Pre-Orders Open For 8BitDo's "Most Advanced Controller" Ever

Oh my. Is it just me or is it getting hot in here?

OMG, I literally just posted about this in the forums. Hopefully it was worth the wait. These look awesome.

I'm surprised nintendo hasn't officially endorsed them. Their controllers are surprisingly high quality.

That's awesome! I'll take two even though I'll probably never use half of the configurations.

What's missing

1. Wifi connection Switch without dongle
2. NFC reader

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lack of native Switch wifi connection without extra hardware. The posted pic is misleading there is no native connection to the Switch without the dongle so how are they showing that picture?

@SwitchForce what do you mean? doesn't it just connect to the Switch with bluetooth? I have one of their SNES controllers and it works just fine without and kind of dongle or adapter.

Wait what? Like RESISTANCE sensitivity or like the other sensitivity?

@SwitchForce Power + Y is Switch Mode. No dongle required.

Also, what are macros?

Almost pulled the trigger on the Power A controller today, happy I didn't. This sound like a beast, glad it has symmetrical sticks too. Just preordered the black one!!

The original SN30 pro was already a great controller, so a must have.

@redd214 Good choice, these are some of the best third party controllers you can get quality wise.

Why did 8bitdo discontinue controllers that looked like replicas of NES/SNES controllers? Did Nintendo's lawyers come after them?

Whatever happened with that Zero 2 controller? Their website still says "Coming holiday 2018."

I'm taking a really big chance on this one. I ended up ordering two SN30 pro controllers and the d pad just wasn't up to par with the regular SN30. I couldn't even play Mario without accidentally ducking all the time. I love the look of this controller, so I'm hopeful they improved the d pad. I couldn't help but preorder the gb style.

My A button started sticking on my SN 30 after about 3 months. Dunno if I want to roll the dice with them again.

I prefer the offset sticks of the pro controller over the dual shock style this controller adopts. Still cool if you wanted to play the Switch with a PS4 style controller.

Nice but the original SN30 Pro works just fine for me, would be great for them to make an M30 Pro though. I need my M30 with duo sticks please 8Bitdo, thank you.

Did anybody else have issues with SN30 Pro Vibration. For me some of the games I played the Vibration would be super high and then it wouldnt stop, I would have to exit the game and turn off the controller. I ended up turning vibration off for a lot of the games I played using the SN30 Pro.

Tempting though $50 is a bit much for now when really all I want to do is remap it to play Smash with the D-pad. Looks awesome though.

Did they fix the uber loud vibration? That was the only problem I had with the SN30 Pro. But it was annoying as heck!

Is it comfy? It looks a little odd shaped...but I’m used to the switch pro controller.

Still, I’m interested in the snes edition!

I've been waiting for this!!!

I've been waiting for these things ever since I got the SN30 Pro Gameboy edition.

Still never had any of the dpad issues others complain about. Over sensitive analog sticks however....

@DaWizerd This happened to me too, thanks to Smash Bros. Ultimate. I emailed their customer support and they offered to ship replacement parts for free (the rubber contacts underneath wore out) but it's been almost a month and I don't have the parts yet.

@Heavyarms55 Fixed with firmware updates.

@Thegaminggeek Oh, how can I get those?

@B-Locks have you updated the firmware? My vibration issues were resolved several updates ago, they are now on v.1.31 on the sn30 pro and both of mine are working great.

I had a problem with the soft finish wearing off on my SF30 pro but I emailed 8bitdo and they mailed me new sticks for both it and my SN30 pro, it took a month to get them but they came.

@SwitchForce

Do you have any prove of what you are saying?

I have some older 8bitdo controller's laying around, and none of them needs a dongle to connect wirelessly to my Switch.

@SwitchForce You mean bluetooth? And yeah they do. At least the older ones. The only thing I needed a dongle for was for connecting one to my snes mini. They connect to switch both docked and handheld without one.

@SwitchForce The dongle part only happens if you want to use these controllers to play on the older/retro systems like Analogue, AtGames, NES, SNES, Genesis, NES Mini, SNES Mini, Genesis Mini, PS Mini, GameCube, etc. If you had an Ouya, Android, iOS, PC, Retron 5, Switch, Retro Pi, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, and/or Wii U then you don't need a dongle, just sync the bluetooth to their respected mode and see if they pair. In terms of other controllers; however, you will need a dongle and if possible multiple adapters to be able to use NES, SNES, Saturn, Genesis, Dreamcast, SMS, N64, PS1, PS2, PS3, Atari 2600, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii remote, GameCube, Retron 5, Ouya, Wii U, PS4 or Xbox One controllers for play on the Switch.

I really want this. Doubt I'll have the spare cash to justify buying it just after coming back from my summer holiday. I love my SN30 pro, and one of these would allow me to transfer that to my PC instead of the PlayStation Classic controller I have been using. Look out September's paycheck!

Wish they had it in Europe/Japan SNES colours

Looks pretty slick. I like the USA Snes one.

Very good controllers, I use my SF30 as my main controller

@SwitchForce

You are posting the same misinformation whenever there is a 8bitdo article. Why?

