With Christmas on the way, lots of folks will be tempted to pick up something like the AtGames' Bandai Namco Flashback Blast for their loved ones who enjoy retro gaming. At only $20 with classic Namco arcade titles packed on to a retro style 6 button joypad with an HDMI dongle, this seems like a bargain too good to be true.
For the price, YouTuber John Hancock praised the Bandai Namco Flashback Blast when he received his press unit last month. The games included were actual arcade versions, so people buying this would get a pretty decent version of Pac-Man and other classic games for their money. You can check out John's verdict here:
However, from the time the press units were sent out, something appears to have been lost in translation as angry consumers are finding that the Bandai Namco Flashback Blast is now actually stuffed with NES ROMs of these games, rather than the superior arcade versions.
Here's what John had to say in his follow-up video:
Wow, just wow. The Atgames Bandai Namco Blast that I was given to review a month ago ended up not being the one that Atgames sent to stores. Both standard and Walmart units are using the NES roms of classic arcade games (confirmed with talking to ATgames). This version of the product is BAD. I do not support this business practice whatsoever and please avoid this product.
Needless to say, AtGames does not have the best reputation in the retro games arena right now. When its name got attached to the upcoming SEGA Genesis Mini, the product was delayed and it appears that SEGA has gone back to the drawing board to try and figure out how to make a mini console which is of a similar quality to the Super Nintendo Mini.
By sending superior review units to media outlets and YouTubers, it certainly does seem quite deceptive. However, it would seem that in this case, the company's hand has been forced - perhaps it never had the rights to the arcade ROMs in the first place?
Let us know what you make of all this with a comment below.
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How do they keep getting licenses to produce this crap? It’s like they keep seeking new ways to be the worst of the worst and constantly succeed.
Gross
Looks like AtGames belongs AtDumpster
What a bunch of snake oil salesmen.
To my understanding, ATGames are causing a lot of bridges to be burned now - they no longer have the Intellivision license, killing one of the pillars of their "flashback" line, and I reckon the SEGA license they have will go away next. I can guarantee that Bandai Namco doesn't want to be involved with knowingly deceiving their customers into buying an inferior product, for that matter, so perhaps they'll beat SEGA at the whole "total revocation of licenses" thing.
All in all, there's only one lesson to be learned from AtGames - if your business relies on licenses to remain afloat, do not do things that jeopardise your future ability to work with licensors.
@SuperGhirahim64 To be fair, their Atari and Intellivision flashbacks -were- decent little emulation consoles. Heck, at one point, the Atari flashback was a true SoC clone - no emulation, and you could even solder an old Atari 2600 cartridge port to it to play your original carts!
But, honestly, pretty much everything else they've licensed is garbage. 100% total garbage.
How is this company still in business?
I wish that I could understand their reasoning behind consistently releasing below average products. One would think that they would prefer to build a good reputation, and a solid legacy, for the company. I've never owned anything they've done, and I won't until they can release a product that is on par with what Nintendo is currently offering.
@BitLounger
Nice!
@FragRed They likely bid the cheapest. They tell companies that they can build a plug and play cash-in cheaper than anybody else can.
And then they cut corners so bad that they're finally burning bridges with publishers.
How are these morons still in business again? I hope they get shut down immediately.
Even if we give the benefit of doubt and suggest that they originally planned Arcade versions but then something went wrong and they had to revert to NES ports... (seems hard to believe given the product is seemingly endorsed by the publisher, but benefit of the doubt...) even in that scenario, why didn't they follow up with each "influencer" to inform them of the change BEFORE the product went on sale? They had to ship a unit to each influencer, so it's not like they didn't have a simple list of contacts to inform about the change.
It's difficult to reach any conclusion other than a deliberate act of deception... but for that really low "genuine stocking filler" price, isn't this OK just to be NES roms? I don't understand why they would deceive people over it... it's twenty quid...
The issue isn't why AT Games keeps making cheap products.
The issue is why the original software holders keep allowing them to put their games on the hardware.
Shady business practice for sure.
AtGames is like the modern day equivalent of seeing the LJN logo on the box.
How are these guys still getting these jobs? You’d think after the terrible Genesis minis, everyone would avoid them like the plague.
I don't get how AtGames still exists? Is some secret multi billionaire bank rolling them? Or are they actually turning a profit?
Watch Out!
Walmart is loaded with these things, like 4-5 flavors...
I'm quite hopeful about these My Arcade mini cabinets. There's a Namco Museum version coming out with Pac Man, Galaxian, Dig Dug, Rolling Thunder and more on it. I think there's a Pac Man only one already out. Anyone tried it? https://goto.game/my-arcade-bandai-namcoon-two-new-portable-devices
Wow. Sooner AtGames are drummed out of the business the better (as long as everyone gets another job, obv)
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That's shady
Unless I'm getting something wrong, switching from arcade games to NES games would probably require a bit more work than a simple swapping of files, no? "Emulators" have to be switched, and all the code from the menus on their device would probably need to be modified as well to take this into account.
