Many companies have tried to capitalise on the problem of drifting Joy-Con sticks, and the usual tactic is to rely on Hall Effect technology, which uses magnets to get around the issue of wearing components. CRKD is the latest to tout a drift-free experience using this technology by way of the Nitro Deck, a hunk of plastic you slide your Switch console into, rather than controllers you slap on its sides.
It features all the face buttons, shoulder buttons, sticks, and whatnot that you’d need, plus a few extra ‘paddle’ buttons on the back that can be mapped to any other button on the controller should you wish. A super great feature for sure, but not really our thing. However, when we tried to follow the instructions provided with the device to clear the programming entirely, it just refused to work. A quick look on the company’s support page helped provide correct guidelines, but if you’re providing printed instructions at all, they should at least be accurate.
The controller feels quite comfortable in your hands, and the build quality is fairly good. It feels curiously light without the console in there, but there’s clearly a balancing act between build quality and weight that CRKD has attempted to tackle, and once the console’s in place it feels as it should. You don’t want to be lugging a great chunky monkey around now, do you? Speaking of which, the way it locks the console in is simple and quite ingenious. Two sprung plastic tabs lock into the rails of the sides of the console once it’s fully inserted, and prevent it from being removed unless a latch is depressed on the back of the unit. This gives it a cosy, snug fit whilst also being easy to slip in – and largely painless to slip out – whether you’ve got an OLED or an original form factor console. Top marks.
What doesn't get ‘top marks’ is the kickstand. It’s better than the OG Switch's by some margin, but frankly, that bar is already pretty flipping low. It’s unusually short in order to make space for the latch we mentioned above, meaning the result is a kickstand that works, but has few usable positions. This kickstand’s hinge also blocks a final screw on the back, making non-destructive disassembly seemingly unlikely, which is a shame, and limits the user’s options should something go wrong later down the line.
Despite all that, the Nitro Deck is actually quite nice to use; the buttons are nice and responsive, the grip is solid for larger hands, and the full-sized sticks are a welcome relief compared to those found on the Joy-Con. Well, the left stick is welcome at least.
Unfortunately, the right stick is in an utterly baffling position considering the available space on the Nitro Deck. When we rested our hands in a neutral position with our right thumb on the face buttons, we found ourselves almost touching the right stick. Thankfully we had just enough clearance to prevent any accidental inputs, but it’s honestly weirdly close. Things get a lot worse when you need to use that stick though, and if we’re honest it’s an awful experience ergonomically. For any game that required constant use of the right stick such as a shooter, we found ourselves bending our wrist around at a tremendously squiffy angle in order to get the best grip because of how far to the right (and low down) the stick is.
There’s enough real estate that it could easily be at the very least a few millimetres to the left for greater comfort (admittedly at the cost of symmetry), but instead, it’s almost comically uncomfortable to use, even for short periods. It’s a crying shame, because for games that don’t require the right stick, it’s really a very enjoyable method of control, but this is sadly a real deal-breaker. We even gave this to gaming friends and family to make sure it wasn’t just our mitts being an issue, but they all agreed that it was awkward at best. If we say that we’d rather use a pair of standard Joy-Con to play DOOM Eternal, that should hopefully make our point disappointingly clear.
Whilst we’re on the subject of sticks, we didn’t doubt the claims of this manufacturer at all, but with so many companies touting Hall Effect technologies, we decided to devise a test to see if any controller was indeed relying on this more expensive technology, rather than just fibbing for a quick buck. By placing chuffing powerful neodymium magnets near the sticks when powered on, we could indeed interfere with the signal on Hall Effect sticks and wiggle things about a bit, but not typical potentiometer-based sticks found in the likes of the official Pro Controller. With that in mind, the Nitro Deck passed without issue, badly positioned right stick and all. Phew!
