Nintendo Is Facing Another Class Action Lawsuit For Joy-Con Drift

You get what you freaking deserve!

Nintendo: Do you guys not have the time to drive to a GameStop to get an $80 pair of chocking hazards? We can't just give free repairs to everyone, and definitely not make an updated model of Joy Cons, no sir.

what games use the ir camera? can't get over that being built in when the sticks are faulty

If you didn't know Nintendo actually loses money every time people buy new joycons so it really makes me wonder why they just can't be bothered to fix the issue.

I have 6 joy cons, I rarely use them as I play my Xbox more. Part of the reason I don’t play my switch is the stupid joy cons. The inputs don’t work half the time if I have my controller resting in my lap. Two of the controllers’ joy sticks perpetually move to the left....I’ve sent them back 4 times and they replaced them with new ones each time. Doesn’t matter, never fixed it.

@ancientlii Nintendo LABO and 1-2 Switch I think are the only ones that use it. I didn’t realize how underutilized it was as hardware.

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Nintendo will probably not solve the drift issue, unless the backlash could end up same way as when Xbox360 got the red ring of dead problems and if Microsoft back then, would ignore it the same way Nintendo ignores the joy-con drift (Microsoft did not ignore it, internally they decided to solve it because it would damage their name because of how large the problem was)

But that is the issue here, Nintendo knows they can get away with it so why solve it?

They will stretch it out as long possible, I still remember how many years it took Sony to compensate for removing Linux support on the PS3, and that while aside from that the PS3 worked fine.

Here we have a crucial design flaw, and yet I expect Nintendo never fixing it, and creating a hell for those that get a Switch when Nintendo their "next big thing" is out.

@C-Threep I fixed the analog for the 4th time on the joy-con of my partner (no warranty anymore) after 3+ years of usage.

Recently replaced mine for the 3rd time after 2.5 years.

And we have a ton of systems, and aside from our N64 nothing has had ever any issues with the analogs, and we use all the stuff a lot (same with 3rd party PC controllers)

I mean even both my PS Vita OLED have same size analogs like Switch does and after 8 years of using 1 (and 6,5 on the other) both have fine analogs, same with my OG 3ds and New 3DS XL (I name those 2 because they are more recent, also I know about reports of PS Vita Slim having some form of analog drift, but I don't have that one, the issue is by far not that widespread and the analogs on OLED and Slim model are of different internal size and design)

@ancientlii I heard 3 games do, but I only know of Labo and 1-2 Switch using it.

@NintonicGamer Kind of ironic to think about, they are so expensive yet have such crucial issue with them.

@ancientlii I believe ring fit uses it to measure your heartrate. Only time i've seen them used and they could easily do without.

@dBackLash @NateM94 @ancientlii

Also RE Revelations 2, swing your hand over IR sensor to reload.

@C-Threep The Pro Controller is a huge improvement, get it for the Switch if you haven't already.

@HotGoomba___Rebrand I own three of those But then you get a gimmicky game like Super Mario Party that only lets you use joy cons and my kids want to play...bleh.

@/nintendo how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!!

I simply don't understand the problem. We bought the Switch in November 2017 and we played heavily every day for almost 2 years, even bringing it on vacation, before I noticed a little drift. Well, I just ordered new sticks and repaired the Joycon for next to nothing, case closed. The problem can't be that big... and none of my friends have any issues, so really, I don't understand...

What annoys me about this is Nintendo’s stone cold silence. It’s as if not mentioning it might make it go away...

I hope they’ve at least made a hardware revision in recent models that solved the issue but I don’t think they’ve even done that.

@Natem94 @ancientlii @shazbot I think RingFit uses it to read your pulse.

With some patience, and watching a few DIY videos on Youtube, you can actually take apart the joy-con, disassemble the drifting control stick, clean it, and problem fixed. Just did one of mine a few days ago again actually. It works like brand new. You can also just order a new control stick for like $3-4, that works too. But it is possible to clean them without costing you anything.

