Two More NES Games Join The Nintendo Switch Online Service In August

Oh, wow. I am so excited about these additions. Nintendo is not in anyway at all shooting themselves in the foot with the way they run this service.

And if you believe that, I may have some oceanfront property you might be interested in.

Kung-Fu Heroes looks like it'd be fun for about 5 seconds. I'm glad they're at least adding some obscure(ish) titles.

Nintendo Switch Online? More like Nintendo Switch OFFline!

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M-More like Nintendo Switch Offline!

@Maulbert I wouldn't say they are shooting themselves in the foot with this lackluster service. But they are certainly making a lot less profit than they could be if they offered more games from more systems.

Ok, so therewere some weird ganes in the last couple of months for this service, but at least they were recognizable, seriously I've never seen these games before. to the ones who played these, are these actually good?

I’ve heard before that Vice: Project Doom is pretty good. I believe it’s the first time, it’s ever been rereleased, suprising considering that most of the other games have been rereleased at least 3 times, previously.

No interest in Kung Fu Heroes though.

Didn’t expect these games to join the service. Interested in Vice: Project Doom.

Remember the Wii Virtual Console? Man that was awesome.

Where’s Mother 1, Mach Rider, Excitebikr, Mysterious Murasame Castle and the Final Fantasy, Castlevania titles?

@Galactus_33 NES games look a lot better than they did on Wii. Idk why you guys miss that lol and the games are “free” now.

@Galactus_33 remember the Wii U Virtual Console?
it had everything and we made fun of it.

Now we're back to a service that'll rival the old Nintendo E-Card Reader series

Eleven months with crappy NES titles only. This is beyond insulting when you compare to what others (Sony and MS) have to offer, and how little the Online price is justified by the poor quality of features we’ve been paying for.

@Brianst0rm $20/year isn’t free.

@rushiosan Well, if we're lucky, the 1 year mark is when they plan to release SNES titles finally... After all, we've got about as many (eligible because they aren't in other compilations) NES titles as the Wii U had by the end of it's life cycle now.

Sweet!!! So we're getting 4 Doom games in one months time ?! 😉

Even though I’m sure both of these games are fine in their own right, I hope Nintendo winds down the NES titles and starts releasing SNES titles soon.

Perhaps for the 1st year anniversary of the service we’ll see SNES titles.

@rushiosan people pay 20$ for playing Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario Maker etc on line.
NES games are just an "extra"... Is not as anyone is going to pay 20$ for these games....

This is worst than the bottom of the barrel

The first game looks fun, the Kung fu game is probably trash, would of preferred a ninja gaiden game

I'm used to whacky service from Nintendo. I'm just glad I can play The Lost Levels with a rewind feature now, lol. Glad there's some more obscure titles coming to the NES service, but yes, they will not occupy me for long. At least I have my Switch, Wii U (with large Wii VC and Wii U VC libraries, an SNES mini and a PS2 all hooked up to one TV. I'm banking on them starting up SNES games on the service at some point...who the hell knows when we'll see a Virtual Console type service with N64 games again, much nonetheless Gamecube games.

I think soooome people would pay $20 a year for these games. You're right though, that they are extra and peripheral to playing games online. I think Nintendo's online services have improved enough from their early days to warrant a fee, and $20 is cheap. I enjoy playing Splatoon a lot, youtube is great, and I'll end up playing SSBU more in the future. Dragon Ball FighterZ as well! Not to mention Animal Crossing.

I hope someone's excited for these games lol!

@Brianst0rm you have to buy the castlevania collection to get those games, sucks but it’s worth it

I clicked on this article solely to make sure it wasn't a joke. Two and a half years into the Switch's life, NES is still the only "legacy content" being offered, and these are the two games being featured for an entire month.

I'm speechless. I am without speech.

@Galactus_33 I have been playing my Virtual Console games all week and LOVING them. It really is inexcusable that we have not gotten anything close to that.

But I am also an oddball who only does local multiplayer, so I have not bothered to pony up for the online service.

That said, I would happily do so if they ever bothered to deliver a comparably robust service to Virtual Console. In the meantime, I’ll just keep giving Konami, Capcom, SNK, Square and (best of all) Sega my money for their retro collections (some of which are pretty lazy port jobs, but the underlying material is still stellar) of games I actually want to play.

Vice is a solid title, still have my NES copy.

Okay, I know this is beating a dead horse, but they do have to put a certain amount of time and testing into these ROMs to make sure they work, right? So there's a certain time investment, and the reward is having an attractive perk to purchasing Nintendo Switch Online that drives people who might otherwise not have bought it to do so and that drives people who might not resubscribe to do so. Some time for some money. Which means that the more attractive they can make the NES Online service without significantly increasing the amount of time put into the service, the better for them.