If you’ve seen any close-ups of the back of this unit, you might be forgiven for thinking, ‘What the flip are those bits on the back for?’, presumably referring to the ‘input’ and ‘output’ USB-C ports (we hope). The ‘input’ is for charging the console whilst it’s in the Nitro Deck. An obvious and simple solution, but one that works effortlessly. The ‘output’ port is another matter. This is designed so that you can use the Nitro Deck as a wired controller when the console is docked. No, we’re not joking.
We have no issue with this being a feature, but it strikes us as decidedly weird to include a port for a use case that we just can’t see more than a handful of players using. We tried both ports in case there was some sort of passthrough so that the console could be docked whilst in the grip, but nothing we tried came close to working. We could speculate that this port originally had more uses, but as it stands right now, it really is so that you can use it wired in docked mode. How bizarre.
We also encountered something we couldn’t reasonably explain. Whilst the console was off but still in the Nitro Deck, the indicator light came on all of a sudden and then disappeared after some seconds. This happened at least twice, and whilst we doubt it’s anything of concern, it’s still clearly unintentional and something we felt was worth mentioning.
The Nitro Deck is a great product in principle, but sadly one major design flaw leaves us unable to recommend it without an asterisk of titanic proportions. If all you plan on playing are games that leave the right stick alone for all but a few simple functions, you could well be advised to give this a look. However, if you plan on playing anything that requires significant right stick usage, its poor positioning means you might be best to give this a miss.
But hey, at least it won’t drift.
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The right stick position looks identical to the position on the regular Joy-Cons though, at least when I compared pics of the Nitrodeck to the analogies controller on the right Joy-Con.
the "output" usb C is so if you are traveling, you wouldnt need to carry an extra pro controller around in order to play docked. imo.
this is optimistic design, assuming that anyone would want to do that with this controller. 😂 but, imagine if you did. 👍
@Willo567
even if one chooses to believe you over the article, its still an outright failure for not improving the ergonomics of the standard configuration 👍
I bought one, played with it for a day and returned it. The deal-breaker for me was just how noisily clicky the L and R Buttons are. Like way noisier than other controllers. Was trying to play in bed next to my wife and it didn't go down well. It's the only chance most days I get to play, what with kids and work and life. If you're not trying to play quietly it would be pretty nice.
Does it have rumble or NFC?
Only one fatal flaw? Um how about the price? It's somehow more expensive than pretty much every other option I can think of.
@ralphdibny it doesn't have an NFC reader. I think it has rumble but not HD rumble? How you can review switch controller without mentioning those is utterly beyond me, but this is Alex we're talking about
I have one and haaaaaaaaaaate the rumble. It just feels so cheap and is so loud.
@Arehexes dang it! I really wanted one too. all of this negativity around it is making me glad I jumped the gun and got hori splitpads months prior tho lol
I have one and love it. Best portable Switch controller by leagues. The right stick feels great, and the Dpad is phenomenal.
@Frogspree Mine was $59.99. What are you on about? How much are joycons, again?
Looks like something for fans of portables. I can't imagine I'd get much use out of it as I already have some controllers and this looks awkward compared to the wired Hori controllers and I never play portable. And I don't really get the kickstand, like why put it in there if you have to set the controllers down? If you're playing in table top mode, you need controllers in your hands, not on a table.
@epicgamner If I could turn off the rumble it is the best feeling way to use my Switch. Gives me that vibe of holding a Game Gear. It's just if I play something like Pokemon Violet that rumble is horribly loud and sounds cheap.
The split pads or the split pad comfort are also great though, so don't feel bad.
I have it and have almost heat borderlands 1 on it. Hate that right stick but no returns so thought I'd give it a full fair shot before it hits eBay.
It does get better over time but your right hand will have to offset and your index finger gets some pain as a result.
Hopefully it doesn't develop phantom button inputs after 2 months like the Nyxi GameCube one.
@LikelySatan I'm looking at the purple one and it's £90. Joycons are £60.
Ive been curious about these, but have used the hori split pads for a while now. Mostly, would've been curious to see how they compare as I love the hori's.
