Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Tops "Best Seller" Chart On Amazon

Nah, I don't really pre order games anymore.

@dronesplitter Yeah, the last game I pre-ordered was the FF7 Remake and part of me wishes I hadn’t bothered. I think the only game I’d pre-order would be a Fire Emblem Jugdral Duology remake 😂

This game deserves a second chance.

It has probably the best relationship between Link and Zelda and THE best redemption arc of any character in the Zelda series.

The fact the game also seems to be running at 60fps is a massive deal for a 3D Zelda.

That isn't really that unexpected. I think if anything it shows how much the internet really lives in it's own little bubble... Either that or all them complaining about the price and it being a 10 year old port just went out and pre-ordered. Doesn't really matter as it shows why Nintendo rightly or wrongly happily does this.

This game deserves it, it's amazing.

I Know Wind waker and Twilight princess and good old ocarina of time is what most people probably would rather have had on switch. I'm glad it turned out to be skyward sword though! I love this one! Great music and story which btw canonically is supposed to be the origin of the whole series so it's pretty important!

People just really seemed to struggle with the controls and that's probably people's biggest issue with it.

Remember the first reveal when the controls went haywire while they were showing the first gameplay at E3 that year? LOL not the best presentation.

Can't wait to play this in glorious HD!

Ffft, why is this game being given a second chance? It doesn't even look like real "HD" to me. More like they didn't even give it the time of day and just extremely barely barebones "upscaled" and nothing else added. Also, the game was a big flop compared to the game that came out in 2017 and is a major step back (3.67 mil sales globally (352k in just Japan and 2.03m for NA)).

But hey, what do I know? I'm just spitballin' here and the fact you folks consider it trolling is kind of blind assumption, and we all know assuming things is a rather bad idea. Just sayin'.

They're charging full price for it simply because they can, and they know enough of us will pay it.

There is one condition that will cause me to pre-order a game. It must come with a wolf-link amiibo.

I’ve got my preorder in! Here’s to hoping that the new control scheme works, because I found the motion controls on the Wii version terribly frustrating. With this early success in preorders, I’m wondering if we really will get a 3D collection, or just separate releases of the other 3D Zelda games.

But, but I thought the internet said nobody wanted this game?

Snark aside, I preordered yesterday. Just waiting on the joycons to show up for preorder.

I haven't seen the joycons go up anywhere, guess I missed it.

I agree that Skyward Sword HD is overpriced at $60/£50 but it’s just how it is with Nintendo Wii/Wii U re-releases on Switch.

Switch owners probably won’t mind paying that when some don’t have an old console to access it and other factors like playing it for the first time, ppl really wanting traditional controls etc

Not trying to justify this practice, it’s more so thinking of why Skyward Sword HD is still selling so much despite its overly high price tag.

I should be happy about this, but it just reinforces the fact that the general public doesn't care what price a Nintendo game is, regardless of the quality (or assumed quality) of the product. I hope to buy Skyward Sword HD when reviews come out and it can be determined if the price is actually justified.

As a backstory as to how it all started I think Skyward Sword is awesome given that some of the mechanics were gimmicky. Anyone that harshes it (like judging it based on sales numbers alone) without actually having played it through shouldn’t really be spewing opinions but for those who did play it in its entirety and still didn’t like it for whatever reason, I can at least respect your opinion.

I plan on getting it again when it releases despite being $60. I don’t care. It’s just $60.

Amazon US says you can pre-order it still right now. This game should not be hard to find when it comes out if pre-orders are going this well. I am not going to buy a game that comes out in 5 months. Waiting.

Economics 101: Price a product not at what it's worth, but at what people are willing to pay for it.

I thought people did this game was pretty bad? Or is this a case of anything on switch sells?

Jesse Pinkman "He can't keep getting away with it!".gif

@Trajan probably 85% don't care and just want to collect a Zelda game because they like the series. Collecting for Switch is fun and this is a good game, just not the best in the series.

@OctoCallie20 The sales thing is almost entirely due to simply being a late life release. It naturally wouldn't have sold much more than Twilight Princess and BotW did on their home platforms (GC and Wii U respectively), and in fact it outsold Majora's Mask on N64. Not sure why people treat 3.67 million as bad sales anyway, it isn't in the slightest.

Sales aren't really a testament to public opinion on quality anyway--Kirby Planet Robobot is one of the worst selling mainline Kirby games despite being considered one of the best, and the ever-so-controversial Paper Mario Sticker Star sold better than the worshipped N64 and GameCube installments.

@badmotorfinger74 Me too I'm hoping for a 3D collection! I'd be way more inclined to buy like I did with Mario All Stars.

FACE POLLUTION!!

Why would Nintendo ever need to try? Whatever they throw out there people buy it all up.

@FragRed the internet people are the people mostly buying it. Ninty sent the email out with the info, but i think the preorder week 1 crowd mostly is from within the bubble. Myself inclusive. I didn't preodrer, but I'll buy it because I do love SS and would like to play it with normal controls. They had me at the soundtrack

@AnnoyingFrenzy that's new economics and is what has destroyed the world. Old economics was charge cost plus margin.

Very much looking forward to it, but didn't pre-order. Will probably just pick it up at Walmart in store for $10 cheaper, like I did with 3D World + Bowser's Fury.

Nintendo is learning once again that full price for remasters is ok.

@Crono1973

They never forgot!

Nintendo become the most complacent company on the planet when they are doing well. When their back is against the wall they are the most creative company on the planet. When they are on top they gouge as much as they can.

I will be voting with my wallet this year.

This ultimately proves that the people who speak out against Skyward Sword are the minority and ironically are the loudest.

Still, if you're planning to skip out on this and you haven't played it before on the Wii, don't skip it. You're only missing out on one of the greatest stories in the entire Zelda franchise

Waiting until companies announce any pre-order bonuses

I would've preferred a port of Link Between Worlds, Twilight Princess, Windwaker, Ocarina, Majora... pretty much any Zelda game except Skyward Sword. Seriously, the Imprisoned is only slightly less obnoxious than the Temple of the Ocean King.

The beauty of living in Moscow is that Switch cartridges are always in stock and easy to find. Russians have zero taste in videogames, so they ignore Nintendo and leave all the good stuff to me. They only buy videogames in which you get to slice body parts off, burn people alive with a flamethrower, or shoot them to a bloody pulp with a kalashnikov. I often advise them to see a good psychiatrist, but they always get offended and threaten bloody revenge.

I didn’t buy Link’s Awakening new. I bought a used copy for just under $45. I am more tempted to buy Skyward Sword new, but will probably get a physical copy from Walmart for $50.

If you don’t want to collect it, you could always buy a physical copy new, play it, and then turn around and resell it. You will get at least 2/3rds of your money back (and probably more).

@vyseofhr

Selling an updated Zelda game such as Skyward Sword HD at MSRP isn't price gouging.

What you folks fail to understand is that Nintendo rarely undervalues their IP's.

The cost of Skyward Sword HD as a complaint is relative, and it seems that people are willing to pay full price to play a Zelda game.

Nothing new.

@TheWingedAvenger In fairness, COD and such are much more popular in Canada than nearly all the retail games I purchase (most recently - Cadence of Hyrule, Catherine Full Body, Ori and the Blind Forest...)

Are Canadians also violent? Am I? (All of my recent games do feature violence or suffering...) I doubt most Russians are that bad; your comment does come across as mean, you know.

