Can anyone think of any video game soundtrack that's been debated over more that Sonic the Hedgehog 3's? The King of Pop — Michael Jackson's — involvement has long been debated, with other musicians seemingly confirming that he did indeed help with the game's music in an interview back in 2016. But this has still been contested by other SEGA employees.
One of those interviewees — Brad Buxer, a keyboardist who worked closely with Michael Jackson in the '90s — recently sat down with the Abbey Road Institute Paris to talk about his involvement in the music industry, including how he got into the industry, his time in the new wave band The Jetzons, and how he met and got to work with MJ.
Naturally, the Sonic the Hedgehog 3 soundtrack came up, and Buxer discussed his and Michael's involvement with the music, suggesting that MJ was a bit more hands-off with the process.
With 'Stranger in Moscow'... [Michael Jackson] calls me at 10:30 in the morning. I go knock on his door and I had under my arm a cassette player — I'd been doing all the SEGA Sonic the Hedgehog cues because the way Michael works is, he'll tell SEGA he'll do it and then he says "Brad, you do it." Right? So I think we did one cue together with Michael. One. And the rest I had to do myself.
So I had the cassette on me – I had 41 cues done – and I said "I'm sure you want to hear this Sonic the Hedgehog" and he said, "No, just play something." And I played the verse for 'Stranger in Moscow' and then I came up with the chorus on the spot and he loved it. So in an hour and a half 'Stranger in Moscow' was written.
'Stranger in Moscow' has often linked closely with Sonic 3, as the game's end credits theme is extremely similar. Buxer's work on Ice Cap Zone and Carnival Night Zone is also linked to some of his previous music — the former with an unreleased Jetzons song, the latter with Jackson's 1991 song 'Jam' — so this discussion puts the two songs closer together.
Michael Jackson isn't credited with composing the music for the game, and SEGA has previously denied his involvement, though other sources have claimed that his removal from the project is due to child molestation allegations. Buxer also claimed in 2016 that the musician wanted his name removed himself "if they couldn't get it to sound better".
Interestingly, this interview (shared at the end of May) comes just before the release of the upcoming Sonic Origins, which will include the first rerelease of Sonic 3 & Knuckles for the first time since 2009. Much debate has been held over what music will be used in the new compilation, with no clarification from SEGA yet.
You can watch the whole 14-minute interview with Brad Buxer below. The segment on Sonic 3 and 'Stranger in Moscow' starts at around 7:04.
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[source sonicstadium.org]
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Seems more like he confirmed Michael Jackson DIDN'T have much involvement in it, other that one song. Brad Buxer did most of the work.
Wait... I thought that was already confirmed decades ago.
They know they're bad they're bad they're really bad for not confirming this sooner. I'm sorry I just couldn't resist 😅🤣
It's so strange they make these types of deals when it comes to video games, whereas in movies, all the musical rights are done so that as long as you have the right to the movie, you can rerelease it as often as you want and the musical rights are taken care of each time.
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Weird how they always seemed to make such a big deal about Michael Jackson being involved and now we hear he only did one cue and it was mostly Brad Buxer doing the work? That seems a bit shady, but I suppose a lot of things around Michael Jackson remain shady
I've never understood the whole deal with Sonic 3 & Michael Jackson. Whenever people talk about Sonic 3, Michael jackson is the 1st thing to come up. some of my pals in my elementary school days were always talking about it.
The fact this interview was released gives me positive hope. 🤞
@SteamEngenius BUUURRRRRRN 😂
Thank you for this respectful article, Stranger In Angel Island… 👌 Jackson was credited as Producer many times, to say he just ‘sang the words’ @Royalblues? That’s doing him an injustice.
@SteamEngenius zero need for that
What's up with Classic Sonic games and having songs not owned by SEGA? The entire soundtracks of Sonic 1 and 2 are owned by Masato Nakamura and then there's the whole Michael Jackson thing in Sonic 3, seemingly not in Sonic & Kunckles.
At least the music in Sonic CD is property of SEGA, right?
I cannot wait to reach Ice Cap Zone! Yes, I know it's on YouTube, but I decided to wait until I next play Sonic 3... the wait is almost over.
