Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Update Scheduled For Next Week

This game had so much potential. Sucks that whoever is in charge threw all of it out the window. Over 6 months on and still no home support too... Maybe I won't buy the dlc

Waste of a patch if it’s just gonna be multiplayer focused

I'll say it again, so glad I finally stopped playing this series...

@Joeynator3000 There's so many games with glitches you should probably just stop gaming altogether. Actually, electronics have them too, so probably just stop using all electronics altogether.

@Joeynator3000
Well, you can start playing Nexomon instead.

@Anti-Matter ...Or I can just play MH Stories 2.

Because raids were you just tap commands in and hope they go through is all ok

@Mauzuri There are a ton of valid complaints outside of just the glitches and graphics. It's nice that you can overlook them all and enjoy yourself, part of me envies you and part of me is frustrated that Game Freak could see comments like yours and think nothing needs fixed, but at the end of the day I hope you can admit to yourself that you're not playing something that feels like it was created by the highest earning media franchise in the world, on any level.

People shouldn't be surprised that they aren't bothering to fix the performance issues of the game, it's GameFreak after all, not to mention they already got their moneys worth from their fans.

One of the most unpolished and rushed 1st party games ever is the 7th best selling Switch game, does that say more about the company who produced such a mess or the fans that bought it?

This game and the state its still in, and the changes to Pokemon GO (increase of all the prices by way too much) are killing the franchise for me.

Even if they did patch up all the bugs and glitches in this game, it doesn’t change the fact is was rushed out with cut content and unfinished elements. And that’s the real issue.

It’s not like we were starved for Pokémon content either, they could have waited a year at least.

I’m thinking of buying this in a few weeks. How bad are the issues nowadays?

@Lord Not nearly as bad as all the drama queens are making it out to be. This is my favourite pokemon game to date! Enjoy!

@Ogbert I don't wanna be that guy but most games are rushed out with "cut content". We had chunks of stuff missing or not implemented in older games. The difference now is that they can still put that stuff post game launch via patches or DLC. Yeah I know there's companies that purposely remove content to resell it later or add it after (not defending this practice) but... This delusion that games were always "complete" is a bit silly. We didn't really have access to information back then as we do now. Stuff was cut all the time, we just never realized it. Or those few examples where you'd see stuff in Nintendo Power not make it until the final build. There's a ton of stuff missing/not implemented/glitches/moves that outright don't work in the original Pokemon games.

@Lord it disrespects your time even more than your money. The bugs are only indicative of the entire package, every aspect suffers from the same lack of polish and care. They treat you like a 4 year old at every turn, with the difficulty of challenges and the lack of scenery variety or overall things to actually do in the world being equally insulting. It's as vapid and toddler-friendly as it is ugly and if you're over the age of 8 it's painfully obvious within minutes that its sole purpose was to drain every last possible penny from the fanbase that has never learned how to ask for better, starting with hiring bottom of the barrel developers, apparently never hiring a single tester, and spitting it out of the oven years before most other companies would consider it close to ready. It would have been disgusting 10+ years ago, I can't even think of what word to describe it with today.

Wasn't Home support slated for "spring"? If so, they've got about 2 weeks left at most.

I used to buy every Mario Sports game because they used to be great. I haven’t bought Strikers after the reviews and being underwhelmed with Mario Golf. The same will happen with Pokemon if they consistently start releasing rush jobs like Scarlet/Violet. Consumers will not continuously spend premium money e.g $60+ if the product is not premium.

Will this finally be THE patch?

Nah, I don't think so... Until then, I won't be buying the game. Not in a hurry, though, there's so much to play.

