Melee Player 'Hungrybox' Backs EON GameCube HDMI Adapter

I haven't played Melee in a while, but I did play through 1P Mode of SSB64 as Kirby yesterday. I hate the N64 controller, but it was fun anyways!

I read this article 3 times and I still don't understand a word of it....

@Dayton311 "I read this article 3 times and I still don't understand a word of it...."

One of the most famous professional Super Smash Bros players is endorsing an adapter that plugs into the back of launch GameCube consoles to output HDMI.

He also hosted a tournament using this technology which previously was unthinkable due to game breaking lag when HDTVs upscaled the signal from the original video cables.

I tried of these (this brand, maybe different model) and couldn't get it to work. I don't think it went in completely.

@NintendoFan4Lyf Instead of thinking go to www.google.co.uk and find out for yourself!

@Ooyah well I guess if your a casual and aren't a competitive Smash Bros gamer it won't be a big deal to you.

These types of products are of interest to retro gamers and collectors.

This looks and sounds phenomenal. Will definitely be looking into getting one of these once your site reviews the product.

Eh....
I use AV2HDMI on my Wii to play Gamecube games in 1080p TV output.
Well.... pretty bright and washout result for Wii games but worked perfectly for Gamecube games.

@Anti-Matter the Wii supports component cables for best picture. Why not use that instead

@1UP_MARIO
Actually i have a 3rd party Wii component cable, but for some reason, my SHARP Aquos TV still display both Wii & Gamecube games in 480i instead of 480p.
I can see very obvious the moving pixelate, but i almost didn't noticed that when i use AV2HDMI.

@Anti-Matter

There should be an option in the Wii settings menu to change to 480p and widescreen. For Gamecube games, make sure to hold b while starting the game. Otherwise it will just start in 480i.

@NintendoFan4Lyf

It was cracked. It's just complicated to do on your own and this is the 2nd option I know of other than official cable because it's a niche market.

I put in a request for an adaptor with ZeldaXPro two months back. I have yet to get a PayPal invoice to place my order. So, I'm on this if it hits production sooner.

As for Melee, I haven't played in years. I want this adaptor for Double Dash.

@NintendoFan4Lyf It's not an authentication lockout. It was a proprietary method of converting a digital signal to analog, that's why others haven't replicated it until now.

Only get this if you have a ntsc gamecube.
Europe cubers, we have RGB which looks similar and in my opinion has more vivid colours

@cleveland124
The B button is from Gamecube controller, right ?
I had never knew about changing 480i to 480p by holding B button.
Anyway, i will try it later on my Wii.

@Anti-Matter It does not work for every game though only a few. Most Nintendo first party games run in 480p & will prompt at startup automatically.

@Banjos_Backpack it won’t work with our pal gamecube games. Best picture for us is rgb. I tried component using a Wii for gamecube gsmes and I prefer the rgb. Both are really similar tho

@NintendoFan4Lyf
Unseen, a user at gc-forever figured it out and made his findings open source. Ron and ZeldaXPro both used Unseen's research to make their products.

@Dreamcaster-X
@1UP_MARIO
Most games can be forced into 480p mode by using Swiss.

Their website says "GCHD is the simple, reliable, and affordable solution", but on amazon it's sold for US$150. Is that the actual price?

I find this kinda useless considering you can build a PC for a relatively low price which will run Melee at any resolution (emulated) no problem, with equivalent or LOWER input latency than a Gamecube/Wii.

Spending $150 on this just seems kind of ridiculous when you can get a nearly lag-free solution with a higher resolution without spending a buttload of money extra. The lack of a need to upscale the image like on the GCHD is also a plus, so there are fewer artifacts and (depending on the scaler present in the monitor) noticeably lower input delay.

Oh, and a Wii + HDMI adapter is super cheap, though it messes with the image some in my experience.

@Banjos_Backpack I do have Wii component cables, I was just wondering because if this really is affordable, I'd like to try it, but I doubt I'd pay more than $50 (not that this isn't worth it, it's just I'm not willing to pay more than that for my needs).