Sixty dollars.

Just to goes to show(once again) that the internet rage mobs are in the minority. I'm getting SS HD to experience the game with standard controls.

@ModdedInkling
That game was on the Wii and underperformed resulting in BoTW.

I like how Aonuma did a bit of revisionist history in the latest Direct, claiming that Skyward Sword was a precursor to Breath of the Wild. Added a touch of class.

Isn’t he something? It’s very transparent what he is doing.

I’m trying to imagine the Nintendo Board meeting. Nintendo is very serious about their business side. They can see the sales of Breath of the Wild. Breath of the Wild is selling better than, I believe, every prior Zelda game sales all combined. The Board would be saying, “WTF!? Why didn’t we do this sooner?” Clearly, they would be saying, “This is what Zelda is going to be now.” I can’t imagine Nintendo allowing Aonuma to take Zelda back into the where he led it.

Perhaps Aonuma was called before the board. How would he answer to Breath of the Wild’s success and his own many Zelda games’ tepid sales? Apparently, he would sound like he was in the direct. “My Skyward Sword gameplay was the foundation for Breath of the Wild.” I don’t remember Skyward Sword being a blockbuster hit. I remember everyone hating it, and many did not even bother finishing it. Aonuma’s philosophy for Skyward Sword was “The Entire World is a Puzzle.” Interesting how that sentiment is totally gone from him now.

Aonuma has admitted he is not a FAN of Zelda. He didn’t like Legend of Zelda, Zelda 2, and preferred to cut grass in Link to the Past. Aonuma has been controlling the Zelda franchise for nearly a quarter century. It’s time for someone else to do it.

The way how gamers respond to Breath of the Wild is exactly how gamers responded to The Legend of Zelda back during NES Era. Everyone in the NES Era was familiar with Legend of Zelda. It doesn’t mean they all owned it. But they all knew what the game was, and what it represented. The game wasn’t really a game. The game transformed your game console into some fantasy world you could explore in. Did you know, delightful reader, that gamers only referred to Legend of Zelda as both its title and genre being the same? “That game is like Zelda,” as if Zelda were its own genre. Yet, it was!

Today, we say, “It’s like Breath of the Wild.” We don’t even really say ‘Open World’ much. A game can come out today and say, “I play like Breath of the Wild,” and immediately sell copies left and right.

In the past, many game companies copied and imitated Zelda to sales success. Neutopia series on the Turbographx-16 comes to mind. Today, NO ONE copies Zelda. Only one game I can think of did which was Okami (which was a sales disaster for the company). No one said, “This game is like Skyward Sword.” No one was excited about Zelda.

If Breath of the Wild was the successor to Skyward Sword, why the radical changes everywhere else? Why did Link lose his green hat? Why was Hyrule destroyed? Why was the linear game design shattered? Why was the brand reset if Aonuma was doing such a good job?

If Skyward Sword was so great, we’d have seen a Skyward Sword 2. But we’re getting Breath of the Wild 2 because it was Breath of the Wild that sold, not Skyward Sword. For the interest of Zelda and gaming, Aonuma needs to hand the reigns over to someone else. Aonuma has had over TWENTY FIVE YEARS, and he has little to show for it. Enough!

@NEStalgia bingo in regards to economics.

Nintendo and Apple make use of that heavily.

@JuiceMan_V Thanks, but telling me I “don’t understand” both clueless (given that you know precisely nothing about me or what I do for a living), condescending, and totally symptomatic of how tonedeaf comment threads are.

Yes, Nintendo do gouge, when they can get away with it. I made no specific reference to SS HD although I do think this product is overpriced. Miitopia. The Famicom Detective games. All MRSP. That’s not refusing to undervalue, that’s artificially inflating value because Nintendo for better or worse know their audience and know that they can charge the maxium possible price and people will still pay it. Like someone said above: Economics 101.

They are a business and only work hard for your money when they have to. Wii U got a stack of classic games because Nintendo were under pressure. Switch had a great first year because it was make or break.

Nintendo know they have an insanely loyal fanbase who lap up everything they produce. And there’s nothing innately wrong with that. And you are correct, complaints are relative. But I have been buying Nintendo for nigh on three decades now, and have a pretty good feel for their value proposal. And in the case of Zelda, charging €60 for implementing button controls is not a practice I want to encourage.

@SalvorHardin but didn’t Anouma make OoT and MM? Those games were really good. He also made BOTW...

Skyward Sword is worth the double dip. Hope they add content to it like they did with Bowsers Fury. Some additional places to explore in the clouds would be nice.

When people sill buy this kind of game at full price, why would nintendo bother to make quality games? If there are enough people to buy overpriced old games, there is no reasons for nintendo to make new games. Why would anyone be shocked they didn’t give anything new in Direct?

This game's a 50/50 for me right now, I do want to upgrade my copy and try a regular control experience (liked the waggle swordplay, but hated how motion was used for pretty much everything, even when regular controls would have been more pleasant for that particular bit of gameplay >.<)......

But they didn't say anything about streamlining the experience and I really like this game, but boy! Does it have some excessive padding >.<

Fix that and I'm all in!

At this rate Nintendo could port over Star Fox Zero for $60 and everyone would complain about it while simultaneously clicking the “preorder” button

Glad I got my order in

Nintendo get lazy when they are doing well, the only reason we got so many great games on wii-U and year 1 switch was because they had to push for sales.
Look what's happened now the switch is selling well, they have fallen back into a comfortable groove and are simply coasting on previous work knowing people will buy it regardless.

@SalvorHardin
I don't think I need to be reminded of Nintendo's best-selling home console and the sales of Skyward Sword. My whole comment revolves around that, actually.

But hold on just a minute. Where exactly are you going at with that long paragraph about Eiji Aonuma? You're clearly going way over your head with how much thought you're putting into this situation, coming off of a simple segment of history in a Nintendo Direct.

To put it simply, why do you want Eiji Aonuma out of Zelda? Is it for the benefit of classic Zelda or the benefit of BotW?

well, looks like REAL GAMERS do not mind spending 10 dollars more for a great game. I love it when the whiners lose.

Egoraptor in shambles.

@vyseofhr

"Yes, Nintendo do gouge, when they can get away with it. I made no specific reference to SS HD although I do think this product is overpriced. Miitopia. The Famicom Detective games. All MRSP. That’s not refusing to undervalue, that’s artificially inflating value because Nintendo for better or worse know their audience and know that they can charge the maxium possible price and people will still pay it. Like someone said above: Economics 101"

Oh! So basically you agree with me.

Nintendo rarely devalues any of their IP's.

What you think they're worth, however, is a different story.

Just don't throw out the term "price gouging"when you're not using it correctly.

As a newcomer to the intends switch, I am going to wait until I finish my soon to arrive Breath of the Wild before I tackle another Zelda game. Breath of the Wild will be my first ever Zelda game. Plus it also gives me time to see if there will be any preorder bonuses for Skyward Sword.

@OctoCallie20 It's not always about selling units. It's about breaking even. For example, BOTW needed 2 million copies to break even and recoup development costs. And with the scope of that game, you honestly think Skyward Sword selling 3 million units wasn't a success for Nintendo?

Comparing both titles is insane. Skyward Sword was released on the Wii's last legs. Compare to BOTW? Being a launch title to a hyped-up console that was advertised everywhere. Every mother, father, and kid knew this game, and the Switch was coming out. Of course, it outsold Skyward Sword.

