The wait for Bayonetta 3 is once again bringing PlatinumGames to the forefront of our minds, and a recent VGC interview with some of the studio's lead board members (including Takao Yamane, Atsushi Inaba and Hideki Kamiya) is showing that even the top-dogs of game design have got their hopes for the next Nintendo console.
In a discussion that ranges from Takao Yamane's appointment as PlatinumGames' vice president and CBO, to the disappointing launch of Babylon's Fall, the VGC interview concludes with a note on Bayonetta 3, specifically the challenges of designing a game for the Switch's hardware capabilities.
When asked about whether the Switch appears as an outdated console to be designing games for at this point in time, Kamiya responded, rather optimistically, that he does not feel restricted by the capabilities of the hardware:
We have the hardware in front of us, and whatever the hardware is, whatever the environment that we’re developing the game for at the time, we try to make the best out of what we have and feel good about it.
This, naturally, led to a comment from the legendary game designer in regard to his hopes for Nintendo's next console, citing his love for the Switch's unique portability:
Personally, this is a very lifestyle-oriented preference for myself, but right now I feel it’s really difficult for me to actually “sit” still in front of the TV and play games. For me, I lie down and play games in portable mode and I enjoy games that way, and that’s the biggest reason why I like the Nintendo Switch.
Whenever the new hardware that Nintendo decides to launch next arrives, I personally do hope that they still have this portable element so that it can support my lifestyle of playing games as I lie down!
With rumours about the Switch's successor coming at us as thick and fast as Mario movie leaks, it is a relief to hear that someone with as much experience in the gaming world as Kamiya shares our love of the Switch's portability. Nintendo's next console ('Switch Pro' or otherwise) has the chance to arrive in a whole host of different forms, but here's hoping that it can carry over some sense of portability - even if it is only to make Kamiya happy.
It is also somewhat a relief to hear that even those at the top of PlatinumGames are being kept in the dark about what Nintendo is cooking up in the hardware lab for the future. At some point we are all going to have to hear something, right?
This and much more is discussed in the full VGC interview. Be sure to head over to their website to check it out.
Do you agree with Kamiya about the next big Nintendo console? Share your hopes with us in the comments below!
[source videogameschronicle.com]
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They've already integrated their console and handheld development resources together, and the Switch's sales have fully vindicated their hybrid hardware approach. Not a snowball's chance in hades that they'd backpeddle from this approach now.
As always, here's hoping nintendo iterates on the switch design. Such an awesome product.
Don't lie to me, Hideki Kamiya. You don't play video games in your down time, you block everyone on Twitter!
(I'm still blocked after the Wonderful 101 Kickstarter campaign reached its goal where he would unblock everybody.)
@Ralizah I'd rather have a choice of having a home console with more power for more games & better performance & a handheld for portability I personally never use the switch undocked so it's completely useless for me
I look forward to the Switch successor being a portable base model PS4. Get games like Devil May Cry 5, Street Fighter 6, and Tales of Arise into Switch owners hands.
Gotta keep the portability for 2024 when a new console actually might launch (assuming the best happens around the globe. haha yeah right) or it just becomes a downgraded Xbox or Playstation.
As the title said, echoes our wishes. And of course, it extremely logical for them to work with the current switch and basically just change specs. But knowing Nintendo they countlessly try and reinnervate on their consoles. And give a unique "gimmick" (as some would say) to appeal to the same audience but for a new reason.
Easily the Switch 2, being more of a powerhouse is something we all ask for . BUT for Nintendo how to does that power translate into a new console?
I won't buy a new console for several years. Just upgraded to OLED and have literally thousands of hours through at least a hundred games that are already out. We need TIME to play and enjoy and I will most likely sit out entirely on the next generation so I can do just that!
@KayFiOS There were certain instructions to follow to be unblocked, it was different from what was on the Kickstarter survey and it had a short time frame to be submitted it's why many didn't get unblocked. It's been so long so I forgot what they were.
I am increasingly alienated from people who say they don’t use the handheld mode.
