Nintendo's Share Price Falls Yet Again With A Lack Of Game Announcements Possibly To Blame

Sluggish sales?
What are these investors smoking?

"Sluggish sales of the Switch"

Best individual SKU in the US month on month, and 40k a week low week on week in Japan, just like last year?

Apparently expectations need to be lowered because damn, that aint what I call sluggish. That's consistent.

Also note they said "Foreign investors", which means the western folk, which means the ones who want instant returns of high value or none at all. The ones who fund EA and Activision among others.

Buy low, sell high, cash out kind of Wall Street Wolves.

Also this ignores how Nintendo has just had several management shifts, no doubt a factor, and uncertainty over the seeming never ending money fountain that is 3DS.

Not suprising as only showed 3 first party games (Well 4 if you split out the Pokemon games, but those arent even originals just remakes anyways), when we are awaiting news on Yoshi and Metroid, but they didnt show any of them, just concetrated on Smash to divert attention. Sorry we don't need 30mins of explaining the characters, the people who have played it and will play it already know these things

My personal investment in Nintendo has never been higher.

fing dicks, i have significant amount invested in N, investors hate uncertainty, if u got more games announce them

Yep. This isn’t surprising. Nintendo should have done more at E3.... NO excuse for that. They need a direct quickly even though I doubt it. I don’t think we will see another one until August.

@jockmahon
Watch your language, please.

@jockmahon As I mentioned on twitter, Investors work on the short term. They dont care whats coming in 2-3 years, because low and behold, they may not be around by then, they could have sold.

They want to know whats coming in the next few months, so they know if value will rise or fall and act accordingly. If they make investments based on years down the line, thats a huge risk, and investors hate risk, especially western ones as the above tweet alludes to being the issue here.

They want GUARANTEED returns, and they want it NOW.

Plus, announce a game too soon, they will be left waiting. Then they start asking. The longer it takes, the less they want to stick around because it becomes a riskier proposition.

These are one of the very reasons why we have rushed, unfinished games released from the big AAA publishers year and after year. They just HAVE to hit their holiday season targets year on year to please shareholders whilst the actual consumers then have to deal with an unfinished mess and wait for the updates like begging dogs. Of course even Nintendo has been a bit guilty of this recently; Xenoblade 2 for example could have used a few more months baking.

Sounds like it’s about time for a new direct. Actual information on Switch Online would be a start.

It's sad to say but I'm really happy to read that !
I even hope that the shares will drop more !

Maybe they need a kick to get back on the rails because E3 was just AWFUL, RIDICULOUS and ATROCIOUS !

The Switch needs GAMES, Switch EXCLUSIVES, Games that make poeple want to buy the system !

Oh, this is nonsense. Ups and downs on share price is not something we (as gamers) should be concerned about.

Does Nintendo make enough money so that they aren't at risk of collapse or takeover? Yes. Move on.

@Cobalt I can assure you that very few investors are concerned about whether we get Switch EXCLUSIVES.

Get her, Jade! Direct coming soon.

If investors cared about games being announced in advance they wouldn't be freaking out about "This year" because next year and beyond has Prime 4, Bayonetta AND Pokemon, plus Fire Emblem and Yoshi.

Those games are dollar signs in the making, an investor, if investors cared about long term announcements like people here claim, wouldn't be freaking out about whats coming THIS YEAR because next year is loaded.

But they are freaking out about this year. They dont remember or care about next year because thats not what they want. They want the money NOW.

"Stock investors are many, varied, ever-changing, and eternal. Fighting them is like fighting a many-headed monster, which, each time a neck is severed, sprouts a head even fiercer and cleverer than before. You are fighting that which is unfixed, mutating, indestructible."

@JamesR

I'm sorry but you're wrong.

Exclusives titles drive sells ! Good sells bring money ! Money is the only thing that investors want ! PERIOD !

@Knuckles-Fajita are Bayonetta and Metroid confirmed for next year?

I feel the drought. After Super Mario Odyssey there hasn't been a Nintendo First Party that has interested me. I would be one of those shareholders... I love Nintendo, but come on, announce some awesome stuff, even if it's 2 years away,

Not surprising people are quick to jump on the doomed bandwagon, after the massive failure that was the Wii U. Nintendo is battling ridiculous expectations, as well.

@bratzdoll Not yet but its looking likely. I should have said next year or later. My bad.

Nintendo is being very helpful to all those gamers that did not buy the Wii U. Porting its old games to the Switch and adding a few new ones.

But us loyal gamers just have the few new games to play. There has been a stream of new games but unless you like playing everything Nintendo make your choice is limited.

If Nintendo have games that can be released soon then say so. E3 was bad, or at least not good.

If like me the Switch is your only home 'big screen' games console then there is a bit of a games drought right now.

@bratzdoll Don't bring Jade Jolie into this! No backrolls, nothing like that

@Cobalt Switch has games that made me buy one. Mario Odyssey, BotW, Aces. Then grabbing Let’s Go and Smash this year. That’s five titles. I’ve also bought Hyrule Warriors, Rayman, DK, Stardew, Harvest Moon, picross. In the 5 months I’ve had my Switch, I’ve had plenty to play and purchase.

Im very very happy with my switvh and love it but id like to see some more killer games on the horizon

@Cobalt I guarantee you - the big AAA third party names would excite investors more than Yoshi, Metroid etc - if a Call of Duty, Madden, Star Wars game, Assassins creed type game or games were announced that would cause a bigger bump than Luigi Mansion - sadly that’s a fact. A multi platform AAA would be the thing that investors would lap up.... not a Nintendo exclusive

@Cobalt
Pardon ?
During July - December 2018, i had registered So Many Switch games to be purchased (Roughly was MORE Than 14 titles).
And No Smash Bros included on my shopping list.
So far the line up 2018 Switch games are quite good for me, even WITHOUT Exclusives that you really want so bad.

If they'd had just 1 more AAA game for later this year, it'd have been fine.
They need to announce more. Even if it's for 2019 release. People just need to see what's coming.

@FX102A personally I think Mario Tennis could have done with an extra 6 months in development as well.

Haha, all these “loyal” Nintendo fans acting like The Company should do more for them. I think folks should understand the difference between feeling appreciated and feeling entitled.

@Stocksy
I DON'T even Need those Lousy AAA 3rd party games for Switch.
Nintendo is NOT a Cookie cutter of those games.

Makes sense. So far, this year has had half-baked exclusives (Kirby, Mario Tennis), first-party ports (Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong), and a ton of (LATE) indie/third-party ports as well. No system sellers like Zelda, Mario, and Splatoon. And Nintendo didn’t have an exciting E3 either unless you’re a Smash fan (and even the new Smash seems lacking in NEW content). I think next year will be great for Nintendo, and Mario Party/Pokemon might be great, but I’m seeing a lot of people who share the investors’ doubts.

What is the point of this news? As a gamer, and not an investor, I do not see why marginal fluctuations in Nintendo's share prices should concern me in the slightest. You don't see any other gaming website routinely reporting how Sony's and Microsoft's stock prices are faring either.

@Knuckles-Fajita I'm sorry, but investors definitely do care about years ahead. There are those of us who invested in 2012 and have seen incredible returns over a 6 year period. What we do is sell a large stake in our investments, because we look at the relative growth of Nintendo over the next year or two (against the previous year) and see that there are better opportunities elsewhere.

Coupled with the fact that the current trade war climate, and the final decision in a few days, it's better to get some dry powder for what's to come.

To correct you, it's the Traders who are looking for immediate profits, investors are almost certainly in it for the long run.

@Knuckles-Fajita Maybe investors would feel more confident if they were confirmed 2019 titles instead of “likely”? I don’t think they’re too far away either but a confirmation wouldn’t hurt.

Would quite like to see that chart of peaks and troughs actually expanded to the 1-year and 5-year views. I’m guessing that overall it’s probably fairly consistent long-term.

@Stocksy

Third party games are not relevant on Switch !
Those games are always better on other platforms...

Look, even a game like Y's VIII, totally the type of game that japanese people love, guess what ? 6143 sells IN JAPAN FOR THE LAUNCH !!! 6143 freaking sells... Just insane !
You know why ? Simply because you can have the same game running 2x better, with better animations, better graphics, better framerate and for a lower price somewhere else...

Nintendo has chosen to go low specs, OK... But if you do that YOU DON'T HAVE THE CHOICE ! You have to bring a lot of exclusives otherwise yeah, 6143 sells kind of...

Not withstanding the very nature of share prices going up and down may I just say, in other news water is wet.
That's all folks.

Investors aren't fans, they're just business people. Nintendo can say they're confident until they're blue in the face, but the fact is the investors aren't convinced and that's starting to show.

@slinkyjynx I'm so sorry for being wrong.

Investors aren't emotional cry baby fanboys like most people here who parade each turd indie game like it's a triple A title.

@Knuckles-Fajita Prime, Bayonetta and Yoshi never sold a lot. Fire Emblem sells reasonably. Pokemon, Mario Kart, Mario, Smash Bros, Wii Fit, Wii Sports and Animal Crossing are triple A titles when it comes to sales. Those sell tens of millions, not a few hundred thousand or a few million.

Yeah, they’ll bounce back once the sales of the let’s go games go through the roof.

I'm confused didn't investors give like a high 90s approval rating to the heads of Nintendo?

I don’t understand how ‘sluggish’ sales can possibly be an issue. It’s outsold all other systems combined in Japan for weeks and Switch sales in Japan have increased each week for the last three weeks at least according to MediaCrate. I suppose sales numbers could be poor in the US, and that could be what this refers to, but I’m just not buying that.

The games lineup I am more inclined to understand - there’s no doubt E3 did not meet most people’s expectations. However, Pokemon and Smash are definitely two HUGE games that will do well, and it’s not like the rest of the lineup of games is terrible. Plus, indies have consistently performed above expectations on the Switch and will continue to do so.