But, what do I know? You're the expert on this sort of stuff. I'm just an idiot on the web.

Don't be smug when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

I think we have clearly established by now that ‘Gamers making a fuss on the Internet’ does not much affect ‘what actually happens in the market’ especially where Nintendo are concerned.

I wasn't that impressed by the HD footage. If I want to play it again, I'll just play it on the Wii.

@SalvorHardin

That is a really strange post. Only in Nintendo fan world could the Director of one of the Companies biggest series, having just pulled off an attempt to revolutionise and modernise Zelda (like he did in 1998), resulting in the biggest selling Zelda ever, one of the most critically acclaimed games ever and a game good enough to launch a successful Console have done ‘ENOUGH’ and be a total disaster and need to resign.

@MsJubilee
"Don't be smug when you clearly don't know what you're talking about"

70% to 90% of the comments on the internet are in that concept; "Everyone makes themselves known about everything, but more than half the world really knows absolutely nothing"
And the worst and funny thing is that all discussion, fight and conflict on the Internet is for absolutely NOTHING.

@electrolite77 it's going to be interested to see how SS is received by those who's first Zelda game was BotW.

My mum bought a switch (she has never played a games console in her life before) to play Animal Crossing with my sister and also ended up picking up BotW.
Talking to her yesterday, she said that she's going to pick up SS because she had so much fun fishing and exploring in the "Old Zelda". She effectively plays BotW like Animal Crossing without the villagers, (literally as she hasn't done any of the quests but has just collected outfits and gone around hoarding mats) so is going to be surprised when she plays SS for the first time. I'm not saying anything to her, as I'm intrigued to find out how she views the more traditional games coming at them from the other side.

@SalvorHardin @Trajan Aonuma made MM, WW, SS, TP and generally the ds and 3ds games.

Technically he directed OoT but miyamoto was really still the principal on it, Aunuma had training wheels on still. Similar for BotW, after SS bombed Miyamoto stepped back in to right the ship and was really the principal in the overall design of botw in the early planning, then turned it back over to Aonuma for the day to day. So it's fair to say Miyamoto did the most successful loz games up to send including botw.

But Aonumas games are still exemplary on their own. SS is fantastic but different. It didn't bomb because it's a bad game. It bombed because it launched on a weird console core gamers abandoned, and the causal audience it lured wasn't interested in loz. And in top of that required a peripheral, and it was a peripheral that wasn't in stock ever. And at the point the console was otherwise abandoned anyway.

Of it launched on 3ds it would have sold better, ironically.

I remember in 2002 when Wind Waker was first shown. That also had a hate brigade (due to the toon like graphics). That is now considered a favourite by many.

So all the "$60 BUCKS FOR A DECADE OLD PORT!!?!?" crowd are the whiny, bitchy minority then?

Thought so. Back into your holes until the next direct guys.

@JuiceMan_V Ha! No, I don’t agree with you. You quite plainly lack reading comprehension skills as well as candour when responding to others. Acknowledging part of your point isn’t the same as agreeing with it.

@Kaori-chan Yep. I don’t see why it’s even a debate. Nintendo are the most capable game developers on the planet. They are also (perhaps aside from Disney) the company that most coasts on nostalgia when the going is good and use it as an excuse to do as little as possible.

Seems to be back in stock for UK.

@MsJubilee "Don't be smug when you clearly don't know what you're talking about."

Ok, let's take a look at how Aonuma and even the Zelda fans handled it at the time:

•"Producer Eiji Aonuma would later confirm that criticism of Skyward Sword's linear structure and lack of exploration had directly resulted in the development of Breath of the Wild."
•"Skyward Sword had been released the year prior with one of the largest marketing campaigns in Nintendo's history and only sold 3.6 million units worldwide—far less than Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, and also coming up short of The Wind Waker."
•"The game stirred controversy among The Legend of Zelda's audience in the west through its linearity, excessive tutorials, and lack of an overworld. Skyward Sword was a game that didn't cater to any single audience particularly well—veteran gamers in the west or more casual gamers in Japan. Negative feedback for the game would make the development team re-examine the Zelda series' identity once more, as they had done following the release of The Wind Waker."
•"Skyward Sword didn't know who it was designed for, neither capturing the exploratory essence of Zelda nor appealing to Nintendo's casual audience."
•"Following the release of Skyward Sword, series producer Eiji Aonuma learnt that players weren't happy with the linear, restrictive nature of the game."

...Huh, look at that. And that's just from the "Development of The Legend of Zelda Series" page on Zelda Wiki.

I like to do this sort of research stuff for intrigued, yet fun, interest if it interests me or such once in a while.

Nintendo haters lose once again.

And this is coming from someone who isn’t even buying the game.

@NEStalgia Interesting. That would explain why OoT is a rehash of ALTTP.

Had no idea Shiggy was the lead in BOTW. Why is Anouma in all of the interviews and press stuff? Not going to lie, I did not like WW or TP. ALBW was good though. MM was amazing.

I’m looking forward to giving this game a go but I won’t pre order, learned that lesson a long time ago. Wonder if they’ll add any new content like they did with xenoblade or 3D world?

Obviously they only had a small number of pre-ordered.

I think Amazon and Nintendo are selling us hype so we order rather than miss out.

"Oh, I wish Nintendo releases a Zelda pack with WW, TP and SS, all in a cartridge for 60!"
*Nintendo releases only SS for 60 bucks
"Wow amazing Nintendo! This is the way. Preordered already."

People really are funny xD.

Looks like the scalpers are at it again

I won't be getting it. I think paying £30 maximum would be more reasonable. If they remastered it from the ground up £50 would be justified.

@AnnoyingFrenzy “Economics 101: Price a product not at what it's worth, but at what people are willing to pay for it.”

But isn’t what people will pay for it exactly what it’s ‘worth’?

Money is a made up concept attributing a value, or worth, of one made up item (special paper, metal in a certain shape or numbers in a bank) to a product or service. If most people are willing to pay a certain value for it, then that is what it is ‘worth’.

Regardless of the semantics - for me, and many others it seems, the entertainment this will bring is well worth £50/$60 and exceptionally good value for the number of hours of joy it will bring.

I generally never pre-order but this is a known quantiy, plus Nintendo games hardly go down in price, and can be had for less if you shop around (£42.95 at Shopto.)

@Trajan when they started botw back as a WiiU game, Miyamoto was still running the day to day at EAD. He was heavily involved directly, rumor and interpretation of his interviews suggested it was him kind of righting the ship after the SS sales dud, though Nintendo being Nintendo, that was never confirmed.

We even have Miyamoto doing most of the presenting of the game that first E3 we got to see it, with Aonuma kind of "the other guy". But even before his change to "creative fellow"and Takahashi taking over the day to day, Miyamoto was moving more behind the scenes and stepped out if botw and other projects.

Aonuma talked about that back during release interviews saying the Miyamoto was very involved in the early parts, and it had an impact on the team afterward with employees always second guessing everything and always asking "what would Miyamoto say?" So even after he stopped working on it directly, the project was already cemented in the Miyamoto mindset.

Aonuma was probably the lead for the majority of the duration of development.... But only after Miyamoto set up the vision and direction it should take.

I quietly laugh every time anyone rants about how Miyamoto should retire. Nintendos bold reboot that shook the industry was still him! Without him every game will be kirby star allies

Never had a Wii. Games were the furthest thing from my mind during that era. Retail stores always sell it cheaper than the price people are crying about. I get to try a Zelda game I've never played before, plus it saves me buying a Wiimote+ and the Wii version for my Wii U, when I can play a superior version on my Switch anywhere.