@KaiserGX thank you for saying it!! Patches have been a thing on PC since the 1990s, but for consoles it really wasn't a thing till the Xbox 360. Some of the greatest games of all time we're not "complete" example: Ocarina of Time had massive amounts of cut content. Nintendo planned to add a lot of that back into the game with Ura Zelda, but due to multiple reasons (the lukewarm reception of the N64DD in Japan, Nintendo's own devs not feeling engaged to just make more OoT) we got Majora's Mask (which was made in exceptionally tight deadlines to the point Aonuma had nightmares about the game). I don't think anyone would say OoT is incomplete and I highly doubt people would downplay Majora's Mask as a rushed product. Despite both being accurate statements about both games. Nostalgia goggles for a "simpler time" makes fools of us all despite the same complains we have now were also true then.

There is a famous quote by George Lucas “I like to say that films are never finished, they’re only abandoned.” this is also true about video games. Game patches can help save a game that was rushed out the door, or it can allow for more content to be added post launch. It really is not an issue with patches themselves rather how they are used that should be criticized themselves.

@SpaceboyScreams well said. I've been that too-hungry Pokemon consumer for too long. This one really hit the brakes hard with me. I never finished SV, my kids never finished SV and I won't be buying the DLC and havent really bought any cards since November. Not out of protest but it just really put out the fire.

You are right - something that earns as much as Pokemon should have quality on par - if not exceeding - Zelda and Mario games. Each iteration should floor reviewers and gamers of all ages. Instead we are getting cheaper and cheaper looking/playing releases every 9 months - like they know they are tricking us and our addictions.

Arceus was a high water mark. I hope they can return to form but I have doubts. I really don't think they are capable of moving with the times.

@RainbowGazelle Summer is over a month away.

@Wexter
This is one of those cases where its nice to see the term "nostalgia goggles" not just used to dismiss the merits of an older game.

I definitely agree and feel like often you see a "correlation=causality" mentality when it comes to patches when there are a large amount of patches which end up just being minor improvements where's sometimes a game can have glaring issues which end up never getting patched.

Likewise its often common for a game to have things like dummied out content and even in the past you would get games which outright would not work as intended (The original NES final fantasy had quite a few issues for example like certain stats not doing anything or spells/items which were meant to have special properties but ended up doing nothing)

For me my only real concern is whether the ability to download said patches could end up being lost over time, though i hope that like with other digital content that devs and publishers start to "future proof" more.

@SpaceboyScreams
Yeah i feel like its fine for someone to enjoy something despite its issues or even not notice said issues but sometimes you do get those who dismiss said issues as "whining", especially when certain technical aspects can be measured.

for me when it comes to games i enjoy either the positive aspects make it easier for me to ignore the issues or they make said issues even more apparent, unfortunately for me it was the latter, the fact that it felt like there was a good game under there just made the fact that the technical issues such as the performance just made it not feel good to play for me.

@Joeynator3000 or Cassettes Beasts. Good game there.

@Bret Officially yes. But I believe a lot of people think of the calendar months of June, July, and August as “Summer”. I am among them.

@LastFootnote It's based on the tilt of the planet in relation to the sun. You looking at a calendar and seeing June, which is two thirds spring and one third summer by the way, and calling it "summer" doesn't mean Nintendo sees it that way. You can believe 2+2=5 too, but it doesn't make it correct.

@RainbowGazelle They finally just announced when Home compatibility is coming. May 24

@SpaceboyScreams these words are GOLD. So well said. Exactly why I stopped playing it… it was enjoyable but when I took a step back and thought about it I was like… nah, not supporting this any further. Too late though, they already had my money by that point… 😩

@KaiserGX yes I’m well aware but the problem with the cut content and more specifically unfinished content in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet was that the game suffered as a result. This wasn’t a “let’s cut that side quest or optional mini game” this was core content stripped down to the bare minimum. Removing features and content that was in previous games, and I’m not talking about the amount of Pokémon in it.

I’m sure masterpieces like The Last Of Us or Shadow of the Colossus had cut content and we know Breath of the Wild did, but none of them felt like broken and incomplete experiences for it.

