Here we are again — the Switch 2 rumour mill is out in full force once again, but it's a little bit different this time around.
Earlier this week, a report from VGC (which in turn has been corroborated by Eurogamer) stated that dev kits for Nintendo's next console have been shared with key studios and the console is targeting a late 2024 release. We won't go into all of the details here, but these feel more concrete than the other rumours that have reared their heads in the past.
The chatter of Nintendo's appearance at Gamescom 2023 later this month, and our own thoughts on what games could potentially launch with the console, have only fuelled the fire — next-gen Nintendo is hotter than ever.
So of course the lovely NL video trio of Alex, Zion, and Felix have sat around the scorching hot rumour campfire to talk about all things Switch 2, Switch Pro, Switch successor, etc. Check out the video below and head on over to our YouTube channel for more discussions.
What do you think of the latest Switch 2 rumours? Do you think we'll see the console in late 2024? Let us know.
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Switch 2 will have dual screens again like 3DS.
It will be detachable style.
When being handheld mode, it will looks like 3DS, but when being detached, it can be docked and the other screen will working like Wii U style.
That's my prediction.
May I propose Sw2tch, pronounced “swi-tooch”?
@Yosti
Prediction can be right or wrong.
I'm just guessing.
I'm really sure the Switch 2 will sell a new gimmick to attract the audiences.
After hearing all the ambulance chasing for the "switch pro" for years, I have lost any hype at this point. Just seems like game journos don't have anything to talk about.
@Anti-Matter This is what I want it to be, but I'm pretty sure that's quite a long shot.
Honestly, trying to figure out the naming convention of any upcoming Nintendo console is the most fun for me. They could literally just update the switch and make its processing and capabilities on par with the PS5 and XB Series... Series, and call it Switch 2 and I would be fine with that, but we all know that its gonna be called the Nintendo Shibuya Monkey Remnants console
I have no particular interest in next gen but an organic hardware update as others do with their tablet market would be welcome. I am a N fan since several decades but if only Nintendo abandons switch digital catalog I swear Switch would be my last Nintendo console. I invest ALOT into eshop and quite proud of not contributing into plastic industry in this particular matter.
I just want it to be backwards compatible at least please 🥹
I've always thought second half 2024 would be the debut of the next system and it seems to be playing out that way. I am expecting full backwards compatibility with the Switch, still a hybrid system, but with some sort of new "twist" to make it stand out.
@turntSNACO
or 2witch and all they have to do is flip the S
The Switch 2 will have LCD screen not an Oled screen and it is a home console and it will be to in handheld. İt will use cartridge-based games.
My prediction is that is just a pro version of the Switch. Hopefully it's not called the Switch U, but it will be a backwards compatible Switch successor with better graphics and a little bit bigger screen. Current gen joy cons will work on the device, but can't be attached, because a Joy Con 2 with even more peripherals and gimmicks will be sold separately.
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I was abducted by a Switch 2, so I know it's real.
What do we know about Switch 2?
Nothing!
Thanks for watching you lovely people.
It's kind of hard to care about Switch 2 when the current Switch lineup for the rest of the year is so insanely strong and we haven't even had the September general Direct yet.
I just hope we don’t get another console where we have to rebuy all our games. If it’s the same CPU architecture, sure BC could work. If not, hope Nintendo’s emulation skills are great.
most important thing is a strong 1st year line up, the switch's success is due to it being an actually neat console, but also the wii u's failure.
@Grumblevolcano I agree with this, switch is still going strong. I have zero interest on a successor. Also totk proved that competent developers can make games run amazing on the aging hardware, pkmn sv was gonna run like garbage regardless of the console it was on.
Given how many sure fire things have not happened with Nintendo stuff this generation I still put zero stock in any of this. Either Nintendo is changing directions regularly and the leaks can't keep up or they're intentionally letting misinformation out to mess everyone up.
The prime trilogy on Switch
Mother 3 (Nintendo Force even did a cover issue they were so sure!)
Wind Waker and Twilight Princess HD
Switch Pro every six months...
And on and on. Speculating on Nintendo stuff is worthless.
switch 2 is coming next year summer or fall..
Part of me wants the next generation of Switch to be a Nintendo Switch Online Cloud Gaming platform service so everyone has a meltdown.
