Mario Golf: Super Rush is just a few weeks away from launching on Nintendo Switch, and it looks like it could be a perfect pick for families and groups of friends to enjoy together. If you're keen to try out the game's new Speed Golf mode, though, it looks like you might have to take it in turns.
The game has several modes on offer, some single-player (Golf Adventure and Solo Challenge), and some multiplayer (Standard Golf, Speed Golf and Battle Golf). If you've seen footage of the game, you'll know that four-player multiplayer is available to those who want to play with friends, but a closer look at Nintendo's official website reveals a caveat.
You see, four-player gameplay is only available in certain scenarios, depending on how you choose to play. Confusingly, Nintendo's North American website lists all multiplayer modes as being just "2 players per system," which would make you think that four-player is only available by matching up with others online. The Japanese site is a little more clear, however, noting that up to four players can play on one console by taking turns and passing the controller around, but any split-screen situation will be limited to just two people.
So, while all of the game's multiplayer modes supposedly allow players to play at the same time, you'll only really be able to do this when just two of you are playing. As for the Speed Golf mode, which is entirely built around simultaneous play, it seems that four-player local gameplay is simply off the cards.
It's a bit of a shame in all honesty – Speed Golf looks like it could have that four-player Mario Party-style magic in the right company – but unless an update addresses the matter post-launch, it looks like we'll simply have to put up with two-player or jumping online. The gameplay itself looks like it'll be good fun, at least.
- Further Reading: Mario Golf: Super Rush Full Character Roster And Special Shot List
Is four-player split-screen a big deal in your household, or does this news not impact your plans? Let us know with a comment below.
[source nintendo.co.jp, via reddit.com]
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Now when someone yells “fore!” I will cry a little inside
Nintendo's efforts are not on par and pulled an eagle.
Thats actually a genuine shame. Was hoping to reunite with some friends over this game. I’m always suspicious when I see 4 player local co-op in the description these days. There is usually a catch.
Booo that sucks.
I guess the other 2 will have to wait their turn
I knew they wouldn't make multiplayer straight forward so im glad we opted to just buy 2 copies of the game and we can play together over WiFi.
Can you play 4-player in local wireless or online only?
Makes sense. You wouldn't be able to see anything in 4-player split screen lol
I even hate two player split-screen. Not enough screen.
@Poodlestargenerica "or is that a euphemism for everyone having a controller"
Since that was from the Japanese website I'm guessing either the translation was off or they were simply referring to people playing handheld and passing the Joycon controllers around which are attached to the side of the Switch. Or passing a Switch Lite. Lite kind of changes how EVERYTHING needs to be said regarding Switch games. I know both support tabletop, and I'd have to assume in tabletop each person could handle their own controller, even on Lite.
Was not the least bit interested in a golf game. Then I gathered those plat points on the website, and saw simultaneous "speed golf" and decided that would be great for my family of 4 - we have more than enough controllers - but if speed and battle are only 2 player I'm less likely to get the game.
This game is also missing tons of stuff that Toadstool Tour had, like Character Matches, Ring Shot, Club Slots, Coin Shoot, Skins Match, Near-Pin and plenty more. Does anyone know if you can even play in a Double team?
It's clear to me that Camelot has lost their touch. Also have fun paying for the inevitable Season Pass.
A shame.
I wasn´t convinced to get this. Now I´m even less convinced lol
@CactusMan don't you read credible sources? Switch Pro has everything!
Wait people still play video games on the same TV in the same room?
Nnooooo right?
@ReWane An eagle as in two less than par? That was a clever joke that took a while for me.
How do i enjoy golf video games as i oftenly (or always) get Boogie Wonderland for the scores ? 😩
Bogey!
I loved growing up playing videogames with my family, it seems like Nintendo is wanting to move away from that kind of model.
@CactusMan it is a scam and I have been saying this day one on switch games which support local wireless multiplayer. Download play saved me tons of money but it made Nintendo less money. It’s that simple.
@ToadBrigade please support Toad and his cute new outfit and buy it We can play together
I've always suspected that design decisions like this are rooted far more in corporate motives (profit) than technical limitations. Nintendo took a similar approach with Zelda: Four Swords, which essentially rendered that game borderline useless for most users. The same goes for why the industry moved away from split screen local multiplayer even as console hardware became increasingly powerful and displays larger than ever; forcing users to play online to be able to enjoy FPSes and other games with others meant each one required their own console, copy of the game, and any specific DLC needed for certain modes. In short, online functionality gave developers a means to not only gate and control users' purchases after the original point-of-sale, but to create various ways to exploit them for even more money.
To be honest I personally wasn't that interested in Speed Golf anyway, although it might be fun to try out during a get-together. As long as the courses are varied and fun, I'll be happy with just the single-player.
@CactusMan we shouldn't have to buy 2 consoles and 2 copies of the games to play multiplayer in bed together, but that's pretty much the only optimal way of doing it on Switch - Unfortunately while we keep paying Nintendo is going to keep doing it.