The Switch has the potential to outsell the PS2 to become the best selling dedicated games system ever. Nintendo will definitely iterate on the concept.
This is the kind of developer I have respect for. Those who are ready to adjust their work environment to cater towards any type of hardware given to them, even if it means spending extra time to fit it on underpowered hardware or imposing limitations to their creativity when necessary.
I don't think we have to worry about Nintendo abandoning the portability market.
They would crazy to move away from the hybrid market. Things have changed and I don’t think directly trying to compete now a days with Sony and Xbox on a standard home console would bring the returns in.
Now they could try the split market again home console and handheld but I believe their teams are integrated now as one so it sounds like the future is hybrid.
I just pray they don’t go hand held only that would be devastating to me personnel as I love to play docked as well.
My money is Hybrid again, just a more powerful Switch, but you can never tell with Nintendo.
@KayFiOS about that Kickstarter …. Where is the W101 DLC they promised?
Nintendolife should do an article about that to bring that issue into light.
Yeah theres no way Nintendo's next console wont have portability, Nintendo struck a goldmine with this concept and it's on track to becoming the best selling console of all time.
@Dr_Luigi
Right behind you on all that you said and new console wise.
And yes Nintendo do worry me a bit on doing something a bit crazy.
After the utter failure of the Wii U, they’ve turned their fortune around exponentially. Would be a terrible business decision to drop this concept for the next system, whatever that may be!
@YoshiF2 Good god, you're right... We never got the DLC! Well maybe Kamiya should keep me blocked now, cos I feel like blowing up his notifications right now...
And then Nintendo will tell him "Ask your mum!".
In all seriousness, the Switch successor better keep the portability.
@Ralizah I see you're not familiar with Nintendo and their decision making.
As long as Nintendo keeps the hybrid concept going they can't lose. I don't own a Switch, but the next version should follow in the same vein as Apple's iPhones. Meaning better specs and build quality. At least 12 GB of RAM, better wifi and Bluetooth, native chat, better joycons with the ability to substitute buttons and analog sticks. 1080p 60 fps in handheld and when attached to the dock that should act like a home console, 1080p to 4k 60fps. As well as the OLED screen
“With rumours about the Switch's successor coming at us as thick and fast as Mario movie leaks, it is a relief to hear that someone with as much experience in the gaming world as Kamiya shares our love of the Switch's portability.”
What rumours, what leaks? Pray tell more, Nintendolife!
@Magician I think with the power of the Steam Deck and it’s popularity it only makes sense that any successor be equal to or greater than in pure processing & graphical capabilities. I mean that thing runs Elden Ring so I think it’s possibly more powerful than a base PS4. That’s the only reason I haven’t bought a Steam Deck is because of the anticipation of updated Switch model which could possibly use Nvidia DLSS technology to up the ante so to speak. Just my opinion 🤷♂️
@msvt do if a new switch console came out with ps4 pro abilities and backward compatible you would rather play your games on what would be obsolete system instead?
The switch 2 will most likely be released when the xbox series x and playstation 5 are 4 years old.
I wonder what unique gimmick will they include.
@Would_you_kindly I get that. People who only play on the TV don't really benefit from the hybrid console design. Nevertheless, there are countless reasons for them to stick with this approach, and people who just want to play games on the TV are spoiled for choice as is between the XSX and PS5.
@KayFiOS I mean, I just got into the Kickstarter and double dipped just for the promise of the DLC alone…. And I feel betrayed by Platinum since W101 is one of my favorite games ever. ☹️
I hear ya, I rarely sit down at the TV to play something myself. I'd say I'm about 85-90% handheld, I only really dock if I'm playing an RPG and I'm coming up on some important story beats. The next system better have portability, otherwise nothing will get played!
@KayFiOS yet another thing they've failed to deliver from that kickstarter
I want a “switch 2” as their next console as much as the next person but my concern is Nintendo always trying to strive for something “different” whether people want it or not.
