Right? Waterboarding isn't even that bad!
@Kalmaro Ha, I'm originally from California, and that comment made my inner surfer dude go all like: "Waterboarding? That's like some new type of surfing, right?"
@ThanosReXXX Haha, that's another can of worms. There's still debate on how bad it actually is and if it's humane to use.
@Kalmaro All joking aside, I think I'm gonna go with it being bad, and damaging as well, both physically and psychologically. I detest any form of torture or inflicting needless pain on any other living being, whether that be a human or an animal.
Hmm. I do not believe in a God, but neither do I consider myself an atheist. Being an atheist seems a contradiction - having a belief system built around opposing something you don't believe in.
I'd rather think - I'm open minded, so prove it to me, and until then I'll choose to be sceptical.
It is a fact that the Bible has been rewritten several times to suit the needs of the influential and powerful of those times, and as such it shouldn't be taken as gospel.
But... if someone has a faith, if that helps them in life, then let them have their personal belief system without scorn, as long as they aren't pushing a 'one twue way' on others.
They should only commit to something this blasphemous and controversial if they have something to say. They apparently do not. What’s the point of using your freedom of expression if you have nothing to express?
My two cents. If you find something offensive, then don't purchase it, and maybe don't waste your time and energy commenting upon it.
For me, as a staunch atheist, I know gods aren't real with the same certainty that the religious believe their god of choice is real. But live and let live - I don't try to convert anyone to my beliefs, and I appreciate the same consideration given to me. And as an atheist, I don't care which fictional character is fighting another fictional character.
But I'll not purchase this particular game as it sounds like it stinks, and I'm not into fighting in general.
@Preposterous Except they didn’t go after everyone... Where’s Mohamed? ...Oh yeah, if you piss those crazies off they shoot you and your friends. ...This game only pics on safe targets, under the guise of being cheeky.
@Masurao You are not incorrect. Race =/= Religion. I used the term racism colloquially because it is discrimination against defined groups of people. "Discriminatory" would probably be a better word choice.
However my points still stand and I am not wrong. This game IS discriminatory and demeaning, not only against specific groups, but against the very idea of religion in general. And it is clearly calculated. The inclusion of Santa is clearly calling all religion false, for example.
Further it is not a parody or a satire, but a mockery. Parody or satire are done comedy and to point out issues in the topics they address. This does not do that. It is simply insulting.
So, it’s pretty safe to assume that Fight of Gods has better gameplay than Code of Princess?
"There’s so little nuance on display here it’s like the developers behind Fight of Gods had heard of fighting games but had never actually played one as a frame of reference."
Those words would be a very reasonable reaction to playing the first Mortal Kombat, and look at it now!
I mean MK gameplay still is worst-in-genre a valley away from the rest, but look at its downright amazing production values.
Point being even a start like Fight of Gods could potentially go somewhere in the end.
(As for the outraged people, where were you when SMITE released?
...oh nevermind, people already discussed this)
Only just remembered about this poster:
Edit: Hopefully people see the relevance to the picture and the topic
NEED! Might wait for a PS4 version tho for improved performance (hopefully)
I dunno, I mean I count myself as a Christian but I'm not offended. Lifes about having a laugh now and again and I gotta be honest the trailer did make me chuckle when jesus broke off the cross.
But maybe they could have used parody's instead
Holy moly where was this game my entire life. Looks A+. I will try to main jesus.
@ThanosReXXX I think I've got mixed up somehow. I've had a good look for but can't find any articles, let alone a review for it. It's bothering me though as I definitely recall reading an article on here a good while back about a religious fighting game. In my search I could only find Steel Rivals / Steel Lords as terrible Wii U Eshop fighting games and neither of those are religious.
@OorWullie I've been racking my brain as well, but ultimately,
all I could come up with, is Tournament of Legends.
Wait a second. So you can have a game that depicts Jesus fighting Santa and no one will protest and say it's "Christophobic", hateful and disrespectful, but put Muhammad in it and suddenly it's "islamophobic". Proves the double standard in society. We all know this game wouldn't exist if it had Muhammad in it.
Mocking Christianity = Totally okay and cool.
Mocking Islam = Bigoted and hateful.
So you can't have Jesus vs Muhammed in this game??
That's a hard pass from me then.
Muhammad could have been a great character. One of his abilitys could have been to call his 9 year old wife Aisha to his side for support.
"What's wrong with the phrase 'unworldly kinetic motion'?"
@Damo It's just redundant, and in my opinion, a rather peculiar turn of phrase - but, I don't hate it or anything 😂
Lot's of people failing to see the difference between mocking religion (valid - all ideology should be open to critism) and mocking religious people (not okay). That said, this game looks so ridiculous, it seems to be mocking itself rather than making any kind of statement against religion. I think the concept seems pretty fun, shame the game sucks. Dawkins riding the Flying Spaghetti Monster as DLC please.
This is actually considered offensive? I mean, don't get me wrong, I can definitely see how the game's QUALITY can be offensive, but it's actual content? C'mon guys. C'mon.
As for those calling out the "double standard" for not including figures from the Islamic faith, I understand what you're saying, and obviously the devs didn't have the guts. However, I think it does make sense to point out that the visual depiction of Muhammed is a very contentious issue, and is oftentimes not accepted at all, with even religious scholars having strong opinions on it. There is however, a rich tradition of visually depicting most of the other figures in their respective culture, in religious art of otherwise.
Jesus even has the uncanny ability to appear on toast and masses of fungus! Really, I find it hard to even see what's wrong with Mr Jesus' depiction here? He's badass, similar to how he's depicted in religious art and super sexy. Playing this game might even give you the sudden urge to start praising him methinks!
So what exactly is wrong with him being depicted here? Is there a common consensus that Jesus should not be depicted in any way? Obviously not. Should he not appear in video games? If so, what about the various religious videogames/edutainment he appears in? Should he not be depicted in any form of media, period? Oh boy, I think we're going to have to start burning a LOT of books, movies, comics, etc. Should he not be depicted in a derogatory way? I don't know, but he looks pretty awesome here! Even if I were to be an overtly considerate person and wanted to make sure not a single person of the faith is offended, where can I find the big fat manual that describes precisely how I should or should not depict Jesus? Sure, I could give the pope a call, but he only represents a portion of the Christian faith. So what's a developer of mediocre video games to do?
In other words: nothing to see here, let's all move along.
P.S.: I go through life trying to be considerate and I try to make sure I don't needlessly offend people. I imagine some might even accuse me of being too politically correct. However, the flip side, I do expect people to try not to get their panties in a twist for no reason either.
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