Personally, I’ve been using my Switch much more than I was at this point last year, and I couldn’t be more excited for Octopath and Captain Toad next week.

Unless there is something investors know that we do not, I feel like people are selling their stock because they think Nintendo can’t do any better than they have the past year, and they want to sell high, and that’s what’s caused the price to drop. From where I’m sitting, it’s a great time to be a Nintendo fan, this year looks great, and there is more to come next year.

Just wait until Nintendo reveal their Trump card then it would sent the investors crying back.

@Hyrule
Actually, Water is not wet.

@Cobalt what are you talking about lower price for YS VIII it's 79.99 for the PS4 version last I checked on the store

How much is current Nintendo Stock/share?
In US dollars?

They need to stop with these articles, all it does is makes people defend why they like certain games, I love my switch and I am content with the lineup but if I was an investor I would always be looking at where my investments make the most return, what if these people are selling Nintendo stocks to invest in a completely different market?

The stock market isn t about video games just an FYI

@canucksfan989

19.99€ in France, some days ago.

https://chocobonplan.com/bons-plans/jeux-video-pas-cher/ps4/ys-8-lacrimosa-of-dana-ps4/

i like how Sony's goes down and Nintendo's goes up yesterday. then today Sony's goes up and Nintendo's goes down.

Shareholders discovered Switch's piracy problem.

E3 is so important. Nintendo need to come back around for next year and do a huge blow out. If it means only 2 Directs a year then so be it. Otherwise their stock will go down and up like this.

It nothing to worry about at the end of the day really. But still. It's where people who don't follow video game news like us all year round tend to pay attention to E3. Nothing wrong with that.

The fact that it has been outsold 4 months in a row in the USA by the PS4 could have something to do with it.

This is what happens when you have a pretty lackluster first half of a year and a joke of an E3. 2019 looks like the breakout year now - it just needs a bit more time.

Let us hear Reggie say once more that Nintendo prefers to keep the window between showing and releasing new games as small as possible.

Well...that's NOT what gamers and investors want...REGGIE....

@retro_player_22 they have, it's a mainline Pokemon game. Too bad investors are also people and very impatient, which is what drives stock prices.

They could sell 60 million systems, but it means nothing to me if there aren't games I want to play, I own 2 Nintendo games and one old 3rd party game I'd already played on another system years ago. My switch is in the closet now, that way I don't have to dust it. This has also made room for my "new" PS4. I now have so many great games I'll be happy for at least 3 or more years. After that I'll look at the switch again, but right now it's pretty much dead in my eyes. Not everyone get excited over yoshi, Pokémon, and smash. Good luck Nintendo.

Total snooze news.

The Switch is doing just fine and will do fine whether some crap like CoD is announced for it or not.

The sales they are seeing now are from people who wanted the next thing, but didn't have the money the first year or had other obligations. They need to bring out domino go beyond Zelda and SMO.

I love my switch . Even no there’s a drough this year

@Cobalt I know little bit about finance and markets as I've worked in the industry for 15 years.

"Exclusives titles drive sells ! Good sells bring money ! Money is the only thing that investors want ! PERIOD !"

I think the above is a rather simplistic view of the market. Money is not the only thing investors want. Many investors sacrifice a higher expected return for either a lower day-to-day volatility or to ensure against a crash downturn. Others will follow algorithms to dive in and out at short notice to exploit daily market moves.

Nintendo is a Yen denominated company with a significant amount of their revenues coming from foreign currencies (EUR, USD). This alone makes the company's share price volatile to the domestic investment community.

I would also argue that against a sweeping statement like "exclusive titles drives sales". Some exclusive content allows you to differentiate yourself from others but known shared IPs (FIFA, Call of Duty, etc...) are also important to be successful. It's a balance.

Personally I wouldn't overstate how much knowledge or wisdom the "investor" has. Recall a few years back when Nintendo had to clarify their relationship with Pokemon GO? The investor community was happily buying Nintendo stock (incorrectly) assuming that GO was swelling their bank accounts. A few years before that they were pushing for Nintendo to go third party. A few years before that they didn't see the Wii/DS becoming a success.

There may be investor unease at to whether Nintendo can meet their financial targets given the information available to the public but projecting to a common voice (we want exclusive Switch games) is often foolish.

And anyway, we all know that the message being sent to Nintendo by the market is: "Reggie, Where's Mother 3!!!!!!"

@zool On the contrary, if the Switch is really your only recent console there are a lot of choices fighting for your gaming time. There's only a "drought" if you own a WiiU (so you've already played most of Ninty's first-party Switch offerings) and/or another console from the last generation (so you've already played most of everything else).

The Switch is my first console since the Wii, and I literally don't have enough hours in the day to play all the Switch games I would like to be playing.

Unless you are gonna report on every single fluctuation going then stop with these pointless storys. Plus that was a joke not a suggestion because it is stupid.

This is Nintendo Life and not the Financial Times.

You mean shares can go down as well as up.....witchcraft I tell you.

@John_Deacon,

You are wrong....the system has been out for a year and there is not 3 Mario titles,12 Zelda games,and an Animal crossing title.....no wonder their share price is dropping.

@JamesR

It's funny because you're talking with a guy who worked 10 years in one of the biggest bank of Europe.
For the last years I was doing my job at the risk management and before at the treasury and at the dealingroom. I was in charge for several stuffs such as FOREX, SHARES, bonds, Swaps, QE etc...

You know investors invest to get returns, PERIOD !

@JamesR
"Reggie, Where's Mother 3!!!!!!"

Investors: "My mother is at home..."

@westman98

Mother3! Muhahahahahaa

@Cobalt As pointed out by others, profanity such as that isn't welcome here, so please watch your language

The new President could sneeze during a speech and that would cause the stock to go down between 0.1 and 1.0....

@Cobalt "You know investors invest to get returns, Period!"

Sure, in general. But a simplification of the market. If investors only acted to maximise returns EONIA wouldn't be negative.

@Cobalt
Pretty sure you can't swear like that on this site...

@electrolite77 Yup, tedious indeed. I'm also highly annoyed by the over-excessive use of exclamation marks and capitals, certain people's constant negativity, and the growing number of idiots on this site that actually give likes to such comments.

A lot of these negativists only have a single-minded view (most of the time only consisting of what it means for them, ignoring the rest of the world), or a highly slanted and uninformed opinion, based upon their own lacking knowledge.

All of it combined stirs up feelings of the old me, which was someone with an aggression problem, so that's definitely not good...

They should release a magazine (digital or print or both) and a website just for Switch owners with some sort of social networking component unique to Switch. They gotta find a way to turn Nintendo Switch into a lifestyle that non-owners want to be a part of. Of course some AAA titles would help too. Tennis? Really? 🙄

@westman98

You got the joke, isn't it ?

@Cobalt
Um...
What did you said above ?
Watch your language, please.

@JamesR

Negatives rates are just insane if you start to think in a logical way...
It's even a nonsense but yeah, the system is crumbling if you want my advice.
The worst thing is the state of the Deutchbank, I'd say A CATASTROPHY ! :/

@ThanosReXXX
I'm so granted with Switch games during 2018.
There are more than 12 titles that suitable for me despite of Non Smash Bros and Yada Yada Yada peoples complain about.
Let's those complainer keep barking because we can ignore them.

That's what happens when your time at E3 is spent reading Smash Bros patch-notes.

This character has two different voiceovers
This one can now attack slightly faster
The Wii Fit Trainer looks a bit different now

Well deserved, Nintendo. Now you're paying the price.

although i realy like this system, its a nintendo system. due to graphical shortcome it would never last 2 till max 3 years. i already accepted that before buying the switch.

dont expect anything gets better. the system sells on a slow pace, until metroid 4 arives, after that the system declines.

but in the meantime i have alot of fun with the switch. its almost on everyday.

I really hate Nintendo's strategy of surprising everyone with game announcements. As a customer I find this tactic really annoying. I don't want to be surprised, I want to know well in advance what's coming so I can save and look forward to it. Sony announces games like Spider-Man 4 years in advance and all it does is build hype and confidence in their console's future. Nintendo should take note and do the same. Hopefully these stock market fluctuations force their hand, cause their old way of doing business and treating everything as if it were a Xmas morning surprise is really dumb.

Good. Let it drop. Keep the stock at levels where it deserves to be and not some overly-inflated value.

Sell sell sell. Short term investors are the cancer of the markets, more akin to your local street corner dimebag hustler than legitimate investors. Best to bleed them out now and keep stocks at a realistic, stable level, as opposed to wildly overpriced speculative bubbles. Insecure short term flipping is why the markets are so unstable.

The Nintendo community only knows how to complain.

@geheimxy

Apparently you're not part of that community then...

I've been playing Nintendo since 93', and for as long as I can remember, Nintendo always have these gaming droughts.
Sometimes like this, sometimes worse.

It's hard to keep the momentum going, when you've had such a massive success like Switch.
You got to keep raising the bar, and if you can't get the output out, the bubble can pop.

I think the investors are being a bit pessimistic, considering how Nintendo have turned it around since Wii U.

My only concern is still the £279.99 price tag in the UK.
It's sold well, but the economy still isn't brilliant here.
Most people, family's etc won't shell out that kind of cash for a machine.
I've heard this a lot from people around me, which is fair enough.

A permanently docked budget system could be the solution to that.
But does that take the point of switch away ? Perhaps.

Some people are just interested in playing the games though.
Not the portability aspect.

@Kimyonaakuma backrolls?

Lol sluggish sales? Are they on crack or what?
Its still selling lit hot cakes! Everyone i know who doesnt have a switch yet are saving money, selling old consoles (ps4 or xbox) to buy a switch.
and some even have two switches lol.
at stores they say, when the switch came out they are doing better now.