Obviously that approach has worked well for them in the past, as well as falling flat on their face but I just feel with switch it’s the perfect console in many ways and they’d be taking a massive gamble if they ditch that concept for their next machine.
@Ralizah @Would_you_kindly My only issue is that we lost a lot of the mid-tier games that normally would have been on a handheld (and cheaper).
Game Builder Garage was $30, but most first party tiles on Switch are $50-60 at launch. Whereas on the 3DS we would get games for $30-$40 like Link Between Worlds and Samus Returns.
We did get a polished Metroid Dread, but I still think we lose mid tier games. Or they come at higher prices (WarioWare, Link’s Awakening).
I hope it's just a more powerful Switch basically with backwards compatibly.
@Dark_Isatari I think different folks have different preferences imposed by different lifestyles, and the Switch's main selling point is its ability to function well as a gaming device in any lifestyle. I spend my entire working day staring at a monitor with reading glasses on, so when the day is over and it's relaxation time, the last thing I want to do is put the glasses back on and strain to look at a small screen. So I appreciate that the Switch can be played docked on a TV.
@funkyflounder83 Nintendo bros are always slating the steam deck for its battery life , weight & how hot it can get , I doubt nintendo could make a portable console with comparable specs without those issues without it costing a small fortune & they already overcharge for outdated tech
I'd love just having a more powerful version. Give me the switch with backwards compatability and steam deck specs.
Wii U 2 confirmed! So excited by this news.
Yeah, Nintendo has completely changed how I game (for the most part). I was never a handheld gamer, but there’s just something about the convenience of getting a few rounds of Splatoon in while I’m lying in bed. I love my PS5 and Xbox, but I’ve no doubt that I game most on my Switch just for this reason.
@Tandy255 yeah there's also the argument that people who are only interested in a portable device like the 3DS miss out on games that would be solely designed with the portability in mind
When the Switch2 arrives in 2025 (we get a Light Oled in 2023 first) it will be a hybrid. The new gimmick is more camera's so to have games using virtual reality.
At least according to my crystal ball, but it may be broken.
absolutely agreed. I far prefer a portable (even with worse performance) to TV gaming. Needing a TV is too limiting.
If Nintendo abandons the portable market after the Switch, I'll get a Steam Deck or its successor.
@Mando44646 they'd never abandon the portable market if they choose not to go with another hybrid then they will most definitely have both a home console & a handheld
hoping the new switch comes sometime next year..
And que the Nintendo Life poll about our play styles in 3...2...
I don't see Nintendo abandoning that format.
Still not huge on handheld mode, but OLED does look very nice when I do decide to use that feature.
It's probably me having a heavy bias due to having entries to my two favourite Nintendo series come out within the same year (2 with Pokemon at that!) but I don't have that much desire for a Switch 2 at the moment. I'd say we'll get one in either 2024 or 2025 (or whenever Splatoon 3's updates stop basically) but as of right now? I'm still grand with the little tablet we currently have (though completely understand why others want an upgraded system asap).
My guess it will take a few more years before they release a Switch 2 with PS4 specs
Can’t wait for Breath of the Wild: Definitive Edition 60fps in 2026
@Ralizah They're in the market sweet spot. Sony has failed at portable and MS has no interest in it. Nintendo is LEGENDARY at portable. People will accept a level of reduced horsepower from Nintendo while playing on TV so long as the portable element is maintained (and the price remains reasonable).
It's such a different market, that I could imagine PS and X no longer even view them as a competitor. Nintendo owns a market space. They will NOT give that up.
I'd love a more powerful Switch. I spend a lot of time with my Steam Deck. Similar form factor, but it can handle AAA titles like Elden Ring. The Switch would have to stream it
Thats pretty much how I play my switch mostly, with split pads not doing much for strain on hands but damn is it a good way to game
@Tandy255 The loss of 'handheld-style' games is unfortunate, although was always going to happen with handhelds becoming more and more sophisticated over time.
With that said, since the seventh gen, companies have become increasingly less interested in developing bespoke versions of major releases for different platforms anyway.