Decisions decisions...

@OctoCallie20 I think SS's 3.6 million was a combination of requiring the Wiimote+ peripheral and launching at the tail end of the Wii's lifespan.

There was the special edition, but in general selling a game which doesn't come with the attachment used to play it creates a barrier. They really should've included the attachment in the non-special editions.

I suspect the Switch version simply being playable out the box may do much better than generally expected.

You just made me pre-order it NL! You made me 😂 same fear as the Super Mario Allstars collection but I'm sure they'll have loads of copies of this moving forward

@NEStalgia lmao

Thanks for the info. I do wish Shiggy wouldn’t be so opposed to story.

I said this before, we are the reason Nintendo is pushing ports and remakes over new IP right now. They know we will pay top dollar out of nostalgia, so why release this as a $20 virtual console game when they can get $60 out of it by up-ressing the assets and adding in normal controls? Nintendo could remake Urban Champion and there would be people lining up to throw $60 at it.

All companies have caught on to this and are milking their past IP. This is why there is no virtual console and NES/SNES online is so pitiful. We have collectively told them we will happily pay more for Collections of ROMs and lazy remakes.

I have to ask why pre order? Why not buy it when it’s available ther will be plenty of copies don’t give in to fear! Xxx

@the_beaver

Who are you quoting?

@Trajan

Miyamoto was definitely involved in BOTW but I don’t think he could be in any way described as ‘the lead.’

https://kotaku.com/when-miyamoto-first-played-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-h-1793017234

https://nintendosoup.com/shigeru-miyamoto-comments-on-his-involvement-in-breath-of-the-wild-believes-the-only-creator-is-god/

https://zeldauniverse.net/2016/06/19/miyamoto-taking-more-of-a-back-seat-for-breath-of-the-wild/

Physical all the way! and i haven't pre ordered it yet but I'm 100% getting it.

@WiltonRoots,

Don't be using that kind of logic on here my friend, it's a blatant cash grab, and nothing else, people seem to forget that until Breath of the wild 3D Zelda games have not been stellar sellers, and like some have said Skyward sword only sold around 3.6 million copies, but in all fairness a fan favorite like the Wind waker only shifted around 3 million on it's original cube release, and around 2.33 million on it's Wii U remaster.

So now Nintendo have a big platform with a pretty good software ratio, so they will always release a game that's only ever been available on it's original console, as much as I would like the wind waker and twilight princess, I feel they have been released more than enough, not that Nintendo will not bring them out again on the Switch, it's just too much of a good thing after the success of breath of the wild.

I'll give it a few months until after it's out and scout a copy on ebay thanks.

@Darknyht

You’re right, people will pay for old games. This has been clear for a few years. That’s because Games are like Films, Music, Books etc where many people want to enjoy their favourites over and over and will buy them repeatedly especially if new technology improves the experience. Throw in others who haven’t played older games before whether because they’re new to the industry or didn’t have the system it was on or just missed it and there’s a huge market for upgraded old content. The signal from the market is pretty clear.

@Dr_Lugae See, I disagree with you.

I don't think it'll do that well and may even nosedive as buyer's remorse ends up settling in and folks tossing the game away. But that's just me.

@johnvboy Yep I mean if they brought out Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD on the Switch I would most likely skip them as I beat and enjoyed both on the Wii U - and I don't think the Switch version would be able to replicate or top the smooth inventory control that the Gamepad allowed for.

Again it's a lot of assumption in some commenters' parts that everyone has played exactly the same games as them, owned all the same consoles as them, and feel as ripped off as they do. Wrong.

@OctoCallie20,

I think we will find that it's just you.

I don’t bother with preorders anymore. On my switch I’ve gone entirely digital so I’m not worrying too much, plus Nintendo first party games very rarely see a price drop

I am really starting to think that a big amount of nintendo fans lost the value of money.
Activision released the trilogy remakes of Crash and Spyro both for the base price of 40 euro.
Sega recently released the remasters of Yakuza 3, 4 and 5 all for 20 euro each or 40 euro in a bundle with all 3 included.
Grasshopper Manufacture released the Killer7 remaster on pc and released No More Heroes 1 and 2 remastered on switch all for 20 euro each.
And some nintendo fans call people who consider 60 euro overpriced for a upscaled wii port "internet rage mobs". like @KryptoniteKrunch did XD

This is actually awkward for me as I really love Zelda games pre-BOTW. This was one of two announcements from the Direct that actually caught my interest and it is a damn port. The 60fps is fantastic as that is new to series, but the graphical upgrade doesn't look significant, and whilst button controls are nice, I never had a problem with the controls in the first place.

On principal, I am still not gonna buy this, until I find someone selling it cheap enough. Might take a while it being a Nintendo game but eh... I am sure they can do without the money.

@WiltonRoots,

Well Wind waker was released on the Wii and Wii U, one of which had a massive install base, only issue was the majority were more casual gamers, enticed by the motion control games, great evidence of this are the Mario galaxy games.

The first game was shown with a motion control element, but at it's core was a traditional Mario 3D game, it sold around 13 million copies, when the second Galaxy game came out the casuals were not going to be bitten twice, and the game solod around 7.4 million copies.

The Switch is pretty much a perfect scenario for Nintendo, a good install base of people who will buy all types of games, and in particular seem to like Nintendo's first party offerings.

Even a niche game like Pikmin 3 has sold around 2 million copies, the original games I don't think even broke a million sales, and the Wii U release was around 1.27 million, which in fairness did start Nintendo's recent trend of decent software to console ratios.

@MS7000,

I have always thought that games like Skyward sword and the Wind Waker have pretty much timeless art styles, and to be honest age much better than the more realistic looking games, as long as they give them an HD lick of paint I am o.k.

I may wait for this as well, already have enough games to play on my Switch.

@johnvboy
"Well Wind waker was released on the Wii and Wii U"
I assume you mean Twilight princess instead of wind waker, since wind waker only released on gamecube and wii u, while twilight princess also released on the wii. Skyward Sword also released on the wii.

@electrolite77 TONS of people, here in this website, for example. Before the game was announced, of course.

Whether can I pre order the joycons in the US? I don't really care about pre ordering the game.

@MajorTom This. But then again, the Switch releases I tend to find always has an extra £10/$10 on top anyway even with the remasters, so perhaps the problem is that unless you play on other consoles also, you probably won't be exposed to the good value. Using Yakuza specificially, I always find it amazing how you can buy 0 through to Kiwami 2 for about £6 on PS store. The only comparable thing I can think of on Switch is Mario&Rabids which I see for about £11 on occasion, but it probably only goes so cheap because of Ubisoft.

@johnvboy They kind of do have timeless art styles, but I feel that doesn't help SS HDs case because the improvement isn't as noticable... which is strange because Wind Waker HD looked a lot better even if it was just bloom effect, it looked more colourful.

Regarding Switch games to play, can't say I have that problem, heck if anything, I have the opposite. =P

@Medic_Alert Nintendo's pretty much got the charts covered until fall/holiday 2021 when stuff like FIFA 22, Horizon Forbidden West and CoD 2021 arrive.

I really didn't enjoy Breath of the Wild that much and was really excited when Skyward Sword was announced in the direct. I can't wait personally.
I missed proper temples in BotW and hear that SS has some great ones including one of the best in the series.

