Reggie Fils-Aime Dismisses Threat To Switch From Microsoft's Xbox One X

Not everyone wants a portable system.

So good to see Nintendo kicking bum again

Hopefully there is more interest in the Switch, due to E3.

Nintendo are the biggest threat to Switch

@SonicSpeedX "More interest in the Switch"

You can't find a Switch anywhere, I don't think interest is the problem right now.

@improviser Not everyone wants a $500 upgrade to a system they already have and that plays all the same games. XBox One X (aka XBOX) seems targeted at a very small niche to me.

Yeah, I can't imagine there are many, if any, people out there tossing up between a Switch and an Xbox One X. You can get a Switch and Xbox One S for only about £30 more than just the Xbox One X. It is only going to appeal to a very small niche market and that market does not really clash with the Switch.

@Nintendoforlife True, I was about to mention that as well. Another question, do you think that $299 is too much for a Switch?

Xbox has a limp selection of exclusives that pale in comparison to the quality that Nintendo and Sony offer.

I fail to see why millions upon millions of people would buy an Xbox One X just for 4K resolution. Not many people wanted an Xbox One before, and not many will want one now.

I've said this for years, but Nintendo operate on a very different playing field to Sony and MS. There's some crossover of course, but not a lot. Think @Menchi187 said it best - their biggest rival is themselves. If they get things right and concentrate on themselves then they'll be just fine. Whereas Sony and MS need to keep an eye on each other if they want to survive. There's four distinct areas in gaming right now - PC, Core console (PS4/Xbox), Mobile (iOS/Android) and Nintendo. Of those groups, core console and movile are the ones that need to worry about competition.

Either way it's a great space to be in for a gamer at the moment. Got myself a PS4 and a Switch and am very happy with both of them.

@improviser Not everyone wants a home console. Luckily, the Switch can work quite well as one or the other.

@SonicSpeedX I don't think so. It's versatile and provides a really good experience. As well as the fact it's a much better deal than the basic Wii u which also was $300

Today's world is all about mobility. Like me and my team of about 40 of us, 20+ of us owns Switch and we bring it everywhere with us; play local etc. Even on our business travel, Switch has become my must-bring item like my mobile phone and wallet.
I have to admit, my colleagues also owns PS4 or/and Xbox and they barely play on them anymore.
Switch is actually the way to go.

I have really enjoyed my xbox 360/ xbox one despite a few os issues over the years and think there are people within Microsoft who are genuine in wanting to please gamers as well as make profits. The PS4 has been popular this gen but I really wonder what there next generation will fare like. I can see Microsoft and Nintendo working together in some ways over the next few years to compete with Sony. I don't believe Microsoft see Nintendo as a threat the way they see Sony they see the Switch as a handheld with tv output and a different market completely. I'm not saying well see Mario appearing on Xbox One but Banjo in Smash?? Nintendo apps coming to Microsoft?? Cross play support becoming more common?? Maybe even working with third parties to get exclusives for themselves and blocking Sonys moves.

@KirbyTheVampire I think the Xbox One X selling millions of copies is inevitable. The question is, will it sell tens of millions of copies?

@improviser and not everyone wants to play on a potato couch all day either.
Get out of the house and get some fresh air!

Nobody is going to be debating between Xbox One X and a Switch. They're VERY different. If it was going to be a threat to anything, it'd be to the PS4 Pro (which won't happen, because Pro is significantly cheaper and the PS4 has a lot more exclusive content).

@improviser Not everyone wants to be tethered to a TV any time they play a game, either.

@improviser
Handhelds are MAJOR out there !
Why should stuck on TV if you can take it anywhere ?
Freedom is the key.

PS4 and Switch? lol

It's always been PC and latest Nintendo console.

@improviser

Its not just a portable system though is it. Many nintendo console owners can have this too docked and play the traditional way. The switch is truly for everyone.

@SonicSpeedX I think the PC/PS4/XB1 audience is interested in the portable aspect of the Switch, and playing games like Rocket League, FIFA, Skyrim, etc. on the go. While $300 is a good value for the contents of the current Switch bundle, I think a $200 bundle that only comes with the tablet and 2 Joy-Cons would attract more consumers.

Why limit the target audience to just those between 5 and 95?