As a thought experiment, let's say that an NES game takes 5 energy points to add, setting up an SNES emulator takes 10 energy points, and an SNES game takes 5 energy points to add, and we'll assume Nintendo is allotting 10 energy points to the project and any extra energy points have to come from some other project. Let's also say that a very popular game like Super Mario Bros. brings in 10 popularity points, a somewhat popular game like Kirby's Adventure brings in 5 popularity points, a game that hasn't aged well but that some people played back in the day like Dodgeball brings in 2 popularity points, and a game that nobody has ever heard of, regardless of quality, brings in 0 popularity points. Currently, Nintendo could keep putting in 10 energy points for 2 NES games, but they've already released most of the games in the 10 and 5 point categories. That means they're scraping the bottom of the barrel of their back catalog, so 2 and 0 point games. Currently, they're putting in 10 energy points and getting 4 popularity points back at max instead of the 20 points max they could get near the beginning of the service's lifespan. The SNES library's collection of 10 popularity point games is completely untapped and could easily be drawn from for another year before even getting to 5 popularity point games. By continuing with their current plan for the next year with their current schedule, they would get at max 48 popularity points. If they dropped down to one NES game for the next two months and put the rest of their allotted energy into testing an SNES emulator, they would make 4 popularity points through August and September instead of 8 (at max), but would make 200 popularity points through the rest of the year from releasing beloved games like Super Mario World, leading to a total of 204 instead of 48. Of course this is a flawed thought experiment since I don't have Nintendo's budget in front of me and I can't actually quantify people's desire for games into numbers in a clear cut way, but I still do think that the general idea it conveys, that Nintendo gets more from putting some effort into the SNES emulator once and reaping the benefits for the next two years by releasing games that people are familiar with than from releasing games nobody has ever heard of from their NES library for the next 12 months, specifically because the point of the NES Online app is to make the online service appear more attractive and games that nobody has heard of don't make the service appear more attractive. By investing just a little bit more in the short term, they can gain a lot more for the same energy cost for the next 1-2 years.

Vice looks pretty cool, Kung-Fu Heroes not so much. But is anyone really excited about these releases anymore? Time to move forward, Nintendo!

Nintendo has milked NES games to death and all the nostalgia that they once had is gone. They're not a appealing reason to buy this service anymore so the only worthwhile bonus you get is Tetris 99 and while fun it's not worth 20 bucks. If Nintendo wants more people to buy this and to not think the service is a joke they need to add SNES games or some kind of other bonus to make it worth 20$.

@link3710 I've been thinking the same thing for ages now. Each year to mark the anniversary of the online service they release another system. Of course that's just me speculating (and hoping). But the way I see it, if they have a 6 year plan for the Switch it would make sense that they would stagger the releases rather than give us everything from the get-go. Nothing to look forward to and keep interest that way.

I’ve stopped worrying about what Nintendo is releasing on the NES App. I’ll give you the fact that $20 is cheap to play online, but the extra benefits are an after thought to these guys. I seriously do not think they give a ton of thought into what they are releasing. One dude says on Tuesday, “ How about we just do Kung Fu Heroes?”

@Galactus_33 What is this "Virtual Console" that you speak of? Sounds like a software-only digital game streaming service. ( )

@Maulbert Glad you're happy with Nintendo's online services! I've been looking to buy some oceanfront property; is it located in Hawaii, and do you take a MasterCard?

Such a shame that when these announcements come now I feel total apathy. It’s gotta be the most totally meh thing Nintendo has done in years.

@Brianst0rm $20 a year is cheap, but it ain't free, especially considering if I wanted a specific NES game I could just drop $5 for it

As for missing virtual console on Wii, well people miss it for the SNES and N64 titles among other things

It's amazing to me to see so many people dumping on V:PD (especially those who have obviously never played it). It is in my classic gaming top 5, for sure!

They shouldn’t have bothered to release anything.

Vice Project Doom is a great game. It mixes up a few genres, unique in how it did that. It was one of my most suprising pickups on the NES.

Tetris 99 is the best game they added to the service. I am tried of all these NES games. Hopefully they release SNES games in September during the first anniversary.

If they're going to keep releasing NES games, all I want is EarthBound Beginnings.

The Great N running its online service like it is about the cancel its services soon.

@Aaronnnnn
I played Kung Fu Heroes as a kid. I remember having a lot of fun with it but also keep in mind that was a simpler time when even the back video games were played to death just because a bad video game was still better than no video game.
It's probably actually garbage but I'm excited it's coming to NES online. It was one of those obscure games that my cousins rented, we enjoyed it for a few days than never heard about it again.

