At major fighting game tournaments nowadays, developers and publishers tend to reveal new content once a winner has been crowned. While Nintendo fans were hoping this would happen at the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate World Championship, unfortunately, it didn't.
Instead, we got a brief message from the game's director Masahiro Sakurai. Apart from congratulating the winners, he reassured fans more information about the "next DLC fighter" would be shared during next week's Nintendo Direct for E3 2019.
So, we guess we'll just have to wait until then to find out if any of the previous rumours are actually true. For more information about when exactly Nintendo is broadcasting this presentation, check out our E3 2019 Nintendo event guide.
Tell us who you think will be joining the roster in the comments below.
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It would have been quite a shock if it wasn't revealed.
what if I one up you and say they will announce and release 4 more characters in the next 9 months
Considering what happened with Smash 4 and the fact that this is E3, I think it is a safe bet that we’ll see 2 fighters announced, one for immediate download and another for later down the line around August or September.
And at this point, I don’t care who we get, and I don’t mean that in a bad way. As long as what Sakurai and the rest of the Smash developers are able to cook up is fun, I’ll play it.
@Deku-Scrub I think you're right.
If they want to get all 5 characters out by next February, they need to release the second character this month to stay on schedule.
One? Ah, come on...!
With the MS collab and E3 being a high profile gaming event and Banjo been talked about beforehand, even by Phil Spencer, I would expect 2 fighters. One for now/soon, the other given a cutscene for later... Banjo is the soul of the hype over us being with MS heading into E3. No other prime opportunity can be found for the bear and bird with all that’s happened.
I'm excited!
My sister always wanted Okami to be a fighter in this game because Okami has amazing moves in the Okami game that can be in Smash Bros.
But I doubt they would ever put Okami in Smash :/
I can only think of one thing to say about that: "Guh-huh!"
I'm sure that the next DLC Super Smasher will be a video game character.
It'll be wolverine to hype everyone for mua3
Who cares about this? Wheres ma Earthbound 3?
@Wavey84 You're gonna get Goku and you are gonna like it -_-
@Wavey84 -_- you win this round (Wart would have been a fine Mario rep, though when it comes to the Fighterpass i'd much rather have 3rd party characters. Some with fun Spirit boards and who can give us some cool Mii Fighter costumes. I'm rooting for Banjo because i'd love to get some Rareware spirits and Mii Fighter costumes. I really want some Jetforce Gemini mii costumes.
@Majora101 Uh, Dragon Warrior basically invented the J-RPG.
@Deku-Scrub Your entire comment is exactly what I was thinking.
I don't really care who it is either because I already pretty much have the characters I like. I only get the DLC so I can have a complete roster.
@Wavey84
I'd love to see Wart and his minions back in a Mario game. It's time for Wart's Revenge!
@Majora101 I can't say I agree. I'm not particularly hyped for a Dragon Quest character, but I find the argument that DQ is less deserving than Banjo/Kazooie a hard sell from a legacy standpoint. DQ's legacy and impact on not just Nintendo, but the entire gaming industry is immesurable. Of the two it's easier the bigger and more ironic franchise with better worldwide name recognition. Rare's work in platforming is significant, and Banko/Kazooie would be a great character... But of we're basing it on legacy and history, it's hard to day it's more "deserving."
You can argue they'd make a more balanced fighter, or would be a better Match for the roster, sure.
Banjo or bust. With a Click Clock Wood level. Just try getting that music out of your head now.
I hope it's like this just so people would realize it ain't just about third party guest characters that could be DLC.
in other news, water is wet
@Majora101 Crash came out 2 years before Banjo...
@Majora101 Crash came out before, and plays nothing like, Banjo
@Majora101 You talk as if Banjo-Kazooie came before Crash. Just so you know Banjo and Crash exist because of Mario and it was Super Mario 64 that pave way to all of those games.
I doubt many of us are surprised. But I guess it's good to have confirmation. Now I just need to dodge all the leaks, real or fake, for a few more days. Lol
I'm extremely curious to see who's next after Joker. If they follow it up with generic FE protagonist #6, a lot of people will probably be underwhelmed (I'm giving Corrin and Robin a pass, since they actually have their own gimmick.)
Banjo wouldn't make any sense, unless Banjo kazooie would be announced for the Switch.