It goes up when it shouldn't (such as when Pokémon Go launched, despite Nintendo not getting much from the game), and goes down when it shouldn't (right after a phenomenal annual report).
The simple explanation is that the vast majority of investors/day traders are morons.

I've bought the SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U on launch... but personally I felt the Wii U was a letdown. I'm glad the Switch is doing well, but haven't really felt any urgency to buy one. The portability is nice, but from a games perspective it doesn't really feel all that different from the Wii U yet.

Now that they see it has done well they seem to be putting the resources behind it to ensure its' continued success. I just can't help but feel they were a little apprehensive at first and could've doubled or tripled sales if they went all in. That would have gone a long ways toward picking up a lot of extra third party support and moved the needle toward more higher budget games.

@jockmahon Why invest if you hate uncertainty. Surely you know how they operate. High...Low...High...Low.

@JasmineDragon OK, nothing wrong with that if you like a wide choice of games. But like others there are games that don't interest me; Pokemon, Party Games, Splatoon, Arms, Smash Bros, Ports I've already played on the Wii U, most indi games.

I played Skyrim, a six year old ported game that looked six years old. I bought it because there was so little AAA Switch games, having played Zelda, Mario, Mario+Rabbids, Fire Emblem Warriors and a couple of average eshop downloads. There were a couple of others that got only average reviews so I left them. So my next game could be Crash simply because there is nothing better on offer, which is a sad position to be in with a console only in it second year.

Don't forget the Switch is a home console that can be played on the go. Not a handheld device. But it has become a handheld devices and that is what developers see the Switch as. Ideal new platform for mobile phone games. Ports like Skyrim or Crash, advertised as games you can play on the go.

@JasmineDragon Thank you. I agree with you and you agree with me. You did not, for what ever reason, buy the Wii u so you do have a lot of lovely games to play. I on the other hand did buy the Wii U and so have played these games and so I have less to choose from and play on my Switch.

Nintendo has rewarded you for not being loyal and buying the Wii u. Because I and others were loyal we lose out.

Footnote: Some very loyal gamers do buy the games again but I tend on to want to replay games so soon. Specially as these games are resold at full price. Nintendo is not the most loyal company to its customers where £€$¥ are concerned.

I can kind of understand why, this year seems kinda mixed for the Switch (from my perspective)... Kirby, Mario Tennis Aces, & Super Mario Party seem/felt like more of the same, Octopath seems solid, Let's Go, Pikachu & Eevee is just paying $60 to play a free-to-pay game, and Smash seems very suspicious as of now.

Then again it's stock, which randomly drops & rises massively now & then too. :V

@Snaplocket Nintendo’s newer games like MarioTennis, Splatoon, Mario Party, all have had very average single player reviews, I play mostly single player games. This is something Nintendo gets right with Mario Kart and wrong in other games.
Kirby was on my list but again it was reviewed as an easy, no replay value for younger gamers and a short game, selling at full price. I gave it a miss. I think a lot of others did as well.

If Smash Bros has all new levels/stages/battle areas or whatever that are called then it might be a brand new game. Otherwise Nintendo have an almost all new game, which isn't new.

@zool “Loyal”, it’s still cracking me up. the Company creates something for a consumer to purchase. The consumer purchases the creation. This doesn’t equate to loyalty.

Brand loyalty doesn’t mean a consumer is obligated or willing to purchase every good a company offers.

Folks are acting like Nintendo should provide reparations for folks that bought a Wii U.

@zool

We feel kind of the same !

I'm still playing on my Wii U (Tokyo mirage sessions) but not on my Switch because there is nothing to play for me...

I'm waiting really really patiently for Octopath Traveler otherwise, nothing to play on my Switch... :/

@Anti-Matter @ThanosreXXX @GrailUK @ValhallaOutcast
This comment section really just makes me wonder what in the world are some of these folks doing with their lives, in that they can’t find joy in all the video games available to them nowadays
I think I’m going to go play some mario 64, because it’s enjoyable haha

@HobbitGamer Amen, life is too short to give a monkeys about investors' anxiety.

@Syrek24 Amen to all that, comrade!!

@Cobalt the proof that what you say is mostly complete and utter ignorant b....t is the fact that you conveniently leave out that the best sold version of YS was the one on Vita, which runs ten times worse than the switch one, while also forgetting that its global sales (launch aligned) are on par with the Vita/PS4 combined. Go troll somewhere else

to be honest, there arent many firstparty titles on Switch yes, the console exists just bit more than year but i feel as if new Nintendo exclusives were still a way ahead of us. Give us finally first glimpses of Bayonetta 3 or Metroid Prime 4

• give us Golden Sun 4, give us a new Zelda game (2D open world with great dungeons), give us Advance Wars 3, give us Super Mario RPG 2, give us a Switch version of Xenoblade Chronicles X, give us Baten Kaitos 3, give us Final Fantasy XV a tatical RPG/strategy like you did with Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wing, give us The World Ends With You 2, give us Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 3 (with the Demon of Darkness song).....There is a lot of possibilities where Nintendo could go, a lot of new sequels we all want to have and play, but as if Nintendo began to stagnant after the massive success of Breath of the Wild ....and that is not a good sign

Imagine all those games announced ...the Switch would become a gold hive

Many idiot investors likely don't know thing one about games, beyond their special "One-Percenter" games they hold amongst themselves. For example, "who can horde the most of the world's money", and "who can screw over the most little people while hording that money."

I LOVE my Switch, and the offering of games (particularly enjoying the retro gamer's paradise it's been lately). If investors don't like that it hasn't sold 200 million so far, then they can take one of their $10,000 bills and stick it. In a few days, while they're miserable that they're not rich enough, I'll be lovin' life with Octopath Traveler!

Rant over. Stock market types are just such a cancer, on so many levels.

Shareholders really have no clue about Nintendo's reveal schedule do they? They think E3 is the end all be all of video game announcements.

@gortsi

Just a question : are you under drugs ?

I talk about the possibilities that I HAVE to play Y's VIII.
I don't have a Vita but I do have a Switch and a PS4... So I decided to take the best version between those two.

And Why I would spend 60/70€ for a sub version if I can get better for 19.99€ ?
If you call that a troll, I call that to have good sense...

PS :Y's VIII did 28 732 sells on PS4 for the 1st week in Japan BTW...

@Syrek24 When people say there's a Switch drought, they mean there's a 1st party game drought while most of your list are 3rd party games. The recent announcement (lineup not fully revealed) suggests the 1st party game drought probably won't exist thanks to future Direct announcements (I'd guess more Wii U ports).

@HobbitGamer My idea exactly. Just go and play games that you DO like, or buy the console that you DO like, instead of constantly complaining about what you don't like...

Oh, well... humans and their crazy quirks, what are you gonna do about it, right?

By the way: well said, your comment on consumer loyalty. Spot on.

@zool You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

@Cobalt I agree that the E3 direct was lackluster, and Nintendo needs to show some more new games, but the Switch already has plenty of games that sell systems.

You already have a Switch so might want more, but people new to Switch still have Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart 8 DX, Splatoon 2... All those games sell systems and are totally new to those who haven’t buy a Switch yet.

Patience is not a virtue of shareholders or gamers. They all want instant gratification. Want it all, want it now! And then start whining when they get rushed, incomplete games because of that.

This just goes to show that investors are like a lot the gamers today, short term memory and a severe lack of patience. Nintendo can only pump out Zelda and Mario so fast, and as far as a lack of huge first party titles, Pokemon and Smash are coming very soon. Another Pokemon game already announced for next year and Metroid also probably coming next year. Not to mention, this is Nintendo and there is always another Direct coming around the corner with surprises in store. People just need to be patient.

@Cobalt And in the meantime I’ve got soooooooo many things to play on mine that I just can’t keep up. Weird, uh?

Like I said in my previous comment: want it all, want it now!!!!

@maruse

So basically you recommand to be a newcomer then ?

A system needs constant flow if you want my advice.
With your way of thinking, better to not buy a Switch and wait the end. Like that at least, you can discover all those games that you talk about...

PEACE !

I have to admit I'm feeling the first party game drought. I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo game, everything else I play on PC and since Xenoblade 2 released there has been little that's interested me. For the rest of 2018 all the Switch has for me is Octopath Traveller and Valkyria Chronicles 4 (although I'll get it on PC if it comes out on that). 2 games for the next 6 months... That's not great.

Hell, I would be happy with a port of Xenoblade Chronicles X because it's a game I can sink 500 hours into and would keep me going until next year.

@Cobalt No, what I’m saying is that the Switch already has plenty of system sellers for newcomers. You said it needs games that sell systems, didn’t you? It already has that a plenty. Does that mean that it doesn’t need more? Not in the least, and those new games are coming, two of them this year. It would be nice to have a must have first party game every single month... but that’s never going to happen because it’s not feasible.
Unfortunately, in a world where people only care about instant gratification, patience is a virtue that most people lack.

@Cobalt and it's been out for more than a year, that's why it's 20 euros. How old are you? 12? The Vita version sold 45k in its first week , and people could already play that game in two consoles before it came to Switch. Do you want to talk about the rest of sales in Japan? I think not because it doesn't fit your miserable narrative

Lack of game news, partially non-interesting E3 show and no plans for a proper virtual console with N64/GC emulating. We all know why the stocks are dropping..

If they have more games to reveal, why haven’t they done so?

@Alpha008 yup, I've not bought any games since xeno 2... Got aces the other week and it was awful so traded it in today and got a Xbox ... Cmon Ninty! Where are the games!?

Sales have actually doubled recently, according to GameStop:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mynintendonews.com/2018/07/04/gamestop-reveals-nintendo-switch-sales-doubled-during-week-after-nintendos-e3-presentations/amp/

Nintendo’s fine.

@gortsi

To add to your point, people on ResetEra are saying that Ys 8 is doing pretty well in the West. It’s apparently sold almost as much as it did when it launched on PS4 and Vita combined. I mean, it’s not selling amazingly well, but that’s to be expected as it’s a niche series. Not everything has to sell as well as Mario.