I always wanted to play it again, thanks Nintendo!

Hadn't heard about Vice until today. Digged a little and it seems to be a hidden gem. Some positive reviews out there.

https://retrogameman.com/2016/07/24/nes-review-vice-project-doom/amp/

http://www.honestgamers.com/9348/nes/vice-project-doom/review.html

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/nes/587752-vice-project-doom/reviews/162633

Kung Fu Heroes I played it with my brother when we were kids. It's okay. Not mind-blowing, but nice.

@Quarth
I might be the only one who is excited about these at this point. Honestly I've been checking this site regularly the last couple of days because I figured Nintendo was going to announce the August games soon. I got a wave of excitement when I saw they were finally announced as and I am stoked to play these two games, one I heard was pretty good and one I played as a kid and had wanted to give it a go again.

Again, I'm probably the only one.

We all should stop paying for this service.

We’ve already got most of the heavy hitters, I’m glad for the obscure title now, that I never played as a kid

The folks saying this is scraping the bottom must not have rented many NES games at the grocery store. I remember more than just two instances of disappointment with my hard earned dollar.
I’ll at least give these a go, but I’ve never heard of them before. I’m still enjoying bouts of Tecmobowl and Punchout

I actually like the NES games part of switch online but I got to admit... this is crap.

@arekdougy For GBA, N64 and Gamecube game, I would pay 20 dollars a year on top of the current 20 - just to have them all, legally, on Switch. No hacking, no piracy, no risk of breaking the system.

If they dropped the whole VC library from 3DS and Wii U to the Switch, I'd spend probably 100 dollars or more day 1.

I'll give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt on Vice: Project Doom as people seem have enjoyed it back in the day. Kung Fu Heroes however looks dreadful, if Nintendo are only releasing two games a month they need toboth be high quality.

Or they could release Earthbound Beginnings, why they haven't done this yet is honestly baffling, or better yet they could add Gameboy games and give us Pokemon Pinball, although knowing Nintendo we'd be more likely to get games like Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle instead.

Vice project doom is a very good game. Kung fu heroes on the other hand...

Excuse me, where is our main Nintendo Mascot, YO NOID?! LITERALLY GARBAGE, I WANT THE NOID

NES Rygar.
Just that game and if be happy.
One of my all time favorite and has NEVER made it to a virtual console.

I wonder why people scream at me every time I say I like switch online. I get it, it can be better, but it's impossible for me to voice an opinion without people screaming and cramming emulator links down my throat

@BlackenedHalo
You got us there, I guess we have to stop now that you said so.

This slow trickle of 2 nes games a month isn’t doing much for me and many others it seems. As successful as the switch has been its mind blowing this is how they are running their online service. A better online party chat like the other systems have and a little more variety in their classic catalogue would really give Nintendo the boom to sky rocket the switch.

Really only interested in purchase-able and own-able N64 and GameCube games on the go.
Don’t like that retro games are being held behind rental service.

@frogopus Yes! Great game. And Baseball Simulator 1.000 while we're at it.

Vice actually looks pretty good. Kung Fu Heroes looks ok. Would’ve have preferred Kung Fu instead! But in all seriousness, im not super against NES titles, i just wish they brought out bigger ones. Like Mega Man 1-6, Castlevania 1-3, Contra and Super C, Ninja Gaiden 2-3, Street Fighter 2010, Mighty Final Fight. I know some of these are in compilations but some people just want the NES games and not pay for a whole collection. Plus games like Contra could be super interesting online!

I've never played either of these. How are they?

Man they are really digging in the crates when giving people these games. Vice looks like a kinda fun Ninja Gaiden style action game, but that’s about all there is to say. A while back I was thinking SNES games were right around the corner, but my thinking is going both ways when I see last and this month’s offerings. They could just release more and more obscure titles from the NES for another year, if this is what they are releasing.

Vice: Project Doom is excellent, and I'm glad to see a Culture Brain game on there. As an aside, the SNES sequel, Little Ninja Boy is excellent.

I agree these NES offerings are too few, but there are so many games that flew under the radar back then that still could be added: Holy Diver, Code Name Viper, Legendary Wings, Rollergames, Magic of Shehezerade, Little Samson, Burai Fighter, SCAT, Guardian Legend, Little Nemo, Gyruss, Over Horizon.... I could go on and on. A lot of people just seem to want the games that have been released over and over again, through the NES Mini, 3DS, collections, or on Virtual Console.

These two "obscure" games being added is a good sign to me (although seriously, they should be releasing at least five a month and expand to other systems).

@gokev13 Glad someone enjoys them!