Nintendo need to keep up to speed with the other platforms - not on a par technically, more in relation to their approach to services, relationships with 3rd party studios, and just generally to stay relevant with gaming culture.

The outlook is mixed but I believe positive on that front. If they do that and they push themselves to be the best version of Nintendo - then I think they will be around - and exciting for a long time. They're a special company that revels in being different and they're making some pretty cool waves with the Switch.

Hope they can make VC and online work well for their customers. Their online will never be the same as others - partly due to the nature of the hardware ad partly because they have a major focus on keeping kids protected and encouraging parents to feel at ease. As a parent I really appreciate that.

@improviser true, but this goes both ways. Not everyone wants a home system that'll gather dust between longer holiday periods in their BEST case scenario.

I feel Microsoft and Nintendo may end up building upon their recent ventures together. Microsoft does not see Nintendo as a threat and vise-versa. I can see the two cooperating to deliver a service that will allow for both to be viable.

Not saying we will see Halo 6 on Switch or Mario Odyssey on XBOne/XB1X, but more of cooperation in services and online support.

Nintendo gaming is on the rise. My Xbox One is a media center nowadays, nothing more and it having better rendering on its non-existent games is not going to bring me back.

I can say I have a xbox one s and tons of games for it and I was lucky to be able to get a switch already and find myself playing my switch more as a console and being able to lay in bed and game up on it is awesome as well.

I still need Monster hunter on my SWITCH in the West :/

Sold my PS4 a while back and never looked back, i was tempted to buy a a PS4Pro or a One X sice i do have a 4k TV but not worth it, my PC does a fine job at running games at 4k, medium/high settings at 30fps locked so it would be essentially the same... i do need a way (a cable maybe?) to connect my Pc to my TV without having to move my tower lol

Lol I can't wait until Xbox folds. I may have been a bit blind in the past with statements about Nintendo's naivety when it comes to console power, but they know what they are doing. They know they can't compete with PC, so they sit back and laugh as Microsoft attempts to, which is foolish. I don't understand who the Xbox One X is for? Buy a PC. Or get a PS4 because it has every game the Xbox One has and more, except for what? Gears of War and Halo lolol.

I would like Nintendo's consoles to have a little extra kick, but for now this is fine and we are getting great games that look great. I just hope the Switch has enough power to realistically feed the appetite of me and everyone else's high expectations for Metroid Prime 4's visuals.

What an odd question. "Mr. Fils-Aime, do you think your runaway hit of a console might be threatened by a more expensive version of a console that has struggled to sell and has few worthwhile exclusives; a version that is aimed at a small market of people who would rather game on PC, anyway?"

I don't have any 4K screens in my home and probably won't for quite some time. While I'd like to see the games I do have running better at 1080P I'm not about to spend 500$ for that. The Xbox One X is the machine that Microsoft should have released originally. I know the hardware would have been more expensive but I spent 500$ back at launch and we obviously don't need Kinect for anything now. Hopefully this generation will be a learning experience for MS. They definitely thought they ruled the roost and that bit them, hard.

While im not sure you could buy a PC with the GPU power of the OneX AT $499, slightly more (like $100) could net you the same GPU power + much more CPU power. Considering you have to add XboxLive + more expensive games, im not sure is still worth what you are paying for the OneX compared to a PC (in reasonable priced countries at least like USA, well also in Europe too which we know 499 euros =/= 499 dollars)

The Xbox One is not a treat, so why should Xbox One X be a treat, just because of some improved specs?

Nintendo is playing their own game, with some unique and different features. The others are playing hardcore powerhouses with PC, fighting for the same narrow customer segments.

Nintendo does always try to make the smart move. Not going where all the competition are going. Sometimes it pays off, like with the DS and Wii. Other times it ends in disaster, like with the Wii U. But with the Switch, it seems they hit a home run again. Lets see how it goes from here.

@improviser You're right. I don't care about the Switch being portable. I like home console gaming. But I've to put up with a gimped experience and graphics no better than Wii U because Nintendo have put all their eggs in 1 basket so to speak.

Switch vs Mobile. PS4 vs Xbox vs Steam. Switch Phone needs to happen at some point, maybe after 3DS?