Please stop spreading misinformation. So many other users have previously made it clear to you, that you are wrong about your assertion.

I have two of the oldest 8bitdo controllers. The first ones they made. They have been discontinued a long time ago, but they still received a firmware update, that made them compatible with Switch, without using a dongle. That is a great service from 8bitdo.

i think its funny that these are basically ds4s with a few Pro features.

@HexagonSun agree entirely. The d-pad of the pro was misaligned or something that it kept registering down input when I didn't press it. So while this pad LOOKS great I'm going to pass (sadly) for fear of being burned twice.

i love how the home button is where the heart is

@SwitchForce First off, the Switch does NOT use WiFi to communicate with its controllers. It uses Bluetooth, which allows all first-party controllers to be used on PC or mobile. In fact, Steam has native support for the Pro controller!

Second off, ALL 8BitDo devices use Bluetooth. This includes the N30 Arcade Stick I OWN, which requires no non-Bluetooth adapter for any platform and no adapter at all for Switch!

I am of two minds here. I have the Sn30 Pro controller and it is a really nice controller with some cons. To be fair though, I don't think there is one great Switch controller that works for everything. For my Switch, I use the Wii U pro controller, a JYB pro controller, SN30 pro controller and of course the Joy Cons and they are all good but not one of them is adequate for everything. I did not get the Switch Pro controller because it is too expensive and I have heard loads of people complain about the D-Pad which is unacceptable to me. Wii U Pro controller is near perfect but no gyro so I don't use it with Splatoon 2, and while the D-Pad is very accurate, the position and (I believe) the small size of the D-Pad makes it just a little bit less ideal than I would've liked for fighting games like street fighter. The JYB Pro controller is not ideal for most games except maybe regular adventure games. The D-Pad is quite terrible for fighting games and the joystick is not the best for aiming on games like Fortnite though I think it's ok for Smash Ultimate. The SN30 Pro has a decent D-Pad and while I can pull off my moves in SF or King of Fighters well enough, I sometimes miss them when in the middle of a tense situation. I feel this is mostly due to the smallish size of the controller and also the fact that it is not very ergonomical so I often find myself going back to the Wii U pro controller when I get wrong inputs a few times while playing fighting games. The placing of the joysticks also makes it not ideal for Smash Ultimate or Splatoon 2. The Joy Cons are my favourite for Splatoon 2 (in the absence of a Switch Pro Controller) and it's also mostly ok for Smash but they are less than ideal for any other scenario for me. So...back to the SN30 Pro+ , like I said I am of two (or more) minds. For one, I think with the extension to the bottom of the Controller (to look like basically every other modern controller) it might solve the ergonomical problems I was having with fighting games and so might resolve the issue with wrong inputs. The issues I see here though are that the joysticks are still in the same position and so might probably still be less than ideal for Smash or Splatoon. Also the software and customisation aspects of the controller are all good but I hope the default settings are great and good enough for average users as I am not a big fan of all that tampering with settings and would like a controller that just works from the start

It would be great if I could use the triggers with games like vrally on the Switch. If the racing games are compatibles with the analog triggers I'm in.

@Alztru imho the dpad of the pro controller is very good.

Wow, the sticks looks great and even in years to come will be fine if there's a stick sensitivity option! Will be looking at a review first but will probably go for this and replace my current wired controller when docked. 2 of these for table top local and a set of machina x for handheld seems best so far.

@Alztru I found my Wii U pro always cut connection with 8bitDo stick, only when playing on Switch. :/

No NFC though? Not nitpicking, just asking...

The left joystick is in the wrong spot :/

@Erchitu Really? I have heard some rumours that the issue has been corrected in newer controllers but I have not been able to substantiate that or seen how to tell which ones are the newer controllers so I'm afraid of taking the risk. Besides, a D-Pad that is good enough for Tetris 99 or a platformer might not be good enough for Street Fighter (and I mean for a proper street fighter player that does combos and all that). A D-Pad that's great for Street Fighter is great for anything you need a D-Pad for.

Too bad it didn't come out a year ago like it was supposed to... First it was scheduled for summer 2018, then holidays 2018, then spring 2019, then (vaguely) summer 2019, and now finally a release date, with little to no updates or explanations from 8bitdo during that time. Meh.

https://www.reddit.com/r/8bitdo/comments/a2t355/what_happened_to_the_sn30_pro_controllers/

@Jayofmaya I guess there might be a problem with the receiver then. I haven't had any issues with mine or the SN30 Pro. The JYB controller on the other hand has disconnected randomly a few times.

I have owned 3 different 8bitdo controllers and while I really like the idea of them, the build quality just does not hold up. I have the sn30 pro, nes30 pro and an sn30. The sn30 has been the most reliable as the only issue I've had is it registering false inputs from the dpad. The NES 30 pro I loved at first but after not using it for a couple months it now won't turn on and won't charge, so useless. The sn30 pro I was the most excited for and it ended up being my biggest disappointment. Right out of the box the left analogue stick would not return to centre but instead get stuck on the side, the x button would also get randomly stuck down. I took the controller apart and had to put it back together leaving some of the board and backing screws loose in order to get the issues resolved. I was then ready to play! When I did start to use it for gaming (blazeblue cross tag battle) I started noticing black dust/powder on my hand and my controller once I was done playing. This was the rubber covering the analogue stick breaking down every time I used it. Like I said I want to like these controllers so much but they don't even come close to first party and in some cases will make you worse at the game you're playing.

