Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker started out life as an off-shoot of Super Mario 3D World on the Wii U. As you might recall, though, the conceptualisation of the title was well before then.
During a recent interview with Polygon, the game’s director Shinya Hiratake reiterated how the title was originally going to star Link from The Legend of Zelda. The idea was still essentially the same - with Link exploring diorama-like levels. Much like Toad, Link also couldn’t jump, making him an ideal choice for such a title. He was also in favour because of his love of spelunking.
Other inspirations drawn from the Zelda games were the boss battles. These elements obviously remain in Captain Toad, with encounters against giant creatures including dragons and birds. Hiratake also elaborated on the character swap, explaining how Link was too courageous, so the development team opted with Toad in the end:
We thought Link would be a little too courageous and he would want to fight enemies with his weapons… Captain Toad is still courageous, but maybe a little bit weaker, and by having a character like that we thought we could have the player focus on the geography and turning the camera, that kind of gameplay. In the end I think it worked out really well.
This isn't the first time Hiratake has discussed how Captain Toad was was created. In 2014 he also spoke about the original concept. Tell us in the comments if you would have preferred the iconic hero, or if you feel the time was right for Toad's own game series.
[source polygon.com]
Comments (24)
I feel like I watched a Youtube video that reported this about two weeks ago. Did all the Smash Bros. information make the Nintendo Life team overlook this topic?
@Elvie This is based on an interview posted by Polygon yesterday. I also checked the database on the backend of the site and we haven't covered Captain Toad here on NL in a while.
Should have used Tingle
Smart move, expanded the Nintendo/Mario a lot! Question, what other Zelda spin off are out there?
I remember reading about this years ago...
Edit: The quote from the article provides some further details, but we've known about Captain Toad starting off as a Zelda spin-off prototype for some time now, so I believe the article headline needs a change.
@Francema Games like Hyrule Warriors, Link's Crossbow Training and Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland.
What is this guy talking about? I'm definitely brave! I just prefer not to have enemies chasing me, be in dark places without my flashlight, and have a dragon chase me is all.
I think Captain Toad and the whole Toad Brigade thing is adorable. Gives more Live to the Mushroom Kingdom, and less of a ‘villagers at the bottom of hill of the bad guy’s castle’ trope.
Mario paintball shooter => Splatoon
Link puzzle game => Captain Toad
🤔🤔
This is not the 1st time I hear this,I think you guys posted about this already
@Not_Soos I just checked, Tom covered this in 2014 (when the original Wii U release came out). Our DB only extends back two years, so I did a manual search via Google. Article updated to reflect this.
Thanks for the heads up and sorry to anyone else for any confusion!
@Liam_Doolan Yes! How could I forget about Hyrule Warriors. I have no idea about the rest, I assume they are on 3DS and older consoles. Will check them out! Thanks for enlightening me!!!
@Francema I've always considered Four Swords to be another one, but I think it's officially part of the mainline series? Not 100 percent sure on that. Maybe someone here can verify?
@Liam_Doolan: Both Four Swords games are part of the official timeline, but IMO they almost are spinoff games. To be fair, I think they deserve timeline placement more than Tri Force Heroes.
Don't be dissing triforce heroes
Captain Toad is a wonderful game. I enjoyed it thoroughly on WiiU. The thing that really irks me about all of the WiiU to Switch ports is that it probably means there won't be a new game in those series anytime soon. I'd love a new DKCountry or Captain Toad sequel but these ports probably push those off for a couple years.
@Liam_Doolan
I agree with @Tyranexx . To be fair there's only three four Swords games. The original four Swords was a remake of Link to the Past on the Gameboy Advance with an optional side game which was the four Swords part. Four Swords Adventure was on GameCube and is formally recognized as a Zelda Main Line Game. Four Swords anniversary was a limited-time offer free game available for 3DS owners. I would called this another side game, it was effectively the same type of game as in the Link to the Past remake.
@Orin41 I know and it's a shame. I would like to see Captain Toad become a fairly regular franchise. Oh well, it's selling really well right now so maybe this will prompt Nintendo to make more games in the series. Fire Emblem's received a boost so maybe other game series can too now.
Would've rather seen this as a Zelda title.
so happy they chose toad. the little guy deserves way more attention !!
Didn't Captain Toad appear in the Mario Galaxy games before Mario 3D World? Or do you mean how Captain Toad levels popped up in 3D World?
Man, I really enjoyed 3D World. Playing that game with my roommates in college was one of my best experiences to date with gaming. Even though I wouldn't rate the game stand alone being more than "above average", the experience of playing it in co-op with friends was so good!
@Liam_Doolan To be clear, I wasn't insulting you guys, it was just me messing around. Anyway, I finally managed to find the video I was talking about that reported this and it is actually a few years old.
Although, I legitimately do wonder how your site and others like Polygon missed this information, it just seems weird that now it is being written and talked about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YEC2isxtVo
@Elvie We got to the bottom of this in the end (see comment #12). Also updated the post following this discovery. Thanks for the heads up!
@Liam_Doolan Yeah, anytime.
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