@SegaBlueSky They were forced to operate like that when they consistently failed

@Menchi187 only if they go Treasure Planet on it like Sony did on Vita. And Nintendo didn't quite do that even with Wii U. Only Virtual Boy ship was abandoned posthaste.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Right. I just don't think I'm going to use the portability option on the Switch. In which case, it's not that much more powerful than the Wii U, which has dual screen gaming, free online, a web browser, Netflix/Hulu, and a huge game library.
I love the Wii U. I really think it would have been huge if it wasn't for the crappy marketing (needs a name change). For home counsel gaming, the Wii U seems like the way to go.

@DoctorWily You do realise your statement could be about Wii U to Switch?

"Not everyone wants a $300 upgrade to a system they already have(Wii U) and that plays all the same games."

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Seriously?
Indies and two ports =/= "all the same games".

@DoctorWily Exactly.

The X is meant to be a premium for the hardcore gamer. MS themselves are expecting the S to still be the primary version.

@improviser There's several reasons for the Wii U's failure, Nintendo themselves were the biggest culprits. What I don't hear people mention a lot is that when Wii U was struggling they could have had a price drop. Except could they really? The Wii U had one price drop over its lifetime, €50 after a couple of years. The reason it didn't have more or sooner was because of 3DS. Nintendo had to slash that by $100 soon after launch to try and rescue it and it worked. But they concentrated on the 3DS and possibly thought to themselves there's no way we're going to slash the Wii U by $100 as well. They were already in the red because of 3DS, another $100 loss on that would have been catastrophic to their already heavy losses. It would have been interesting to see if that would have saved the Wii U though. They could only afford to save one and they chose the safer bet in 3DS.

@improviser true but not everyone wants a spec heavy 500 dollar console either.

@ThatNyteDaez This. I don't want a home console, I love my experience with my 3DS way too much for that. Thus, the Switch.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I 💯 agree with you on this.

I dont think price of the WiiU was a problem to be honest, the Switch in a 3 minute 30 second reveal told the idea behind the console way better than the WiiU did in its entire lifespan.

Its all about marketing, samsung galaxy phones arent the best in every way possible (especially their low/mid range awful phones) yet they still sell A LOT, while OnePlus 3T with its much more interesting price point sells, its succesful, but in a much smaller scale, yet its like $300 cheaper

While I don't disagree with Reggie, I feel Nintendo don't put enough emphasis on the core gamer.

@SonicSpeedX considering the demand, if anything the console is priced too low. it's when sales drop that a price needs to be lowered (or some other value added to keep the price up such as a bundled game)

@CrazedCavalier 2 Wii U ports from Nintendo but more on the way from them(Pokken Tournament). Plus don't forget the 3rd party Wii U ports, e.g Lego City Undercover, Dragon Quest X, Just Dance 2017, Minecraft, Skylanders Imaginators, etc. And again just like Nintendo there's more Wii U to Switch ports still to come from 3rd parties(Rayman Legends). The indie developers though have been far and away the biggest offenders of trying to grab a quick cheap buck. And I didn't include 3rd party ports that while they weren't on Wii U, they were on other systems.

I'm honestly thinking it may turn to XB1S/XB1X and Switch rather than PS4/PS4 Pro and Switch especially with Sony's anti-consumer policies regarding things such as cross-play.

@GravyThief

Well people a couple centuries old tend to be kill-joys. There's not really a live market for that kinda thing.

Sorry I'll take my leave now.

Targeting 5 - 95 means going mobile. Maybe they have secret plans with Nvidia/Samsung.

@improviser ...and not everyone wants a system that keeps you tethered to a TV either. Why do you think that smart phone and tablets exploded? There was no longer a need to stay clued to your computer/monitor.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE The first year of both the PS4 and Xbox One were filled with ports of older games.
Nobody was saying they were the same as their predecessors then.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE

You wanted good graphics from a Nintendo machine? You're doing it wrong.

Xbox one X is a threat to absolutely no one - it's expensive and has access to a library of games you can find on the direct competitor and on PC. And if you care THAT much about raw power and specs than you are probably playing on PC anyway...especially when all the Xbox key titles are released foe Windows 10 as well.

@foobarbaz The Switch has only been out for a few months, and it's going to have a good library a lot faster than something like the PS4 did. There was very little worth buying on that system for quite a while.

To me xbox is totally unnecessary at the moment. But to be honest the playstation starts to feel unnecessary too. More and more stuff (especially japanese) is also released on the pc.