Fun fact, I used to have the official GCN cables, but I traded them away online when the Wii came out because I thought I'd never needed it again, and at the time the component cables were still being sold online....

@nukatha Yes but for most people they won't know anything about that & 480i games still look great with the HDMI converter as long as your TV decodes it properly.

@Braok Most people don't want the hassle of a PC. Tell someone on the street they can get a cable with plug & play for $150 or build a PC, configure it to run Dolphin & Illegally download a rom, they'll take the cable 9 times out of ten.

@Dreamcaster-X
If you're in the market for a GCHD, you probably know how to run the basic homebrew utilities like Swiss and the Game Boy Interface.

@nukatha yes but that’s on a softmodded Wii or a media launcher gamecube with Swiss. What I meant was a standard pal gamecube will only output 480i. So the rgb option does the same thing with better colours and a whole lot cheaper. My rgb cable for the cube was under 10 pounds

It’s surprising that such a big scene (I’m assuming it’s big?) has still been reliant on CRTs to this day. That’s some good going. It makes sense they move to modern technology though, if they want to go another 15 years+.

Regardless, I’ll always play my Gamecube on a CRT (until they die completely anyway). Games from this era were just never meant to be played on 40”+ HD screens without the source resolution being increased in my opinion. I have the GC component cables, I’ve played these games at 480p on HD TVs, and they look gash. Now I wish I could see them at 480p on a CRT, oooh yeah.

The EON device is the ZeldaXPro one, they're just charging $50 more for that prettier piece of colorized and cut 3D printed plastic.

If the review pretty much says anything more I'd call bs on it if it's not much of a word for word repeat. Weird that they need to justify that price hike with a gaming ambassador.

I own the ZeldaXPro device that came out first, both using years of publicly developed work to produce what is done there and it's absolutely stunning how well it performs. I can't suggest it highly enough to anyone using a HDMI tv.

@GravyThief You're a little misinformed if you're comparing the GC at 480p on a HDMI using old style component cables in saying it's all gash as you put it. I'm using a HDMI TV that's in the lower/mid 30s in size and the games look remarkably better, and those that run in 480p (forced or by design) look stunning. The level of detail it pulls out compared to those expensive component cables are very clear cut and obvious. You might not want to dismiss it so easily as the better made stuff 1st and 3rd party has a more WiiU in quality level of clarity and detail.

@Mechageo Thanks so much.... makes total sense now

@tanookisuit I haven’t experienced GC games through HDMI, but I’ve seen Wii and PS2 games through HDMI on HDTVs via the Wii U and PS3. It’s not exactly the same, as I understand those consoles do the scaling and so output higher than 480p before getting to the TV, but either way I do not like the look of the games at all. The jaggies are too pronounced, and the colours too washed out compared to a CRT. It’s just not a look I like, and they look nothing like how I remember them back in the day.

8 and 16 bit games on the other hand seem to scale up to HD TVs very well when done properly.

I’m luckily to have been able to see the two side by side, and there’s no comparison in my mind. On the other hand, CRTs are big and clunky and hard to get these days, so being able to link up old consoles via hdmi with things like this great. I’m sure I’ll have to resort to it someday.

So does this one work without bricking the console?

Just saw how this adapter is $150 which seems ridiculous.

I have one and they are amazing. Its so nice to pair this with a gameboy player to play old gameboy games on new tvs

Nintendo really should just release an HD remaster, not a remake, keep the game as close to the original as possible. Just in HD on modern devices. The demand is clearly there.

That said, if we don't get Gamecube ports, I want one of these adapters.

It's super expensive.
I'd buy it if it costed $50 or something, just for a sharper picture on my GC games.

I don't get what's throwing people off so much. The third paragraph tells pretty much everything there is to it. Is it the words CRT and HDMI? They are acronyms really but more like words nowadays since they are so widely used.