As much as I love Nintendo, I hope they lose this one. Big time.

@Moon Agree. They made me buy another pair of those after just 1 year.

@Park_Triolo I've got 4 pairs of joy con all with the drift issue. That's £200 worth of issue. None of my other controllers have the issue. I've got 3 Xbox One Controllers, two PS4 Controllers, a load of Wii nunchuck and pro controllers and none of them have drift.

I don't believe I'm overly aggressive with controllers. I've tried replacing the sticks, but I could only get the screws off one of the controllers.

I've bought an 8bitdo receiver so I can use my old controllers, but it sucks I've wasted so much money on joy cons. Nintendo should release a new model of joycon that fixes the issue.

@Park_Triolo "It doesn't effect me so the problem doesn't exist"

@Dragonstar the question is, should the consumer have to do that?

@hakjie11 I refuse to buy any more of them. Mine are drifting, my girlfriend's drift... heck, even my pro controller drifts! Nintendo's quality isn't what it used to be that's for sure.

@Dragonstar They are a bit pricey for a product you have to fix yourself.

@Donkey-Kong-Fan different example.

First revision of the Xbox 360 had roughly a 50% failure rate, yet it sold 84+ million units.

(however Microsoft at least tried to fix the issue, extended warranties and redisigned the cooling to fix the issue for the most part)

I like Nintendo a lot, I have plenty of nostalgia with them.

But they are tone deaf and wait until the Switch is off the market (because new system) to be able to fully ignore this.

Also Nintendo knows most of their users, they know most of them will buy anything Nintendo even if it has flaws, they know they will get away with this with silence.

The issue is real sadly, and while I keep my switch because aside from the drift it is a fine system, it gives a nasty aftertaste of what they do.

But that wouldn't be the first time... and they are not the only company being like that, however they are one of the few that are so persistent with it.

Also Google what class action lawsuit means before you point a finger at people "being desperate for money".

The Switch is probably my favourite Nintendo console/handheld so far, but it's also undeniably the worst quality hardware they have ever released. My 2017 launch Switch's Joy-Con coating started to wear and tear after barely 20 hours of Breath of the Wild, sending it in for a check-up would take weeks so I took it for granted back then.

After warranty:

• Both Joy-Con sticks have drift now.
• The SL/SR and lights on the side of both Joy-Con are broken. I never used those buttons before I bought Mario Party and found out the hard way that I had to shell out for a new pair when I bought the game.
• The Switch is bent, apparently caused by heat while playing docked.
• The dock has scratched the sides of the screen immensely over time.
• The SD card slot suddenly broke, after not removing or even touching the card for years. The card won't snap into place anymore.

Just writing this makes me pissed off again, especially since most of these happened JUST after the warranty expired.

@Park_Triolo,

That will not be a popular opinion on here, some refuse to believe there are people that have no issues at all.

In all honesty there is an issue that Nintendo do need to address , but has to how widespread it is, and how many of the 70 million Switch owners is affects is still a mystery.

@WallyWest,

@Park_Triolo never stated that, he said he had owned the console for two years and played it every day, then it developed drift which was repaired, he then stated that none of his friends had any issues.

So he never said the issue did not exist, he simply said how big of an issue could it be.

@Rayquaza2510 360 sure didn't sell 84mil consoles BEFORE Microsoft fixed the RROD (I hear that went until about two years after launch).
However as Microsoft didn't quite have the same rep in gaming yet (I do recall the original Xbox having the reputation as the HARDCORE GAMERZ, by which we mean the 20-something dudebros, console before trying to widen that audience with its successors), it surely would have sunk their console gaming business to not address it.

@johnvboy I have issues, my partner had issues, most of my friends with a Switch have issues.

BUT I do know 2 people with a launch Switch model that did not have any issues at all, I do believe there are people without drift issues, those people really exist.

But what annoys me is that some of those people point a finger at people that have issues, and claim it is BS or come "with solutions".

The analogs physically wear off inside for people with issues, these "solutions" don't solve the problem fully and analog replacement is needed.