Cuphead
And Ecco the Dolphin
@HumanDog Actually Banjo and Kazooie was originally first launched on Nintendo consoles, and was part of a company Nintendo still fondly remembers to this day. So it would make complete sense for Banjo to come to Smash Ultimate. Especially since Cloud was made a DLC character in Smash 4.
@PBandSmelly Sebastian Tute is spirit #1079 (deconfirmed).
@Mr_Persona If you want to get her in you should start by practicing her name first. It's Amaterasu and not Ōkami. It would be the same as calling Link "The Legendary Hero", because Ōkami means "Great Deity Wolf". Also, how in the world do you think it's possible for Amaterasu to get in before someone from Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, or Phoenix Wright does? These Capcom franchises seem way more popular.
@Majora101 Banjo-Kazooie would have made way more sense in Smash 64 and Melee, around the time the 4 Banjo-Kazooie games were released on the N64 and GBA. If Microsoft didn't buy them I guess they'd have been a strong candidate for Brawl. But this destiny wasn't meant to be as by that point Banjo wasn't a Nintendo character anymore. Despite that, Dragon Quest has much more relevancy and legacy, it's just harder to pinpoint a main character. I'm indifferent to Erdrick (he is an old character from games that were never released in Europe, isn't he?). Just like Final Fantasy they should go with a newer character. I'd pick the main character of the newest game (DQXI) as that's supposed to be the biggest and best game in the series yet and it's coming to EU/NA (for Switch) by the end of the year. He seems to represent the Dragon Quest series perfectly as well.
@retro_player_22 Toad is spirit #31 and Captain Toad is spirit #32. Toadette is #33. (So all noteworthy Toads are deconfirmed).
@Wavey84 Wart is spirit #47 (deconfirmed)
@SKTTR You would have a point if not for 2 things. 1. Microsoft had made open statements about wanting Banjo in Smash in the past. Not to mention that Microsoft was begging people to vote for Banjo in the Smash 4 Fighter Ballots. So Banjo no longer being owned by Nintendo isn't really an issue since Microsoft really wants the character in. And 2. Have you seen the recent news about the Cable Guy Banjo figure being released at E3? The Cable Guy company had made a ton of professional merch for companies like Sega and Activision. And now Banjo is their most recent statue that will be officially launched at E3. And guess what company Cable Guy listed as the owner of Banjo? Cable Guy listed the Banjo Statue as a Nintendo Product. Not Rare, Not Microsoft, but a Nintendo product. So looks like we are going to have some interesting news this E3.
@retro_player_22 Can you clarify your comment a bit? If you're saying the 80's Mario games paved the way for games like Crash, then sure, you're probably right. But if you mean to say Super Mario 64, specifically, paved the way for other 3D platformers including Crash, then that would be misinformation, since Crash Bandicoot and Super Mario 64 were in development at roughly the same time.
@SKTTR He said he wanted Amaterasu in Smash because of his sister, so maybe he's never even played it before. Maybe he's just watched her play bits and pieces. Either way, "Amaterasu" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue if you aren't well versed in Japanese. Heck, half of the time Issun is just calling her "Ammy" or the villagers call her Shiranui, so I get the name pretty mixed up, myself. Whether it's likely or not, I would love to see Amaterasu in Smash as well, and I think it's respectable he wants her in because of his sister. I don't think it's impossible, but we all have our dream characters, do we not? As far as your other replies about characters being Spirits, Lucas was already a trophy in Smash for Wii U before he became a DLC fighter, and that didn't stop him from getting in.
It looks like you're pretty new here, @Mr_Persona, so allow me to give you a warm welcome to the community!
Lol I already forgot about future DLC.
So yeah I really want to know who is next.
(dragon quest)
I just want Rex & Pyra, but I doubt they will ever get in.
Come on Banjo!
I do hope we get a dragonquest rep. Slime would be hilarious. Maybe even Rocket in a little battletank.
Edit: didn’t get slime but I am happy!!!
@NorseGamerTommy Me too! Would be even cooler if Mythra made it in as well!
they should add "Sports Mario"
cuz we need more marios in smash
@HobbitGamer that would be soo good
The seasons change in the background and effect the stage itself!
Spring could rain so much it creates a river that gushes through
Summer could create hotspots on the stage that cause heat damage, or bring out a load of bees that attack
Autumn could have those annoying birds around the stage
And Winter would be all slippery.
All while that music is looping over and over again.
Yes please.
@Majora101 I respectfully disagree. Banjo hasn’t been relevant for years. Dragon Quest is a phenomenon that spans 11 games in a series that is still running. And I’m saying that as a fan of Banjo who finished both original games to 100%.