@Dodger
They already have tested them over the Wii, wiiu and 3ds VC. You can boot up any nes emulator and it will play the same games like any other. I don't want access to every game but I do want access to games I want with no restrictions (and no I'm not going to jump on and buy a sub to pay them $20 every year just to play the same games when I could just buy them straight up or transfer my purchases from the vc).

Obscure games? Count me in. This is a good way to play some titles for the first time and even know about them.

This month's NES offerings disappoint me.

Really surprised to see VICE! I almost forgot about the NES online service 😬

More Doom game is awesome. Can't wait to play this 8-Bit version of Doom for NES as I am prepare for Doom Eternal. Hopefully in the future we get even more Doom games like Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom, Doom Troopers, Lufia and the Fortress of Doom, Ninja Gaiden 3: The Ancient Ship of Doom, Golvellius: Valley of Doom, Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom, Akalabeth: World of Doom, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom, Masquerade: The Baubles of Doom, Ishar 2: Messengers of Doom, Night of Doom, etc.

@HobbitGamer That’s why we should be partially thankful for none of those movie licensed games coming to NES Online. Stuff like Hook, Friday the 13th, and Back to the Future were dreadful. It would be nice to see TMNT Arcade game, Batman, and Ducktails, but the rest were weekend ruining for children.

Very pleased to see Vice: Project Doom, there was a time where I thought this title was getting more recognition but it seemed to have dropped off a bit.

I don't play the NES games anyway so it's of no great concern to me.. I did try a few of them when I first signed up and realised straight away how badly they aged.

I keep telling myself that eventually the choice of games on the service will get better (snes, N64, game cube etc) but to be honest it's starting to look less and less likely with each passing month.

Earthbound Beginnings would've been a nice game to release on Mother's 30th anniversary...

@justin233 you're very funny. bahahaha fun for 5 seconds. Exactly my thoughts. It kinda looks cut, but gameplay wise... not so much... it would be shut down by me after a few seconds hahaha

@Tyranexx the virtual console was a download shopfront, it wasn’t a streaming service...

@NotTelevision
Don't listen to reviews like AVGN. Unless you try them yourself you can't say they are bad, I've played Back to the Future, Friday the 13th and Hook and they are all good games. Maybe you should try to go play Life of Black Tiger then you can talk about a bad game.

Say what you want, but that’s some interesting additions!

Clearly they're randomly drawing titles out of a hat

I would prefer them to not add NES games anymore.

@Aaronnnnn Vice project doom is one of the finest games on the system.

Vice project Doom 4 the win.

@Lizuka ??? Have you actually played Vice Project Doom?

Once my Online Subscription runs out, I am not going to extend it and you should too!

@PBandSmelly i had a fun little sesh on the NES games last weekend, Punch Out is great. Mario 3 is an all time great. NES Open is something I regularly go back to and enjoy, much like these comment sections every month. The SNES games will come, just not yet. Virtual Console won’t come back, and it doesn’t help that other software companies want that money for themselves and are rereleasing their own retro titles.

man what i wouldn't do for snes games to hit this service. i accept virtual console is dead, fine, so be it. but why is THIS the only 'replacement'? this thing is going full handheld with the lite, let's get some gameboy advance games on this thing! snes, n64, etc. the well runs sooooooo deep and they are drawing from the most shallow depths possible.

come. on.

Nintendo really knows how to drive those online subs.

/s

@GameOtaku That’s cool if you like them. I just remember being duped by those low-effort games back in the day when I rented games from the local supermarket with my grandmother. Long before AVGN or any knowledgeable consensus, I thought they were terrible.

Oh my God what is Nintendo doing?! At least give us GBA and SNES games! And please sell a cartridge with all these classic games on it so it doesn't have to be a Nintendo Switch Online subscription thing that's online only!

Lame. Wish they’d move on to other platforms

Hey Nintendo, if you are so determined to release obscure NES games, can we please have Guardian Legend next?

Nintendo Online Service is simply not a service. It is adding a paywall to the existing infrastructure we had on the Wii. Basically shareholders expect Nintendo to make money like the other consoles and charge for online. Except Nintendo simply has the most bare bones barely functioning online service out there and even during the days of the Wii and Wii U had MORE online features.

The NES game netflix thing they are trying to justify it with is pathetic as well. Fact is they aren't spending any money to license the games they are putting on the service so they are literally just release old games they had laying around or have been released on emulators for decades now.

I pay for the service for the online, but I am seriously considering stopping when my year is up because there has been no actual features including crucial ones such as messaging.

@Dethmunk Truth is the online service and the supposed "features" do not justify the cost even at £12.00/year. Microsoft charged me £40.00 (at full RRP) for one of Xbox Live Gold and offers messaging, party voice chat and free modern games. Nintendo charged me £35.00 for all my profiles to use online and offers none of that including a voice chat system that no one uses. So it is basically the NES games, the vouchers (wow £5.00 off a digital game if I buy 2) and Tetris the game older than time.