Believe it or not, not everyone has the same opinion on Zelda despite all of the white noise that the internet produces making it appear that way.

I can't even find anywhere that lists the joycons in the UK and the game is in stock on Amazon.
I only really want to pre-order the joycons (unless there's a good bundle deal)

How people value things varies. I know lots of people on here are mortified at the idea of a game that required little work being charged £50 for... but value for me doesn’t depend on how much work went into it, or how big the budget was. For me it’s ‘Will I get a lot of gameplay out of this for my money’. If the answer is yes, then I’ll get it.

Skyward Sword is like 40 - 50 hours of Zelda goodness. That’s around £1 an hour. I’m in.

It’s different for different people. But this is why the Mario 3D collection as a bargain for me. That was 2 months of joyful gaming for me

@6thHorizon Be warned that the stamina meter and crafting in BOTW (two of the things I most disliked about it) are present in Skyward Sword too! Maybe they weren't things you disliked in it though.

@benchan There's rather a lot of assumption in that post. Like it

I'd buy this game for 19.99.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Legend-Zelda-Skyward-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B08X2HNT4D/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Nintendo+Switch+zelda&qid=1613910833&sr=8-1

Amazon UK seem to have pre-orders open again.
Personally I'm waiting to see if the Official Nintendo Store offer some sort of pre-order bonus (steel book would be nice).

So if it isn’t sold out in the US, UK and Australia... which Amazon are we talking about? It isn’t actually sold out anywhere I can see.

People are still pre-ordering eh? Probably we need a few more cyberpunks.

Not in a rush to pre-order as have played Skyward Sword twice already. Think I'll get it eventually, at least there's no time limit on this one.

I loved the motion controls when rolling bombs, swinging the sword, etc but that mine cart sequence where you had to shake to jump. I failed so much I had to give up. It was the same with the pipe blowing late into Spirit Tracks.

I'll keep an eye on this to see how it works with the joycons in handheld mode but there's no way I will pay £50 for a remaster. This isn't Final Fantasy 7. That was worth it as it was practically a completely different game.

I was watching a Dreamcast Guy video and he made a good point about Nintendo pricing. It's too much. I've reluctantly accepted new games like Zelda BotW and Animal Crossing being up to 50 pounds but this is why I haven't played several Wii U remasters/ports for a second time. They cost more than they did on Wii U over five years ago. That is just unacceptable and I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.

I never experienced playing this on the wii so playing it for the first time will be fantastic.
Also pretty sure other zelda titles will be added at some point.
I'm not surprised with the €59.99 price tag, i'm a little bit disappointed it isn't cheaper with it being a remake. But its zelda after all and i want to play it day one.

@Trajan I am of the opinion that most people who hated on this game are kids who never played it or people who were not good at it, and in today's game world if a game is too hard for someone it's obviously a terrible game. I thought the controls were perfectly fine when it first released and even consider this one of my favorite Zeldas. Obviously there are different opinions on everything but I feel on the internet its the people that hate everything you hear the most from. Anyway Zelda as a series is always excellent quality and any mainline Zelda is usually worth the asking price if you hold it up against some other games out there that are broken or unfinished.

I think I will get this. I've read some aspects are disappointing but that the dungeons really shine. I haven't played the traditional Zelda formula in ages and this is the only main series game I have not played at all.

Hard pass, just like Donkey Kong TF, Mario 3d World, and about 50 other ported old games I can just dig this out of my basement for free if I want to play it again. This new lazy, greedy Nintendo the Hutt is not getting my credits for old rehashed games. And if you preorder this because of "scarcity" go check out your local retailer where they have 6,000 copies of "limited" 3d Mario all stars, yet another low effort cash grab from the last few months. Shameful.

The guy who destroyed a ton of Rosalina Amiibos has returned. He bought all of amazon's inventory to do the same thing to these games. I wonder who influenced his head space.

So glad it is doing well with pre orders. It's one of my favorites in the series and always hated on for motion controls. Hopefully the new control option will work for more people.

Have fun spending an extra $10 when they can get it in store at Walmart for $50.

Wow, all of those people happy to spend $60 on a ten year old game that a lot of them have already played.

This was the only thing that really caught my attention in that bore of a direct and that's because I've never played it and I'm really itching for a new actual zelda experience after the sour taste BotW left in my mouth

But that pricing is a huge rip off so i won't be buying it right away if at all. So i guess I'll just continue to pirate their 3ds games, and see if any of their switch games go down in price. But if it doesn't oh well, I'm used to my switch collecting dust anyway

Edit: oh yeah ill likely even be able to sell my switch at full price or more in the future, considering ninty fans are ok with being ripped off lmao

Imagine buying a very average Wii game for 60 dollars.

And then people wonder why Nintendo's greed is unmatched. Anyway, I'll definitely be skipping this even though I have never played it.

And this is also why we don't have virtual console anymore ladies and gentlemen.

I've preordered. Never played this game, so I'm excited, even though it seems to be the least liked 3D Zelda.

@the_beaver Nintendo fans are members of a cult and nothing Dear Leader does can ever be wrong. They twist themselves in pretzels explaining why being able to spend $60 on a 10 year old game is a privilege and everyone should praise Nintendo for the feast of thin gruel they've been served.

One of the cult members told me that NSO is superior to PS+ because Sony only gives out old games. Not like the "brand new" 35 year old roms that Nintendo offers.

@CromAstronomy congratulations! You get the award for Most Obnoxious and Condescending Post on the internet for today.

I'm neither a kid or bad at SS and it was my least favorite Zelda ever. The hand holding, linearity, bland story, motion controls, empty overworld, unskippable dialog, and repeated boss battles made this Skyward Slog. Everyone knows this game was devisive, even Nintendo.

No need to panic about Nintendo pre-orders in the UK.

We have the Nintendo Official UK Store.

Awesome News! Well Deserved! Another Masterpiece I'm buying on Day 1!

The original version of this game is still available for £17.99 on WiiU (digital download).
Love Nintendo but this is Skyward Robbery!

If you don't want to pay $60 for this, go to Walmart and pay $50 for it instead.

@NinjaWaddleDee imagine wasting money on lame call of duty games every 2 years and lame madden games every year 😒

@Trajan The #1 issue with the game was the controls, which is (supposedly) resolved. The #2 issue (Insane Handholding) remains at large though... But apparently controls alone was enough to convince many people.

@machinepaul But only a few of us own a Wii U and the Wii is ancient history in console terms.

Personally, I'm looking forward to playing SS again in HD and without motion controls.

Fingers crossed they'll also add a few gameplay improvements like they did with WW and TP. Reducing the padding and how annoying Fi is would be a good start.

I won't buy this for 60 bux. I haven't played it but my backlog of games is 10 strong and I'm going to wait it out knowing it will never go on sale.

@Nintendan64 Read my mind

@Cheez Best Buy and Gamestop

@CromAstronomy Yeeesss your absolutely right. Because only kids complain about bad games. Adults blindly love everything and automatically lose the ability to judge what they do or don't enjoy.

@SnesSwitch I don't do that. But it's not fair to compare COD to this or Madden. With COD, although the formula is similar, each year is quite different than the previous, as they have 3 teams working on it, alternating every three years. Nintendo literally just sold 3 retro games for 60 dollars with Super Mario Allstars. Why spend 60 bucks on ONE old game like this.