Hoping for Banjo.
@mcdreamer And their final smash could be the thing that happens in chapter 8 (just not to spoil if someone haven't beaten the game)
Not to be hating on Smash in any way because I think it's a masterpiece despite not being my bag, but I do hope the pacing of this year's E3 Direct is a little more balanced than last year's.
Anyway, always look forward to seeing what Sakurai and his team have planned.
Imagine the rage if Yooka-Laylee were announced instead of Banjo-Kazooie, and the Bird and Bear ends up another trolling from King Dedede. And with Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair announced, it makes perfect sense.
@Majora101 Sure, a random 3d platforming duo from the 90's who people remember for their two games in a semi-unpopular Nintendo console deserves representation far more than the franchise that is the father of one of the biggest gaming genres, the JRPGs.
Not to mention DQ had far more games and is a Japanese franchise, something Smash (and Japanese companies in general) prefer much over Western franchises and companies. Oh, and Dragon Quest is still extremely popular in Japan to this day, to the point that even most people not familiar with video games know what it is, or recognize the slimes at least.
Sure, the Banjo games had some hand in popularizing the 3D platformer genre, but they still would have existed without them (Mario 64, for example had a much bigger role in the matter, and came out earlier), but we probably wouldn't have got Final Fantasy, the Mother series, Golden Sun, or heck, even Pokémon if it wasn't for Dragon Quest.
...That said, I really enjoyed both Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie, and think that they could be really fun in Smash and that they have quite a chance to be in. But saying BK is "200% more deserving" than Dragon Quest is just laughable.
Yep, I kinda figured it would be. Rooting for Banjo, but I’m not gonna kick and scream if it doesn’t happen.
@Krisi We definitely wouldn't have Pokemon without Dragon Quest, remember that training monsters was pioneered by Hand of the heavenly bride.
That's 5 mins of the 40 min direct then as they'll probably show some Smash amiibos too.
I just want a few surprises.
@Krisi While I don’t think any fighter is ‘more deserving’ than another, some folks’ points about who’s relevance is what start to look silly when it’s recalled that Ness was only in an SNES game that was pretty unknown in the US at the time and didn’t even reach Europe. Then there’s things like Cloud or Bayo, too. I think it’s just silly to justify wanting something. It’s okay with me whoever they add, I’ve already got folks on the roster I haven’t even used.
Shrek.
Taunts can be conversations between Shrek and Donkey about the other fighters.
Human Shrek can be an echo fighter.
@HobbitGamer You also had Marth and Roy in Melee at a time when no Fire Emblem game had been released in the West. Their inclusion in the game, though, can definitely be credited with raising enough interest in the series for Nintendo to localize them, starting with Fire Emblem (The Blazing Blade) on the GBA.
You could also make the case that Ness's inclusion is what revived interest in Earthbound.
I want Mythra as a DLC charactet, barring that, it could be Rex with Pyra & Mythra in the background, a la Pokemon Trainer.
Sadly I lost almost all hope after the Mii costume.
@AlphaElite I wish that would've happened with Lucas. (Arguably, it's happened with Ness, since EarthBound did decently on the Wii U virtual console and other re-releases, and Beginnings got localized.)
@Dev893 Octolings are spirit #1042 (deconfirmed)
@Rexenolith @Luna_110 Rex #966, Pyra #967, Mythra #968 are all spirits, also Rex Mii costume (deconfirmed).
@Rafke Rayman is spirit #1285 (deconfirmed).
Here are some Nintendo characters that are not spirits or costumes: Porky Minch (EarthBound), Adeleine (Kirby), Doshin The Giant, Sylux (Metroid Prime Hunters), Océane Rouvier (Endless Ocean), Ricky Winterborn (Wave Race/1080°), Jumpin' Jim Rivers (Excitebike 64), Foreman Spike (Wrecking Crew), Mike Jones (StarTropics)...
@SKTTR You’re really bringing down the mood. Spirits aren’t necessarily a deconfirmation at this stage, that has not been detailed by Sakurai nor Nintendo.
@SKTTR Inklings are also a Mii costume, so it doesn’t necessarily deconfirm anyone if they have a Mii costume
@Rafke True. I just think he deserves 2 slots.
Banjo?
Waluigi?
Skull Kid?
@SKTTR
can you calm down plz, l know what Okami means and people call her that cause its another way like its another nickname.