I usually buy Nintendo games pre owned to stop them getting my money out of principle but Mario Golf TT was one of our favourite Cube games and the Mrs wanted the new one on release so it's cost me £100 - what a rip off no wonder I'm happier giving Microsoft my money for gamepass!
Not a day one purchase now, such a shame.
I'll be honest what I've seen so far about this games is disappointing.
The original Nintendo 64 Mario Golf and Gamecube, 3DS versions were all fantastic as they had Mushroom Kingdom inspired courses but they were lame arcade like ones with enemy hazards etc.
I also feel it won't be as fun for those who just enjoy a good round of golf but with Mario characters as Mario Golf 64 was one of my favorite golf games period as it kept the Mario charm but also added a nice golf challenge.
I hope that I'm wrong but from the courses I've seen so far I'm very worried this will be a misstep.
I’m okay with this since it’s an extra mode.
However, I do agree with the comments lamenting the general trend of fewer single-console “couch” multiplayer experiences. Online is not a replacement for local multi.
Definitely a bit disappointing.
Just let other systems download the mode for free and have one person host. This way we can play with one cartridge. As for 2 player only split screen, I was expecting that.
Confirmed: Switch pro
Yeah like others have said, Nintendo are just being greedy here. If Mario Kart can support 4 player split screen, this can too. I can understand technical limitations in splatoon with all the ink flying everywhere, but this is a golf game.
I remember I got roasted on the Switch sub-Reddit for speculating this based on what they had shown and said through trailers and the official website.
To me it’s not a deal breaker, but yeah, it is upsetting. I’m curious if the supposed “Pro model”, if real, could run 4 players locally lol.
Follow up to my previous post. I’m still very excited for the game, although I do have some reserves. I think they focused so much on the “RPG” story mode and speed golf mechanics that the rest of the game might suffer because of it. As others have mentioned, it seems like other staple challenges, like ring shot and close to pin, are completely absent (unless they’re exclusively tied to the single-player mode). Additionally, most of the courses look pretty basic. Like 3 of the 6 included maps are basically the same style basic grassland courses.
This is a game that can be easily saved with updates. Add a couple free characters and courses, add a challenge mode that brings back characters matches and other challenges, and find a way to make speed golf and battle golf available in local multiplayer... but yeah, most of those are unlikely to happen.
Keeping my fingers crossed. Mario Golf has always been one of my favorite Nintendo franchises.
@WhiteTrashGuy : That's why Nintendo should have included Download Play in the firmware by default rather than requiring that developers produce and release a completely separate piece of software to fulfill the same function.
I hope that Nintendo will have a change of heart and implement it come the Switch 2, but I can't say that I am terribly optimistic considering how complacent Nintendo have been since the Switch's runaway success.
@Silly_G
It's true. Nintendo is even LESS accommodating to it's fans when their system is a huge success.
It should be ok if it allows local co-op, it just means everyone needs to have their own Switch and their own copy of this game, just like with Animal Crossing.
@WhiteTrashGuy : I won't forget how generous Nintendo were during the early (less successful) days of the 3DS and virtually the entire lifespan of the Wii U, because I am not selective in my judgement of conscience, but I won't forget their greed during their successful times either, and I won't indulge every awful "new normal" in the industry that they have since gleefully adopted.
I wanted to get this game specifically for 4 player couch coop speed golf. What the hell nintendo
This is scummy. Nintendo is probably doing this to sell systems. Granted, in my household, 2p simultaneously is fine, and the need for simultaneously/split screen 4p is not likely at this point in time. In practice, 4p split screen in tabletop mode would be awkward visually, and it still can be implemented.
I can forgive Nintendo, if this is an actual limitation of the Switch, which is possible, and doubtful. I truly doubt it is a limitation of the Switch.
If Nintendo wants me to purchase another Switch, along with accessories, lower the prices.
Edit: I'm still looking forward to this, but unless more is revealed, it appears MGSR is more parred down, compared to Toadstool Tour, which is one of my favorite Gamecube titles.
@CactusMan Pretty sure there are some Switch games with a LAN feature already, such as Mario Kart and Mario Tennis. Doesn't change the fact that there can only be two people per console in that mode.
I would be surprised if Mario Golf doesn't have it.
Also, two players simultaneously or Speed Golf makes sense. There are already people complaining about the UI being pretty small, and that would be even worse if it's split up into four smaller screens.
@Poodlestargenerica In Mario Golf 64 and Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, you could play multiplayer by either sharing the same controller or using multiple controllers doing alternate play.
Also, this article kind of has it wrong. It hasn't actually been confirmed if people can use one controller for alternate play multiplayer in this game. The Japanese site just mentioned that four people can play on a single console using alternate play, nothing about it allowing a single controller for that.