Nintendo needs to tease more exclusive content

@HobbitGamer

"This comment section really just makes me wonder what in the world are some of these folks doing with their lives, in that they can’t find joy in all the video games available to them nowadays "

Everybody has bad days. I try to give people the benefit of doubt. And it's not bad to have varying opinions on a messageboard. I mean the Breath of Wild forum replies were all love fest. Which doesn't really add alot of value either to have 200 replies saying "Best Game Ever!!". Part of having a healthy mental state is being able to look past negative responses and realize that you don't have to (nor should you) reply to every one. Because you can't make someone see things the same way. If a message board is ruining your day or making you upset, it's probably time to take a break from that message board and get outside or play some games and enjoy your time.

@cleveland124 none of the comments bothered me any

I would honestly attribute this current stock drop-off to the news that Mario Run has made ~$60 million in revenue. I don't think Nintendo ever officially announced how much revenue the game has generated, and for good reason; $600 million is a terrible revenue figure for a mobile game starring gaming's biggest icon over a ~20 month span.

If there's one thing Nintendo's investors love, it's the mobile gaming market. Nintendo doing so poorly in that space with their first real mobile game outing, premium pricing model or not, is a pretty terrible look. It's especially paltry when compared to Pokemon Go, the other mobile game starring Nintendo's other biggest gaming icon(s).

"They deserve this cause the games I want were not announced and E3 was absolutely abysmal with no games."

Imagine if they added Fall Direct's games on E3 and then Summer 2019 for Fall, and then Winter for Spring... Then what would happen when NEXT YEAR'S E3 rolls around and we already know of everything halfway through 2020?

"Nintendo has no new games for Switch we didn't know about already this year! Better drop stocks."

I am almost glad you all don't run businesses, I wouldn't want to work with you.

@Qwertyninty

August if we're lucky. September seems more likely (hopefully early September).

It's hard to imagine that Nintendo has another big name title for 2018 that they didn't announce at E3, but you never know with Nintendo.

My guess is that they have another Wii U port planned.

@Cobalt Glad to see their stocks drop too. It's not really kicking a dead horse or anything either - because they are doing good. But I don't want them rewarded for getting arrogant when they start doing a little well. I want them hungry. I don't want want them to rush games, but also they are the primary means of new games on the system and that's the bed they made - so they NEED to solve that. LABO is fine whatever, but take that dev money and invest in hiring more studios or something to keep new games coming out faster. Been a really boring year on the console, I have a PS4 but not really my thing. I can see dropping off games again out of boredom. Who cares if I do, but there must be a bunch of formerly lapsed gamers like me feeling the same way.

@JamesR Disagree, I'm sure investors and analysts look at exclusives and think "hey, this is something you can't buy anywhere else - should push system sales more than ports that are better competitively priced elsewhere."

Time to buy some stocks

I love armchair business analysis. I think I love the naivety of it all most. Eternal Darkness, Mother 3 and a bit more info on Metroid Prime will not send share prices through the roof. As the man above me just said, buy now it's dropped, when it shoots up again, sell.

@HobbitGamer The consumer is king. Doesn't matter if it's entitled or not. If you want interest to continue in your product, and you are the primary source of new software for your product, you need to get your flipping shlip together, no matter if you think the fans sound like babies or not. Wii sold amaziiiing - but the lackluster release schedule of good software disenfranchised fans enough that they skipped the WiiU, once Nintendo decided to trelease a new console. Sameish thing with Sony rn. They are king of kings, but all this crossplay nonsense (online communities being an increasssingly important component in sales for popular games) could eff them over when they launch their new console, depending on where we are all at games wise, when that time comes.

@Dang69

“take that dev money and invest in hiring more studios or something to keep new games coming out faster.”

You’ll be pleased to know that Monolith Soft is doing this then.

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/06/25/monolith-softs-annual-profit-decreased-60-compared-to-previous-fiscal-year/

They’re investing their profits from XC2 to hiring new staff.

“Disagree, I'm sure investors and analysts look at exclusives and think "hey, this is something you can't buy anywhere else - should push system sales more than ports that are better competitively priced elsewhere."”

I disagree with this though. While exclusives are important, having multiplats is as well. Nintendo makes money off of 3rd Party sales, and having multiplats can help to draw people to the system. I’m sure more sportsgamers would be more interested in the Switch if Madden were coming.

Switch had 8 out of 10 of the top selling game spots on the last chart I saw last week for Japan sales and the Switch has been selling 30-40 thousand units a week in Japan alone.

The Nintendo haters jump at every chance they can find to bash on Nintendo and call anyone who disagrees an "apologist". Such absolute nonsense.

I totally agree Nintendo could be doing more, but they are still doing very very well.

@zool

Well, I'm not exactly like you as I do have other systems. However, my Switch is damn the one that I sure play the most. So considering that I don't see the drought, you are nentioning. So you may be better served speaking for yourself. From games like Has Been Heroes, Arms, Doom which I also have on the Xbo) or Jydge to Mario, Zelda, Battle Chasers or Mario vs Rabbids (that I just purchased not too long ago on the e-shop on sale) there's plenty to play spanning all different kinds of genres.

Hell, I still haven't gotten Splatoon 2 yet. And I want to buy Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus as well. So yeah, again I have to say that I'm not that thirsty. I think this stuff gets exaggerated way too much. And I don't mean any harm, but I can see why people that aren't into this industry and find it childish look at gamers like they truly have no lives. It's like if a game isn't releasing every 48 Hours game there was moaning.

@FlimFlam GREAT NEWS on MS doing that. Love love them. Their teams got massacred during the final couple years of BotW, being pulled into help. I'd imagine that's why XBC2 was kind of buggy upon release.

Multiplats are totally important too, no disagreement there. I just wish Dark Souls would have got released same day so we could see a hype title compete between the 3 consoles. And even though DS:R would play better on my PS4, I WANT it on Switch and am holding my preorder. But here's the catch on multiplats being a huge driver for new console purchases vs exclusives: Yes, I can play anywhere/lay around any spot and play games on my Switch...but, at some point for people, I think some of that novelty will wear off as we move farther and farther away from ports of games released in 2016 and 2017 as graphics continue to get more demanding. Look at Crash. I traded it in already, thought it was kind of dark and soft...which is fine until it becam a real chore real chore in some areas to determine where I was in relation to platforms (how distinct my shadow was, etc). Ripper Roo was my breaking point. Easy boss made super frustrating as the platforms furthest from the foreground were hard to decipher in relation to the plane Crash was on. And that's not really all that intensive of a game graphically. After some time, I just wonder if some of the novelty of playing a game in bed or on a cigarette break isn't worth the downgrade seen in a Wolfenstein 2 as far as a multiplat appeal concerns itself to driving console sales. It's the 1st party exclusives that sell any Nintendo console post snes - you basically had a few million people buy a Switch solely for BotW. 3rd party exclusives could help that too. I just think exclusives that look great on the go will be the real meat moving forward, at some point soon.

One last thing, the investor concern doesn't even sound like it's tied too how much revenue the software is bringing in and has more to do with "will Switch hit the 20 million units moved as promised, this fiscal year."

@Heavyarms55 I don't think anyone but trolls who don't own or don't intend to own Switches are dooming and glooming here. It's just more like...this year is really disappointing so far, and the games we realllly want (for ppl having bought the system last year) are coming at the end of the year. Tennis is ok, Mario Party might be ok, Kirby was broke imo, Tennis wasn't "for us"...had some nice ports...but basically (for earlier adopters) we're kind of looking a compelling software gap here, from Dec last year to November this year, with the exception of the great Mario + Rabbis and Splatoon DLC. All my hope in Octopath and Starlink tho.

@gameboy1975 I think the moaning about game releases this year has more to do with "1) when you bought the Switch and 2) did you own a WiiU."

@Dang69

Fair enough. I think some people will continue to prefer to buy multi platforms games on the Switch because of the flexibility (depends on each person’s individual life, of course). Some games aren’t that demanding anyway, meaning the Switch’s portability is just a bonus with little downside.

Regarding 1st party titles, it will speed up. Personally, I’m pleased with their games this year (though that may be in part because I’m a big Mario Tennis fan), but it should accelerate going forward as traditionally 3DS studios move to Switch. That will really start with the Let’s Go duo and continue with Fire Emblem and the gen 8 Pokémon games next year.

EDIT: To add on to that, the 3DS got a 3D Mario, a 2D Mario and 2 new Zeldas. It’s not unrealistic to think that there could be more Mario and Zelda than just Odyssey and BOTW on the Switch eventually.

@SuperWeird on the other hand, I bought a PS4 in anticipation of FF7 Remake...and well, I am paying the price for that. Sometimes Sony (and Square) hype things too much. I wish these companies would find a middle (hype) ground. XD

@Al_Godoy They already have.,

@Dang69 I am sorry but I have had the Switch since day 1 and since Mario Kart Launched there hasn't been a single notable gap for me. The only gap on Switch for me was between launch with BotW and the release of Mario Kart 8 DX a few months later. Since then it has been one game after another. But I enjoy a pretty wide variety of games. People just aren't looking or are only interested in very specific titles.

Certainly I'm not the most pleased with the Switch's amount of new first party games, but I do want to remind people that our personal complaints with the system such as slow turnout of new first party games, lack of VC, etc., etc. is not necessarily what is driving the investors to drop the stock. They're not thinking like us.

It reminds me of the 3DS. That system was revealed at E3 2010 with a MASSIVE amount of upcoming titles, including a bunch of megaton first party titles. Yet the system was met with disappointing sales in the beginning and lots of analysts calling for its failure.