But im sure ill still buy a playstation 4 around the time the next one gets released. Because luckily they still have good exlusives.

And i believe everyone needs a nintendo console or handheld.

I sold my PS4 about the time that the Switch was released due to it never getting played. I still have my 3DS, Wii U, Xbox One S, gaming PC, iPad and now a Switch. Since the Switch has come out, I've bought a lot of games, but none on the Xbox, PC or iPad. If a game is multiplat and on the Switch, that is where I'll buy it. I can play while sitting at my desk, on the family room TV or while I'm out and about. I do not have any intention on being completely tethered to a TV for gaming ever again. While I will still play games on the other "TV" systems and might even buy a Pro and X at some point, most of my gaming going forward will be off the TV.

aiming for 2 totally different markets.

Totally different markets. I have an xbox one and a wii u. I'm good for awhile. Next purchase will be a switch but I've decided to push that to late 2018 or early 2019. I'll probably upgrade to an xbox one x around the same time. Xbox is awesome. Your gaming library carries over. Media options are great. Best console I've owned since a gamecube. The Wii U is a Switch lite you can't take with you on the go, and I'm good with that for now.

I'm definitely buying the X. Already own a PS4, XBoxOneS, and Switch, and the PS4 is my least favorite of the 3. Looking forward to upgrading to X.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I didn't realize that ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario + Rabbids, Skyrim, Odyssey, MP4, etc were all coming to the Wii U. Every new console gets ports of old games nowadays. But XBOX and XBone literally play all of the exact same games. If you have an XBone you miss absolutely nothing in terms of gameplay experiences. You can't say the same thing with Wii U and Switch.

In terms of graphical fidelity, it's nice that XBOX is there for the people who care about those small differences in visuals. That's the small niche of people that Microsoft is targeting with this console. Anyone expecting XBOX to be a massive seller is fooling themselves though as the majority of gamers either don't care or don't have the resources. Personally, I always laugh when I see videos comparing the visuals between PS3, PS4, and PS4 Pro. The jump in quality from one generation to the next was massive 20 years ago. Now, not so much. It's called the law of diminishing returns. Wii U graphics are just fine for me. My Switch is for the new experiences and the ability to take them with me anywhere. Any slight graphical improvements made by the Switch are just a bonus for me.

I am going to buy one. I'm a gamer and a collector. I also love technology. I have a 4k tv and it would be nice to take full advantage of it.
The more systems for me, the merrier.

Lol Microsoft is so not a threat to Nintendo, they will be in a distant third in less then a year. The only question is how long before Nintendo and Sony are tied

Oh, the humility of Nintendo's PR.

After seeing Phil Spencer's nice, respectful comments on Nintendo hardware and software time and again, this is honestly embarrassing to read.

As a gamer and a game store owner, I must admit I am confused by the Xbox One X. I understand what it is just not who it is being marketed to. It feels extremely niche both from what it offers and the price point. The fact that not all games will even hit 60 FPS is also mind boggling. If the aim is high end graphics, I would think then competition is really PC, and I'm not convinced the XOX can win that battle. While the XOX is an impressive piece of hardware, I just don't see millions of people paying to upgrade.

So far this console gen MS seems to be so focused on hardware that they've vastly ignored software. The dominance of the PS4 proves that at the end of the day, systems sell because of games, and exclusive titles are the driving force of which console to buy. It may almost be too late for MS on the current gen at this point.

What about all the 105 years old people out there?

At 599 USD, I don't think very many people(especially me since I'm from Canada) will be getting xbox one x until it drops in price.
I'm happy with my switch and ps4 combo.

A wider demographic? They never found the Wii U theatre then.

@Faruko
This is my problem with Sony and Microsoft. Most everything that is worth while on them is also or will be on the computer. And the few actual exclusives are meh at best to me. Why buy a sub par gaming computer when you can build something far better with a bit of time and patience that can be easily upgrade. PC and Nintendo all the way.

This has always been Nintendo's goal. They just want to sell games and systems...they don't really care who picks them up and from financial standpoint that has worked quite well for them...even in bad years they have still turned a profit. I don't think they expected the sheer apathy and confusion the wiiu got (despite being a great system and getting a lot of really good games) but other than that it has been business as usual for them. Just doesn't get them gamer cred with the teens and twentysomethings.