And l was just saying they might put Amy in smash bros because her game was popular in Japan and lots of people loved the Okami game. And l'm pretty sure people still play the game just not as often because the game is old. Also l didn't say 100% for sure she will be added, l said maybe but l doubt it she will be added.
@BlueOcean
I don't think Skull kid will be a fighter because he is already in the game as a fighter item, but who knows.
@Not_Soos
No l finished the game twice but l still call her Okami because lots of people call her that. Like if l just said "Ammy" people will be like who? So that's why l just stick with Okami.
Also yeah it would be nice to see her as a fighter but the people only wants popular characters from popluar games. Btw thanks for the welcoming
@Mr_Persona Before this, I’ve never seen the wolf be called Okami 😂. It is like calling Link by Zelda, or Samus by Metroid, though.
@Majora101 not every smash fighter has to adhere to the needs of western gamers, and Dragon Quest is already a significantly influential franchise. It literally birthed the concept of a JRPG, even though it wasn't necessarily well recognized in America. Why do you people think that only YOU have a say in who gets in. While Banjo and Kazooie would be awesome picks, that doesn't mean you exclude those who want more niche characters. I wouldn't even call Dragon Quest a niche franchise considering it is probably the grandfather of all Japanese RPGs (yes even more so than Final Fantasy). If Erdrick gets in, it should be celebrated. If Banjo and Kazooie get in, it should also be celebrated. One character choice doesn't deserve to eclipse the other, because it's a pick from someone in the West. That doesn't outweigh the needs and wants of those in Japan, where Smash, and over half of these franchises represented were conceived. I have my characters, and you have yours, so leave it at that and stop acting so entitled.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Sorry this statement just really pisses me off
EDIT: The amount of dislikes that this comment is getting just proved my point about Western gamers feeling entitled to getting characters they want. I said Erdrick and Banjo-Kazooie should both be celebrated if either of them get in. One doesnt deserve attention over the other.
As long as we don’t get Doom Guy or Minecraft guy I’m fine
Pink Gold Peach!!
@Mr_Persona On this comment section we don't have many babies. But we have many people that played Okami on the Wii and the sequel on 3DS and now the HD remaster on Switch. Amaterasu, that's what she's called. We all had enough time to learn her name in our 90 hour playthroughs. We all can learn new names, especially if it's a beautiful character from a fantastic game that you want to get popular enough to have better chances in a Smash Bros. game some day.
@Not_Soos @TheFanatic @Anri02 I know. For me spirits are deconfirming fighters unless proved otherwise.
@BlueOcean
Waluigi is spirit #35 and also Assist Trophy (deconfirmed)
Skull Kid is spirit #205 (deconfirmed)
The last DLC never did anything for me because I've never played Persona 5 (not my sort of games)
Some of the rumors like Crash or Banjo are quite interesting.. Though I can understand why people would want more 1st party nintendo characters opposed to more third party
@HobbitGamer
Sorta that way but laugh all you want cause idk what you people say.
Listen everyone its okay what you call characters like some people might say Zelda instead of Link, just stick what your most use2 even it can be silly for other people but who cares.
@SKTTR
I'm not stupid okay
@SKTTR It just seems like you’re being unusually brutal
@TheFanatic It's not brutal when you realise that all my favourite characters are deconfirmed as well! Spirits of Chibi-Robo, Elma, Zael, Saki Amamiya, Shadow the Hedgehog, Dixie Kong, Kyle Hyde, Bandana Waddle Dee, K.K. Slider, Black Shadow, etc. etc. etc. exist in the game! That is truly brutal! I have the biggest loss here!
@SKTTR First you dash the hopes of others, then you make your pining seem greater then others.
@TheFanatic The thing is, if they release one of those spirits as a fighter, then everyone will be entitled again. Why Isaac? Why not Geno? Why not Waluigi? Why not Dr. Eggman? Why not Rex? Why not Spring Man? Why not Dillon? Why Why Why?
Judging by the datamines, I bet that Erdrick will be the next DLC fighter. Like a lot of you, I would love to have Banjo and Kazooie playable, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that for obvious reasons. I also want to see Crash Bandicoot playable, which would be more feasible because after the PS1 days, Crash games were coming out on all platforms.
Those are just pipe dreams of mine, though, so I'm not expecting much. We'll see who makes the cut at E3.