@Muddy_4_Ever Yeah. And, really, their portable line of hardware has consistently been what sells well and keep them afloat. Their home consoles have just been selling worse and worse over the years, apart from the Wii, with the Wii U being the logical end point for where that trend was always heading.
The hybrid approach is genius: its leverages the strength of their popularity as a manufacturer of portable hardware to save their ability to create home consoles-style games, unifies a base that has been split between different hardware lines for decades, and offers a functionality that the competition has no interest in matching, which has helped to expand their base beyond people who typically buy Nintendo consoles.
Abandoning a popular market space where they exist practically without competition to duke it out in the crowded home console space that they've consistently underperformed in since the late 90s would be... well, "insane" doesn't even begin to describe it.
@sleepinglion I feel because of that direct competition to the switch that we will eventually get a more powerful version to atleast catch up to anything released on last gen systems without struggling
I'm ready for whatever they want to throw out at us. I just hope it's backward compatible. I've got a lot of games I want to carry over.
I'm sure it will have both a tv mode and handheld mode already, but yeah, otherwise hope they do that with Switch 2. I really hope this idea that they might not do that, isn't even being considered at Nintendo. I also mainly use the Switch in handheld mode these days.
@KramersMrMarbles I feel exactly the same way. And by backward compatible, I mean backward compatible with physical switch carts.
My sincerest wish for the Super Swith U is another hybrid model with 100% backwards compatibility.
I've mostly stopped playing my Switch handheld, not because I don't love handheld gaming, but because it's simply not a very good handheld experience. Too heavy, too rickety, screen needlessly big, poor battery life, not comfortable in the hand. Granted I have the base model and not the Switch Lite.
My DS Lite backlog is my go-to for gaming lying down. Now that was a nearly perfect handheld. I wish Nintendo hardware could progress to a point where the next console is both more powerful AND lighter than the Switch and OLED.
PLEASE just don't call it "PRO," my god. PRO is bs marketing plastered on the tools that actual professionals know to avoid.
And, this is a game console LOL. you know, for playing games? leave all the MAX, XTREME, PRO garbage et. al. to DeWalt, Ford and Xbox. 🙄
edit - my hopes for super switch in order of importance:
@KayFiOS it has been at least two years now, we’ve been and still are in the pandemic maybe it’s time to realize it and get a 1UP already !
Nintendo would have to leave their brain turned off to backpedal away from portable
@-wc- I'd love a "SUPER" Nintendo Switch though.
@Ratmasterd21
YES bring back the "super" prefix! best naming convention in the history of videogames. 👍
then, we can have SUPER Splatoon 4, SUPER Mario kart 9, SUPER fzero SX (okay now I'm really dreaming 😀)
Definitely keep it portable, I rarely use it docked. Just make a more powerful Switch, they have perfected the formula, no need to reinvent the wheel with fancy gimmicks anymore
This site is slowly turning from the switch is for true gamers who don’t care about digital foundry fps and resolution to a whole tribe of graphics whores. I applaud the change.
@-wc- No. It just needs to be called the "Switch 2".
If you call it the "Super Switch" or anything else, the general public are going to assume it's just a Switch "Pro", and not a true successor.
It's like the Wii U, people thought it was just an accessory, not an actual successor to the Wii.
I don't want a Switch successor, to be honest.
I think the Switch is fine the way it is. I'm not crazy about realistic high-end graphics, and many switch games look beautiful anyways.
@sixrings I don't care about fps, 30 is fine with me. Pop up and graphics need to sparkle on certain games though
There's no way the Switch successor isn't just a more powerful Switch. They unified their home console and portable divisions after the 3DS and Wii U came out. The hybrid nature of the Switch fills both roles anyway.
I mean there will definitely be a portable element to the console. I don't see Nintendo ever splitting into two distinct branches of console ever again. What ai could see happen though might be a handheld and home console variant of the same system to satisfy all types of player.
