Capcom Reiterates That 13GB Monster Hunter Rise Update Will Be Mandatory For Online Play

Pretty obvious that Lunagaron is a werewolf and that Malzeno is Dracula/a vampire.... but what is Garangolm? Since it uses both fire and water attacks, I wonder if it's supposed to be Frankenstein's monster?

Ok so I'm a new MH fan as I'm really enjoying the trial week for it. I was just now really excited to find out Sunbreak is getting a physical only to find out it's only a download code for the expansion itself. -_-

@DreamlandGem I doubt that, they would need a 32gb cartridge.

Anyhow the stream was fine, but I actually did expect more info than this.

Edit: I did expect the expansion to be a code only, but it is getting even better (see MH Sunbreak website)

"The download code included in the physical version of Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak is valid until 11:59 p.m. JST June 29, 2024"

So anybody that gets the "physical" set after this date has base gamee Rise only.

@DreamlandGem They've already announced a physical, the problem is Sunbreak isn't on the cartridge. They give you a download code for it instead

Not sure how much I'll get into the master rank stuff but I'll definitely enjoy the expansion, put a ton of hours into the base game.

@DreamlandGem but a Blu-Ray disc is much cheaper... and bigger

Anyhow not even Asia or Japan are not getting a physical Sunbreak, in all regions only base Rise is physical and Sunbreak digital.

Just checked all official MH websites about it.

@danemord I think so, based on his almost flat head, he's certainly Frank in this trio, although it would've made more sense to give him electricity.

@danemord It might be a reference to a golem. At least that's the vibes I was getting from it

I guess Black Friday will be a good time to pick the final version up.

That 13GB update is PAINFUL.
I might have to sell my copy of the game because of it

Sunbreak is up for preorder on the eshop, it costs £35.99/$39.99.

@Pillowpants But what we've seen so far is a western monster theme, and golems are from jewish folklore. Its attacks don't have a golem-like theme either :/

What I want to know about the physical release is, will the base game on the cartridge be the same version as the original release, or will it have all the title updates baked in. That would tempt me to pick it up even knowing that Sunbreak is a download code

Just gonna wait this out until base+sunbreak is just like the+iceborne. All bundled at $60 bucks or on sale for something reasonable like $70 USD. Just my thoughts.

@danemord Well its name is Garangolm... So who knows

Looks like this is the Switch’s Monster Hunter version of “IceBorne”. I’m looking forward to it, seems to be a fairly large expansion, I’ve put in over 100 hrs to the base game and I still have a ton of quests to compete still. Capcom has done a really good job with adding value and content…to bad the physical version will just include a download code for Sunbreak tho!

Can't wait to get this. I'm always down for more MonHun.

When can we pre order the amiibo?

Wait, but what's the DLC cost? Did I miss that somewhere?

Edit: never mind, Grumble got me. $40, as expected. Ehhhh, but I might still bite.

I already have Monster Hunter Rise digital since last year or so. So will I pretty much buy the Sunbreak stuff separate from the eshop when the Sunbreak stuff comes out in June?

Woke up early just so I could see the direct live and was not disappointed.

Hyped and already preordered the dlc for Sunbreak and can't wait!

@CharlieGirl ...You're going to sell your game just because of a measly 13 gb update?

@danemord Yeah that makes perfect sense and still fits in with the gothic theme Sunbreak is going for.

You also have a new Monster raptor that resembles a goblin.

So I have til June 30th to finish Elden Ring before Monster Hunter takes over once again hmmmmm

Loving the new hub town, and I'm excited about everything shown in the trailer! The new armor looks great, but I can't help but feel that, once again, reusing old G Rank armors from returning monsters is slightly disappointing. I was spoiled by 3rd Gen designing new and tweaked armor sets, even for returning monsters.

I'm still hoping we get a second map, even though their wording hints at the promised "locales" possibly consisting of the three "locales" featured in the same Citadel map. But that's only a slight concern...