Wouldn’t be another Pokémon article without people just writing paragraphs on how they hated these titles lol. The games have issues but the foundation is there and I had fun with them. To each their own.

But I will agree that these small random patches to solve the most minute of problems is kinda a slap in the face.

@MythTgr I will have to do that lol. Legends looks good too.

@Mauzuri I've never been overly-critical of the franchise, but I haven't played more than ten hours of Violet because of the lack of polish. I loved Arceus and it's probably my favorite entry. I know a lot of people complain about the "graphics" because they don't like the art style. I never felt that any Pokemon game was "ugly" or had bad visuals, but I think Scarlet and Violet do look really bad. The environment geometry and textures are so low-poly/low-res, especially from a distance.

Beyond that, I get so distracted by things popping in constantly. Scenery objects, people, Pokemon... everything pops in at such a close distance. That completely breaks the immersion for me. I've never played a game with such bad pop-in before.

The framerate is an issue because the the speed of the game (unless they changed it in an update) seems to be tied to the framerate, so when the framerate drops in a town, everything slows down.

The game has never crashed on me, and I didn't experience any serious non-visual bugs, but it was so difficult for me to play without getting distracted by all the weird visual ***** that was constantly happening. If it was just one thing, I could deal with it. If the game actually looked good, maybe the performance issues would be more understandable. But it looks ugly and still runs poorly. The fact is they rushed this game out less than a year after Arceus came out and made no effort to optimize and polish it. I really wanted to enjoy the game because it seemed to be the Pokemon game I've wanted since Blue, but I really wish they just took the time to make it look nice and run well.

Just like the leak said we get DLC1 and DLC2 when Switch next Gen comes out. It's odd don't we all think that.

@stungun This. It’s ok to enjoy the game while admitting it performs and looks real bad . I beat the entire game and didn’t experience a single crash but I can say that it’s for sure the worst performing AAA game I’ve played on switch . It’s frustrating because as you said it just doesn’t look good either lol.

@wouldyoukindly I'm honestly jealous of people who were able to look past the issues and still enjoy it. I know a lot of people ***** on Pokemon just for the sake of it, but that's not me. I don't want to be hyperbolic, but it's the same feeling I got when I played Cyberpunk 2077 on my base PS4. I was so torn because I knew the game was intended to be something I know I would love, but again, it looked awful and ran awful.

Except it's more frustrating with Scarlet and Violet because we all know the switch is perfectly capable of handling bigger, more complex open world games with vastly better visuals and stable performance. My friend still put around 60 hours into Cyberpunk on PS4 while I opted for a refund. It's just easier for some people to overlook those things, and I'm certainly not a 60fps/4k snob. I genuinely want to enjoy Violet but it's so difficult when Pokemon pop in and out of existence 20 feet away, environment textures/geometry look worse than some GameCube games, and the animations of some kids in a classroom (let alone the actual open world) run at half the normal framerate. Arceus had none of those issues. Some Pokemon in the distance would animate at a reduced framerate, but it was subtle enough to not be distracting, and that's the whole point of optimization. If they ever fix the performance and pop-in, even if it still looks as bad as it does, I'll be happy to play through it. It's so close to being the immersive Pokemon game I wanted 20 years ago, but it constantly breaks that immersion with all the visual issues.

@stungun complete speculation but I think whatever proprietary engine they are using is just real bad. Also the development time is so short for a big game . I get tears of the kingdom was in development for 7 years but it’s kind of crazy that they are on the same low powered console .

I have enjoyed Scarlet and Violet the most of any pokemon game, probably since Pokemon X and Y. But while I've only had the game crash once and only experienced one or two glitches, I have to agree with everyone else. The vast majority of the game is fun (thanks to it being pokemon) but the issues I have in the Raids borderline makes that unplayable.

And its honestly shocking that they still haven't put out a fix for it yet. I'm still playing and waiting for the fix but its really killing my enjoyment of the game for sure.