But really I just want a backwards compatible 4K Switch with beefed up internals, and NSO to get even better.
@Grumblevolcano I know right? So much to play and announced and people are focusing on something that doesn't exist/no announcement.
Lets talk N64 HD... (N64 Resurrected)
No screen but a real console that requires your TV.
Updated N64 console redesign (slightly).
Powerful enough to play every game at 60 fps.
1080p resolution because 4K just means longer development time and larger games (file size).
Gamecube style controller.
Real carts with actual manuals (fun for collectors).
At launch, comes with Mario 64 remade from scratch in 1080p!
Now that's a Nintendo system I would like to see.
I want my 2witch to have 3 functions: console, handheld and VR goggles. They can do it, halt the front and rear cameras and invest on an state of the art screen so we can squeeze all that sweet DSLL or whatever that upscaling technology is and by doing so, we can put those joycons to good use for once.
I'm totally cool with Switch, and really the major things I want in a successor console are beefed-up horsepower, and make everything on the e-Shop, and NSO already there from the get-go. No need to constantly re-build NSO libraries from scratch.
I'll only accept two swiches duct taped together.
I wish Amiibo were more toy than figures so I reckon the Switch 2 will allow a physical Mario Party, that comes with multiple gameboards. Each square has an NFC reader and you play them with Amiibo. The Switch sits in the middle of the table and is the games master (dice rolls and challenges.) and communicates with your mobile phones.]
Edit: I just made that up, but after re-reading it...it's not that bad an idea!
@Thesharkfromjaws finally, someone talking some sense.
Well they are definitely rumours, rumours of previous rumours... That are based on pure conjecture and guesswork... That Nintendo will release a successor for the Switch at some point... I mean, spout the same rumours over and over, at some point you are going to be correct.
Oh boy it's this exact same article for the 50th time. SKIP
I really really hope it’s just a straight upgrade of the Switch. Better graphics, more features. Backwards compatible. Let me just login and have my friends list and Switch library right there. They really don’t have to reinvent the wheel, they’ve cornered a market that pretty much belongs to them and it’ll stay their’s as long as they have the exclusives to back them up. Sony didn’t make anything radical with the PS5 and it’s doing great because it’s just what people want- a more powerful PlayStation. I think Nintendo can do the same with a new Switch.
@Anti-Matter I love wild swing predictions! Pokémon Black and White reboot will be day one launch title with compatibility for 1x2 vertical TV setups.
I work in marketing and can't say too much, actually can't say anything at all.. but these aren't rumours this time I can promise you.
@linklvr
2witch would be "twitch"
@Classic603
two-witch (or two-itch). lol
Dual screen that you can take off and give one to a friend to play local co-op?!?!? OMFG this would be CRAZY!!!!
I read an old tweet from the Switch 2 that was racist.
Let's not please.
🤞🤞🤞 Please be called Super Switch, Please be called Super Switch, Please be called Super Switch, No Whammies, no whammies, no whammies 🤞🤞🤞
@GrailUK That is a great idea. It wouldn't be out of Nintendo's realm to do such a thing, as during the lifespan of the e-Reader for the GameBoy Advance, Nintendo (already) did make a Mario Party game almost exactly like you described. The mini games were played by scanning a specific card, or cards through the e-Reader.
@Everone Else: I'm sure the Switch successor is likely already in the production phase, and has not been in the brainstorm phase for a good amount of time, now. Nintendo, and other technology co.s have had the experience of time offsets from Covid-19. The Switch will have been commercially available for 7 years in the next 8 months. Once a co. gets their product out of the factory, they are already working on a new product.
Honestly if the next Switch is backwards compatible or they are trying hard to make it work like all the reports/rumors are saying I can imagine a reveal this year. Crazy but, if they can get BC figured out then they might not lose sales from the holidays like everyone thinks they would. They could introduce a good price cut on current switches or make actual holiday deals to quickly clear out old switch stock while getting everyone excited for the upgrade patches of regular Switch games when the Next Switch comes out. This is just the ideal tho.