Microsoft needs to do something out of the box. If they give us Nintendo fans something nice we might love them again.
Bring a killer instinc (my all time favorite figjting game) and banjo to the switch. most of the fans will love microsoft for it.

They havent convince me yet, my ps4 is gone, was collecting dust. So now im just enjoying switch, but maybe if microsoft can convince me who knows.?

Microsoft is PC and Xbox. They win either way. Console gaming is still much more elegant and user friendly than PC gaming, which appeals to a lot of people. The Xbox One X has a place and it won't stay $499 (which isn't even that bad tbh) forever.

Will it be a smash hit? Maybe. Maybe not. Xbox has addressed all their hardware concerns, now it's time for them to focus on software. I'm confident we'll see many more first party games from MS in the coming years.

It's a good time to be a gamer. It's a bad time to be a fanboi.

@foodmetaphors Hmm, you have a point. I can't find one anywhere.

I'm happy with my Switch/PC/PS4 combo. My Xbox One just sits and collects dust anyways.

@Hamguar People just dont understand that even a simple 1060 or RX480/580 can do 4k at 30fps at medium/high. Thats the problem, 4k is NOT THAT HARD to move honestly, mid tier GPUs can do it this generation with the amount of gddr5 they have, only if you want to push much more frames you need to start looking at the $350+ tier.

a $249 GPU right now can net you 1080p/60 with ease, i played Gears of War 4 at 4k/30 on my RX 480 (which i plan to upgrade once Vega comes out), not a single fps drop, locked the frame rate and called it a day.

@improviser You're right. But the Switch isn't a portable system if you don't want it to be.

The demographics are totally different anyway.
It's literally east vs west when comparing the software catalogue for each system so those tastes not always overlap.

@Faruko The cheapest RX 480 on newegg is $639 USD. $140 USD more than the One X. $249 just for a gpu to game at 1080/60 isn't some great deal. It's half the cost of the One X! Once you add the other required components, you'll be well past $499. You're making a great case for the One X.

Most consumers will be attracted to the cost, easy setup and use that the console will provide over PC. Either way, whether you choose PC or Xbox, Microsoft wins.

It really makes no sense for Microsoft to keep expensive first party software off the PC, a platform they completely dominate. Options are good.

Nintendo, otoh, will have us pay for LttP and MK64 for the 3rd or 4th time.

@SharkAttackU Pretty sure you can build a PC with great capabilities for $599, maybe more or even less if you can find a few deals

And you cant stop counting the extra price in games, $60 a year for XBL (that youll probably pay when you buy the console), so suddenly, $499 becomes $559, and you arent that far from a great 1080p/60 or 4k/30 fps PC, you only need to know where to spend.

Add a few games on steam sale, and gg, you already saved money bar exclusives (which PC has its own, also retrocompatibility without having to wait for someone to allow it, 95% of the cases at least)

Any platform goes great together with Nintendo Switch. I really want Nintendo's hybrid platform to go with my PS4 Pro.

"So it’s a different approach for us, and that approach is winning."

OH SNAP!

@improviser True, but many more people dont want to spend £450 on an upgrade to an existing console.

@Grawlog Same, I may just sell off my PS4 and get one down the line after the exclusives all released. I barely used it the entire time I had it so far. Nintendo and Xbox combo offers a good mix of multiplayer and single-player experiences and a 4K blu-ray player with Dolby Atmos, whereas Ps4 offers mainly somber single-player games and only 4K streaming same as my TV.

So I could game at 4k at 60fps, or I could spend less on a newer graphics card to push far more demanding games at a lower resolution at 144fps minimum, while having a much better selection of games and control options and the ability to upgrade to an ultrawide and/or 1440p or 4k display later. Yeah, forget XBOX.

@SteamedSquid Xbox is really more about the premium living room experience. If you'd rather game on the PC, stick with that but if you want to watch 4K movies and play 4K games with Dolby Atmos on a 4K HDR display in your living room, Xbox One X is a good option to have.

@improviser it's not just a portable, it's a hybrid. It's making the argument that it can be your primary system, whether Sony wants to believe it or not.

If the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X become popular it will be a significant problem for the Switch, because more and more developeder will start making games for the Pro & 0ne X which has a larger graphical gape for the Nintendo Switch to fill compared to the Switch competing with the early Xbox One. Developers will start making excuses saying the Switch is to under powered for there games. For the Nintendo Switch to have a better future in it's life Xbox One X & PS4 Pro sales numbers need to be low than expected.