SNES games, at least another couple of Tetris 99 style experiences and a MMO are needed for this service to become a must have purchase.

Those complaining about this month’s new games most likely have never even played Vice Project Doom, which is a hidden gem in the console’s library. Think Ninja Gaiden with guns.

At least they’re offering something of substance this month!

I would like to play Vice, seems like a good game. Now on to snes and beyond! (Or bring the hd zelda's to the Switch. Or Star Fox Zero HD)

I'm super happy with my Switch, but I really thought it would be the ultimate means to gather all Nintendo's classic games and more wherever I go. As third party content is concerned the train has pretty much left the station with others than Nintendo cashing in on their own games. They still have the opportunity to make their own switch online service into an amazing one stop shop for all things classic Nintendo and I still hope against hope that they will. I'd much rather have N64, GC and Wii games for the switch (online) than in the form of new mini, consoles which frankly I can't be bothered to clutter up my home with. Please, make the switch the only retro console I'll ever need. Pretty please?

The decision not to include Virtual console on a system so perfectly suited for it is still beyond me. Don't you understand, Nintendo? I'd buy many of your games AGAIN given the chance, if you're not willing to include them in switch online for a monthly fee.

Barrel scraping at it's finest right here.

@Dethmunk they are not free. you pay 20 dollars for the privilege.

You know when you have a tub of butter and you don't wanna waste any, so you scrape and scrape until you have that last little bit? It's a very similar situation! This is pitiful

@Dethmunk
"Here we go again.... everyone moaning because they're not getting everything for nothing. You've got over 30 NES games for free, TETRIS 99 (brand new game) for free, play Mario Tennis for free, Online gameplay and file sharing (Mario Maker 2) and Cloud Save service for near EVERY game on Switch. "
"All for a poultry $20 a year! I mean come on. "
So not for free?

At this point I'm not even mad anymore. I'm curious to see how long Nintendo is able to completely ignore the feedback regarding the games offered.

@arekdougy I don't see Nintendo providing N64 games for 20$ a year and you can be sure they won't give GameCube games for that lol (more in the line they won't release any GameCube game for 20$/each!)

Vice looks like a pretty varied game for its era, and I don't even remember paying it much attention during my romset dives. Granted, my NES app time looks to be mostly dedicated to Zelda 2 for the near future - I decided to restart it after all, and it's not like my 3DS version had racked up much progress by then either. Expect this lazy butt to abuse rewinds again because losing the ranged attack every time Link is so much as sneezed at can get annoying at times. Yes, I'm a pathetic gamer.

@Heavyarms55 I guess a company with a wallet like Nintendo's can afford to choose how much profit they're aiming to make at a time. And Nintendo has seemed to be making use of this choice in everything they've done for the last 15 years or so.

And that answers @MajinSoul question, too. Nintendo doesn't ignore feedback - they just don't feel obliged to comply with it. Which, considering they aren't, is a pretty accurate feeling. Demand doesn't ALWAYS create offer.

Vice Project Doom is a great game, with unique mechanics. Highly recommend it.

As for Kung Fu Heroes... I don't remember playing it, but I'd rather spend time with Vice

Nice to see games I've not played before get added. More interested in this than games I've played more than enough before and probably won't play again (yes, I'm in that weird minority who isn't that bothered about playing NES Mario Bros over and over again for 30+ years). To those saying this is bad value, when you factor in Tetris 99 and now the Game Trials service (I never got Mario Tennis Aces so I'm having a great week!) and also consider it's less than half the price of PS plus, it's actually pretty decent.

@Dethmunk See you this time next month for more of the same!

I am dreaming about the day, when someone publishes Codemasters games from NES era. I think that they are one of the best NES games ever and they are unknown to many people.
Super Robin Hood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DbmJgYkBH8
Ultimate Stuntman
Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy
Micromachines
Big Nose the Caveman
Go Dizzy Go

Maybe Nintendo will move to SNES games in September. Remember that there are loads of people that will be asked to renew their annual Online Subscription- One year after it launched and will be looking for something standout to continue to pay

Yeah, ever since they released Kirby's Adventure I kinda stopped caring and will probably not renew my subscription. Not until they do actually add some SNES games.

Vice looks like it might be the first decent game in a while we've gotten on the service in a while.
I'm already bored of Kung Fu Heroes just from that video.
This service is still wasting so much potential, IMO. They can't even maintain the bare minimum trickle of 3 decades old games a month, though I expect a "bonus" of a game save state SP version to be added as the third.

Getting into the more obscure NES titles is definitely the route Nintendo needs to take. I’m excited to try these games for the first time.