A handheld, slightly underpowered but prioritising things like battery life and portability and a home console with more power under the hood possibly even modular in the form of a powered dock. I think going back to the plans we saw way back before Switch was announced this might be the direction we see Nintendo go. But who knows, Nintendo always seem to pull out a bit of a curve ball, usually for the better of the games industry.
I don't know about anyone else but as a gamer in his 40's now i find it less appealing to play switch as a Portable. My eye sight ain't what it used to be and if i have the option of playing on a big screen TV or a tiny little screen I'll take the TV. My switch almost never leaves the dock. Plus you ever notice how people keep insisting the switch is mainly a Portable system and that's why it's weaker? I hate when people keep calling it a Portable like it's a poor man's game system or a lesser machine just cause it's Portable. It's only Portable if you want it to be. It's just as much a home console as the rest of them.
@yuwarite
yeah, let's all learn the hard lesson of the failure of super nintendo to differentiate itself from "regular Nintendo." what a bomb.
@johnedwin
On a system I already (and for many, very recently) paid for and own.... YES! of course. That is real value... time with so many awesome games that perform so well, especially on the OLED model, which was a real "game changer" for me this gen.
Many of us do not have unlimited funds for the games, consoles, upgrades, subscriptions, and controllers and accessories, not to mention endless time to play and enjoy what has become thousands of well performing and a great time for that actual games, including the massive amount of inexpensive Indies!!!
I'm good for quite a while, no matter what they try to hype and sell me.
@Truegamer79
totally feel you. personally, I'd trade back for Super GameCube and GBA 2 in a heartbeat.
@Truegamer79 It has 1/8 the power draw and 1/8 the size of normal consoles. I love the Switch, and it is my only 8th/9th gen console, but it's denying reality to think it's not a portable system. People say it's the follow-up to the Wii U, but really it's the follow-up to the 3DS. And there's nothing wrong with that.
@Ralizah Nintendo have been fielding a handheld console since the Gameboy. Even if Nintendo put out another traditional home console, the handheld would still be there, whether it is designated a "Switch" or not.
Will buy the latest switch whenever it comes out, 2024 i guess.
I won't open the box, until I complete my old switch backlogs. Will only own if it's backwards compatibility with my old cartridges.
"Every Nintendo fan's wish". I guess I'm not a Nintendo fan then, given I don't want a successor, as I couldn't even afford it.
@WhiteUmbrella Nintendo aptly demonstrated its inability to support both a handheld and home console last generation. Games are becoming too complex. Better go all in on one device.
I’m totally fine with the current hardware. Ideally a new console is still 2 years out I hope.
personally i could care less about the portability part, the normal switch is way to big and clunky and it gives me hand cramp when i play but switch lite is fine so if they made a console only version it wouldn't make any difference to me
2 main things that could make or break the next system.
1. Backward compatibility where switch cartridges and estore games work on new system. Loyalty is rewarded on other platforms it would be dumb if Nintendo doesn't implement this
2. Joycon drift. This has to be eradicated with hall sensor joysticks. I don't think I or a lot of customers want another system with poor flimsy built controllers when a solution exists since the Dreamcast.
@ArcticEcho
The Wii U might as well have been a home console version of the DS. You had to use both the gamepad screen and TV screen at the same time on alot of games. Mine fell to the floor once and the range got so screwed up it wouldn't work two inches away from the unit. That's what sucked about Wii U. It wasn't the games or the silly name. It was that it was a pretender. It was pretending to be a Portable but really it wasn't. You couldn't be very far from the main unit or no handheld play.
I think we can rest assured the Super Switch will also be a hybrid console. As for his comments, I primarily by a longshot play docked on a TV, whether in bed or on a couch. So I have no problem sitting or lying down playing Switch.
Honestly, I hope the next Switch really is just an upgraded dock that enhances the capabilities of the console unit- similar to an Expansion Pak ironically. I'm happy with the Switch and wouldn't mind extending it's shelf life many more years. I don't really care to get a whole new console at this current time or near future.
... Wun can only hope.