The Switch can compete with the Xbox One, but the One X is on a whole new level.

@Meaty-cheeky Likely not going to happen. The level of graphics we see in the current generation of consoles is reaching a point of diminishing returns. So from the development standpoint, using more effort and funds to harness the power of the pro and 1X wont likely be a priority if the return on their investment is small.

@Si2k78 you are very right. I just don't want developers making excuses again like they did for the Wii U, and for them not to develop games on the Switch. If the Switch continues its sales momentum then Nintendo should be able to hold onto more third party developers.

@DoctorWily The xbox one X is basically the next gen fyi. it would be easier to call it just next gen, but with all these halfsies nowadays it really blurs the lines. (nintendo is guilty of this too.)

@Hamguar The problem is getting nintendo to actually make the games they are known for making good. (animal crossing (not the darn spin offs) Super mario sunshine type games (yes i know FINALLY they have odyssey) a real mario party game, and metroid. ( not federation force oh my gosh).

@SharkAttackU It feels like the good ol days of gaming again

Never took my switch outside of my house. Not taking a expensive piece a hardware out for hooligans to get their thief like hands on it.

@Shane76 I feel yeah, Halo has gone downhill so fast under 343 studios. There Halo games just don't feel right. Plus the new campaigns are so boring now, but Halo 5 was the worst ever.

the most powerful home console, until eventually something more powerful will come. The only thing that matters are the games and for my taste Microsoft never did anything appealing to me. People who like their games will enjoy it. People who buy it because it is "the most powerful home console" will be disappointed after some time.

Nintendo could really have cannibalised both sony and microsofts market share moving forward if the switch had the grunt to play the 3rd party titles.
The reality we have is it clearly was to risky for nintendo to beef up the gpu and find a price point reggie's favourite - Consumers -would buy into.

More powerful suplimentary dock may do the trick , but i do know that shareholders like money, and they wont be content with being 2nd best, i know i wouldnt.

I see everyone attacking improviser for whatever reason you think is true (and notice i'm not defending him because i don't know in what way he meant what he said) but in a way he IS right, not everyone wants to play on a portable system and the proof of that is the millions of people (60 on the PS4 for ex) that are buying home consoles and other millions who play on pc. Some people prefer to play on a couch (or a chair, or on the floor, or whatever lol) and watch the game on a big screen rather than on a portable console.. I actually prefer botch ways (my first console was a portable console) but i can understand this and i don't think you people should take this so personal specially since we're talking about people's tastes here. And just to make it perfectly clear i'm NOT defending anyone or any console here (specially not Xbox since i have no interest in it whatsoever).

@GravyThief True, it should be 1 to 120 year olds. Lol.

I feel like most people don't have 4k TVs, so the Xbox One X is kind of a niche market. Even those who do, I can't imagine that many of them care enough to drop $500.

@SharkAttackU You are assuming PC upfront is more expensive, i know that, but in the long run (or even in the short one if you build it alongside a Steam/GOG/Uplay/Origin sale) is way more cost effective and you have great paths to upgrade.

AM4 and Ryzen are supposedly to be supported for the next 4 years at least.

I don't think anyone at Nintendo or Sony is worried about a $500 Xbox One X being a threat to their business.

@SEGATA_DREAMCAST
NIntendo's deal is, as I see it, as grandpa as they are they are at their core they are artists. They ALWAYS want to innovate and tweak. Much like how a chef would forever dabble on a recipe never satisfied always looking to improve and innovate.

Mind you that it is a great thing to have but it also can be frustrating when all fans want is a simple sequel/continuation an so on. It is why we had those forced controls in the latest Starfox and how F-Zero has remained untouched. It is also how we have Mario Odyssey. For better and worse Nintendo will always seek to innovate game play. You just have to be patient, persistent, and keep voting with your wallet as you pass on the duds on the way to the gems.

@N-Gage I sense some biase here on you wanting Nintendo to go mobile.

Yeah. It's apples and oranges. Both fantastic devices, each scratching different itches and appealing to different markets.

I plan on buying both a Pro and a 1X, as well as a second GTX1070 for SLI, pushing my PC well beyond the reach of the 1X, which will be closer to comparability with my current single-1070 rig than I thought....or like.