An E3 2010 3DS lineup level reveal is all I've ever wanted to see from the Switch, but it wasn't enough to make people happy, and it wasn't enough to make the analysts care about it either. Although I don't know where the stocks were at that point. They were probably low, if not just because investors and analysts thought that the 3DS was absolutely doomed because of the rise of mobile smartphones.

As I said, the views and interests of these investors most likely do not align with us.

@Heavyarms55 Mario Kart8 DX released end of April and Zelda came out early March of 2017. We've had longer gaps than that. XBC2 came out Dec 1st 2017 and the bayonetta collection came out in the middle of February. Kirby came out middle of March and I guess that counts as a "game". April had nothing since LABO wasn't for the current Switch audience and was a general market outreach toyline (they didn't even promote it in any Directs and outright stated that for older gamers, it may appeal to the child at heart). First week of May we got a Wiiu DK port and things got rolling after that. I could speak against the quality of (my opinion) Sushi Striker's (also in May) feeling cheap and clunky, or how bare bones and repetitive the nearly end of the month June release of Mario Tennis Aces was (mechanics in it are great tho).

So: there was 2 and a half gap between XBC2 and Bayonetta, then only 1 month wait for Kirby, then a month and a half wait for DK, then nearly a 2 month wait for Mario Tennis Aces and Splatoon 2 and Rabbis dlc. I dunno, just seems pretty frickin bland to me. During that time we Southpark and Dragon Quest Builders and couple good indie games too. Yeah there's some games, but they hardly due a lot to keep any momentum for the system. Lame

@Knuckles-Fajita apologist

It really isn’t that difficult of an observation. With no big AAA releases this year besides Smash at the end of it what will drive sales? Switch had Zelda at launch, Splatoon 2 in Summer, and Mario Odessey around Christmas. 2018 is just Smash.

People need to stop trying to white knight Nintendo. Wii U failed for a reason.

@Knuckles-Fajita Pokemon is the only big system mover on that list.

@FlimFlam they're making it sound like they're having second thoughts on all that consolidation talk of the dev teams...so I dunno - speaking on 3ds successors and continued 3ds support, etc.

But yanno, if Dark Souls hadn't gotten delayed in May, if FE was coming out this year, and Smash wasn't at the very end of this year and we would've got a Yoshi in there somewhere (who counts their financial year as THE year, but Nintendo) I wouldn't be complaining at all and I don't think the investors would be as worried either. I only start complaining about game delays and stuff when let us assume that slow beginning to a year has payoffs spread out thru it's second half...MAYBE investors feel that way too as far as continued market momentum goes.

@GrailUK we’re all Nintendo fans. That means we are stakeholders. We want to see Nintendo to succeed, so they can keep making games. When they make regressive business decisions and investors react accordingly it is troublesome

@LUIGITORNADO I agree with you, white knighting Nintendo just enables them to pull some bs like they always do when they achieve a bit of success. Thankfully the falling stock might remind them to be a little hungry again. White knighting = all those "aack my wallet hurts" comments. It's like someone telling their 1 year old "yeah that drawing DOES LOOK exactly like our family." In that instance it's ok, lol.

I know that Nintendo had a rather lackluster E3 but it isnt exactly recent news so Im not sure why it would just worry investors now, especially with 2 huge releases set for the holidays (Pokemon and Smash). It feels like journalists are trying to be sensational about it.

My guess would be that the shortage of available components are worrying investors more, because if Nintendo cant build enough systems then they wont meet their targets for the year. Thats money.

But what do I know, maybe the journalists are right and its because there hasnt been a new Mario or Zelda announced every week.

This seems short sighted.... They didn't even scratch the Pokemon thing yet on Switch. and then Smash and then Mario kart on mobile. I think it's a good time to jump into the stock and sell after the Christmas sales.

@dumedum not necessarily shortsighted - they're concerned with how losing momentum effects sales of Switch for potential new buyers that are curious and how that buzz turns curiosity into purchases in this financial year. Remember the falling stock has to do with them specifically doubting the 20 million unit projection Nintendo gave them earlier this year.

@Dang69

I don’t really think there will be a true 3DS successor. I mean, what would they even develop for it? Gen 8 will be on Switch, and presumably Gen 9 will as well. Pokémon has been the most important franchise for Nintendo handhelds, so it now being on Switch makes it seem unlikely that there would be a new dedicated handheld system.

FE and Yoshi getting delayed are disappointing, but, eh, it happens sometimes. At least the small cottage we’ve seen from both looks good.

I think it’s strange we haven’t heard anything about Dark Souls. Hopefully they announce a release date soon, preferably in a Nintendo Direct where Panic Button announces its big port and they announce those 2018 games they said they haven’t announced yet. Honestly, though, I’m a little thankful a series like Dark Souls is even coming to Switch. It wasn’t that long ago that the DS 2 devs literally laughed at the idea of the game being on a Nintendo system:

https://nintendoeverything.com/dark-souls-ii-producer-laughs-when-asked-about-wii-u-version-says-system-is-a-lot-different-from-the-audience-for-dark-souls/

Also, like I said in an earlier post, I think investors fears of sluggish Switch sales is misguided as GameStop has reported that Switch sales have doubled in the wake of E3.

@Dang69
It didnt get pulled, it just moved from the 'coming soon' to the 'featured' section.

@CaPPa yeah I just figured that out myself...I committed the great sin of reading some crap online and repeating before I checked myself.

@Knuckles-Fajita Those western investors took note of the terrible E3 presentation that almost solely focused on just one title: Smash Bros.

I was really disappointed myself and had expected a few more surprise announcements.

When it comes to first party titles, this year is a very disappointing one.

Smash bros has a really unique but niche audience. So is the Party game.

So far we only left with the two Pokémon spin-offs and that' it really from Nintendo this year.

Investors simply have the WiiU still fresh in their minds and worried Nintendo is again loosing momentum, like they did with the WiiU, which had a burst of new titles (especially large 3rd party ones) in the first year and then the momentum took a straight nose dive with almost a 2 year draught with few interesting and major titles.

@Jeronan
Smash isn’t a niche series. Brawl is the highest selling fighting game ever by a wide margin, and the 3DS iteration is the second best fighting game.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_selling_fighting_games

Mario Party also isn’t a niche series. Mario Party 8 and 9 combined for nearly 12 million sales on Wii. Even Mario Party 10 got 2 million sales on the Wii U, and that game was considered bad by Mario Party fans.

@Dang69

I totally understand you...

@Heavyarms55

Just let you know that JAPAN IS NOT THE WORLD and The Switch is sold as an HANDHELD there.

Maybe it's the begining of an answer...

@FlimFlam I have no clue either - hoping the new prez meant replacement being "another financial pillar" rather than "another portable". This week he mentioned at looking at possibilities for a successor (and it seems like they're aiming at quarterly first party releases still). I'd have assumed he'd make mobile the successor, but he specifically talked about that as its own pillar. I dunno seems weird. Maybe it's nothing, but in his first week, I doubt anything he says is less than intended.

FE looks really good but the colors look realllly drab - love love love how it transitions from the simple map to the in the field view. Super cool. I personally think Yoshi had a little Mario Kart style LABO tie-in but now they're reworking it to make it a more compelling push for the LABO line and that's why it got delayed.

Thanks for the link - that's from the era of me not playing anything lol.

That Gamestop report, "see how good and nice we are Nintendo? Can we have more exclusive amiibo and stuff now?" I don't really see how important that statement was without context tho. Sure sales doubled from a normal week if you're talking about preorders...but didnt they sort of write it up to sound like they implied "Switch console sales?"

@FlimFlam The Wii had close to 100 million consoles out there at that time and Mario Party on the WiiU did so well, is because there wasn't anything else to buy lol.

Fighting brawlers are a niche these days. We are not in the 80's and 90's anymore.
Splatoon2 is doing a lot better now.

No matter how you try to spin it, this year is a very disappointing year when it comes to first party titles from Nintendo and the 2nd half of the year doesn't exactly look too good either when it comes to major 3rd party releases.

I am glad we get the expansion for Xenoblade Cronicles 2 in late August. Hopefully that story will be long enough it keep me busy for a while.

@FlimFlam

humm, are you sure of that ? Don't want to disturb you but maybe go check Street Fighter II sells

@Cobalt
Tekken is the highest selling franchise, but Smash Bros Brawl is the biggest selling single game at over 13 million, with Smash for 3DS second at over 9 million.

@Jeronan
Smash Bros or fighting games in general are not niche products. Smash sold over 5 million on the Wii U alone and plenty of fighters on the Sony/Xbox platforms have sold a few million too (like Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Dragonball etc).

@CaPPa Not in the West.

@CaPPa

1991 Street Fighter II 20,780,000 all platforms

And all the compilations and Virtual Consoles, XBLive etc... are not included...

@Jeronan
Of the 5 million sales, Smash for Wii U made over 4 million sales in the West and under 1 million in Japan.

@Cobalt
But thats more than one game as its multiple versions. Ive owned about 7 versions myself.

@CaPPa

Yeah we are talking CAPCOM right now, sooooo it's about people able to launch
Hyper Street Fighter X '' ++ Turbo EX Super tag Fighting arcade XX world Champs mega Edition !

@Jeronan
"No matter how you try to spin it, this year is a very disappointing year when it comes to first party titles from Nintendo and the 2nd half of the year doesn't exactly look too good either when it comes to major 3rd party releases."