If the Switch 2 isn't just a better switch, the losers arent us the gamers but Nintendo. Because then companies like Sony and Microsoft can really finally step into the handheld/hybrid market and put out a winning product.
For all of the power spec limitations the Switch has, it continues to sell 5 years in for good reason, the format works. Don't fudge it up.
Everyone that really wants Nintendo’s next gen console has to think deeply about the fact that they will close the Switch eShop to force everyone to transition to the new hardware. Just par for the course with this company. If they surprise me and embrace legacy games/backwards compatibility in something other than a shoddy subscription service I’ll eat my words. Looking at their history though, they seem to hate leaving their eShops open.
Whatever they release im sure the hardware will be sacrificed for utility so we will once again be a generation behind and miss out on current top tier games due to hardware limitations.
I don't want better specs i want controllers that ACTUALLY WORK
and don't CRUMBLE TO ASHES as soon as I BREATHE ON THEM
I think we’d be fooling ourselves to believe that the Switch successor will simply have more power. Switch is Nintendos most accessible system to date, I’m sure it’s allowed them to collect more data on ganers than ever before. They have a greater sense of how and when ppl are playing their games. Next Switch I’d expect some “game changing” QOL improvements. Incorporating Switch into your lifestyle will surely be a focus. Think of a sleep monitor feature or a simple app that helps ppl relax or fall asleep.Ring Fit already proved the potential health benefits gaming can provide. Anyway they can imbed Switch usage into the daily routines of consumers will be key. Your phone does so much more than take calls, if they stick with the Hybrid model I’d expect they’ll try and capitalize on implementing more QOL lifestyle features for value beyond gaming. If u look at Nintendos recent trajectory, Universal theme parks, Movies…they are really expanding beyond the scope of simply being a video game company.
Also, with over 100 million sold and counting , I can’t see them not making the next system backward compatible, that’s too large of a market to just simply cut off access to the incredible library games they’ve developed and invested in.
@yuwarite agree they should keep it simple.
For the next console, my secret recipe. I require only good games a plenty in return.:
1) No stupid, confusing name
2) MOAR POWER
2) Added features, while not removing any
3) ????
4) Profit
I'm looking forward to the proven third party 8th games, the odd impossible 9th gen port and Nintendo first party stuff, backed up with retro and indie gems.
Why break a winning formula.
@BloodNinja unfortunately I think you are right which is why I’d prefer a switch pro before a switch 2.
@Ralizah I agree that they definitely should do exactly what you said. However, this is Nintendo we're talking about. They made the Virtual Boy and Wii U; which a combined 4 people wanted... I'm leery until they give us more details.
I only play docked, but I really hope it stays a hybrid. Not because I might play portably or table top once in a great while, but because all the games are made for that one system. Up until the Switch came out, if I wanted to play Pokemon, Box Boy, a lot of Kirby and Zelda games, etc. I'd need to own a portable. As a huge fan of Mario, I primarily play on home console but with things like Mario 3D Land, I felt I had to buy it even though I'd rather just sit on the couch and play on the TV. Having it all done on one system with the Switch has been the best decision they've made in years.
@Magician so a Steam Deck, then.
@Xiovanni 1. Lie down. 2. Play games. 😂
Only messing. I do it quite a lot, lounge on my couch, joy con in each hand, one behind my head and one hand to the side. Very comfy. Can't do that with a regular controller but it's one of the things I love about the joy cons.
@Nintendo_Thumb
Yeah its the choice which i enjoy, im in an inverse situation where i play at least 90% handheld but like the more social aspect that docked offers.
while TV out on a handheld isnt anything new i do enjoy how the switch handled it since they presented it as the main feature and based the system around it rather than just being an extra.
It also means that games are made with the ability to use multiple types of controller meaning the played can choose how they play, (for some its a matter of preference for some things like those adaptive controllers are literally a gamechanger)
@chipia
Its less about realistic high end graphics and more about things like performance, There are quite a few games on switch which can have trouble hitting 30fps let alone 60 and while nintendo first parties tend to run well (though some like bowsers fury have issues) when it comes to third party games and having to get games on systems where the specs vary wildly can cause issues, we also have third party exclusives which have performance issues like SMTV.