It's possible Capcom is tackling armor design economically, and saving dev time by only overhauling all-new armor every so many generations.

I definitely will expect Monster Hunter 6 to introduce all-new armor at this point.

Rise was the first Monster Hunter game that really clicked with me. One of the best releases of 2021, can't wait for this expansion.

@iLikeUrAttitude Not because I don't want the game, but because I won't have enough space on my 256gb card for the update, and getting the new physical copy with the update is out of my budget.

The only mistake I think Capcom is making in this rollout if the 7* requirement. For any new player coming in because of the dlc release I think it would be better if you could enter the new island sooner - just be able to do lower level quests and what not. It may turn a few 100 (1000?) people off and I feel that the more new players who play Rise the better. It is easily one the console's best (objective fact).

Kind of how Burnout Paradise did it back in the day. If you bought the dlc all areas unlocked.

@iLikeUrAttitude it looks like a Gremlin

@CharlieGirl delete something? I mean i have a 2 tb card and even i have to delete games im not playing to fit others they can always be redownloaded later. Wish they would make a bigger micro sd tho

@MostHandsieBoy that would defeat the whole point of this expansion tho. Its master rank a end game expansion and this has basically been the way its always been

@Williamfuchs420 I suppose. Rise is the first MH game I've really sunk my teeth into and to be frank - I avoid most of the DLC info to avoid major spoils. I already know I'm in in a big way.

Amiibos for DLC now? Oh boy..

@SteamEngenius What do you mean? Its just cosmetic armor with the amiibos. There's nothing game breaking about what you get from them?

Well this did not disappoint. June looking hype now.

I guess the people that that skipped Base Rise hoping the expansion version is out completely all physically packaged lost out. It’s dlc regardless.

Hopefully once this is out we can finally get some news on the re village dlc

@CharlieGirl Just grab a cheap 64 gig SD card. Swapping is easy peasy

I ain't gonna lie- this looks amazing!

I'd pay a few dollars just to have Astalos in the game. Pretty stoked for the expansion.

@danemord Nothing obvious about it, all were based on Yokai in Rise, they never said anything about changing it. Malzeno- Shuten Doji, Lunagaron- Horkew Kamuy (aka Okami) Garangolm- either Sarugami or Hibagon. Unless they say otherwise, there is zero reason to believe that they changed the source inspiration. Bishaten in the new area also supports this.

@iLikeUrAttitude SO does the yokai Akaname

@JeanPaul @danemord its definently a golem considering fire and water is used to make them and the stone design

@edgedino ohhhh good call, didn't thought about that one.

I'm hyped! No pickle, but thats alright, everything else more then made up for it! And the pricing for these are not bad, for all the updates and content you get.

@edgedino that's very likely. Didn't consider that

Kongalord looks crazy

@MostHandsieBoy All the new quests are Master Rank though so letting in players early would be pointless as they won't be able to do anything. Capcom not long back gave out weapons and armour to carry players through the main game with ease purposely so they could quickly catch up for the expansion.

Hunting down the amiibo will be more difficult than any of the monsters in the game.

13gb ouch, my 512gb is getting full too fast. Too many switch games

@CharlieGirl

13 gigs isn’t that bad.

When Black Ops Cold War was actively supported, every major season update was about 25 gigs.

Don’t care. Buying it anyway once I can get a real look at it.

@JoeSooper This "physical" trend needs to stop. You're basically paying for an empty box

@Moonlessky guess that is the price of digital games, the patches don't help either tbh the 1tb micro SD is still quite expensive too last time I looked, I feel sorry the most for people with limited bandwidth who don't have this expansion and have to download the update anyways, not a great move from capcom

@Bizzyb it's very anti consumer especially for used sales

Maybe at mid 2022 its time to move on from the assumption that we can still play on line games just from physical discs without having to download more data

It would make sense that it is mandatory. Though I am not sure if the file size of the expansion and when you buy the expansion the download will just unlock it or that the file size is for all the equipment and then you download load the rest when you buy it.