Eveything breaks at a certain moment, but 2,3 or 4 analog replacements in 2 to 3 years is ridiculus, especially for €70+ controller.

For people that don't have any issues, BE HAPPY (because it works) and try to understand people that have issues instead of ignoring it and calling it "BS".

I never said to all people I knew with Xbox 360 red ring issue that got their model at launch, that the problem does not exist because my launch 360 never had any issues (it still works after all these years).

No that would be ignorant.

@KingMike the Xbox 360 would never sell 84 million systems if Microsoft ignored the issue.

Also "hardcore gamerz" is a BS term just like "PC Master Race", both created by the internet like a lot of other crap.

I don't understand why Nintendo keeps ignoring this problem, and why they allowed the fault to continue through the different versions of switch (og, V2 and Lite).
I remember when Nintendo were known for innovation and the products came with a seal of quality - this generation they have coasted off of their back catalogue and continue to sell faulty hardware with no thought about the customers.

@Rayquaza2510,

Totally agree with you, and I stated as such when I said there was an issue and Nintendo needed to address it, my question is how big of an issue is it overall, you said you knew people without issues, as other people have also said on various Jocon comment sections, and up to now I have had no issues with my two Switch consoles or any joycons up to now,

I never said people who were having issues were wrong.

@WallyWest Sorry if you feel offended, but I can only describe my experience and as my joycons started drifting AFTER the warranty period, I repaired them myself... actually, it was only one of the Joycons that started drifting at the time.
I never said the problem doesn't exist... I had the problem myself, but 2 years went by with daily gaming before the problem showed up, so in my case I think it's been plain wear and tear. I have 2 pairs of joycons which I have repaired over time and they all function perfectly at the time of writing.

@johnvboy "I never said people who were having issues were wrong."

I did not mean you, sorry if my post did sound like I did.

I meant the people that really say that out loud.

@Park_Triolo I fixed my analogs too by myself after the warranty expired.

But 2 years is too short to be it simple wear and tear, unless design flaw or weak quality (and if it was something like agressive usage only then Switch would not be the only system with these issues)

I find it quitte bad that such expensive controllers break that soon, especially when other controllers and even Nintendo their own Pro Controller do not have this issue as bad the joy-cons do.

(actually this reminds me of the issues with the N64 controller, but even there it seemed less than now with the joy-cons)

I buy a product and expect it to work normally for a reasonable period of time if used normally, stuff breaks after a while but when it does that fast there is another issues with it (design, quality and so on)

Not to attack you, really no but I stopped buying as many Switch games I did because of the fear of again having drift and again having to fix it, and I could play my games docked because both our Pro Controllers work fine... but if the portability aspect it gone, I could game on my gaming PC or other consoles/handhelds instead.

The fear of breaking something with normal usage, I don't think Nintendo wants people to fear that but by ignoring this, some users will do so.

I think they’ve fixed it for the upcoming switch pro and will sweep the problem under the table re the old switches.

@andykara2003 I don't think Switch Pro is even real (that is my opinion)

If any the "Pro" model would probably come out as a whole new system in few years, I could be wrong but I doubt Nintendo even plans a "Pro" Switch for this gen.

But I would love to see them fix this.

The problems a pain in the behind and as older year1/2 joy cons age going happen more. Contact Nintendo and they supposedly will fix them for free according to some sites. I got mine fixed easily but I think was at almost the end of warranty so I was covered either way.

I've had my Switch since day one. I do have joycon drift on both joy cons. Spraying compressed air under the joysticks removes dust and removes the drift (about 90 percent) for a month or two. I respray and they work fine.

@Vsaxo27 that works if dust is the issue.

If wear is the issue that method will stop working after a while, I took apart every broken analog I replaced and there was wear inside them (spawn wave is one of the people that made a interesting video about this, good watch)

@Park_Triolo Ignorance is bliss. I've never broken a bone in my body, yet others have. Does that mean broken bones is a myth? Surely you can build a splint and stick that on your broken arm or leg - case closed.