But through it all, the Switch is the darling. And even with being a PC gamer, a PS4 Gamer, an XB1 gamer, a 3DS gamer, and even a Vita gamer, other than pre-ordering Cuphead, I have not spent a dime on software for any of those systems since getting the Switch - because -IT'S- where all my money's been going!

Cheers!

Between a PS4 Pro or a XOX... I'd prefer to build a computer to have alongside my Switch.
Those consoles require you have a 4k TV to get all the benefits and I'm not changing my TV unless we get another big jump in tech, like it was from CRT to plasmas, or I win one in a contest.
I can simply upgrade a computer according to my needs and have Steam. I can live without the exclusives, thank goodness.

@Grumblevolcano

Please go into detail about how not supporting Cross-Play is anti-customer. How it effects people's game's in a negative way even though its only supports two game's. And the benefits of how playing against Switch/Xbox players is any different from playing against PS4 players. Its also like the Sony doesn't support Cross-Play because thay do, their is also no difference between playing against PC player than what there is playing against PS4 player. If fact you wouldn't even know if wasn't for the fact there is a icon next to the name of the PC/PS4 player. Cross-Play has been that important because how anti-customer it is it hardly ever spoken about, oh sorry once in a blue moon especially if its a slow news day. And no one battered a eye-lid when Microsoft did the very same thing, thats how anti-customer people thought that was at that time. But the funny thing is it takes developers to speak about anti-customer policies like Microsofts parity clause, not the customers themselves which tells you everything you need to know. This is just a case of sheep following sheep in a need to moan, with whats become buzzwords like anti-customer in a long list of other buzzwords.

UPDATE:

So, not even two or three hours after this last comment where I had asserted that other than CupHead, I have spent $0.00 on new games that weren't Switch games since the release of the system, I ended up making both halves of that assertion false. Not only did I end up not pre-ordering Cuphead today, but I bought a whopping four 3DS eshop games today: LoZ: Triforce Heroes, that Mario and Luigi paper game (blanking on the name), Smash Bros, and NES Remix.

However, thanks to a Father's Day gift card, I did still manage to increase my Switch software library today with a hard copy of.......ARMS!!!! YAY!!!

Big game-get day for me, 100% Nintendo game day too! Reggie Fils Aime looks down upon me from his Lakitu cloud with the warming glow of hearty approval!

You're welcome, Reg! You're VERY welcome!

@Luna_110 Between the raw power and customizability of the PC on the one hand, and the flexibility, diversity, and go-anywhere nature of the Switch on the other, other than a few rare one-offs for a select few special case reasons, I'll never buy another game on PS4 or XB1 if it's a game that I can get on either PC and/or Switch instead.

Don't get me wrong, I still prize the conventional consoles for their exclusives, free goodies, and tight form-factors/UIs/ecosystems. I mean, I'm planning to spend a combined $900 at tax time for the Pro and 1X for crying out loud. But when there's a PC in the house, and when there's a Switch, I'm only going to patronize them for stuff I can't get elsewhere.

Now, I imagine once I have the Pro and the XB1X, I'll make a few more exceptions to the rule for the purposes of making comparisons between versions. Or if there's a game that's so amazingly optimized that it manages to outperform the PC version despite the latter running on much superior hardware*. But the general rule itself will still stand. PC and/or Switch whenever possible and PS4/XB1 only when they're my only options - and 1X over Pro any time I have that choice!

Cheers!

*=A scenario which would've been utterly impossible on the standard PS4/XB1, but is remotely possible on PS4 Pro, and a pretty real prospect on XB1X, - may even still be remotely possible even after I add that second 1070 for SLI.

@NerdNoiseRadio
I agree with you! I've been thinking of getting something to complement my future Switch purchase, and I've been inclining to start saving for a gaming PC.
Yes, PS4/Xone have some interesting exclusives, but I could play Xbox's on a PC and I can live without playing Ps4's, while a Pc gives me access to Steam.

Plus, I can use a powerful PC for other stuff. I'm not keen on multimedia centers - I barely use Netflix - so I don't need another box in my TV stand with the extra cables involved.

Enjoy your purchases! That's the most important thing though. Cheers!

@Nintendoforlife

Not to be cheeky but you can find them in Asda Dundee. So I guess they are still easy to come by.