id Software Has "No Plans" For Rage 2 On The Nintendo Switch Right Now

Honestly, that's understandable. I would always love for more games, but Bethesda hasn't been petering out on us unlike some other developers. With Young Blood's surprise announcement, you could expect more, just that Rage 2 isn't one of them.

Although, I do want a port of DOOM BFG edition. Doom 3 isn't the best game, but why not have it along with Doom and Doom 2 to have every single Doom on the Switch? (Doom 64 anyone?)

Doom Eternal for the Switch isn't even on Amazon, so I'm beginning to think that developers have given up trying to optimize their games for the Switch, and Panic Button is being overworked. Why isn't there any more studios like them?

Rage runs at 60fps on Xbox 360 and PS3. They should bring it to Switch, or try to use that level of graphics to bring a version of Rage 2 to Switch at 60fps. That would be cool!

April fools am I right?... Right?

Well, there's the Fallout games, Dishonored and Prey for Bethesda to consider.

Bethesda have been great for Switch, the console's best 3rd party for sure. Rage 2 may not be possible but I expect we'll get 1 or 2 announcements at E3. The Evil Within 2 is what I hope for most.

it was obvious

@60frames-please it would be to much work and i doubt that they are willing to dedicate that much time and resources

Translation: Panic Button has too much on their plate already.

@60frames-please
Rage 2 is 30 FPS on the base PS4/XBO.

I would prefer to see ports of Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Fallout New Vegas over this.

@penamiguel92 Everything we know they are working on right now is all stuff they are super familiar with. They codeveloped Hob and Torchlight runs on the same engine. Wolf Youngblood and DOOM Eternal also use idtech 6 which they have been playing with for at least 3 years now. Honestly, outside of Id themselves, there is probably no one as familiar with their engine as Panic Button.

As for why there aren't other studios like them, Panic Button has had access to prototype Switch hardware since supposedly 2012 (that is not a typo.)

@penamiguel92 Youngblood wasn’t listed for Switch until they announced it the other day even though we knew it was coming. Once they have a release date it will be there.

Not especially surprising. I always suspected that Rage 2 would be too big for the Switch.

@MaverickSlasher Yeah, I just hope that if I mention what I'd like in a game it might start happening more often.

@westman98 Oh, I didn't know that. That's really sad. It's so annoying when they cut frame rates in half for remakes or sequels! Rage looks awesome on PS3 and Xbox 360, very smooth and very responsive.

@penamiguel92

“Doom Eternal for the Switch isn't even on Amazon, so I'm beginning to think that developers have given up trying to optimize their games for the Switch, and Panic Button is being overworked.“

No I think its fine, I wouldn’t worry too much. Youngblood for Switch was MIA until that last trailer a few days ago. Panic Button is certainly busy, but they’ve shown they are more than capable of handling multiple projects around the same time.

@60frames-please rage 1 wasnt tha good unfortuntely

Yeah, you can't expect every big profile game to go on Switch, and that's fine.

I'd happily take a bunch of other Bethesda titles though such as Rage 1, Evil Within, Fallout 3 etc.

@MaverickSlasher Yeah, I've only played it for an hour or so. I was impressed with the graphics, but can't give an informed opinion on the game as a whole.

@Jaalsky "50bg game and it still looks like ass highest setting on PC."

That's the "mega-textures" which ensured that every surface was unique with no repeating patterns, and while the "big picture" looked stunning, often times looking like a render or a hand-drawn image, it lacked fine detail, so things got a bit janky when viewed up close.

The gameplay, however, was solid as hell. One of the best playing FPS games I've ever experienced.

What a Playstation, X1 or PC is for. Anyone who saw the trailer knew there was no way R2 was happening on Switch.

Skip the 200 youtube videos that would pop-up with futile Switch Vs Playstation Rage 2 comparisons. And create a multi-platform game that actually works on Switch.

Is it a shooter? Does it have rubble? Is it another bobbing gun game? Is it post apocalyptic? Has there not been thousands of these games out there since the 90s? Then I'm not really missing out.

Get that pro model out and fast. I love the Switch but i'd love it even more if i didnt have to buy games for other platforms.

Saving the announcement for E3 then

And this news surprises who?

IIRC Rage 2 isn't the idtech6 engine that Panic Button are familiar with, instead it's Avalanche's Apex engine, and it struggles to hit 30fps on the PS4/Xbox One, so it was probably always going to be unlikely to be ported to the Switch.

I think it's a good thing Bethesda doesn't port it if it wont stack up to an accaptable quality. Games like Doom and Wolf 2 really comes close to the pain treshold when the resolution drops to 480p and the games assets looks like undetailed dough. Would be really nice if Bethesda considered porting some of its older PS3/360-library to Switch. Games like The New Order and The Evil Within would probably look rather good on Switch.

No plans? No problem! Just improvise!

@Medic_alert

Well, the problem is obviously that a game like Wolf 2 is a really bad match with the Switch. But I must give it that it atleast runs rather fine. I don't think Switch needs every high-end multiplattform game out there. The best thing would be a mix of new exclusives made to run well on the Switch and upgraded handheld versions of last gen games.

I'D be happy with a Classic Collection of ALL original Doom content with Widescreen etc... Just a very competent way to play all the Doom, Doom 2, Final Doom, even Doom 64 levels but in the original graphics – and with lots of option for graphics etc akin to the Sega 'Ages' approach.

I bought Ultimate Doom on Steam so I have all the WADs but it's bloody difficult to set-up, and had zero help to do so. Basically it's not sold as a proper ready to go game. So far the best way I've got to play those original games is with 'Chocolate Doom' on my Vita.