@Ryu_Niiyama What’s wrong with people focusing on new hardware or any new technology? I’ve had a fantastic time with two different switch models and spent countless hours playing amazing games, but I’m also very excited about what’s to come, I don’t know why so many people are so judgemental about that? Live and let live and maybe stop being so negative
maybe the successor to the Nintendo switch will be a dedicated console with possible backwards compatibility with Wii, Wii U, and GameCube games.
i have a slight dislike towards the hybrid console concept, but partially because i never use it. i liked it better when Nintendo had both portable gaming systems and dedicated gaming systems.
maybe with the Nintendo Switch 2, we might see two base versions of it. the first one being a dedicated console and the other one being a handheld gaming system.
or better yet, maybe Nintendo will bring back the Nintendo 3DS class of devices and give us a smartphone version of the Nintendo 3DS.
They’re in a great position, so long as they create something that is market friendly. Three years in and the PS5/Xbox are mostly living off of enhanced ports of PS4/XB1 games! Switch 2, or whatever it will be called, will automatically have the quality exclusive first party titles, but they’ll also hopefully have a good amount of quality third party support as a result of the success found on Switch (Monster Hunter Rise sold nearly 8 million! When is the last time a third party game sold that well on a Nintendo console? Street Fighter II on SNES?).
The only thing I care is if Nintendo makes the new console compatible with Switch cartridges, that's all and i'm sold.
@_fatto_katto_ a high end console with a switch cart port. Like the DS and 3DS.
I want Switch 2 to be so powerful that it literally melts my hands to the console.
So my pie in the sky wish for Switch 2 is a purely handheld device, no detachable joycon, with optional dock. The dock would be capable of 4k uprez and would have an sd card slot/cart port for Switch 1 games. And as long as we're just wishing, I'd love to see an LCD option and more expensive OLED option.
We might get a new Switch, but I don't think we'll get a Switch 2 or generational upgrade.
Like ... maybe ever. Nintendo and Microsoft both seem to be moving away from generational consoles.
Nintendo has it easy. Most 3rd party games are already made for systems orders of magnitude more powerful then the Switch. If they release a more powerful Switch, 3rd party developers are going to scale games down to run on the original Switch because 130 million sold, 90 millionish active install base ... so not really hard to scale it down "a bit less" for a more powerful system and maintain compatibility over both.
At the same time, 1st party games can just be made with both specs in mind. But I mean ... Nintendo clearly isn't having a problem selling 720p at 30fps. Why up your development costs by putting out a more powerful unit a year after record breaking software sales?
I honestly wouldn't be shocked if we get a new unit with an SSD and MAYBE a chip to provide some ad hoc scaling to a slightly larger screen in portable mode, but no other improvements. I also wouldn't be shocked by a cheaper model with the same power. Hell, I think a $99 USB dongle to play digital Switch games on your TV is more likely then a upgraded system.
We are going to see a HUGE downturn in the high-spec gaming push after Sony self destructs. With Moore's law broken, high end, generational consoles don't make sense any more. For a PS6 to be meaningfully more powerful then a PS5 it's going to have to cost $1500(CND). Anyone willing to pay that much for gaming is gaming on PC, and MS is releasing every console game it makes on PC.
MS's next console is going to be a cheaper system that plays Xbox X games at spec. It will not be a more power series X.
@BiscuitCrumbsInMyBed Live and let live indeed which is why I said I wasn’t hyped. It seems to me to be more negative to tell someone else that they can’t express their own feelings about something. But by all means continue to tone police. I notice you never said why you were looking forward to the next system or the system after that. Sky’s the limit for speculation after all. What does gaming in 2045 look like to you?
Here’s the greatest developer spreading BS rumors quote of all time
“Several developers that have experienced 3DS in its current form have reported, off the record, that it has processing capabilities that far exceed the Nintendo Wii and bring the device with abilities that are close to HD consoles such as PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.”
https://www.ign.com/articles/2011/01/26/everything-we-know-about-the-3ds
I Definitely expect full backwards compatibility after all the physical and digital money I’ve spent on my Switch library. A larger console memory than 32-64G for Pete’s sake and MOST OF ALL a much improved navigational experience in the switch eshop?? It’s just horrible!! Ughhh! Even the Wii U eshop layout is better and has NO LAG!
@Ryu_Niiyama You’re absolutely free to express your feelings, I’m just questioning why it bothers you especially when it doesn’t effect you, I suppose being on a Nintendo site and having topics based on new hardware is only natural to get people highly focused.