@SilentHunter382 : Quite a lot of the time, the DLC content is built into the patch, and the DLC purchase merely activates a flag that lets you access it. You can easily tell by observing the download size for the DLC and it happens to be really small (like 4MB or less).

@Silly_G yep that is the case for majority of the games as it is easier for the developers to just add the dlc as a flag.

While games like final fantasy xiv will only download the expansion if you own it (like locations, dungeons etc) but will force everyone to download everything else (like gear, mounts etc) that other players can see even in the starting zones.

But I do wish that developers do the second option as it doesn't force people to download unnecessary data on the person.

Seems like Capcom is forcing Monster Hunter Rise players to download the Sunbreak DLC game data even if they don't actually purchase Sunbreak?

@CactusMan It's a download code only in the physical release.

Don’t care about this patch size. 512 memory gang doesn’t care when I go for physical whenever possible. Gonna still play this on Switch which I imagine the majority of the playerbase will be at based on the numbers

@RubyCarbuncle you do realize theres bigger sd cards like 200gb+ to 1tb available for switch right or did you just forget about that.

@RubyCarbuncle most sd cards are quite cheap these days.

Wow 13gb, that's like another full game in itself. It's not that big of a deal since a 32gb card isn't that expensive, I'm just glad Nintendo isn't like Sony and make their own proprietary memory cards for Switch.

@RubyCarbuncle i got a 256gb micro sd card for $30. SD cards have become cheaper and more available than ever. The switch can handle any micro sd as long as it says sdhc on it

@westman98 of course. That happens with pokemon, smash ultimate, etc. If you play with or against someone who has those dlc, it will create all sorts of issues, since the other player has things that your game doesn't have. You may not have sephiroth or the crown thundra dlc, but your game will download them anyways so that it can render the assets the other player is using.

That’s too big of a file size.

Not that big of an update, I still have a decent amount of space left for it and then some. But just to be comfortable I'll uninstall MK11 to free up 30 gigs, not like I was playing that game anyway.

Can anyone confirm?: If you have MHR digital at 10.5GB, does this update mean even the base game will be a total file size of about 23.5 GB?

I already have 10.5GB dedicated to this game I only play once every few weeks, but now if I want to play online I have to more than double that file size even if I don't want the DLC?

If that's the case, I'm definitely deleting this game.

@Astral-Grain update size and total file size are 2 different things. That will depend on how the update works on the game. It could be that the entire game + the dlc is there, or that it is compressed to that size (and could result in a bigger file size). The update might be 13gb, but that may include updates from the base game that may overwrite what was originally there, reducing the total file size.

@Astral-Grain The game size on its own prior to updates is apparently 6.6GB, so an update of 13GB would mean at least 19.6GB.

Yeesh. That's pretty meaty if you don't plan on buying the Sunbreak expansion. I still have the game but admit I haven't played in months. It's fun with others, but it got to where it was a grind on my own.

@bluesun It could be less then that. most likely there are files in that 13gb update that would replace existing files so it may be less then that.

Ouch. That's a lot of space. Glad the free trial bored me to tears within 2 hours of doing the exact same thing over and over and over and over.

@danemord garangolm is a golem because most of its body is covered in stone or moss and it can controls certain elements.

@Serpenterror or Microsoft with their proprietary SSD expansion...

Sounds about right as players with Sunbreak gear will be it the same player pool as non buyers so that means they will need all the gear and stuff in their files.

Why couldn't it be just the items and armour for the nonsunbreak players? I don't have enough money to buy another SD card and it will be to trouble some to the player to download a location they might never go to.

HOLY COPIES OF BATTLE NETWORK 4... I mean the GTA games are 25 gigs so not the craziest BUT STILL

Spits out tea
EXCUSE ME!??? This was clearly not what I had in mind for a game developed "with the Switch in mind." It's almost as if Capcom let loose their burdens of setting the necessary limitations the moment they were allowed to release the PC version.

@ModdedInkling put your tea back in your mouth old timer.