In September or at least October the SNES app has to go online. One year after the NES app that would just make sense and Nintendo can't really push the NES app forward anymore.

@Aaronnnnn Vice Project Doom is one of the best NES games imo. It's a great action platformer with different environments, great gameplay and big bosses. The game keeps you interested through the end. I reccomend it. I've never heard of the other game though

So many people complaining that Nintendo should add SNES, Game Boy and N64 games to their service, and that Nintendo is running out of NES games and scraping the bottom of the barrel.

While they really should add SNES games, they are far from running out of NES games, there are still many great NES and Famicom games still missing, they should add games faster, like 6 or 8 every month.

Everytime I log in to nes online I have about 10 new games in there and so far there is not a single game that grabbed me for more than 15 min... I just don't care about nes games and their gameplay is just too clunky for my taste. The only genre I would go there for is JRPG but unfortunately there are none. Also if next month SNES are not announced I wouldn't be surprised if it another year of speculation...

I haven't bothered reading the comments coz they will be the same people repeating the same things that I have read for the last 10 months.

Let's see what September brings with the Anniversary of the service. Perfect time to add SNES support. Maybe...

I love Vice: Project Doom. One of my favorite NES games of all time.

@Zequio People pay for something that doesn’t need a subscription plan, all first party games remain P2P and there are no features (voice chat, messaging) to justify dropping money on online multiplayer. Just take a look on how bad SSBU online is. This is unjustifiable.

Kung Fu Heroes is actually pretty fun so I like this addition. It'd be cool to see more obscure games like Metal Warriors or Faxanadu.

Hope these two are good and that SNES comes next month.

VPD is a great game, and it's kind of sad to see people slag it because "BUT MUH SNES JRPGs!".

Dear Nintendo,

No one cares for “free” NES games.

Yours Truly,

All Nintendo Online Subscribers

I'm actually glad they're putting in obscure stuff like this, because 75% of both VCs were first-party stuff that wasn't hot anymore.

@datamonkey As I'm well aware. Hence the winking emoji in parentheses. I was making a joke; I was poking fun at the fact that the VC seems forgotten on the Switch in place of NSO.

The SNES games will be announced soon, we know it is coming from the OS datamine.

VICE: Project Doom is an amazing game. Don't sleep on it just because it looks ridiculous! It's like... Spyhunter and Ninja Gaiden had a sweet, sweet baby

It's to the point where the new games added each month are more a joke than anything else. There's such a wealth of great games in the Nintendo library, but they continue to choose the worst to add to the service.

I was bummed until I saw the Kunio game. I’ll check that one out at least.

Booooooooooring, pass.

Early September Direct.
Mid September SNES Online Launch.

I liked Kung Fu Heroes back in the day, but come on 2 titles. Also it's pretty crappy that most of the time Japan even gets an extra title to boot. If I wasn't getting the service for free with my twitch prime service I wouldn't have it, and they sure won't convince me to keep the service after my 12 free months from twitch prime unless they add way more to this service.

I was hoping for Final Fantasy or Earthbound Beginnings tbh :/

@CerberusAzdin you should probably speak for yourself, because "no one" and "all online subscribers" is inaccurate.

Didn't you have to buy games in Virtual Console?

@Dethmunk
Again you are not getting them for free! You have to pay $20 every year or you lose access not to mention you have to check in every week or you'd also lose access! Five years of NSO to play the games you could've outright bought on vc now will cost you $100 just to play super Mario bros! Let that sink in a moment! Less than $5 on vc unlimited access, NSO $20 with restrictions and you have to pay every year! Hmm VC is a way better deal, and if you can't see that you are obviously blind and I've got some swamp land that'd be a good investment for you!

@teamdave2002 @CerberusAzdin

It's an exaggeration... but he certainly speaks for me, and I would suggest a vast majority of core Nintendo fans too.

We need some SNES action pronto! I really hope it arrives on the 1 year mark of NSO... Otherwise, it's pretty poor form by Nintendo.

Eventually everyone will realize that much like Netflix, Nintendo has the problem that everyone else (Capcom, Konami, Square-Enix, etc.) believes that their 10-20 games (with 1-3 beloved ones) are now worth massive amounts of money. So they have pulled their content away from services like these to create their own, not realizing that they are shooting themselves in the foot. We need to realize that like licensed games, there are just some titles that are very unlikely to be released on Nintendo Switch Online NES Service.

We will probably never see games like Final Fantasy, Castlevania, Contra, Mega Man, Dragon Warrior/Quest, or any of the other darlings of the era (or even the SNES era if/when they add them) on a service like this again (as some were already missing from Wii U Virtual Console... Square-Enix). But we may find new games like Wild Guns that are decent but overlooked.