I bought a black one and returned it the next day. The problem I had was once it was all setup etc I left the console in sleep mode and when I came back nothing was responding, like the buttons wasn’t working at all. I had to reach for my joy-cons to unlock the screen then suddenly it started working again. I also still got hand cramps so thought what’s the point in adding bulk if it doesn't make holding the switch any easier.
@LikelySatan the added shipping costs are outrageous
@-wc-
I've read opinions from others with larger than average hands where they've stated it didn't feel uncomfortable to them.
If you have an OLED Switch, be warned there are many users reporting disconnection issues. Its a half baked product.
Is this a review or a first look? I would like to hear and see a more detailed description of all the existing nuances of this “gamepad”. How does vibration and motion control feel?..
@Frogspree The purple one includes a case. Joy-cons do not. You can buy one of these without a case for a much lower price.
Complaints about analog stick placement reminds me of my criticisms of Playstation controllers.
What they really ought to do is try to copy the Steam Deck's controls placement. That seems to be very comfortable.
Does it have rumble? How does it work? How does it feel?
Do the buttons click?
These are two things that should be covered that aren’t. Comments have answered but really should be in the review
@HeyL1sten if I knew this… hopefully I can return the controller
I like how this review is in both text and video form.
@epicgamner Hori's Split Pad Pros feel nice in hand and everything, but they really messed up by not including rumble or gyro. I really don't like playing Zelda, Splatoon etc on it because it lacks gyro.
@KoopaTheGamer agreed but theyre real great for the games that dont need them
@Frogspree what other options? There really aren't any other "grip case plus controller with back buttons and hall-effect sticks" options out there. Any other grip case plus hall-effect joycon mods would cost more and/or need DIYing
@Willo567
well third hand anecdote is slightly better than pure speculation, so i guess ill take it. 👍
@Stocksy it has rumble but it's more of a terrible buzz. I've had to turn down or off rumble in the few games I've tried it with, but I really like the back buttons for L3/R3 (and L1/R1), very used them it from 8bitdo Pro 2 and Ultimate, and Steam Deck, so I'll keep using it. All the buttons feel nice and clicky.
@LikelySatan You argue that Joy Cons are more expensive, but for an extra $20, you’re technically getting 2 controllers that aren’t just a slip on - they actually have more purpose
More so than games, controller tastes really seem to vary between people. While Alex found the right stick position uncomfortable, I have zero problem with it. I find the controller incredibly comfortable to use. Maybe Alex and I have different size hands or are used to holding the controller differently?
For what it’s worth, most other media reviews have also raved about this controller: IGN, Arstechnica, Engadget.
It's honestly difficult to go back to any other form factor after using Hori's Split Pad Pro for so long, so this one is clearly not for me as far as Joy-Con alternatives are concerned.
@Arehexes
You might know this, but it's possible to turn off rumble for all devices by going into System Settings -> Controllers and Sensors -> Controller Vibration.
I have some comfortable to hold Binbok joycons that have some unfortunate excessive non-HD rumble in certain games, and end up doing that regularly while gaming on the go when the rumble is becoming an issue.
@MrCookieCrisps I have giant hands, man. Those things are not playable. Maybe that is why the lower right stick doesn't bother me. I get that the joycons are massively over-engineered and can do a lot of great things...but I don't need HD rumble, would never use a single joycon to control anything I cared about playing (and I already have 8 of them), and I prefer a grip to split controls.
Also, stick drift.
@Frogspree The limited edition purple ones? Those are limited editions...
@TrixieSparkle Those were comfy until the dpad broke and I had to take them apart all the time. They could use more heft as well. Eventually the left hinge broke.
Man what a humongous bummer I was really hoping this was finally the solution I was looking for. I play primarily in hand held and I play a LOT of Splatoon. My joy cons are on their last legs so I’ve been looking for a third party replacement but so few have motion control which is essential for Splatoon. When I heard this had both motion and rumble I got really psyched but the right stick is how you launch your special so this review was disheartening. The search continues, I guess.