@MajorTom,

To be honest I do get a little confused with all the releases and re releases, I guess my point was Skyward sword had only been released on it's original console.

@NinjaWaddleDee because they are Masterpieces, that are worth purchasing!

Anyone describing Skyward Sword as "an average Wii game" needs their head read.

Just let people be, their purchasing decisions have nothing to do with you nor affect you on any way.

Move on.

“I don’t think this is good value so I’m not buying it”

This is OK. ✅✅✅

“I don’t think his is good value so nobody should buy it and anyone who does is a shill for a greedy corporation”

This is not OK.❌❌❌

Hope this helps

@CromAstronomy

Or it could be that they didn’t like it. Kids, adults, good at it, not good at it, doesn’t matter. Just didn’t like it.

Nintendo's pricing portion of their marketing strategy is effective. They charge full price and people buy it because they believe the products are high quality since they rarely go on discount, so Nintendo keeps doing it over and over again. It's a bit circular, but that's how it works.

@15roundTKO

“ This new lazy, greedy Nintendo the Hutt is not getting my credits for old rehashed games.”

Nintendo has always been ‘greedy’ and has always enthusiastically rehashed old games.

@IronMan30

But it can also work for the Consumer. I can buy this for £42.85, knowing that it isn’t coming down in price anytime soon and if I don’t like it I can easily get £30 back for it. That isn’t always have the case. If I’d have preordered Watch Dogs Legion for example and paid full price I’d be lucky to get £15 back for it now.

how many are scalpers after the mario collection shortage

@TheFullAndy Spoilers... yay. 😑

(I don’t care how old it is, probably at least half of us here never played it.)

And i wasn't one of them.

I may buy it but im waiting too see how it controls. I never enjoyed waving my arms around to play games on the Wii and i hated this game more than most others for it.

I wanna see how it'll be in handheld mode, so I'm definitely not about to pre order that.

@nooneinparticular I solemnly swear 2 or 3 users in these comment sections must be paid brand ambassadors funded by Nintendo.

There’s gonna be a lot of disappointed people.. skyward sword wasn’t great

It’s the best Zelda game

@BlubberWhale

Well it is a decade old so I also don't care.

The cost of FOMO is way greater than $60.00

Imagine the kind of grotesque arrogance a company must have, to let the centerpiece of their biggest corporate presentation in 500 days be a 10 year old port of an OK game. It's a sad state of affairs, and made worse when they stick Aonuma out there, then be like LOL you don't get what you all want, here's...something really old.

@TheFullAndy yes realized that and changed my comment. I just enjoyed the decade old part.

I don’t have the global sales data at the ready or anything, but going off what’s published here for JP and UK, I didn’t get the impression Mario 3D Allstars or the Xenoblade remaster are big sellers. Of course they don’t have to be to still be profitable, but I’m not seeing this big demand for full price Wii ports.

This Zelda port is great for the more hardcore fans out there that will gobble up anything Zelda. I think it’s a poor decision though to dredge up this type of stuff at full price when your competitors will be showing the latest and greatest at similar prices.
It would have helped if there were other 1st party releases planned for the next 6 months that are big hitters that do excite a larger audience, but I’m not seeing it.

My concern now is that Galaxy 2 along with the other Zelda HD remasters will now actually be in line for standard full price release as well. Not as filler for Jan or Feb but possibly even during Q3/4 as “big” holiday releases (they did Pikmin last year). I truly hope theres actually something big planned for late 2021 but I’m starting to lose confidence here.

The new version doesn’t seem to be nearly enough of an upgrade to pay $60 for a game I already own.

I paid full price for Xenoblade DE even though my old copy still works fine, but there was a major graphical makeover and a bonus ten hour postgame. Skyward Sword seems to have only increased resolution and framerate. I’m not paying $60 for that.

@15roundTKO

Fair enough.

@Sszx09

3D All Stars has sold over 8 million copies in 4 months.

Xenoblade DE sold over a million in a series of games which doesn't sell over 2 million.

They both made Nintendo lots of money.

@TheFullAndy Well I don’t care that you don’t care lol. JK, don’t get aggro on me, I’m not too sad about the spoiler... a little, but we can still be friends. 😉

(Also I specifically mentioned the game’s age so you wouldn’t feel the need, but you did anyway. 😆)

@BlubberWhale

I mean I don't really consider what I said to even be a spoiler, I didn't name anyone.

@CromAstronomy but people say the game is too hand holdy? With souls borne games being so popular that doesn’t really make sense.

@TheFullAndy 3D world on switch just came out.

@TheFullAndy Yeah I don’t know how much of a spoiler it is. Not a huge deal, just now when I play, I’ll assume a significant character I meet who’s kinda bad, will turn good; my favorite type of story, so that’s why I bothered to comment. Would have been a great surprise... unless it’s super obvious from the start. Anyway, we understand each other, have a great day!

@Trajan

Oops I meant Mario 3D All Stars!

Changed.

@MajorTom Then Activision released Crash Bandicoot 4 for £50/$60 and barely anyone bought it. Perhaps because they told their audience that the value of a modern version of the best Crash Bandicoot games are only worth £10/$13 each, then decided to sell one for £50/$60.

Devaluing a series may offer good value in the short term. But it's not good in the long term for fans. The future of the series depends on people thinking that the games are valuable,.

@electrolite77,

Good point, the evergreen nature of Nintendo games means a healthy resale value.

@TheFullAndy,

Reminds me and my old boss, we both loved movies and would always try and spoil endings for each other, got to a point where we would not tell each other what we were going to watch, just in case either of us had already seen it.

Everyone keeps forgetting that Skyward Sword sold way less because you needed an extra peripheral to play it (Motion+)

That impacted a lot on the sales of the game.

I'm sad. I played this game recently and it's one of the worst 3d-Zeldas and Zeldas in general. Yet, Nintendo barely changes a thing, slaps a 60$-Price-Tag on it and people buy it like crazy. Same with 3D-World. One shouldn't support this lazyness.

@Tandy255 Same here. I buy all of my Nintendo games from walmart. That $10 discount is nice.

@Dr_Lugae
Should the Mario and Zelda franchise not be devalued ages ago when Nintendo released them as select titles for 25 euro on the wii, 3ds and wii u or when they released the download version on the wii u for 20 euro?
I doubt that the price of the Crash trilogy has anything to do with Crash 4 selling less. The trilogy released on more platforms than 4 did and the nostalgia for the old trilogy will always be bigger than a new game with a different art-style.
Also It charted first in the UK sales chart for its first week. And eventually sold at least 830000 copies if you look at game stats (ps4 and xbox one combined), while the PC and Switch version still need to release.
https://www.dualshockers.com/crash-bandicoot-4-its-about-time-physical-sales-are-80-fewer-than-n-sane-trilogy-at-launch-as-per-uk-charts/
https://gamstat.com/games/Crash_Bandicoot_4_Its_About_Time/

To all those uninformed people on here, thinking their opinion is fact.
Why not spend literally a minute on google? There, if you have reading comprehension you will find that both miitopia and famicom detective club are NOT full priced titles. You can find this information in less than a minute.
No need to thank me, although I doubt you will even bother looking, as that would invalidate your wrongful perception that your opinion is fact 😱

the way people are reacting about the price here is this. what if ocarina of time 3d or thousand year door just got simple up rez
would you be complaining about the price then. with price inflation 60 today is actualy less than 50 when it released

@Onkel_Laser I definitely don't! My old Wii and Wii U are letting my kids play all these ported games for free. They love it.