@nocdaes

It’s coming up to a year since they introduced the paid online service. Hopefully they will surprise us with SNES or GB games

All the NES games don't last long really but I completed StarTropics last week. The nifty rewind feature stopped the game getting frustrating as I played it on Wii Virtual Console before and lost my patience with it. NES games are ok but I only got NSO to play Splatoon, Mario Kart, Tennis and Smash online really.

Man, this is exciting news. Can't wait to play them for two minutes and then close the NES app again

if they don't give us dany sullivan's indy heat next month I'm canceling my subscription

@Dethmunk Poultry is chicken, I think you meant paltry haha.

I feel I'm getting my money's worth with tennis at the moment, but I understand some already own it or aren't interested.

@GameOtaku for that to happen I would need to completely power down my Switch and be away from the internet for a week. Not going to happen as it's permanently on sleep so therefore always online. Plus I hardly ever go back to games once they're beat.

I've only ever bought one VC game, Ocarina of Time and played it for a week which cost me £6.99. You make it sound like $20 is a mortgage. It's only games at the end of the day, that are on tap for less than 5p a day.

@Brianst0rm Excitebike and VS. Excitebike are both on there.

For anyone in the dark about Vice: Project Doom; here’s Super Nicktendo’s non-nostalgia-biased review of the game, sorta of a hidden gem turned diamond in the rough I heard.

https://youtu.be/T7kxm8xztuM

I had Kung Fu Heroes as a kid. Loved it! Can't wait to play that with my little one.

@Tyranexx ah ok apologies, my bad!

@Franz Really man? They shouldn't have put up anything? You know nobody is forcing you to play it if you don't want to.

@GameOtaku I played Back to the Future. It is not good (though as some had said, not the worst thing on the NES). Got as far as the book boss mini-game. Bad hit detection, even after playing on emulator to turn off the background to focus better on the hearts.

I don't know about Hook on NES but I hear Hook on SNES was a better game by a better developer (the Skyblazer people).

Yep it's definitely time for SNES

@KingMike Yes, I'll take nothing over mediocrity. But if someone else enjoys the games, I'm happy for them!

Vice: Project Doom looks like its the most fun game on the list, l might give it a try.
Wonder what will be the next games they will release.

@WiltonRoots
Well good for you but I don't have Internet at home nor do several million gamers in the world either. Thing is you are being restricted to rentals when you had unlimited access to a game you could purchase on the shop and not have your screen filled up with games you'd never touch. For $20 on vc I could do pretty well. The nes classic game selection should be open to everyone not just suckers uh I mean subbers!

@datamonkey Heh, no prob! Sarcasm in text is a little hard to pick up on sometimes.

@KingMike
Try focusing on the book. The hearts need to hit it. It's a pretty steady stream of hearts so it's not to hard to keep up with them, don't forget you only need to stop 50.

@nocdaes I actually don't think he does speak for the "core Nintendo fan," whatever that means. People like you or me posting on sites like this are so insulated from what the casual Nintendo fan likes and enjoys. I'm guessing the vast majority of people are okay with the $20 price tag for Nintendo online. And that's who Nintendo is trying to please. You guys threatening to not renew over really petty things are a drop in the bucket for Nintendo.

@N00BiSH
You just won the comment section.

@teamdave2002 spot on.

@Aaronnnnn Vice is pretty damn actually. If you can get pass a few quirks.

@BlackenedHalo if we all stopped paying for this service than would Nintendo also be nice and refund me my Mario maker 2 monies. The only game I need online for.

Zelda BOTW No online
Mario Odyssey No online
NEW Super Mario U Deluxe no online
Mario Tennis aces - Lag Online
Super Mario Party - Silly Online

Arms - online but who bought it
Mario Kart 8 - online
Smash - Lag online
Platoon 2 - Ive played enough already
MM2 - online just to download courses

I just can't get paying for online with the games Nintendo offers. I got it bundled with MM2 but even discounted I feel ripped off.

I know people hate EA and Activision but at least they make games which I could play online.

@GameOtaku The thing is everyone is different. Me personally I don't care as it's only a few quid, gaming has always cost money and $20 is nothing. I'm never going to cry over it. It's just video games. I'm not going to go into meltdown over less than 5p a day when I spend 100x that on my lunch every working day. There's much bigger things in life to be concerned over than some pixels dancing around on a screen.

@Dethmunk

I don't think most are asking to get something for nothing. Whether it's paid for it not, Crap is crap.

More to the point is that Nintendo has never gotten the internet right and don't seem to care that NES games are not a draw anymore.