Most retail shops have stopped selling joy cons. If the switch pro ships with these overpriced broken tings then we should all band together and sue them.
I'll guess that they will release the joy con pro to cover their tracks

1. If you have dust or lint or pet hair around the shelf you set it on, either clean it before setting your Switch on it, that's the main issue. Cleaning your house from dirt/dust works wonders.

2. I have had a friend tell me he has played his Switch Lite for 6+ hours a day since buying one way before the U.S. lockdown in March, and he's had zero problems with Joy-Con drift. Mainly the Lite is supposed to be handheld-only, but still. These two simple things are better than repeatedly buying $80 worth of a replacement set, or better than a freaking lawsuit, which if it takes 3 tries for them to fix it only for them to tell you no, is pretty pointless.

@shazbot @dBackLash @NateM94 @ancientlii
And of course Brain Training for Rock, Paper, Scissors

It’s amazing how many people attack those who are suing Nintendo over this or have experienced drift on their Joy Cons or Pro Controller. This is a documented issue with $80 controllers and some of you are defending the company over the consumer. Why? Just why? Are you Nintendo lawyers in disguise coming here to grief anonymously? Let the lawsuit proceed on its merits and the courts can sort it out. Go learn about drift. Stop attacking random people you don’t know on social media. Stop prioritizing large billion dollar companies over people. Nintendo can fix this if they want to.

@spirit_flame Sorry, but when did I NOT acknowledge there is a problem? I only said that I experienced this problem after 2 years of heavy use and that none of my friends experienced it. That does NOT mean I think the drift problem is nonexistent.

@Rayquaza2510

I completely agree. The hard part is seeing if the issue is indeed mechanical. Best bet for anyone with drift would be to try compressed air first (under the joysticks flaps) before buying, or repairing, new joycons. They are just too expensive to keep buying replacements.

Imagine being Nintendo and just ignoring a clear issue like this. Either they're actually that inept, or they've done a cost analysis and realized it's cheaper to do free repairs and change nothing in production than it is to just redesign them.

Well so far, my launch joy cons have lasted longer than any of my PS3 pads triggers. I once had drift for a whole day on my new 3DS on the nub. Took a recalibration and power down, then back on and recalibrate to fix. It would only be actual drift if the sticks became loose, like the old N64 did (mine are fine for my 64 too, but my mates were wobbly so I fixed his), anything else is more likely firmware or a calibration error when powering on or off. As I haven't experienced the issue myself I wouldn't guess what the real issue is. It must be an issue however as alot of people cite it. Only similar thing was my nephew's Xbox elite controller, shoulder buttons broke and he had a miscalibrated stick, it would turn left when in the neutral dead zone. Had to make the dead zone too large to counter it, so he sent it back. I know for a fact he dropped pizza on it at one point, the grease off the pizza likely got in and messed the sensor contacts.

@Park_Triolo

I’ll see your “no one I know, has had the issue”, and raise you a “every single person I know has had the issue”

Nintendo’s plan is to just run out the clock, while endlessly, fixing joy-cons. It’s just plain madness.

Hold on a minute... You can sue for wear and tear? Man, I need to send my trainers back!!

@koffing Really well said. As much as I love Nintendo products I have to say joy con drift is an unacceptable disgrace especially now that the Switch has been out for over 3 years. Not good enough Nintendo, yet you've increased your profit expectations from 300 billion yen to 450 billion yen. Profits over people and profits over ethics.

@MoonKnight7 So I'll raise you with "I know more people than you who have no problems... and my dad can beat up your dad."

Come on... this is not a contest of who knows the most people with or without problems. Fact is I first experienced problems with my Joycons after 2 years of heavy use and the same goes for my friends with small variations.

AGAIN I would like to point out that I AM NOT denying that there might be a problem, but we were not affected by it, luckily.

I’m just tired of purchasing games based on if it will be affected by drift or not.