Not really.
This year i got a lot of good 3rd party games , some interesting 1st party games and ports from other machines.
Wanna know my choices ? (January - December 2018)

Purchased:
1. Lost Sphear
2. 1-2-Switch
3. Portal Knights
4. Overcooked Special Edition
5. Poi Explorer Edition
6. Street Fighter 30th Anniversary
7. Sushi Striker
8. Mario Tennis Aces

Upcoming purchase:
9. Yonder the Cloud Catcher Chronicles
10. Nintendo LABO Toy Con 01
11. Penguin Wars
12. Little Dragons Cafe
13. Go Vacation
14. Overcooked 2
15. Super Mario Party
16. Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu

Will buy these games after some updated information / after my long deliberation :
17. Hyper Sports R
18. My Time at Portia
19. Re:Legend
20. Earthlock (Physical release)
21. Catastronaut
22. Neko Tomo
23. Captain Toad Treasure Trackers
24. Crash Bandicoot N'Sane Trilogy
25. Fit Boxing

GOSH....!
This year will drain my wallet so quickly by a lot of good Switch games.
Peoples keep moaning for lack of AAA 1st / 3rd party games, just take a look my pick.
Those games are Enough for me on this year.
Actually i felt quite disappointed with no announcement of Animal Crossing Switch so far, but those Switch games above are pretty enough to entertain me.

How do you have the planets biggests eling console right now and continual falling stock??

@Dang69 What an impressive load! Just because YOU don't like a game or YOU aren't the intended audience doesn't mean a darn thing. Not to mention you just ignore indie titles and 3rd party titles released during those periods. People need to get their head around the idea that the entire industry doesn't revolved around their particular areas of interest.

@Cobalt I actually live in Japan and the Switch is sold like any other console on the market. Major retail stores have it hooked right up to big TVs alongside PS4. You are right that Japan isn't the world, but this article specifically mentions the Japanese Nikkei - The Tokyo Stock Exchange, so naturally Japan is the focus.

@Anti-Matter Most of those are indie games or old ports relaunched for the umpteenth time. /sigh

I am intrigued by Little Dragon's Café and Let's Go Pikachu, but that's pretty much it for this year.

Nintendo had reached a really good momentum by the end of 2017, but now in 2018 they practically ruining it for themselves.

The fact they had to fill almost the entire E3 presentation with one single game (Smash Bros), where they had to drag it out by presenting every single character at length.... says enough really and that is what worries investors!

Like I said in the other article. What I am most baffled about, is why in earth they don't release a port of Super Mario Maker?

It's instant success! Easy money! Easy to port, seeing how quickly they managed to port the other games.

Add in some capacitive pen accessories and they have another money maker on their hands.

Would be instant buy for me! As it was a fantastic game, that due to the community nature, would keep people busy for many months!

It would have been the perfect "filler" game for this year. Or a perfect release alongside the launch of the Nintendo Online service!

What about a successor to Super Mario 3D world? Pikmin? Animal Crossing? Mario&Luigi? etc, etc..... totally silent on those.

@Anti-Matter no offense but what looks at all interesting about Hyper Sports R?

Also can someone tell me why variations of this weird phrasing "This year will drain my wallet so quickly by a lot of good Switch games," keeps getting used? Go on any Nintendo youtube upload, or Nintendo Everything and you keep seeing it. Here's another one "Aak so much games. They are eating my wallet." And another one "Phew how can you guys do this to my wallet!"

@Jeronan
I knew if Nintendo still keep silent with Animal Crossing./ Pikmin 4 / Super Mario Maker, etc, but i got a lot of good Switch games, regardless ports or Old games or small 3rd party games. That's too many for me. I still have to manage my financial for purchase something important than games (food, clothing, medicine, etc).

While waiting for upcoming announcement, i can finish my backlogs and tried smaller games before Bigger games.

@Dang69
"what looks at all interesting about Hyper Sports R?"

Hyper Sports R was remind me of Track & Field NES, my Childhood games.
That's so Casual game that i quickly interested. Plus, i saw Shirtless muscular dudes playing Beach Volleyball (Instant Buy for me).
Maybe you don't like that game, but i do Like it.

"Also can someone tell me why variations of this weird phrasing "This year will drain my wallet so quickly by a lot of good Switch games," keeps getting used? Go on any Nintendo youtube upload, or Nintendo Everything and you keep seeing it. Here's another one "Aak so much games. They are eating my wallet." And another one "Phew how can you guys do this to my wallet!"

What ?!
If i said like that that means i got A Lot of Good games. I was so Happy to know that. My Switch library games will grow bigger. I can give my Switch a Kiss from me (Mmmuaah...!)

@Heavyarms55 Ok - I agree variety makes any console strong, but what I'm saying is like this...imagine you have a pancake company you start up after your last restaurant got horrible reviews. So, over the course of a year, you sell the best dang pancakes ever. It goes great, you've built a strong pancake audience. You want to also grow your customer base, so you start selling burgers. Problem is, you don't have enough resources to do burgers and pancakes at the same time, so during the weeks that you serve burgers, you can't also sell pancakes. New customers come in to look at the menu, based off the buzz created around your pancakes. They see burgers, they leave. On top of that, your regulars don't know what kind of food they're gonna get during the week, because you don't announce the release schedule more than a few days ahead of time. They lose interest. LABO was like that - meaning if you don't have the resources to maintain the product your audience (newly built and has come to expect) new initiatives like LABO (see the burger analogy) or games like Kirby (marketed as a pancake but tastes like a LABO burger) that leave huge gaps in your ability to create product for the audience built and the one your building off that buzz is a bad move objectively. LABO was marketed as not being for the current Switch audience, was not included in directs and was specifically said to be for kids and those young at heart. I mean it's not even video games - I think they banked a lot resources and factory on that and that's partially why the first half of this year has been so dry.

@Dang69
I Do Like LABO idea REGARDLESS of Yada Yada Yada you said above.
I wanna play it, try the Garage Mode.
You don't like LABO, go ahead.
But i like it, don't preach me with your Yada Yada Yada to Discourage whoever have interest with LABO.

@Anti-Matter When the hell was I talking to you about LABO? Unless you have more than one user name on here - also not saying it's wrong to like LABO, I'm saying it was so much not for the audience currently owning Switches, that they wouldn't even talk about it in Nintendo Directs - and that if Nintendo is having a hard time releasing much for that 2017 audience, that it seems like a mistake to put company resources toward LABO when you're delaying first party games like FE and Yoshi, out of this calendar year.

@Anti-Matter Did Konami release more about that game besides the cover image? Also I'm not saying it's weird to like having a lot of games coming - I'm saying that the wallet phrase is weirdly specifically everywhere - odd cadence to it.

@Zuljaras
I showed what games that fit for me during this year.
I got A Lot of choices, while other peoples keep complaining for lack of certain games.

@Dang69
"it's weird to like having a lot of games coming "

Why ?
More choices , Better.
I can arrange my purchase schedule what games should i buy during certain months.

@Dang69

Man, your demonstration is just AWESOME !
You found the perfect way to explain exactly what I think too...

Pancakes and Burgers ! Just brilliant !

10/10 buddy !

@Anti-Matter that was a typo i edited (not fast enough) - i meant to say "it's not weird"

a bunch of opportunistic investors turning their backs on Nintendo

@Cobalt lol thanks for taking the time to read all of that! I like variety, I think it's important to put out Nintendo product not just for "the audience of me," but like...this year feels weird. This could not have originally been their business plan for this year. And the fact that we have both the Japanese President and the North American President coming out and saying "hey hey don't worry we got more for this year than we said" that I don't feel like I'm just the "loud minority opinion on the internet." Everyone made excuses for them, during the Mini Direct, and the March Direct...but when E3 came, they pushed it too far, and now we're 7 months in and investors are going, "how are you gonna move 20 million Switches this year? Are you doing this sort of thing again next year?" I personally think Fortnite will sell a bunch of Switches and they should slap that Fornite name right on the friggin Switch box, preinstalled with some Vbucks.

@macaron75 "a bunch of opportunistic investors turning their backs on Nintendo" - I mean yeah, that's sort of how they make their money - being opportunistic, but also being smart enough or brave enough to not run at the first sign of trouble, too. But if Nintendo wants them to be more than "fairweather friends" they need to drop the ego, and instill confidence in them. I don't imagine many businesses like that not giving them a better look at their long term plans. I dunno.

@Dang69

Yeah this year feels really weird !

You know, a lot of people mix two stuffs.
There is nothing bad to say what we think about the way Nintendo handle the business this year...
I even think that it's really important to be honest about the way we feel. I'm totally OK with people who claim there are plenty of great games every months, they have the right to think like that BUT I have the right to say that is definitly not the case for me...

Happy to get Octopath Traveler soon otherwise nothing to play for me since Xenoblade 2 ( Dec. 2017 o_O ) :/

@Cobalt Ys8 is fun, have you looked into it? Less "open" than Xenoblade (at least for the initial part of the game), and definitely not working with the same sort of budget - graphics aren't as polished etc...but I really like it. Lot of charm in it - the characters have enough personality without having to listen them talk TOO LONG. Story doesn't get in the way of picking up and playing for short bursts and I personally love stories where people get shipwrecked and have to build camps and forts and stuff. It feels a lot like the first season of the "Lost" tv show. Actually the game being a little more like "hey you have to go to this area for right now cuz man those people need your help", is kind of relaxing after so many games lately being so "open". Also super excited for Octopath Traveller. I hope a lot of the pencil illustration art is worked into the game somehow, soooo pretty. Waiting to play the demo until the week before the game releases. Also a sucker for puzzle stuff like Captain Toad, so this month is much better for me.

I think it's important to be vocal about things we worry about, with how a company handles their product, especially when they've straight up made big mistakes in the not so far past. Nintendo in particular seems to be the most interesting when they respond to that dialog.

@Cobalt
"Yeah this year feels really weird"

Maybe....
According to Chinese Zodiac, Nintendo company is Ox zodiac (1889) in year of Earth Dog (2018) and their fortune was So-So, Not incredible as year 2017. But on second half of year 2018, something good will come.

@Dang69

I got Y's VIII day one edition brand new on PS4 for 19.99€.
I don't like to play portable for RPGs, I need to be focused on a big screen. Another thing, the texts are really small and it's a pain to read those on the Switch screen...

If you add the technical issues on the Switch version compare to the PS4 one, hummm my choice was instantly made.