@nocdaes
These musical troubles with Sonic 3 are some Hard Times.
@Royalblues
As I’ve said on a Twitter post yesterday, those vox samples are definitely not Michael Jackson’s voice. They come from a sample pack CD that producers use, and one of the sample pack CDs I own from Fatboy Slim (Norman Cook’s Skip To My Loops) also has these exact samples completely uncompressed. If you need further confirmation, Stealth(Simon Thomley of Headcannon) once extracted all samples from the Sonic 3 ROM to a state before being compressed when used in game, and sound incredibly clear as a result.
Carnival Night’s samples are definitely recorded straight from Michael Jackson’s music, however (“Jam!”, glass break).
@HammerGalladeBro
Sonic CD? Everything but the intro and ending vocal tracks from Casey Rankin(sadly, no longer alive), which were used in the animations, apparently. Remember, Sonic CD’s remaster removed all vocals so that they were just instrumental versions of those songs. As of recent, they must’ve worked something out since then, because Sonic Origins now has both songs in their original form back in place, with vocals intact.
I think a good 1/2 of the OST has already been found to contain musical queues to various 80s/90s music. The Jetzons one is mind blowing.
https://youtu.be/H2OWC5Hosv8
@HammerGalladeBro Music copyright was a bit funny in the 90s, and with video games the compositional copyright was different from a usual copyright because the music wasn't replayed by the on board chipset, it was replicated. A lot of people in the 80s and 90s video games ended up retaining copyright over the composition unless they were employed by the publisher.
@Linker2A03 haha I have that album as well. Was definitely a big disappointment to me when I was a teenager and thought I was just buying another fatboy slim album!
@Zach
Lol, I could only imagine what that would’ve been like! However, you were sitting on a goldmine of samples, too. A few of them have been used in Hideki Naganuma’s music as well.
Wasn't "and Knuckles" one of the games available in the Steam version of the Genesis Collection (that you could buy up to a couple weeks ago)?
I know Sonic 3 is one of the games missing from the Switch version.
Not that Sonic & Knuckles isn't available on PC otherwise.
The 1997 PC version was repackaged multiple times as a budgetware staple for like a decade at least. So there's probably a ton of physical copies out there.
And thankfully someone on TCRF found a code to reportedly fix that version's uncapped framerate problem.
@Royalblues
There’s a third vocal sample in the mini-boss song shared with Knuckles’ Sonic 3 theme , but this, too, is not Michael Jackson. Rather, it’s a sample from James Brown’s voice(“UHN!”). None of the samples in the mini-boss/Knuckles theme are from Michael Jackson.
The “GO!” sample in Launch Base’s track is from a sample pack as well. Run-DMC is the originator of that sample.
The only vox sample left to track down, is that weird breath sample in the credits, but this could’ve literally been anyone.
@Matty1988
Ice Cap Zone Act 1 is literally just Hard Times.
I’m guessing Brad was having a bad day and suddenly remembered “Crap, I’ve got to get a track done for Ice Cap Act 1!”
“I’ve got it. Get me the demo reel for Hard Times by my old band. No one will ever know!”
@HammerGalladeBro Depends. I think they DO own all of the music for the US version.
@nessisonett I can hear this GIF.
@Vix I can see this GIF
Kinda strange how long this rumor lasted, and NOW he confirms it. Maybe there were issues with legal stuff idk.
I think Michael Jackson's involvement has always been debatable. Michael was a singer/songwriter so unless his vocals were going to be used his involvement was always going to be minimal. I suppose he could get a co-producer credit after working with Brad, or coming up with the melodies which were then built upon by Brad and enhanced. Or he could have just been a consultant. Either way, it now just an urban legend as it were, as he can't give his side of the story.
@Strumpan It’s possible the rights are only applicable to the original release. So it’s conceivable the original soundtrack will be used in ‘original’ mode, but a different one in ‘anniversary’ mode. Guess we’ll find out in a couple of weeks.
I personally think the beta soundtrack was far superior, so I’m hoping for that!
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Dude I had no idea that Buxer was with The Jetzons at one point. That explains Ice Cap even more, I thought it was just randomly grabbed by SEGA.
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