Skyward Sword HD is the best-selling preorder across Amazon (US, UK, FR, DE, ES, etc), Gamestop, and Best Buy.

Safe the say a lot of people are interested.

@electrolite77 that is true, as well. It retains its resell value simply because Nintendo's pricing strategy is effective. Whereas many third-party studios (like your example of Ubi) can't smell those prices. I guess exclusivity plays a small part in that, although that doesn't explain why Rabbids is $15 on what feels like every other week.

@COVIDberry
I just point out the fact that Xbox and PS fans enjoy simulated torture and murder; if they take offense, they're the source of the offense. In 2016, I walked into a videogame store called "Game Republic" in Moscow and asked the shopkeeper why he had 98% Xbox and PS games, and only a handful of Nintendo games (3DS only). He told me that Nintendo wasn't a thing in Russia, so I asked him why Russians only liked games where they brutally slaughter and kill people. He was befuddled. I told him I saw enough violence on the news every day and was interested in games like Mario and Zelda. Next time I went there, he recognized me and told me the Nintendo Switch would be released soon. It's now a 50% Nintendo store!

@Darknyht In a way, the success of remade old games and remasters is an indicator that the industry is out of ideas it can afford to make, and most new AAA games are widely seen as inferior to old games. If they'd drop their budgets down to reasonable levels rather than these $100m monsters, maybe they'd all make creative games again.

At this point Nintendo has become the worst of the pack, and the rest of the pack, even EA, just follows their lead. I miss unsuccessful Nintendo....

@BlubberWhale It's anime cliche 101. If you don't know how it ends at the start, you haven't been paying attention.

Plus, at some point, spoilers really aren't spoilers. We can't pretend Aeris is a big secret forever...

@NEStalgia partially copyright is too long and partially games fell into the same stupidity that Hollywood did after Star Wars. They constantly bet the farm on Blockbusters and use/manipulate the gaming media to shill it to us (unintentionally as they report on what they are allowed to see and interact with). Then they setup “Awards” to give accolades to themselves while ignoring the deplorable work conditions people suffered under to create their blockbuster.

I miss the days where companies experimented with smaller budget titles instead of trying to build the next mega-franchise. As much as I disliked it, Cadence of Hyrule was at least an interesting experiment. It seems like the major publishers have just abandoned the spaces that brought us games like Mega Man, Link’s Awakening, or something weird like Jet Set Radio and Space Channel 5.

@blindsquarel Yes while inflation has grown an average of 2% per year over time, wages has only grown an average of 0.2% over the same period. So it may cost “less”, but we have a lot less buying power to spare to purchase games.

Since I've elected my switch to go full digital, I'll wait till July. But will get it anyways...

Next time I went there, he recognized me and told me the Nintendo Switch would be released soon. It's now a 50% Nintendo store!

@TheWingedAvenger Oooooh. Hahahahaha... wow. Progress!! I hope you feel vindicated.

I'm a little confused, though... I thought the Dendy brought all sorts of games to Russia way back when.

Poor people spending their money on this game right away. Just too early.

@Don It is funny how everyone spends so much more when Walmart is right there! Walmart is so nice for not charging people 60$ for a game. I was lucky for getting my New 3ds XL a little cheaper from there once long ago.

@NEStalgia 😃

@Quarth Same boat.

"We've all played it and hated it! Too expensive!" says a section of the comment section. To which I say "who the hell is we?" I get a feeling this will easily outsell the original. Plus I reckon it will be a much better experience than the original. Not going to let some crying neckbeards stop me from finding out for myself.

@Darknyht Indeed. I hope that ends eventually at the blockbusters mostly bore me. Even Sony's vaunted masterpieces. I've been recently lamenting on push square about gravity rush. Ok their race to move to all blockbusters, only blockbusters (they even compare sales to the box office, directly!) They mostly abandoned smaller games like gravity rush, which is the reason I've bought PlayStations... Their smaller games. They're shrinking Japan studio. Toyama (creator of gravity rush, and silent hill under Konami) left in December. He started an indie making a silent hill type game and commented that gaming has become bigger and the audience wider and to make the kinds of games he that find it's audience rather than appeal to everyone, he had to go that route. A polite way of saying Sony won't make it if it's not going to sell 10 mil in a week.

Nintendo isn't even going for blockbusters now. They have masteres social media viral phenomena and just make trends. I almost prefer Sony's route, though i don't like that either.

MS of all companies has been the only "major" company filling that space with battletoads, ori, The Medium, etc. It's so weird. Indies just don't have to budget to put out that "AA" tier, and majors dont want to. And that was always the best games.

@WiltonRoots this time it doesn't require a $40+ accessory that's sold out in every store for a year other than buying it in a bundle with Sports Resort. And it's not on a console where the average player age is over 65& under 10. . Of course it'll outsell the original.

This was the only one Zelda game I owned that I didn't bother to finish.... And I finished The Adventure of Link.... More than once.

@AnnoyingFrenzy Thats from another game.

@Zequio yes, twilight princess HD. The one game I've pre-ordered.

@Yian_Garuga
I will be buying all first party Switch games from Walmart going forward except for the ones I wait for price drop.

Breath of the Wild has sold 22+ million copies and is by far and away the best-selling game in the series, selling 2.5X more than the next best-selling entry (Twilight Princess).

There is a huge audience of people who were introduced to Zelda through Breath of the Wild and are now looking for another 3D Zelda experience while everyone waits for Breath of the Wild 2.

@Ambassador_Kong Thanks, I strive for the best. Joking aside, sorry if I hurt your feelings not my intention but I clearly irritated with my comment. However considering some of the other posts I see on here I am somewhat flabbergasted that mine was so odious as to incur wrath. Oh well you live you learn.

@NEStalgia I miss the “AA”. Some of my favorite games came from that tier. I miss when Squaresoft had Mana, Saga, Bushido Blade, Final Fantasy Tactics, and weird games like Parasite Eve, Xenogears, and Brave Fencer. Then everything became about Final Fantasy.

The problem I have with this isn’t the pricing. It is that Nintendo is going to look at the release schedule and count this as new content. From the gaming aspect, I really don’t care, as I have tons to play on this system as far as indies, 3rd party and other platforms. But I would like some new Nintendo stuff. That’s why I bought a switch. I think we are going to mainly see ports and remasters for a while.

@Kaori-chan
Nice to see some cherry picking at its finest. Afaik both the famicom games are full remakes. So I guess you was expecting 2 full remakes for the price of 1? I’ve seen a few people who are fans of the series here, who are more than happy with the pricing.
I wasn’t necessarily calling you out, kudos to you, not mentioning Miitopia. However there were a few trying to claim Miitopia and fdc were full price releases, which is not only flat out wrong, it’s also misleading

@WiltonRoots Yeah, the enititlement is strong in this thread (and on NL in general).

@Dezzy And honestly there is nothing wrong with that. In the end is Nintendo a company. And companies need to make profit.

This is a good game, I really enjoyed and finished it. Better than Twilight IMO, but not as good as ocarina.

I won't be double dipping, unless my kids are really keen to play this.

It definitely has some BoTW elements, just with smaller linear levels.

Hopefully the controls transfer across well, as it was heaps of fun to hold the sword "Skyward".