I mean ideally now would be a great time to start talking about it, the switch is in its later life, it’s had all its system selling blockbusters released, with the exception of Metroid 4 but Metroid doesn’t sell systems, of course it’s time to start looking ahead, it also good for people who may not have the means to buy it at the time to start saving now
One of my favourite games is Mario Galaxy, it’s an absolute gem, but that game wouldn’t of been capable on the GameCube, Ocarina of Time wouldn’t have been capable on the SNES, so that’s why I look forward
@BiscuitCrumbsInMyBed so why does it bother you that I am not hyped when it doesn’t effect you? Which is the crux of this. You’ve gone out of your way to engage me fruitlessly when you could have been adding to the speculation.
I already said in my original post why I wasn’t hyped as the constant rumor mill for years about switch pro and the rest of the ambulance chasing meant at this point I have no interest.
Ok that’s great that you look forward, still has no bearing on how I feel currently and honestly your statement is made in hindsight. You had no idea when LttP came out what OoT would look like. Have a nice day.
What I want most is that the controllers of the next Nintendo console have Hall effect sensors instead of analog sticks, because controllers with Hall effect sensors never drift. If Sega could use controllers with Hall effect sensors in the 90s, so can Nintendo.
@Snatcher Same. I am not ready to move on at all. Nowhere near. Far too many games to last me my life time, personally. With the user base they have, it seems mad to start from scratch. I would be happy to be an early adopter if it can play Switch games. Also hopefully that would include bought online purchases.
@Sequel,
Well at least it's more original, than your uncle working for Nintendo.....
@Mana_Knight Oh I hope they don’t just leave the switch as a concept, I have been saying it for a while but all I need is a switch with just more powerful hardware, this console just feels so right to me!
@stevenw45,
Nintendo will not make a dedicated home console, that ship sailed a while ago, we will get a similar transition to the DS and 3DS, pretty much same form and more power.
The new Switch will have more power by default, as it will be using a much more modern chip set than the original, not by any conscious design by Nintendo.
@Anti-Matter i hope thats what they do, it would make sense, but this is nintendo we're talking about here. expect something so stupid its amazing or just plain stupid
the new system is going well
I hope they take the same specs as the PS5 and squeeze it into a Switch sized portable device with a 4k screen and infinite battery power.
@theModestMouse
….after opening it and commenting
@TenEighty I'd be down for this. Just would prefer new games or sequels rather than remakes. I will say I believe the size limiting factor of the carts back then did allow devs to focus on fun in most games soly. Which I think was a good thing.
@turntSNACO what about SwIItch?
Great minds in da house!
My real concern is how are they gonna convert all of those 129M Switch users to the new system. The WiiU was in a similar conundrum, and failed to make the Wii users to “upgrade”
With any announcement of a Switch 2 and eventual release, I’d look forward to retailers selling Switch games heavily discounted and only moving to the next gen 12-18 months after any release.
@SalvorHardin that was true. The 3ds was capable of outputting higher resolutions than the Wii thanks to the far newer chips it had and the dual screen combined resolutions. The Wii used archaic graphical tech from the late 90’s since it was using almost the exact chip from the GC. Even games like Pomemon XY Sun Moon were using HD assets downscaled to the 3ds resolution
@johnvboy
we know that it has to be more powerful, i highly doubt that Nintendo would try to keep using the same 8880 forever....
but you don't have try try to kill my optimism for me wanting them to go back to having dedicated gaming consoles running along side handheld gaming systems.
for all we know we can end up with the "Nintendo Switch U" or the "New Nintendo Switch".
All the leakers talking about July didn't realize it was actually July 2024
@stevenw45
Not trying to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but it is what it is.
The new Switch will be around PS4/PRO levels of performance, which will be awesome for a handheld device, and a massive upgrade over the existing Switch.
As for Nintendo going back to making a home and handheld console, it's just not happening, no matter how many fingers and toes we cross.
@stevenw45
I can’t think of much worse than them going back to two separate systems. Not only would it be commercial suicide and at least one would be under supported but I’d have to buy two systems to get all Nintendos games. That’s money wasted on hardware that I could have spent on software
@larryisaman
100% agreed
I'm gonna say that no matter what, even though you don't see many people mentioning or focusing on this, the Switch 2 should include a sensor bar. Too many games continue to release for the system that make use of pointer features in one way or another, and while gyro-pointing with the ability to re-center certainly works; it's a poor substitute for what a sensor bar with an IR pointer can accomplish instead (oh yeah and I guess you gotta build IR pointers into the new joy-con and feasibly pro controllers too, but that should be feasible all the same).