@JayJ yeah I really like an upper placement for my joysticks. The Wii U pro controller was great for this and also the fact that it had Nintendo style buttons meant that A and X are still the same distance from the stick which I feel is an overlooked bonus of the Wii U Pro controller.
I'm loving mine. It felt weird for about 10 minutes but now I wouldn't go back. I play exclusively in handheld mode and it makes long sessions pretty comfortable. I've seen a few reviews mention the right stick placement but it hasn't bothered me at all. I've not really had a reason to think about it. The sticks themselves feel great to use. The clicky trigger buttons don't stay clicky for long. At least I'm not noticing them anymore. The overall build quality is nice and it makes my Switch look like a GameCube. What's not to love about that?
i just wanted a full body joycon replacement that could make my switch OLED feel as sturdy as a switch lite and this does about as close to that as possible so I'm still very happy with mine outside of the extremely loud rumble
Both split pad compact and pro felt too light and cheap in the hands, especially the pro felt like gripping a couple of large dixi cups. The right stick on the nitro deck is a serious oversight, hopefully a model 2.0 fixes that. I went and ordered a Nyxi Hyperion pro controller. Hopefully it is "the one".
@Grahamthecracker
Yep. Completely agree. After years of using the switch pro, I can comfortably say I actually prefer the wii u pro. The sticks placement is simply the best of all sticks placement I've tried which is pretty much all of them. The buttons placement makes it feel like none of the main positions (dpad as main or left stick as main) feels like a secondary, slightly less optimized position. And there is simply no other controller out there doing this. You can play hours of monhun or mass effect online with this controller just as well as a crazy amount of Super Meat Boy or DKCTF and for all of these, the wii U pro is going to feel like it's the best controller for this particular game.
Now there are things that I prefer about the switch pro and that would be the choice of plastic, the matt finish and the overall weight. But apart from that, give me an hd rumble/gyro ready wii u pro anytime I'd buy about five of them just because.
Bought one, didn't regret it. Saw some clip of it on TikTok and decided to try it myself since I didn't ease up that well with Hori Splitpads (was too bulky for me and had that fragile feeling, I don't know). I'm still not using the additional buttons at the back of the deck, maybe I'm gonna try that soon, never found a use for it as of now. The Nitrodeck feels bulky, yes, but it feels a bit solid and stable for me, as compared to the regular joycons or even the ones from Hori. It just depends really, what is comfortable for you or not. I got huge hands, so this deck is a win for me.
Sheesh... the amount of fuss people make about controllers...
As long as its not giving me blisters and the inputs work, let's party.
Thanks for the review. With the other problems mentioned in the comments, it looks a complete dud. I'll stick with the Hori Split Pad Pro!
@JayJ The steam decks placement is great... however if people are playing like overwatch or any shooters I wouldn't really recommend it. It could just be what I was playing, but I recently played the first descendant beta on it and I was having all kinds of problems with aiming (I also have borderlands 3 which I didn't have much problems with and Tina's wonderland that I just started so the jury's still out).
@calbeau I've both the split pad pro and the split pad mini, I loved the pro but I think the mini is even better (partly to do with the fact my pro pads don't lock into place anymore so the slightest bump sends them out of place), I definitely feel the same way about them as you, even though I did order the nitrodeck.
I have tried to stick with the Nitro Deck, but finding the right thumbstick is horrid. Requested a refund, I wanted it because I feel the joy cons are poor when used for shooters, but I totally agree that I'd rather use them for shooters than the Nitro Deck which is just defeating the point of the purchase for me.
Does anyone else think they should have set it up like a Wii U GamePad? (Both sticks at the top.)
This might solve what little that might be wrong with an already good product.
I've seen a product on Amazon UK set up with the sticks at the top.
@XiaoShao Alex uses a Satisfye grip which offsets the right stick. Maybe that's why he's uncomfortable.
I had high hopes for this product, but it'll be a hard pass for me.
Got on Amazon and returned it same day. Scratched the back of my Zelda TotK Switch, as well as that right analog stick really is very uncomfortable and positioned really badly.
I wanted to love this, but it really isn't worth it.
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