Considering Switch Light was launched with the problem in full swing, I can't fathom why they haven't just updated the SKU quietly at this point...I mean, just...why?

@Park_Triolo I manage 7 Switches for various family members and friends. More than 25 joy-cons between them. All but two have been sent back to Nintendo multiple times. The two that haven't been sent back? A 1 month old Switch.

I just sent off eight yesterday. E I G H T. These Switches are predominantly played by younger kids who have no clue why the cursor moves all over the screen or that Link keeps walking when nothing is being pressed. That is just part of the game to them. Nintendo has always replaced them for free - even out of warranty - but I wish there was a true solution. This year alone has seen me send off five repair orders for joy-cons.

@NEStalgia I was in the market for two Lite's, but ended up not getting them due to this problem still being present. Then I would be stuck sending my whole console in for repairs...

@ComposedJam Well now, quite disappointing that you resort to name calling... disappointing and immature. This is obviously not a discussion anymore, where everybody can have their say. If I don't say and think like you, which in turn would mean that I'd have to lie, then I'm not welcome in this forum. Wow, being called an ignorant just because I didn't experience the exact amount of problems like you, is simply mindblowing. Maybe you're jealous?! But allow me to retort: If you'd spent a little more time reading comments instead of verbally assaulting me, then you would have realised that I actually NEVER EVER said that I don't acknowledge the problem. I just described my experience and that of my friends. Actually, funny enough I also described how I got the problem after 2 years of heavy use. I don't think I have to apologise to you for not having problems with my Joycons. I know there is a problem, but it seems some regions are more affected than others, I don't know.

Before you write another comment please 1. Learn some manners and 2. Read before you write.

Yea I don’t understand. I have had the system since launch and play it everyday no drift ever and I bought an extra pair use them too I have never had drift. Curious to how many people have had this and hope I don’t get that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@buggysdad Wow, I don't know how many times I have to say this... I KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM. It just seems my friends and I have been lucky. As I've described countless times now, I also got the problem after 2 years.
I am very sorry that you have that many issues, but fact remains, I didn't and THAT IS THAT.

@NintonicGamer How do you figure they are losing money on them? Because the production cost of those cheaply made controllers is nowhere near what they charge for them at retail.

@Park_Triolo This is what we were arguing against: "The problem can't be that big"...

It is a huge problem, but like others have said, fixing them for free in and out of warranty must be cheaper.

@Donkey-Kong-Fan Is this satire or are you actually THAT big of a clown? LMFAO

@Dethmunk As opposed to the greed at Nintendo? Where they refuse to fix a KNOWN problem. Pretty sure Nintendo's greed trumps the consumers.

I think the problem is not just HOW to fix the problem without changing the design of the controllers but also how to roll it out with little PR damage as possible. Also, what's the scientific reasoning for the drift anyways? Dust? Grinding? Can drift be scientifically documented?

it's odd that my controllers tend to drift more the less i use them for some reason. the drift also tends to only happen when i'm in menu screens so i can still play games without that much hassle.
still, this is an issue that should not of existed especially when you got 3ed party's making switch controllers without this issue

@stevenw45 well the only thing I discovered is the following:

• after opening all analogs that casued drift I saw internal wear
• after opening a 5 year old fine working analog from a OLED PS Vita I never saw same type of wear
• opening a brand new Switch analog and it looked same as the on in the new Vita

Conclusion based on this? Poor design or poor quality analogs are used in the joy-cons.

I do not state as a fact, just based on these 3 points

@Mhayes111387 Here's my source, I'm still confused about it https://gamerant.com/nintendo-switch-joy-con-cost-make/

@Wargoose I personally don't care, it's annoying sure, but learning how to fix things yourself in life rather than always having an entitled attitude like I see now a days, sure is more liberating and character building.

@ComposedJam I can understand your envy if you're getting upset by my comment... you're too serious.