1080p, 60fps, big screen, 19.99€

Edit : Ow and this version comes with a 32 pages artbook and a CD with some tracks(excellent tracks BTW)

@Cobalt - I didn't think the Ps4 version was going to be all that much better - tho it has been nice to play it outside under the sun and shade - kind of enhances the game with the smell of summer grass and stuff lol.

@Cobalt I got a cute little map and some trading cards in mine lol. They had a more expensive one that had the art book and stuff for like a $100 dollars or something.

@Dang69

you're so a poet

@Cobalt Well I'm just super happy for once to not be arguing with someone on here and just be chatting like two nice human beings.

@Dang69

There are too much extremists, that's why !
If you dare to critize the almighty BigN when they're not at their best, yaaayyyy you're a pariah...

Worst e3 in years. Recycled smash. Been there done that Pokemon. Now big TEASES for 2019. No Metroid update. Sure I can see why the stock is dropping into the toilet.

@Dang69 I am sorry but I don't agree in the slightest. You are still acting like Kirby and Labo are all the Switch has had this year and that is simply nonsense. Not every release can be Mario Odyssey or Breath of the Wild.

@YANDMAN You have that when everyone and their mother is always looking for any excuse to bash on Nintendo. It's endless and nonstop. Neither Sony nor Microsoft get a shred of the hate Nintendo does, even when they churn out the exact same products every year.

Don't worry guys it will probably go up again ofter the next direct

@Dang69

Do not take personally but I won't...

Everything related with online stuffs from close to far I refuse to use it... Again, that's not against you at all you can trust me on that !

@LUIGITORNADO Apologist for...?

But sales of the Switch are NOT sluggish, and rather few investors care about announcements of games too far off for them to know when the money will arrive.

I'm thinking something else is playing a key factor here.

That being the announcement of Mobile only really being 4-5% of Nintendo's revenue, when some investors thought mobile was a big and easy market to conquer.

@zool I totally agree with you. Nintendo is the company that rewards their loyal fans the least and they have proved it with Switch.

No backwards compatibility, no cross-buy, no cross save and all these Wii U ports that are full priced. On PS4 at least the remasters look almost new and are not that expensive and on Xbox One you can play your Xbox and Xbox 360 games (as soon as they become backwards compatible), some of them remastered, for free.

Nintendo kicks their loyal fans dropping support for the console and then releasing a whole new thing that tries to sell the same games and new pro controllers again. I know a lot of Nintendo fans that are tired of Nintendo because of this. After the Wii disappointment (after the fad) Wii U was basically ignored and Switch won't sell 100 million units like Nintendo stated if they keep like this.

Might be due to some "must have" nintendo titles not being released this year or at least mentioned. cough in animal crossingish

@BlueOcean

Sadly, YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT !

@Dang69 Absolutely right, Nintendo isn't anything without their customers. (Most) people don't trust Nintendo since Wii, that's why Wii U was ignored and after a solid first year for Switch with dual release Breath of the Wild (so not a port and both versions have the same content) and exclusive Super Mario Odyssey people are already seeing through. I hope that the Animal Crossing that they will release is not Amiibo Festival port but after Pokemon Let's Go and all the Wii U ports anything is possible.

@Cobalt Thanks.

@Dang69 I interpreted it as GameStop saying that hardware and software sales rose. Either way, that’s a good thing for Nintendo and, at least to me, suggests that investors may be worrying over nothing.

@Jeronan The fighting genre may have become niche, but Smash Bros. has avoided that as it can still appeal to casual players who don’t want to learn complicated combos. It also has a very recognizable cast. Smash Bros. is popular in the West as well. I remember my school held Smash Bros. tournaments, and around half the school showed up to play/watch.

Also, Mario Party 10 selling 2 million copies is very impressive. DKC: TF and Bayonetta 2 were both considered masterpieces and did not reach 2 million. And, again, this is in spite of the fact that Mario Party 10 is considered bad by the series’s fan base. It’s not a mega franchise, but it’s still sells reliably.

@Cobalt Street Fighter 2 has only sold more than Brawl if you include every release and version. Brawl only released once on one system, so it being the highest selling fighting game release is impressive.

@FlimFlam You can't take game sales on WiiU as success measure, since especially in it's last couple years it was practically devoid of 3rd party releases, so anything Nintendo threw out no matter how good or bad, popular or unpopular, people would buy it, since they finally had a new game to buy! lol!

Even I bought Super Smash Bros and Mario Party on WiiU, but didn't end up liking either game at all and traded it back in within a month for a PS4 game.

@FlimFlam

Yeah but you forgot an important thing : 102 000 000 sells for the Wii ! So 13 000 000 brawl represent 12.5% attachment rate.

Now the SNES is about 49 000 000 units for 10.4 SFII+SFII Turbo, its about 21% attachment rate.

So, it's a little tricky buddy

@Jeronan Mario Party has sold well on systems besides the Wii U though. As I mentioned earlier, the series sold nearly 12 million copies on the Wii and, if we just consider the numbered home console entries, every single entry has sold well over a million copies with Mario Party 6 on the GameCube, which had 1.65 million sales. Again, not amazing numbers, but pretty consistently good.

@Cobalt Yeah, Street Fighter 2 games sold really well on the SNES. That doesn't take away from the fact though that Brawl did very well and is the highest selling fighting game. Also, Smash has had some great attach rates too. Melee sold 7.09 copies on the GCN for an attach rate of nearly 33%. It was also the highest selling GCN game.

This sharedrop doesn't make any sense, yes, Nintendo didn't announce that much, but do they really need it?

Lets face it, both Pokemon and Smash will sell out all available stock and will be as fast selling as Odyssey, Splatoon and BotW.

Why announce more new then, if you are going to sell out everything anyway? Rather keep your big hitters for later so you also sell out everything you have then.

Let's see how the Nintendo stock will spike upwards again as soon as some Pokemon-Numbers come in.

This is most likely done to let the stock force-drop so they can get more cash by rebuying later.

@NicknameMy

You'll compare the sells of those two fake pokémon games with the sells of REAL POKÉMON games... I'm sure you'll understand by yourself that it won't be enough...

@Cobalt

I think the Let's Go series will straight up outsell every other Pokemon series because it simply is open to a wider crowd and brings back nostalgic players of older time, which stopped with Pokemon because they either hated random encounters, permanent grinding or the mass of new Pokemon. It is way easier for them to get into Let's Go than the usual Pokemon series.

And then we have the Pokemon Go community, which got smaller since the start, but it still a rather large community. And they definitely see more reason in buying Let's Go than the usual Pokemon series.

Finally, it is Pokemon on a console in 720p, the dream of everyone in the past playing Pokemon Stadium, Colosseum and XD.

Multiple reasons why Let's Go will blow every known Pokemon game out of proportion.

Oh, funny thing btw:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhR5BUqU0AAXfaS.jpg

@NicknameMy

We'll see !

I bet that after the launch of the 2 first weeks (meaning the moment when all the pokéjunkies who buy everything related to pokémon stops), you'll see that those 2 versions will start to dicrease more and more and it'll show you that they're not longtime sellers at all.
Not like a Zelda BOTW or MarioKart 8...

All the people selling are going to cry like a little girl once they do their Nintendo Direct in a few weeks and announce Mario Maker 2 and a bunch of others.

@Dang69 still short sighted . Everyone knows how big Pokemon is. Last time the stock was literally saved because of Pokemon Go. Company still running on that surge. So yes, short sighted.

@JasmineDragon you will have to tell me what 'that' word is.... I lost 🤔

@Cobalt

Yeah, lets see, you just gave speculations, while I gave clear arguments and reasonable conclusions. And I even base the information of my arguments on multiple sources from the internet (I watched like 200 Let's Go reactions on Youtube, really).

@zool "I played Skyrim, a six year old ported game that looked six years old. I bought it because there was so little AAA Switch games"

Amazing. (Not that I'm surprised...)

@ekwcll yes but meh.

I'm very excited about Fire Emblem Three Houses, but I felt they didn't show enough. I think they should try to show something from the next Pokemon game. We should have a better teaser from Metroid Prime 4 than just the title card from 2 years ago. And maybe show a couple of title cards for games further away on the horizon. A new F-Zero or whatever.

I appreciate Nintendo having it's own strategy as opposed to Sony or some developers that show games many years in advance, but they should also consider that many gamers are used to that, and get pumped for games that way.

In any case, I'm a happy Switch owner, and I'm currently going through Doom, with ocasional rounds of Fortnite. But I don't see myself buying any new Switch exclusive until Fire Emblem comes out.... I'm still on the fence about Smash, since I own and still play the Wii U game. So probably investors think that many gamers have a viewpoint similar to mine. Specially on a year that Sony is pumping out game of the year material like Spiderman, The Last of Us 2 and God of War.

@NicknameMy
Your posts were just as full of speculation as @Cobalt. Nothing you said was a fact, just assumptions. Nothing wrong with that. Don't get on his case about speculating when that's exactly what you're doing though.

@zool "Loyal"

@dumedum SUPPOSEDLY and what do I know, but supposedly they took the mixed reaction to Pokemon Let's Go heard online, in the week or two coming up to e3, and took it as a "not one undo percent for sure big time console mover." The e3 prez on GO! hardly added anything to the conversation about the game other then Reggie being super cringe with the ball "sounds like there's one inside".

@Cobalt Totally can respect that - but monthly Splatfests are sooo much fun. I don't really have friends that are gamers - and the 2 of 3 I know who do game, don't have Switches (but I'm working on convincing them). Online play has helped me offset a complete lack of local play...when I was younger I loved playing in isolation and falling deep into stories, but as I get old, this competitive hunger keeps growing in me.