Mobile chipsets have improved quite a bit since the switch launch so a theoretical switch 2 could still be a big upgrade without going full portable-PC like the steamdeck.
i just hope they keep it backwards compatible.
@Tober it will come way before 2025...
Kamiya know’s Nintendo trends meaning there’s a good chance they pull another Wii U/3DS and ditch the Switch’s biggest selling point.
If Nintendo abandons the portable gaming experience, which is Nintendo at its best, I do think they would have a disastrous situation on their hands. Silver lining to that would be that they would have to make more of an effort in their software beyond current releases. A failure wouldn't just have basic system features for instance. It would have Nintendo personality again.
I'm not ready for the next generation in spite of the Switch heading towards its 6 year anniversary next year. I don't feel satisfied with the 1st party output compared to what Nintendo delivered on 3DS/Wii U. At the earliest, I'm seeing a 2024 release...and hopefully it's more of the same, but with more power and Nintendo personality (very lacking this generation).
I won't stand all this Wii U slander. It was an awesome console and I really enjoyed games like Xenoblade X, Warioware, and Splatoon 1 where the touch screen controls were actually smart
Problem was their marketing. When I hear Wii U I instantly think of an upgraded Wii, not a Wii successor. That's a mistake I hope Nintendo doesn't make with the Switch. If they're going a new gen call it anything but "Switch Pro" and just overhaul the controllers/engine while keeping the portability factor intact.
for the Switch sucessor to suceed, Nintendo need to add 100%fully backward compatible with Switch, improve the hybrid formula of Switch, have the graphical equivalence of a PS4/PS4 Pro
have a resonable price
don't have a confusing marketing like Wii U
good battery life
a good line up for it launch
1080p 60fps on Handheld Mode, 4K 30gps/60fps in TV mode
a camera, microphone and a voice chat on the console
QLED 6 inches screen
16GB RAM dedicated to games
64 or 128GB for internal memory
I bought the Switch for it's portability alone. I don't have a TV nor want one. My living room is a room with chairs, couches and plants for people to socialize in as I typically game on the road or in bed.
So as long as the new Switch is portable and maybe has the same graphical capability as the PS4 then I will happily upgrade in about a year or 2 as I have so many backlog games I still need to play.
“playing games as I lie down”… lol he really means playing games while on the toilet…
@Burning_Spear oh yeah I definitely appreciate being able to dock it and show/play with friends! I just don’t relate to those who ONLY play docked ^^
Hold onto your pants, Kamiya. Because the next iteration of Nintendo Switch will support upside-down gameplay. Lying down is last gen!
I really hope they do too. I rarely play in docked, and I can’t wait for a day when handheld looks and runs better.
@ParadoxFawkes I hope so. I feel like in recent years (since the Wii days) they've tried to make a system that isn't as expensive as its competition. I'd like to see them bite the bullet and charge more for something with more oomph
1080p 60fps undocked is a minimum and have a 500gb memory. A solid form version like the lite but with the option to link it to the TV. Analog shoulder buttons so racing games feel better and just an overall more premium feel. I'd happily pay £400 for a Nintendo console if it can perform better than the current switch is worse than most smartphones at the same price. A series S is £100 cheaper and 100x more powerful.
Making the Switch successor non-portable or going to back to two separate systems would be commercial suicide of the highest order, and completely insane. That doesn’t mean Nintendo won’t do it as they’re quirky at the best of times, but let’s hope not.
I’m hoping for a Gamecube 2. Maybe with new motion controllers shaped like remotes that revolutionise gaming for a short while and 480p component output. And to top it off called it a stupid name.
I woke up this morning literally thinking about Nintendo's history of consoles and what could be next. 😎 I love the Nintendo Switch... its slowly becoming my all time favorite Nintendo console. Already Top 2. 💕
If you're reading Nintendo, I love the dock functionality. Never get rid of big TV compatibility. It's a slippery slope...