@SKTTR Hate to burst your bubble, but the protagonist's name in Okami is literally Ookami Amaterasu (via the official art book). The Ookami bit is not just a title, it's a name playing on the Japanese word for wolf.
A DQ rep in Smash is not a stretch at all tbf, as the series did first start in the Famicom days with Nintendo. Im glad I did a background check back then, as Im not a DQ player.
@Majora101 I'm pretty sure Dragon Quest is bigger in Japan than Banjo ever was in the West actually.
@BlueBlur101 I don't understand why your comment is getting disliked.
No, really?! Mind blown!
@Mr_Persona @SKTTR Just my own wishes, not going any further.
@Mr_Persona No judgement from me; As long as you’re enjoying what you play it’s all that matters! 😁
@BlueOcean
I understand and I do wish Waluigi was a fighter because the pass years people been wanting him to be a fighter.
Wario needs his brother to join the FIGHT
@Mr_Persona Yeah, I know some people hate him just as much as some people hate other Nintendo characters but being totally honest Waluigi deserves to be part of SSB more than anyone else and certainly more than all these clone characters that make little sense. Battles featuring Wario vs. Waluigi would be the funniest thing ever, in between.
Of course I would love Banjo to join and he already has a ton of attack moves and even flying moves with Kazooie.
@HobbitGamer Yeah, I kinda agree that the concept of deserving characters is a bit silly. It does make more sense to include more relevant characters or ones that have more history, but yeah, there are plenty of characters that don't really fit the bill at all.
@SKTTR I think unrepresented franchises with music in the game in the "other" category are also deconfirmed, because they usually have a different category, and taking them out of one and putting them into another would also change what stages can play what music.
So because of this, and also the fact that almost every Nintendo character that has any chance already has a spirit, I strongly believe that only 3rd party characters will be DLC. And, you know, someone from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Mike Jones is a special case because neither of the Startropics games came out in Japan in any way, so pretty much everyone working on the core game is probably unaware they even exist.
@SKTTR That's a good question: Why?
There's nothing wrong with people advocating for the characters they want, that's how we got several of these characters.
It's not "entitlement", it's voicing your opinion on improving a product to a corporation who produces said product in exchange for your money; it's a two-way street.
I'm betting all the DLC fighters will be 3rd party in this pass.
Banjo is probably a lock and a DQ character is likely but MAYBE NOT, since there were apparently problems with Square allowing Cloud to return and he was the last to be locked down in the base game.
REALLY hoping DOOMGUY will make it in, that would be INSANE.
Minecraft Steve, Master Chief, Dante, Ryu from Ninja Gaiden, a Dark Souls character, a Resident Evil character, Diablo, Rayman, Lara Croft, etc. are all a possibility as well.
@NorseGamerTommy That would be amazing!
@BlueOcean I'd love to see Waluigi as well
I can agree with people who want some 1st party characters, we already have plenty of third party.. That said I'd love to see Banjo (or Crash).. I think Crash would go well because then you could have Sonic vs Mario vs Crash.. The ultimate face off!
Just 40 (ish) hours remains and if Miyamoto appears in the Xbox E3, then the first surprise will be today 😊
Edit: He didn't appear because the rumor was fake 😅
@TeslaChippie You're not bursting anything. If Amaterasu comes to Smash she will be refered to as "Amaterasu", not Okami, not Ookami Amaterasu, not Ammy.
@Krisi Good observation. Yeah, you're probably right. Even though, I think they can pull a stunt and give a new character (one that now is referenced in "Other Music") a whole pack of new music (and stage) and leave the Other section as is.
If they add someone from Fire Emblem: Three Houses they might also add another Pokémon (from Sword and Shield). Two over-represented franchises (imo). Support towards these seemingly never ends, but we all know why.
@ddowler85 Yeah, I'm just informing people about a characters chance to appear in the Smash Ultimate Fighters Pass. Of course it's totally fine to wish for any videogame character to be in Smash 6 or a second Fighters Pass, but we're not there yet.
Crash Bashes In To Smash
Crash would be cool, and the move sets would probably be fun (although Duck Hunt is probably similar). Admittedly there is no shortage of sword-based fighters in Smash but I would also love to see a Dragon Quest character — Erdrick/Roto or one of the newer characters!
@Doktor-Mandrake Absolutely!
@PBandSmelly it may not be the next fighter, but one of the last remaining DLC fighters will be Master Chief. I have a hunch. But who I really want is Bonk.
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