13 gigs is small, in fact by todays standards 13 gigs is the equivalent to 13 megs 20 years ago.

Get use to it, we live in a different age.

@Gamer_Zeus
I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make. 13gb is small...for PC and home consoles. But the Switch? That's like a freaking mobile device (based on internal architecture). 13gb is not that small when you have something that barely has any internal storage to begin with.

@SteamEngenius you're competing with antimatter for worst takes on this site

will this expansion be released on a cartridge along with the base game? I know they did that for MHW/Iceborne.

@Chocobo_Shepherd since they'd need some big and very expensive cartridges (if those sizes even exist), very likely not

@Chocobo_Shepherd No, physical version of MH Rise + Sunbreak has Sunbreak as a download code. It's extremely rare that publishers use 32GB carts.

@Grumblevolcano @NDragon1412 alright, thanks for the info ^_^

This was my first and last MH after June 30th I'll never play any MH game ever again.
P.S. I played MH Rise for 295 hours.

@ModdedInkling thats Nintendo's fault, you can't expect companies to continuously cater to Nintendo's backward mentality.

This is why despite the Switch's storming success, it rightfully has less 3rd party support than every other platform.

Nintendo are lacking in so many areas, storage is just one thing.

@Gamer_Zeus
But in the grand scheme of things, you have to realize the difficulties of keeping the costs down for the consumers, all the while keeping manufacturing prices reasonable. Need I remind you, Valve set a very high break-even point for even just the base model of the Steam Deck. The technology for better hardware is readily available, but it's too expensive to mass-produce at the cost of keeping the price reasonable to customers.

That's why I disagree that it's Nintendo's fault. Game developers have their capabilities of adjusting and setting boundaries. If games 10 years ago on the same hardware ran so well, why can't they do the same now?

@ModdedInkling so you're expecting companies to train to use outdated software development tools just to cater to Nintendo's 10 year old hardware? This would also impact development on hardware that isn't gimped.

When you use outdated development tools to make modern games you get stuff like Fallout 76, this is why companies adopt new technologies. So they don't end up with a Fallout 76 situation.

For developers to make games catered for Nintendo, they would need to not make any games for other hardware manufacturers, so yes.

It is indeed Nintendo's fault.

This case with Capcom is a prime example of this situation, Nintendo's gimped hardware means that you're all shocked and outraged over a measly 13 gigs of storage in 2022

@ModdedInkling think about it another way, phones use be durable and would last for days, now you charge them two or three times daily and if you drop them they shatter.

But surely you realise why that is? Or are you gonna tell me "they don't build them like they use too"...

@Gamer_Zeus
It's illogical to think that something outdated means it's hinders development. If there was old technology, it means there's a decade of experience with said technology that many common errors back then aren't as excusable nowadays. Why else do you think people are able to develop fan games on older consoles?

Keep in mind, the Switch is in a bit of the middle ground between what's up to date and what's not. It has an old graphics chip, but the architecture of the Switch is still roughly the same as many mobile devices, which is why mobile ports have been incredibly easy on the Switch, for the most part.

@Gamer_Zeus Even the original switch hardware isn't 10 years old. The switch came out in 2017 and the hardware was revised in 2019 in a silent revision that saw a boost in its power. Fallout 76 was a bad game to begin with, like almost every battle royale game is. The hardware is far from gimped, in fact running homebrew on it allows one to unlock the fps in games like monster hunter and it still runs well. Don't like the on board storage, just add an sd card. I have two 400gbs and paid under $30 for each. Not enough? it can handle a 2tb max. Offers plenty of storage when swapping sd cards out is easy. Unlike say a ps5 that requires a set of specific m.2 drives with a heatsink and requires more effort to swap. Yes the read/write speed is better, but for the majority the additional work to swap it wouldn't fit with what nintendo wanted.
The switch has its flaws, but it is still a great system. Don't like it, get a steamdeck if you want a similar experience. If not, there are other consoles, or PC. Developing for the switch isn't holding any devs back.