When no news IS the news!!

Considering the end of the game will be DLC, no thanks.

When ID is willing to sell complete games I will be willing to buy them.

Well as its Avalanche studio making the game, I'm not very excited about Rage 2 even though I loved the first game. JC3, JC4 and now Generation Zero have all sucked.

Its a shame but understandable. Playing Rage now on my PC and the game is excellent. Rage 2 looks even better. Maybe next year on the Switch Pro?

@Zuljaras It just means the pro will be able to play all the games such as this that the current version cannot play. On a seemingly daily basis we find anothera rticle about either a game that cannot be ported or has been and runs terribly. The Switch is a great platform but it will never find it full potential until it can level that playing field somewhat. Those new systems are coming whether you think it's a good idea or not.

This is why Nintendo needs to abandon their underpowered-hardware BS. It was cute during the Wii Days, but those days are long gone.

@Zuljaras You missed the point entirely. I didnt mean abandon the Switch, but rather abandon their current business model for future consoles (5-6 years from now).

I loved the first Rage on PC, but years passed and now the only modern system I like to play games is the Switch. So I'll wait for a Nintendo console release eventually.

@diablo2 Yes, clearly Switch is a failure.

@NEStalgia Serious question: What's your IQ level? You seem to be lacking a basic understanding of the main discussion here. Anyway nevermind, don't answer that. Im out.

@diablo2 There's no understanding involved here. Switch is a resounding commercial success. Wii was a resounding commercial success. DS was an unprecedented in the industry commercial success. 3DS was/is a resounding commercial success. Game Boy was a resounding commercial success. Nintendo's "withered technology" business model has consistently produced tremendous commercial success for 30 years. Their notable failures of Virtual Boy and GameCube occurred when they tried to move into pushing technology instead of making the most of old technology. WiiU stands alone as a sort of retro-future product that was disastrously advertised, and largely was the wrong product at the wrong time for a number of reasons and was a victim, in part, of their market focus shift during the Wii which targeted a new market that was no longer interested.

Given 30 years of successes, and only 3 failures, 2 of those coming from trying to push new technology instead of using aged tech in a field where performance tech is already dominated by two other larger companies plus all of the PC industry, what business genius would actually abandon that model? While it's in the middle of tremendous success, no less?

Nintendo isn't selling "another piece of hardware to play id's PC games on." And if Google and Ubisoft have their way, everyone's phone will be doing that anyway. Nintendo is selling their own little self-contained world of gaming. And people have been buying for decades. If id's PC games make it over, great. If not, that's not critical to what Nintendo is selling. But it remains a place to play id's other PC games in a different format.

If the model is abandoned it's because streaming/services arrives at a point that dedicated hardware is no longer viable.

@Zuljaras You just contradicted yourself, what you claim they will and won't make are exactly what they are goign to make. it's goign to be an updated more pwoerful system. how esle do you suppose it will display higher resolution etc as you state??

@diablo2 I would say the issue is not enough involvement with 3rd parties to get alternatives made. If a game can't run on the platform, why not incentivize an exclusive that plays to its strengths rather than hope for a port that is impressive, but still inferior across the board, you know?

Not a big deal, the last RAGE game was rubbish
we already got Doom and Wolf games coming to the Switch anyway

But the new switch model will make it work.

It's always this "right now".

But I hope the devs make Rage 2 scalable enough like Doom and Wolfenstein so that it works on the Switch.

@erv There is no new Switch model. Don't believe all the BS that people try to spread online.

Please port Fallout 76. Kthxbai

@Zuljaras You've done it again. " Future games " exactly games that are on other systems will come to the pro in the future because the current system cannot handle them. The refresh for both the xbox and PS4 was at the three year point, by the time these actually come out it will be the three year point. This is just standard practice.

@Zuljaras Look at it from the perspective of a 3RD party developer, now obviously firstly it would all be dependant on install abse and sales for the pro model, but if they have a game that they can port and run on the new system but that won't run on the old system do you think they would port it on the basis that there are enough systems for them to make money or not port it because some people cannot play it??

Again you haven't answered my point but thats o.k, So if you have a platform that begins to essentially become obsolete like the wiiu did as far as 3rd party games because it either isn't powerful enough to run the games or is too difficult to program the games everyone is making that's an o.k situation is what you are saying? All they will do is phase out the switch as we know it and make the more advanced version the mainstay. We all know Nintendo's history Gamecube aside has been fraught with systems which were underpowered to their conterparts but never has their been a time like now where games are utilising hardware as much so it wasn't as big a deal. You can spin it around any which way you want but the fact of the matter is there will be a stronger console. Maybe they will offer a trade in deal on current gen systems to get people to adopt. The Switch should of never been released with the chipset that it was. It was out of date by a couple of years at lauch and they are at the limit of where that can go now. If i can play the games i play on PS4 on my Switch then i'm going to stick purely to the Switch and of that happens then Nintendo will take an even bigger piece of the amrket.

As i have already mentioned several times at the point in which they release it will be the same time at which the others upgraded, stop talkinn about two years on the mArket, two years on the market was last month aand they aren't coming out with new systems next month. Games like Pokemon will keep it successfull but will they become the mainstay of the smaller cheapest version of the system that will phase out the 3Ds? I'm going to say yest it will as it's always been a handheld game at it's core. Metroid will be a big boost but its at least two years away and it will be optimized for the more pwoerful system obviously, it might even get a special metroid console, what better way to get people to jump ship to play the latest instalment.

@ritouf that is my plan