Nintendo provides a product, yet we, the buying public, aren't supposed to complain about a service we pay for? I didn't set the price. Ninty did. If they need to charge more for a decent product then they should do so.

The bottom line is they are a large corporation and their only goal is to make money. They will work to that end. Critics and apologists be damned.

@teamdave2002

Enjoy you NES games mate

I rented Kung Fu Heroes when I was a kid. I remember getting far and it glitching or never ending. Hopefully they add the Ninja Boy RPG games. I have that release on Wii U Virtual Console. I used to rent the SNES Super Ninja Boy when I was little... loved it.

Well. I know a lot of games that should be on the service. First party with no hang ups are as easy and obvious as Earthbound Beginnings, Zoda’s Revenge and Yoshi’s Cookie. But hey, what do I know?

Truthfully, Nintendo knows they can keep stringing everyone along and people will keep saying 'maybe next month' while they give some random reason like 'It's the anniversary' or 'there can't be any NES games left'.

It gets more pathetic to watch every month.

Vice Project Doom was one of the ones I listed as a remaining NES game. I never thought it would get rereleased... Told y'all NES ain't done! PLAY THIS, PERIOD. Wow... Totally shocked. That means Shatterhand has a legitimate chance now. Perhaps even Powerblade 1 and 2. Or even Journey to Silius. Damn I'm shocked...

@Luffymcduck I still got it.

Attempted to play a bunch of the “top 100 nes games ” a few years back. Vice: project doom was very very good. I had never heard of it back in the day. Awesome soundtrack too. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/o7xt7zQmFtk

I'm amazed we're getting "Vice: Project Doom"! It's a great game with a definite Natsume feel and a pinch of Ninja Gaiden and Spy Hunter. Great choice!

@PharoneTheGnome

Have you even played these two games? Be honest.

Japan gets all the good stuff

@electrolite77

Clearly works for the Satirical Police.

@WiltonRoots
I had a one month sub I got with my coins. I only had half that time of gameplay (or even less with life stuff) because of the stupid checkin requirement. Has it been like vc I could still play those games now that I wanted to play then. VC style service would work out a lot better for more people than the current model!

People need to stop complaining. Look, Switch only came out to replace the horribly failed Wii U. If people had bought 10's of millions of Wii U's then you wouldn't have Switch right now, and this online service, you'd have Virtual Console with hundreds of different games from past systems. Blame yourselves, because you didn't buy Wii U, so Nintendo killed it after just a few months on the market, and quickly replaced it with Switch.

@gamefreak77

So the public is to blame for how Nintendo runs itself. Interesting, especially as ninty is notorious and proud for making their own decisions without ever considering what their customers might actually want.

"Please understand..."

I did some surveys for Nintendo recently and the On line service was in several questions including possible SNES additions. I am hopeful but who knows. If they do not add these I am still not renewing.

conspiracy time! nintendo is literally trying to make this the most barebones, lackluster service ever. that way any little effort or additions they add to the service will seem amazing by comparison, and "at least better than how it used to be"

Lame. It's like they're trying to keep us from renewing.

Vice looks 16 bit in quality so looking forward to that its got shooting and shooting and drving and shooting platform sections and one of the shooting stage with the cars look a little like gta 1. As for kung fu hero's seems like a rubbish fighting game i''ll get bored of in less than 5 minutes.

D'oh - for an instant I thought this was Kung Fu, loved that game in the arcades.

@electrolite77

In all seriousness, I just wish that they bolstered the platforms apart of NES games. I’m hoping that they include SNES or even Gameboy games. Im personally not that enticed by NES games and one of my favourite things of Nintendo platforms after the Wii was the Virtual Console; the ability to have a digital collection of classics. My 3DS is littered with GBA and SNES games and I think that they are missing the opportunity to give gamers that awesome library in doors and on the go.

Imagine being able to play Super Metroid, on the go, starting from the entrance of Mother Brain’s Lair?

@BanjoPickles No. I looked at the video that Nintendo released for the new games this month, and my initial reaction was I am not interested in either of them. The vast majority of the games they have released on the service have been games that I just don't care that much about.

There have been a few I have liked, and some that pulled on my nostalgia strings like Volleyball, but these two just do nothing for me.

We all know that the Switch is powerful enough for them to emulate NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and Gameboy games. It would be nice if they put out a game from two different platforms each month, and randomly rotate which platforms. For example, for November, they would have one game from SNES and one from Gamecube. Then in December have one from NES and one from Gameboy.

The way it's going right now, they are scraping the bottom of the barrel with NES games that most people didn't even bother playing back when the system was new. I'm 46, so I lived the full age of Atari, Commodore, Nintendo, Sega, Playstation. I was there, and I remember it. These games were not sought after in the least.

@antster1983 only Excitebike VS is.