@NeonPizza Exactly this. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the RG351V. I feel that covers portability nicely. But I mainly game on a PC with a 32” monitor, so I agree with you on that regard. What’s it like gaming on a monitor double that size?!
@NeonPizza I don't think I have a single wall large enough to accommodate a TV of that size! It would look hilarious in my small apartment. Glad you get a kick out of it, must be amazing
@NeonPizza The way the windows are set up in here, even a 55" won't fit! I'm really happy with my gaming set up though, so no need to go bigger. VR makes me nauseous
As much I would agree the concept of taking it with you has been great this time, I would still prefer they buck the system and bring out something different.
Roll on the real revolution in gaming
Ok to all those worried and claiming that N always has to do something new….ummm not really. Lets me give you multiple examples of successful systems they followed up on with smaller evolutions that were also successful. The NES was followed by the SNES which just improved cpu/grfx hardware and introduced a major improvement to the gamepad. The GB/GBC was followed by the GBA which also improved cpu/gpu and added shoulder buttons and eventually the big add of backlighting. Their most successful device ever the DS was followed by the 3DS which improved screen sizes and added analogue stick and the not much cared about 3D feature. In most cases the ‘next gen’ device strived to maintain BC and was successful but less so than previous device. Even the WiiU was an extension on the Wii just didn’t pop for all the known reasons. VR is the future of gaming as that is the only way to extend immersion beyond the current ‘flat screen’ options. So I predict the next generation system will be Switch VR. It will incorporate a better cpu/gpu architecture using DLSS. It will be BC so to carry forward the Switch’s massive library. It will use a 1440p screen which will make it easy to upscale 720p portable mode games (x2) and have enough resolution to do proper VR. It will have enhanced joycons and come with a VR mask that will use head tracking gyros and N will somehow find a slick way to make the VR mask also act as a dock. It will continue the Switch theme by being able to seamlessly Switch from Portable to TV to VR. Top selling current gen games like MK, Zelda, Mario can all get patched to support DLSS upscaling and/or VR modes. So thats my take. We get an evolved Switch that still allows N to innovate and add a major new feature (VR).
@NeonPizza Indeed! Though, my living room is basically weightlifting equipment and a desk for the PC. The rest is left empty for martial arts training.
@BloodNinja If you're limited on space, I suggest upgrading to an 48" LG C1 OLED. It should sit on your desk just fine (mine does). You can use it for gaming and as a PC monitor. Plus the C1 is usually on sale (around $800) since the C2 is available. I used to play mostly handheld on my Switch but now I'm split between handheld mode and gaming at my desk on the 48" LG C1. I also prefer to play my Series X & PS5 at my desk, even though I have a 77" LG C1 also. I upgraded from a 28" Samsung G7 gaming monitor to the 48" LG C1 OLED and never looked back.
@DTfeartheBEARD Oh, thank you! But I'm perfectly happy with my 32"
@NeonPizza I put in 30 hours of training last week, and have trained 12 hours so far this week, so I understand.
I hope you are able to get your cable machine soon, those are really handy!
@NeonPizza
I agree in that its been a game of diminishing returns on grafx upgrades since the PS3/X360 brought us the first HD leap. I just bought a PSVR kit this year because they came back around and I was able to get the iron man bundle for $250. Hadn't been doing much with my PS4pro recently and hadn't realized that Sony had so much VR content at this point. So far my faves are Moss (fun, that little mouse really hooks you) and the SW Squad game which is just a face melting experience moving in 6 axis in VR. I have been playing with No Man's Sky and Skyrim VR as well and its pretty impressive to see full sized developments like that get the VR treatment. Fingers crossed that N moves in this direction as it would be really nice to have a 'lighter' system that could give us portable VR without the need for cloud streaming. I've been slow to adopt PS5 (mostly because I can't find one without a struggle and PS4pro has still been getting all their major releases) but eventually I'll get one and jump on the PSVR2 as well because we know Sony will give it major support and top line titles.
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