Disappointing as it was a feature I was really looking forward to. I'll still get the game on day one as the series is so much fun, and makes golf seem interesting compared to its real life counterpart.
@NorseGamerTommy You're obviously a youngster around here! In the "old days", we had no problem playing any game 4-player split screen on CRT TVs, even a friend's 40cm.
With 4 children in my house, 4 player split screen is a must. This is quite disappointing.
Now I'm absolutely sure that I won't buy the game.
It's kind of a relief actually.
Well I for one am quite happy with these limitations. I am mostly a single player and want a good single player game.
I'm fed up with the recent Nintendo TV commercials, showing multi player options, families and groups of young adults all with their own Switch linking up to play Mario and other games which are really single player games with an add on multi player mode.
And if Nintendo does not have the Mario Golf multi player mode as a proper multi player game, then good, leave this game for the single player.
We get Nintendo's 'we want every game to be a family game, a Mario Party clone, as this sells more Switch Lites. But come on give us single players a break.
@zool What a bizarre gate-keeping thought process
@zool Probably a troll, but Mario sports games have always primarily been for multiplayer.
@MrPerson0 not so much this Mario Golf game according to the writer of this article.
It's easy to tell when a reply is posted without the person understanding the point of the article. They revert to using the troll card.
@zool Except you're the one who both misread the article and don't realize how previous titles worked. Mario Golf always had four player gameplay on the same console through alternate play, and this game is keeping that. So you saying this game is more single player focused even though four people can play on the same console as before does sound trollish.
Allowing people to play at the same time (simultaneous and speed golf) is a new feature that isn't used in golf normally, and the reason why it's limited to two per console is understandable. Splitting the UI into four smaller screens would be a nightmare.
@MrPerson0 it's you again, playing the troll card again. Go read the caveat above and why some have said they won't now but the game.
I don't play multi player games so I'm not bothered if that side of to the game is lacking as long as the single player mode is value for money.
@zool And you still fail to understand that Mario sports games have always been designed with multiplayer in mind. The fact that you are even looking into this game knowing that is pretty weird.
@MrPerson0 pay attention. I know that sport games have multiplayer modes and quite often at the detriment of the single player game. So it's good to see that some gamers have said they won't now buy the game because the multiplayer version is not as good this time round.
@zool "it's good to see that some gamers have said they won't now buy the game because the multiplayer version is not as good this time round."
How did you gather this? This game allows four players on the same console through alternate play, which is what previous entries in the series had (they never had split screen).
@MrPerson0 How did you gather this?
I read the posts above.😁
@zool It's pretty clear that you didn't read the article then:
"The Japanese site is a little more clear, however, noting that up to four players can play on one console by taking turns and passing the controller around, but any split-screen situation will be limited to just two people."
Taking turns and passing the controller around (latter is optional) is in line with how previous Mario Golf titles have worked. Split-screen is an entirely new feature to Mario Golf.
@MrPerson0 well as long as the single player modes get some good reviews, including value for money, since it's a full priced game, I'll be getting it.
Let's hope the folk who said they will give it a miss because of the lack of multiplayer features are happy.
@zool Agreed. The people who are avoiding this game due to lack of splitscreen probably missed the fact that four players are still possible on a single console through alternate play.
Yes and no. At the moment I’m not gonna use it, but there’s gonna be sometime in the future where I have a gathering and it would be good to have.
4player split screen can be a hinderance to some, but can also be the best thing for others. I wish developers knew that.
@NorseGamerTommy hey Tommy, I’m not attacking you, but please read through what I have to say and this is for anyone else who comes across this. Although I guess if you prefer the whole screen for yourself, I’ll give you a pass.
But, if 2player split-screen is available; might as well make 4player split-screen. If you can play on hand held mode, then each of the screens during 4player split-screen is much larger than any portable game device.
If games where a bunch of stuff is going on is able to run 4player split screen fine( like racing games for example), then a simple game should be able to also run 4player split screen.
Sadly not everyone can get into online play, I personally use Nintendo as a family and local play device. Not everyone has over $1000.00 to buy four Nintendo switch /lites and four full priced games. Even if everyone in the house had their own switch, there isn’t multiple T.V.s in the house to play docked mode.
I’m not saying they have to have it, it’s just there isn’t any reason not to have it. Especially in 2021, where developers should have mastered it by now. It should always be an option for games like this.
Thank for allowing me to post this here
@MrPerson0 it’s not entirely that though. Sure we can play regular golf( which is always fun ), but the other modes are technically locked behind 2player mode only.
It’s like Mario kart not allowing for four people to participate in battle mode, or Mario party not allowing us to play any of the extra modes. This game literally doesn’t even have any other mode but the main mode.
I’m not saying the game is bad, it was just a bad move not to include that option.
@Mmr I did mention that simultaneous play is two player only though? As I mentioned before:
There are already people complaining about the UI being pretty small, and that would be even worse if it's split up into four smaller screens.
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