@NEStalgia Yeah, games like gravity rush and the vast amount of Japanese mid tier games were the reason why i played so much on ps. With sonys current course i do not see much point in buying a ps5(if it were available).

@Dr_Lugae i think all Crash Trilogy did was remind people Crash series was never that good.

No point in using this as an excuse to defend Nintendo. Likely many copies were picked up by scalpers.

@NEStalgia Remasters often provide much needed cash flow between big releases so I wouldn't say they are out of ideas and also form part of the marketing for the series.

Nintendo on the other hand are simply lazy porting. Nintendo fans happily voted with their feet for hastily, slapped together emulations of SM64, Sunshine and Galaxy.

@tech7 Heh, I bought the ps5...... And I'm using it to play gravity rush 2....... . Which it unfortunately didn't get any enhancements. I was surprised, a recent poll on PS for what game people wanted to see receive a boost patch, gravity rush 2 was, i believe #2 right behind tlou2, and shockingly, above hzd.

Same for me. I've bought ps for all those Japanese mid tier games that had higher production values then a lot of Nintendo games and a very different feel. They're all but getting rid of it all and focusing on essentially bridging Sony Pictures and SIE into a big media engine. I can't say i don't somewhat enjoy some of their blockbusters, but I don't love them as most seem to. It's depressing seeing those games as the future. It was the dullest part of the platform.

For now, there's still 3rd party Japanese content requiring a ps, but i do wonder in I'll care about ps6 much at all. Ratchet it's the only 1st party I'm really psyched about. But a few exclusive indies are really appealing to me (stray, kena.) Maybe indies can finally move into that aa window soon.

Switch was in track to become my favorite console of all time when it launched. Then it stagnated. And Sony went after the movie crowd. 3ds now remains my favorite. But series x might actually surpass it, shockingly, 9th gen Microsoft feels like 8th gen Nintendo before they went into this weird limbo, from 3ds to early switch.

MS almost blew it by trying to double the price of the online sub last month.... Well see....

@liveswired I wonder how well that trilogy would have sold off it weren't loudly proclaimed limited time only. Nintendos new sales model is HSN. "Only 200 left, call now and have you credit card ready! They're selling out, oh my goodness, down to 175, that's only a hundred and seventy five remaining, folks, don't wait, grab that phone and dial, 1-800...."

Kid at walmart: Oh boy I can't wait to play this video game I'm gonna have so much fun

Unemployed twitter user passing by: You know that is an overpriced wii port right? You are supporting a corrupt company with their hateful practices by purchasing this lazy port. Instead of working on BOTW2, they made this. Despicable, #FreeMelee #GenoForSmash

Is there a bonus? Is it limited? Why just pre-order it?

@NEStalgia Well, while a niche game, gravity rush is well liked by that niche. I kind of preferred the first part, but both were great. But i agree with your whole post.

I hope that the ps brand gets some small crash, similar to the early ps3 days to get Sony back on track.

Yeah the switch is currently stagnating, but at least for me it is still on track to become ny favorite console.

Luckily, many of the games which i enjoyed on ps are no longer exclusive and appear on pc (or switch) and without Sony censorship. And like you said Microsoft could make a move there, the early fail of the xbox one really propelled them forward.

@PBandSmelly Hit the nail on the head. It's like getting advice off the comic book guy in the Simpsons.

@kreko I thought 'the people' didn't ask for this game at all?

or was that just you?

The era of $60 ports is here to stay.

I bought a Wii U to play this game and then a year later it gets remade on switch!!!!!!

This isn't a Wii U port and it shouldn't be $60.

At least the 3D Mario collection had three full games...

This is why Nintendo charges so much...because tons of people will pay.

@Iggy-Koopa Then it doesn't affect you in anyway if people describe the game as average or bad. Just let people gripe about the game and move on.

@Zequio You should really finish it. It has one of the best Zelda endings ever...I almost cried. You learn the creation of the actual "Legend" of the triforce and the Master sword

@COVIDberry
The Dendy was an NES clone and was very popular in Russia, but after that everyone moved to the Sega Mega Drive (just called the "Sega" by everyone here). Then it was all PS and Xbox for the 5th, 6th, and 7th generations. I'm glad the Switch has managed to find an audience though!

@WiltonRoots
Dude you're such a cliche. Have you even played the original to give an opinion? People like you are the reason why we dont get any innovations from nintendo anymore.

@Onkel_Laser You get out of the wrong side of the bed or something? Who's "we"? Chill. It's just games.

I said I've never played it. And now I have an opportunity to have it on the Switch. Pretty straightforward. I'm struggling to understand how that triggered you.

So they've all sold out but they weren't even made available to pre-order in Canada yet. Oh good grief. This doesn't bode well.

Lots of love out there for Skyward Sword! Kudos Nintendo!

However, I hated this game with a passion and only own it because of the Special Edition Wii Mote that I simply HAD to have! 😃

But yeah, announcing SSHD during their Direct didn't curb my disappointment for the absence of a proper BOTW 2 update.

But they did announce Splatoon 3, which IMO, saved the entire Direct! 💜💚💛

@Kaori-chan Nope. You all just don't get business.

I love this game. It's one of my favorite Zelda games, despite its lack of difficulty. However, I'm not falling for the same trap again. I paid full price on Super Mario 3D All-Stars since I love 3D Mario games, only to find out that my nostalgic glasses were making me think it would play as good as Odyssey.

Sorry Nintendo, but I'll wait for video reviews on this one before deciding to pick it up.

@Darknyht
Dude 60 dollars is not gonna set you back that much. the average wage in us is around 15 dollars. that means 4 hours of work gets you the game.and to most people this game is basicaly a new game. skyward sword sold 3.6 mil and botw sold 20 mil, thats about 16 mil that have not played the game. and dont say its on the wii u because no one owns one.

@blindsquarel
It was on the Wii which sold more than a 100 million units.

When they find out how linear the game is they'll wish they didn't buy it. Sale's charts don't tell you return charts.

@MajorTom And I wonder how many of those 100 million units were either returned or left in the attic unused?

@GamerDad66 For the same price and emulation.

@liveswired Forgot about them.

@Crono1973 And Skyward Sword teaches you that you can bang your head into trees to make money instead of going to schol and Link daydreams so much he doesn't realize his own bird is missing till he almost dies.

@Tempestryke Lol no, I'll die on this hill (right next to the blazing pyre of irrational detractors who didn't have any interest in this game yet feel the need to pull it and everything in its orbit down into the flames).

@Iggy-Koopa So your saying that your logic only applies to every one except you and like-minded people and that you don't like when its flipped back around? Not surprising.

Too bad for you. Life doesn't work that way.

@Tempestryke You're just another irrational moaner, no surprise there either.

@MajorToma at the end of its life when everyone was over the wii

@Olddantrucker
When did it get confirmed to be emulation

@Ambassador_Kong You call him obnoxious and condescending, while at the same time, you call every Nintendo fan a "cult member."

What a decent and logical person you are! /s

@blindsquarel It's kinda obvious and Nintendo DOES have a built in emulator for Mario 3D All Stars. Dolphin with 4K textures can do a better job for free!

@PBandSmelly Pretty much what I was trying to say. This is what I mean by Nintendo fans being a cult. If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck.......

@Sszx09 @NEStalgia Nintendo lost it after Iwata died.

@Olddantrucker
This is a three month old article. Why are you commenting this far back. I can’t even respond to your comment because I don’t remember what my og comment was about