@electrolite77 To be honest the more I think about it the more I think it’s likely that the next console will just be an upgraded Switch. They’ve historically just upgraded the previous hardware that did well for them especially with handhelds- entire Game Boy line was just a souped up version of the one before including backwards compatibility, 3DS was a stronger DS, Wii U was a direct upgrade from Wii. It was really only the Wii that upended their philosophy and that only happened because they were backed into a corner- if the GameCube did a lot better than it did then we’d have probably seen them make a HD console like the PS3/360 at the time.
@larryisaman
I reckon you’re right. The Wii and DS have skewed people thinking and made them believe Nintendo take huge chances with their system design more than they actually do. SNES was an iterative design, N64 had its innovations (the controller, 4 ports etc) but was a straight ahead powerful system. Gamecube was similar. GBC and GBA weren’t huge departures from the OG GB, and 3DS grafted a gimmick-for-the-sake-of-it onto the DS.
I’m sure there will be a new idea or two with the Controllers but I’m not expecting anything more than a more powerful Switch, something around PS4 level to allow 3rd parties to easily port last gen games.
@electrolite77
its a possibility of them making handheld gaming systems again, but the most they can get away with is a smartphone version of the New Nintendo 3DS.
there is an audience for a Nintendo smartphone, unfortunately Nintendo would only allow themselves to create a smartphone edition of the New Nintendo 3DS and due to many reasons they would probably never end up releasing any games for it unless they are tied to the successor of the Nintendo Switch.
as you may or may not remember there were (very) few GameCube and GBA games that had features tying them together. unfortunately those features were really never used.
@johnvboy
i'm not crossing any fingers (or toes). i know it's a pipe dream, but it could happen. of course then its more likely that Nintendo will get back into stereoscopic 3D, if only for a game or two. of course then they could also try to do something with VR. unfortunately, i can only think of a game or two that would be worth it. other than that probably not.
As long as it plays Duck Hunt with a light gun I will be happy.
I'll be on board once an OLED variant comes along. Rumor has it that the launch version will have an 8" LCD screen. I refuse to buy any device with an LCD. My TV is LED, my Samsung Galaxy Book is QLED, my Samsung Galaxy phone is AMOLED and I had the Switch OLED before having to sell it last month. Once you go OLED you never go back.
If it turns out to be a home console then I'll just stick to my Samsung Galaxy book laptop for everything but may eventually get the Switch OLED again because I did love that thing.
All i want is that it can play my switch games on it. And for Zelda totk to have a big update to play it at 4k 60fps. (Same for smash)
So yeah for a next gen switch, more power (oled screen) better battery (for more horse Power)
Better controllers.
I hope it's the same form factor and game compatible with switch. I've owned every single Nintendo system (yes, even every game boy and DS variant) except Virtual Boy. But I think I won't buy it if I have to get a bunch of controllers, can't play the switch games, etc. I'm getting tired of that side of video games.
@Grumblevolcano Insanely strong? lol
Nintendo will use an LCD screen initially, to save costs, not a biggie as their quality is very good anyways... And Nintendo will have to leave room for the inevitable mid generation screen upgrade, and model revision.
@stevenw45 They never stopped making handhelds. The Switch is a handheld
@larryisaman
I meant a dedicated handheld system. Unless you count the lite version of the system, the Nintendo switch does not count..
I know it has a handheld mode, but I rather keep the unit in its docking station and play the games on the TV.
Can we move onto the possible launch titles? I'm tired of hearing rumors of the hardware specs. Maybe we will see Luigi's mansion 4.
@stevenw45 It’s a dedicated handheld that can dock to a TV, regardless of how it’s marketed. You could plug a PSP into a TV and play it on there but nobody would say a PSP wasn’t a dedicated handheld console.
Removed - flaming/arguing
I know I’m a bit late, but I must say, this feels rather like an annual tradition to claim “Switch Pro to Release Next Year” … only for it to not!
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