@Rayquaza2510 If the Switch really had a large failure rate, why does it still have 5-star reviews online to this day? Don’t you think a large portion of people would tank the reviews of the Switch if the failure rate was so high? And if most of Nintendo’s users buy everything Nintendo makes like you say, how do you explain the failure of the Wii U? I think it’s safe to say that nearly every diehard Nintendo fan bought that system, yet it still wasn’t a success. So that disproves both of you your theories right there.

@Park_Triolo

Your dad probably can beat up my dad, he has a bad back unfortunately, but let’s not bring our fathers into this!

“The problem can't be that big... and none of my friends have any issues, so really, I don't understand...”

I never said you denied the problem, since you actually admitted you, yourself had to swap sticks on your joy-con. But you certainly did downplay it. If it was a minor problem it wouldn’t be so widespread, to the point that there’s multiple lawsuits, and NoA is fixing them for free.

Also:

“Fact is I first experienced problems with my Joycons after 2 years of heavy use and the same goes for my friends with small variations.“

You really need to clarify this cause, if they did experience drift, it completely contradicts your first comment, when you said “none of your friends”.

@Park_Triolo

Haven't you heard? It's THEIR TRUTH, so for you to describe your personal experience that is different than theirs is to deny their TRUTH.

Probably because you're a bigot or something.

Yes it sucks and absolutely should never happen, but stop wasting money in replacements and sending them in for repairs, just replace the sticks yourself. It's a sucky workaround, but it works.

@buggysdad "I just sent off eight yesterday. E I G H T. These Switches are predominantly played by younger kids who have no clue why the cursor moves all over the screen or that Link keeps walking when nothing is being pressed. That is just part of the game to them." STOP SPOILING THEIR GAME!! Haha

@Park_Triolo So because it's not happened to you and a couple of your friends means it's not happening at all. Great logic 👍

@Screen How do you replace just the sticks?

@12345heath I am simply tired of repeating my self ad infinitum, but just for you... I DID NOT SAY THAT THE PROBLEM DOESN'T EXIST. READ BEFORE COMMENTING... the same goes for all you who just blabber on without context... READ first, then COMMENT.

@12345heath Actually very easy to do repairs. First time I just watched a YouTube-vid and second time I just did the repair with no reference. My teen daughter can do this in her sleep.

@ComposedJam You go on and on... do you have a Duracell battery pack installed in your back?

Now let me make a little checklist for you:

1. YES, you were verbally assaulting me, but it's OK, I don't really care... you're just wasting your time.
2. Saying "I don't know" doesn't make a person ignorant as one can study the problem further and find a solution. I didn't do that, because 1. I don't have to, and 2. Why should I?
3. Why do you think I blow things out of proportion. Maybe YOU do that?! I can only say that I didn't experience the problems many others seem to experience. What else do you want me to say?
4. I refuse to be forced to admit that I have problems with my Joycons, when I don't. What happens with future Joycons I might purchase, I can't say, maybe they will be faulty, but the ones I have now are not.
5.Sorry, but by saying "It's fine that you're fine, and it's fine that you don't understand, but I hope you don't try and deny that this is an issue or deny our experiences. I also hope you don't imply that this is a user issue when the fault is 100% Nintendo's." YOU IMPLY that I don't acknowledge the problem and furthermore by accusing me of blowing things out of proportion doesn't help your defence... YOU learn how to read.
5. I'm really NOT interested in hearing about you being bored, thank you very much.

And...

6. YOU certainly don't tell ME what to do, when you're not even able to have a normal conversation, where everyone is allowed to express their views freely.

@Vsaxo27 The solution of fixing the drift with compressed air or WD is basically sticking a band-aid over a bullet wound.

I use to be such a fan of Nintendo growing up but the way they’ve handled this issue is downright disappointing and dishonest for many loyal consumers. This is pure corporate greed. Nobody in their right mind should be defending their poor actions.

For people who say, “just go out and the buy the spare parts and fix yourself” I always say, think about the millions of switches owned by small children or parents who haven’t a clue what joycon drift is, but know that there is something broken with their controller and are probably blaming themselves for the fault! When its mostly likely not.