Saying that they "had" to revert to NES roms at the last minute but then not having enough time to update the packaging is hard to believe. I mean, unless you ALREADY had plans for a NES version that was "ready to use as system image", it's actually quite a strecth to say there wasn't enough time to update packaging with the info. Heck, even putting some stickers over the packaging would have been an option.
To me, the fact that they never talked about this before some started to point it out means that they knew very well that it was unnacceptable, but chose to go along with it nevertheless in the hopes no one would notice...
How come companies like Atari, Sega, and Namco are still doing business with such people? Anyone with a brand name and a reputation to protect would normally avoid those, as their licenced products give yours a bad name.
@SuperGhirahim64 In that sense, their branding is a service.
Honestly, I'm glad something like this happened. AtGames have constantly made bad product after bad product without any improvements or even bother listening to the criticism. I hope they realize that what they did was a big mistake and try to improve or at least apologize to their consumers.
Unreal! Nintendo and Sony have it going on, Sega needs to take the reigns and develop their own classic hardware so I can get in on some Sega goodness too. The ROMs on these units probably aren’t even licensed. Sad!
@Curlybobs Guess what? ...Those have NES ROMs in them too. -_-
AtGames seems to be the LJN of the 21'st century
At Games doing what At Games does...
should be at games in an even bigger con. they just prey on people who dont know picking them up for gifts etc. I was lucky my wife took mine back lol.
@tudsworth SEGA already backed out and I am almost positive their are making their mini in house with og hardware potentially.
@BulkSlash I was thinking the same thing. Seems like AtGames and EA are the new LJNs of the gaming industry.
I remember watching YouTube videos of the AtGames Sega Genesis plug-and-play consoles and I was appalled by how atrocious the sound emulation was. This business practice is just another reason to not buy their junk
They had one job and they hbhnhnuunununu up. John Hancock himself got a perfectly good unit, why not just sell that one? What's the problem with including the arcade games? The more I heard about these guys the more they want their customers to hate them.
So...anyone pre-order the Mega SG?
Shovelware.
@tudsworth The Sega license is almost certainly already gone-- Sega pulled the launch of the Megadrive mini unit from Japan in order to start over with a different third party. I think ATGames MAY keep the Atari license, but they're not going to be able to get anyone else to stay on board with the bad press they're getting.
The real question is why they haven't gone bankrupt yet because of all the bullsh*t they've been pulling.
How has Sega not asked Nintendo to make their Mega Drive Mini? At least the PlayStation Classic has a low bar to get past first XD
Give me a 3DS & a Stargate and I'll be just fine
@N00BiSH Oh yeah.
Wow, I remember seeing John's first video on this, I hadn't seen the second.
At first I am surprised, but when I think about it, there is nothing surprising about a company being deceitful like this. The only thing corporations care about is their profits, and if they think they can get away with something and make more profit, they will.
The only thing that keeps companies from giving us total junk, is the fear of reprisals from the government, or concern about losing their market share.
Whatever. The NES port of Pac-Man is my favorite port so I'm happy.
It's either Atari's Terrific Games or Always Trash Games. No in between.
@Curlybobs I had the pac man portable player but sold it. It was genesis versions instead of arcade versions
Bought one of their MegaDrives about a year ago. Worst purchase I've made in a decade. Knew from reviews there would be issues but oh man there was 4x as many as any review said. A real piece of junk in the end.
@tudsworth I assume that they lost the Intellivision licence because there is a new console coming from 'Intellivision', it includes both Intellivision and Atari games
Shameful. Truly shameful.
@MaseSco I think it has something to do with not forcing the Nintendo Seal of Quality on a SEGA Project. It'd be like the days of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, the first SEGA Game on a Nintendo Console. And letting Nintendo make a SEGA Genesis Plug-N-Play would be sacrilege for those Console Wars veterans.
The NES versions of those games are still good, so I think it's pathetic for butthurt YouTubers to be telling people not to buy the device because of that. Yes it's deceptive to give the press one version and consumers another, but for people like Hancock to say the product itself is bad is disgusting and makes me lose any respect I had for him
@YoshiAngemon I was a big SEGA fan back in the early to mid 90s and the N64 converted me to Ninty over the Saturn. Even now my younger self even now thinks a Nintendo made Mega Drive would be sacrilege! However if they could make the Mega Drive mini as good as the SNES mini I'm sure I could shut that little voice up!
I have the atgames megadrive mini released last year, as you go through levels on gain ground the game frame rate gets choppier and choppier until it's unplayable, so underpowered. It's abysmal.
None of the reviews even mentioned that issue because I don't think they played it long enough. Even the modding scene for the damn thing is terrible and hard to do because the unit has so little internal memory.
The best way to play the roms on the mega drive mini is to pull them and inject them into a snes mini with retroarch and use an 8bitdo controller.
@SuperGhirahim64 You could say that they're the LJN of retro consoles. LOL.
Yes bad business practice, it’s about time Namco released the true Arcade Roms though for these systems. Not just using NES versions again and again.
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