I'd really prefer to hold one in person and feel the way the analog sticks move, and how squishy/stiff the button presses are before dropping $50 on these. But I am extremely tempted, since I'm 1 set short of having 4 full controllers. Even though it's only on very rare occations that I need 4 controllers, it's always nice not having to make people use a little baby joycon to play Smash.

@Yorumi Superiority is matter of some subjectivity. I think the Pro Controller will ultimately be the more comfortable of the two and it also has HD rumble, longer battery life and an NFC reader. Other than that, the SN30 Pro+ will probably end up having a better D-pad (we'll have to wait and see) as well as these customizable settings and a lower price point. But for some, like me, the aesthetics are not really all that awe-inspiring and the joystick alignment will be a turn-off for some, myself included. If the advantages mentioned are a real game-changer for someone, then yeah, it is superior. But for me, I don't really see the point of this controller because most of those advantages don't really matter to me. What I like most about the 8bitdo controllers generally are their prices and portability. It wasn't that long ago that Pro Controller was down to $57 for a while on Amazon and the SN30 Pro+ is not any more portable than a Pro Controller. So, while I know a lot of people have been amped for this and awaiting it for some time now, I don't think it's quite the big shake-up that people are making it out to be.

@Yorumi It does have HD rumble and as for the sticks it was stated that some, like myself, will find it to be a turn-off. This is all about a matter of preference. I never felt comfortable with Sony's Dualshock controllers even when they first came out. Microsoft's X-Box 360 design has been my favorite layout ever since it was released and that's why, to me, the Pro Controller's layout is preferable to 8bitdo's, especially for games where the left joystick is the primary method of movement. In games where the D-pad is the primary method I would think that 8bitdo controllers are generally better from the placement alone. Some will not care that 8bitdo's controllers offer shorter battery spans and don't have NFC readers, in which case they should go get an 8bitdo if cost is also a factor. I'm sure many people have nothing but good things to say about the build quality of 8bitdo's controllers. But, it doesn't require much research to see that their stuff is still not quite as reliable as Nintendo's own Pro Controller. Better than Hori or Power A? Possible, perhaps even likely. Better than Nyko or other third-party pads, almost certainly.

@Yorumi A statement was made as though it were an incontrovertibly objective fact that this particular controller which, mind, has not been released yet, is "...superior in every way to a pro-controller." That wasn't correct. It is superior in some ways to some people but also inferior in some ways to some people. Some times what people write and what they actually mean to say are two different things. If the original statement was about only the cost and the directional pad or even the customizable settings this would have been a totally different conversation.

@J-Plap macros are basically like short cut commands for specific button inputs. basically if youre having a hard time pulling off a shoryureppa or air tatsu in street fighter, you can assign a single button to do it for you

I don't really need all the extras but it's like a SNES controller with handles and control sticks. Think I may end up buying one of these but hope there's no sync issues with multiple controllers.

@Alztru Absolutely good imho. You should try one. I used to play a lot Street Fighter, and the dpad is OK, no issues or problems, very very good. I stopped playing Street Fighter on the Switch becouse I was really disappointed by the one I owned the first months after the launch of the console, but the Pro controller is absolutely good for it imho. And the analog sticks are very good for some driving games or for fps, while for the accurate aiming I like to use the motion controls. Even the Wii U Pro controller is very good, but imho the switch pro controller is better. Just try one if you have a chance.

If they release a SNES edition with with proper coloured buttons rather than the drab purple American version, I'll be interested.

I will ill be getting one for sure, I know it is blasphemy but I am kind of digging the black one if there is not going to be a Super Famicom color scheme.

I got like 10 controllers I can use for the Switch. I'm not buying another one unless it has HD Rumble. I don't understand what's the hold up; surely they know their customers would prefer it to have the same bells and whistles as the 1st party controller.

Those look like PS4 joysticks, prefer non-horizontal personally.

I’m pretty sure if a person wants the Nintendo Pro Controller’s analog stick layout, that person could just...y’know...use the Nintendo Pro Controller. So, complaints about that are pretty illogical.

@SwitchForce

They sell a dongle for the Switch to use stock Playstation and Xbox controllers. Is that what you are thinking of? All of the 8bitdo Bluetooth controllers work with the Switch, Android, OSX, Raspberry PI and Windows.

couldn't wait any longer...3D printed the handles. too bad I cannot post a pic here, they look darn good.

Think I’ll be sticking with the Pro Controller for now.

@thugpipe Late thanks but I updated the firmware and like you said fixed the issues. Thanks a bunch.

@B-Locks glad to help

V1.33 firmware is out and it is a massive improvement to the pairing speeds of the controller as well as adding usb pairing, i definitely recommend the upgrade