@12345heath

There’s a step by step tutorial on this website

Thank you, that's very helpful

BUY. A. PRO. CONTROLLER.

@ComposedJam

I think the disconnect you're experiencing between my comment, @park_triolo 's comment and your joy con issues is one of inference.

Park (and his friends) had a different experience than you, described in anecdote.

There's a general consensus that there's serious Joycon issues. (Though I don't think anyone has hacked Nintendo's product database to know statistically return/failure rates, all we have are a greater number of anecdotes)

You seem to have inferred that someone having a different experience than the majority of Joycon users, and describing it, is tantamount to denying a problem. This is not the case.

Explaining that people can have different experiences with the same thing, is now (low level) trolling.

The wonders of the internet!

Yeah, free repairs and free shipping apparently counts for 0% in Nintendo's efforts to compensate for the consumer. As much as I hate Joy Con drift and as much as I want it fixed, at least I have the courtesy to appreciate that Nintendo is doing at least SOMETHING rather than nothing.

@Park_Triolo "because it doesn't happen to me, it can't be happening to anyone else".

That attitude will get you far in life. Enjoy yourself.

@Outspoken

I agree with you. I also don't want to waste and money on repairs and/or buying new joycons.

Drift hurts some of my games. But, again, I don't want to throw money at new joy cons, which may have drift.

@Moon The pro controller rarely ever drifts. Honestly, I think you’re lying about your pro controller drifting because you want to add another point in your post even though it’s a lie. I know your pro controller does not drift, but you lied about it just to spite Nintendo. What an ***** you are.

@Donkey-Kong-Fan lol ok

@HotGoomba___Rebrand @Donkey-Kong-Fan @Moon I've had issues with the sticks wearing out on my Pro Controllers. It's not the same as the Joycon drift though. One stick will start "rubbing" a tiny bit, then it will start giving me resistance, then it will start sticking and be unusable (usually left). After all that happens you can pull up slightly on the bad stick and it will "pop" up slightly into place. I'm on my fourth since Feb 2018 (my second started having issues after 30 days so I got a refund and a replacement so I'm not counting "5" here). My fourth Pro started doing it after an hour of spinning the stick around for NMH remaster recently (I got this controller in April this year and haven't used it all that much compared to my former Pro Controllers). I'm really careful with these, especially after the 1st one went bad, even putting them in a slip when I'm done using them and clearing out any white powder debris on the stick caused by the stick rubbing on the plastic ring, before it falls down around the base. Like insanely careful. So yes, something in the build is weird even for the Pro. I've had a Dualshock since April 2018 and had none of these issues and have played the hell out of that thing.

@Dang69 Strange. Never had that happen to me.

Personally, I think that the Switch Pro Controller is the most comfortable, while the Xbox Controller is a very close second.

My Dualshock 4 is strangely my least favorite out of my main controllers, but not by much, it's still comfortable, just feels cheap compared to the other Controllers, and is ironically the one controller I have problems with or have the battery dying on me the most.

@Dang69

https://twitter.com/nintendokev/status/1325454871903039489?s=21

This is a quick video I made showing how bad my Pro Controller drift is. I made this video before this article was even posted,

So... In your face @Donkey-Kong-Fan !

@Moon not the exact problem I've had, because they all end up "sticking" "upward". It's probably the ways we push the stick differently as players that creates a different sort of wear on our sticks. But I assure anyone reading this that Pro Controller stick quality ain't great or long lasting, at least per my luck with them. I almost think the builds got worse as time went on, there where slight revisions made to them post 2017.

@HotGoomba___Rebrand do agree that Switch Pro shape is MY FAVORITE ever controller, which makes my issues all the more bummer inducing. Hate how the dualshock feels in both shape and quality. However the longevity of it seems great, I never even took all the care with it I did the Switch Pro controllers. Dualshocks had a big issue in their first year or 2 with their stick quality (I guess the rubber would wear off super easy), but Sony actually addressed a manufacturing issue and revised them! Imagine that, lol!