@Heavyarms55 I'm not intending to be saying that's all they released...but up until Mario Tennis aside from the Ninety published Sushi Strikers), it was all they released that was brand new...and everything else that was bigger 3rd party was old as well. If you had a WiiU, they kind of left you out in the cold. I'm super super happy that DK seems to be getting some "low risk" exposure again with Tropical Freeze and being in Mario Rabbids. I'm so incredibly grateful Bayonetta is getting a 3rd chance at life with help of the rerelease. All I'm saying is, for a lot of reasons, this year has felt VERY WEAK and borderline stingy/Scrooge McDonald level of unnecessary penny pinching on Nintendo's part. I keep grouping Kirby and Labo together because of the proximity of their releases, and similar problems I personally felt the two shared, when instead a rather slow if not empty chunk of the year. Listen, they need to step it up, but yeah I'm pumped for Captain Toad. Just speaking to the bigger picture and using myself as a frame of reference to some of the audience built last year.

@JasmineDragon 'Loyal' as in stuck with Nintendo, even when the Wii U was not selling well and not many games were released.

@Syrek24 Ahhh you know what this crowd are like, they're only happy when they're crying.

"Waaaaaahhhhhh I've got nothing to play!!!"

@zool You really want to do this, don't you? Okay, let's do it.

So yeah, I'm nearly fifty years old, I've been a gamer since the days of Atari 2600, VIC-20 and Space Invaders, and I've been a Nintendo fan since the Gameboy was a hot new thing. I've literally never stopped buying Nintendo products in the last 25 or so years. In that time I've bought one Gameboy, one Gameboy Pocket, one Gameboy Color, one N64, one Gamecube, one GBA SP, one DS Phat, two DS Lites, one Wii, two 3DSes, one New 3DS XL, one Switch and probably close to a thousand games on those systems for me and my kids. I've stood up for Nintendo that whole time, even when everyone else I knew was buying Sega, Sony and Microsoft platforms, and I've spent more money than I probably should have on Nintendo products during even the leanest times. I gamed when only nerds played video games and being nerdy wasn't the cool thing it is now, I kept gaming when all my friends were "growing up" and abandoning gaming, I've raised two girls on gaming, and I still game now when most of the people in this forum are not even half my age. And all that time, it's been either Nintendo or PC for my gaming.

The Wii U came out at a time when my family was under severe financial hardship, I had extremely limited time available for gaming, and my kids were not yet at an age where they needed to have the latest console, not to mention the fact that I wanted to encourage them to do other things aside from video games. For gaming, we were still quite happy with our older consoles and our DS/3DSes, we could ill afford a new toy that we didn't really need, and there was no reason for us to "upgrade", especially since the Wii U was not a compelling upgrade from the Wii, at launch or at any time during its first couple of years. Nintendo barely supported the console themselves, with nearly nonexistent marketing and software droughts that make the Switch's 2018 lineup look like the Mississippi River during flood season.

I was clearly not the only person who felt this way, as by the time the Wii U had a really strong lineup of A games, the console had already obviously failed and Nintendo were talking about "NX". NX caught my fancy from the very first day it was mentioned, and I followed every snippet of NX news throughout 2016. I decided long before it launched that this was going to be our next family console, and stood in line at Toys'r'Us on a cold morning in early March to get the thing. I was the third person in that line, and the oldest person there that day by at least ten years. And I've never been sorry about buying that Switch. It has been a wonderful time for a lifelong Nintendo fan, with fantastic games coming out every month in every genre that I enjoy - including some of the better games from their poorly supported and ill-fated console the Wii U. So yes, I've been "rewarded", if you can call it a reward when I've given Nintendo several thousand hard-earned dollars over the last quarter of a century.

You, on the other hand, stopped being loyal to Nintendo the second they started porting Wii U games to Switch, and here you are complaining about their "disloyalty" and talking about droughts. Whereas I have paid full price for ported Nintendo games again and again and again during my time with Nintendo. When Link's Awakening came to Gameboy Color as Link's Awakening DX, I bought it at full price and didn't kvetch about how it was just a port. When Mario 64 came to the DS, I bought it too, again at full price. When Majora's Mask came to 3DS, I bought that too. When Super Mario Maker and Yoshi's Woolly World and Smash 4 and Xenoblade Chronicles came out on 3DS, I wasn't in the forums complaining about how terrible it was that all the 3DS ever got was downgraded Wii and Wii U ports and how I was being punished for my loyalty. And when Skyrim came to Switch, once again I bought it at full price even though I already have it on my PC - and I didn't run to the NL forum to talk smack about how it looked six years old, either (mostly because, seriously, it doesn't). I bought them all and was happy to pay full price for great games, regardless of whether my "loyalty" was being "rewarded".

I also supported them in all their efforts to establish new IPs, such as Animal Crossing (yeah, I remember when that was a new IP, I bought it and people thought I was completely nuts when I told them how good it was), Code Name: STEAM, and ARMS, both of which I bought and loved and promoted actively in various forums.

And I will continue to support them in the same way in the future, for example when The World Ends With You comes out later this year and I buy it at full price for the second time (and honestly, probably again in two years when Switch 2 comes out and its first game turns out to be Breath of the Wild DX and it costs $80 but it has shiny HD-polished graphics, twenty new shrines and fifty more korok seeds, because that is literally what Nintendo does).

So maybe take it down a notch or two about the "loyalty" or lack thereof, and let me know if you're still buying every new piece of hardware when you're into your fifth generation of Nintendo consoles and your seventh generation of video games overall, mm-kay?

(Edited to add a couple of important details and because I originally said "literally" literally five times, not counting those two times. Sorry, it's apparently a literally kind of day.)

@JasmineDragon

We are from the same generation (kind of) and I'm totally not agree with you...

I think you're not able to feel what it is to have support the Wii U against basically the entire world...

It's a feeling of, hummm, almost like a betrayal. I know it's hard to understand but just imagine for 2 seconds that Nintendo take a decision to resell all the Switch games of 2017 in 2019.

Yeah I know it sounds stupid but please, it's a mind game ok ?
Now, the same games have a relaunch AND there are almost no other games out for 2019...

So, you bought in 2017 all the games you were interested by, you played'em and now what ? We are (virtually) in 2019 and there is nothing to play for you because you're not gonna buy again the same games...

Maybe you can understand a little better how a supportive dude feels today when basically all the big titles available on the Switch are ports from the WiiU/3DS/Playstation/Xbox...

PEACE !

@Cobalt I get it, I really do. I can totally appreciate the feeling of betrayal when you stuck it out and were among the few people who bought a console, only to see the makers of that console neglect it and mishandle its marketing and then turn around and repackage the best games from it for the next generation. I've had that feeling in multiple fandoms, and I can honestly say I felt a lot of that during the Gamecube era. A LOT of the mistakes made with the Wii U happened with the Gamecube too, and I was a huge Gamecube fan. That feeling of the whole gaming world being against you and your favorite console? Yeah, that's a very familiar feeling to anyone who loved the Gamecube.

My post was in response to being told in the most insulting fashion that I was "disloyal" for not buying a Wii U, nothing more. I freely admit, and have said multiple times on NL, that I would probably feel very differently about the Switch if I had owned a Wii U or any other modern console. But I never did, partly because I was already spending a lot of money supporting Nintendo's handheld division with multiple 3DSes and a good number of games. So the idea that I was disloyal and not a true fan is baseless and insulting, and that was the point of my post.

@JasmineDragon

Ok, I totally understand your point.

Nintendo's problem is that they keep things secret for too long, thus investors get nervous and don't want to invest, then suddenly Nintendo announce a killer title(such as Metroid Prime 4 or the sequel to Mario Oddysey) and then investors invest in Nintendo like their life depends on it. Nintendo have a right to be quiet about things, but they should be more open about things they are working on. Youtube and Netflix, for example, nothing on that at all. For that matter, we don't even know if the Switch will ever have SD card save backup, preferably before the online service launches.

@JasmineDragon I had an Amiga back in the day, until the N64 came out and I have bought every Nintendo console since. I have two daughters who also have Nintendo Switch's and DS's. Also my comments were general and in response to the topic. You decided to own then and be offended by them.

That said, I can see you are extremely loyal to Nintendo and had a reason not to invest in a Wii u. Like others who stopped playing games; good reason not to but a Wii u.

The question was about Nintendo shares having gone down and was it because of the lack of new game announcements. I think yes, it might well be.

Back to my 'loyal' comment. The Wii, I read, sold about 90,000000 units. The Wii U 10,000000. Allowing say 40,000000 for those that used it with the balance board as an exercise machine and not so much for games, that still leaves 40,00000 people that did not buy the Wii u. My comments were about those who chose to buy a PlayStation or xbox instead and have now returned, and bought a Switch.

Nintendo have rewarded them with all the Wii u ports while neglecting us Loyal gamers. Having had a good 2017. Nintendo are so far having a below average 2018. Hence the share drop.
I am sniffing around for a single player AAA game to play on the Switch. This time last year it was hinted at that we would have Yoshi and Fire Emblem, but they have been shelved till next year, while Nintendo sell more Wii u ports.

Maybe the way forward is to own two consoles and split what one spends on games between both companies. 🤔

@zool
I think for the Wii U owners they should have given a discount on the Switch ports. It could have only worked for digital owners, but Id be more in inclined to double dip on some games if there was a 40 or 50% discount.

While the next few months are a bit lean, I think that the holidays are pretty stacked, with a focus on family/friends playing together (Mario Party, Pokemon Lets Go, Smash Ultimate). For a family man like me I'm likely to buy them all (even though im not interested in Mario Party I can see the kids bugging me to get it).

Next year will hopefully be more about 'just me', with Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 3 and Metroid Prime 4 being my most wanted games on any platform.

@CaPPa I agree about the discount but I'm not sure how it could work for those, like me who buy the physical version. I tend to play a game and then move on to the next one, I tend not to replay or keep many games. Always looking ahead for the next one, but right now I don't see much. Although Mario + Rabbids kingdom battle donkey kong will fill a few hours. 😀