Nintendo confirmed yesterday that Fire Emblem is one of the next titles it is bringing to mobile phones. Speaking in the Financial Results Briefing, president Tatsumi Kimishima outlined why Fire Emblem was selected, and what form the final game will take.
Kimishima confirmed that Fire Emblem is now seen as a major franchise for Nintendo - a sign of how far it has come in a short space of time - and he also explained that while the mobile version will be more accessible than its console forerunners, it will still provide a "fully engaging experience":
As I mentioned before, the latest title, Fire Emblem Fates, is selling well in America and has found a wide audience outside of Japan as well. We have also released many spin-off titles and related products, and this has become a major IP for Nintendo, both in name and in substance.
We are currently developing an application for smart devices based on Fire Emblem. We expect that many consumers will experience Fire Emblem for the first time on their smart device, so this application will offer a more accessible style of gameplay compared to the titles for dedicated video game systems. At the same time, we still aim to provide a fully engaging experience as a role-playing simulation game.
Can Nintendo possibly transfer the feel of a Fire Emblem title to smartphones? What concessions do you think the company will have to make to ensure the title is successful on such devices? Let us know by posting a comment.
im not sure what to think of this. (i still like the card game idea that we discussed, )
Fire Emblem on Mobile? The franchise is doomed!!!!
It's actually a good thing that Nintendo considers Fire Emblem one of its major IPs, one that they will promote to many more eyeballs on smartphones. I don't like smartphone gaming anymore than you, folks, but we have to get used that it is now a quintessential part of the Nintendo brand promotion.
Have they stated if this mobile iteration will be free to play or a paid download?
So many great franchises at their disposal, and they keep pumping out Fire Emblem games. sigh
@Samurai_Goroh like you said. cool that the IP is now among the strongest of nintendo. but, to be honest, I always judge games on smart phone. and this one is not making any exceptions for the same reasons afordmentionned by @steel76
It'll totally be a petting game. Nintendo didn't remove it from Fates due to potential backlash but instead to make it into its own mobile game for $$$.
This was the biggest blow out if all the announcements for me yesterday. It really makes me fear for the future of the franchise!
And the fans get mad for stupid reasons in 3...2...1...
This may be my first Fire Emblem. Say what you will, but this could be a effective way to get more people interested in the series.
This doesn't necessarily mean Fire Emblem is going to change. It just means Nintendo is willing to put time and effort in making their series' well known.
@A01 Just yes.
I only got into Fire Emblem just recently with the e-shop sale on Fire Emblem GBA and DS virtual console games. Very impressive they are too. I can't speak about Animal Crossing as I haven't played any of those but choosing Fire Emblem for what is obviously now seen as a necessary step into mobile gaming seems a smart move to me. Turn-based strategy works very well on touch screen tablets and as long as care is taken Fire Emblem will be a great success.
In other words, if you thought Birthright was easy, dont worry, that will seem like Dark Souls compared to this!
Oh Nintendo, please find your way...
I have no problems with this AS LONG......as it doesn't inhibit future full console releases and it's a standalone game or spin off title.
Can help further exposure and introduce more people to the series. Maybe include adverts for Fire Emblem Fates or future titles as a way of earning "currency".
I always thought Fire Emblem would be one to put on smart devices as it makes sense to me.
Don't like smart phone games much much myself but I think it's worth a try as long as Nintendo don't affect the core games.
Thtat pic though...
Maybe if they took out all the crap that detracts from the awesome gameplay of defeating the enemy with the resources given, it could be good.
First off the fact two well selling titles have turned this franchise into a major I.P. seems impressive and a really fast turn around.
I expected the mobile effort to pull in Mario, Zelda, Miis. Maybe some others like Animal Crossing, Metroid, Warioware, Pikmin. Pokemon was already expected by me, as they had previously released a pokedex and "GO" is in beta. Fire Emblem was off my list and it stings to see it going here because I doubt we'll see much of anything.
I'm not expecting anything worth bothering with, my expectations are no classic mode, just casual as you can't reset a phone game, no Lunatic or extra challenge. I'd say we be set in the deep realms, mainly fooling around with a "my castle" mode. Small cast of characters, about ten chapters long designed to at longest be 20-30 minutes with some kind of sleep mode/save state. I expect the class system to be highly reduced, likely back down to single paths and no reclassing. Weapons likely also take a knock back, I doubt we see daggers and magic is likely reduced to a single line of increasing in power spell books. Now to mobile make it. I'm guessing daily invasions of enemies or the ability to attack groups of enemies daily to force us to grind, to be able to take later chapters. They might even make most weapons breakable to force us to have to use a slowly earned amount of daily gold and I'd think the choke point for money would be to either summon more enemy attacks, to attack more enemies and/or to get more money. I'd also suspect that there'd be some kind of mode to handle fighting friend armies. Oh and because why not, dlc maps to extend the story or to get a "real ending".
I think out side of dlc, we see our character either in a Robin or Corrin role as an avatar of us. Then one mage, one archer, one pegasus knight, one fighter, one mercenary, one myrmidon, one cleric, one cavalier, one thief and one wyvern rider. So that's 11, we likely see one more for 12 main units and maybe childern because I'm not sure they'd throw supports to this or not. This is of course the best I'd expect them to throw out there, I'm expecting less then this.
I don't want to see this mobile is foolish to me. Play a game on my phone? What do you think I get handheld systems for? Too look pretty on my desk and to show off? No, to play games, on the go.Worst of all I learned in my small time fiddling with phone games, a game can get upgrade beyond what your phone can handle despite being previously playable and downloadable, rendering the game unplayable. So I'd rather pay up front and get a game for a computer or dedicated device and be sure not only am I getting a full experience, there is no pay wall, no micro transactions in my way and I'm getting a full game. I don't expect any of that from mobile and its why I don't bother or would rather not bother. I gave Miimoto a pass and will likely keep it up with the rest of the mobile efforts, they'd have to do some real work to get me to consider grabbing these future titles.
Thanks for that.
What could be more accesible than nornal/phoenix Mode? It does make you Wonder...
We'll see. I doubt that I'll play much of it if they overdo the paywalls and microtransactions.
I'm really curious what sort of gameplay it'll have though. I bet it'll be completely different to a standard Fire Emblem game.
no doubt this will be Free to play full of micro transactions. as long as the series remains on dedicated hardware cant say I that bothered.
Having replayed the GBA games on my phone, I can say this kind of game lends itself well to mobile gaming's functionality - whether or not this game will be any good is a completely different matter, but we'll see. I'll at the very least give it a go if it's free-to-play.
@Grumblevolcano Can you pre order mobile games?
There's no reason to fear for the series' future. It's just a simple experimental title. A spin-off. I think trying to bring the Fire Emblem IP to mobile devices is a great idea. The series is having a surge in popularity recently, and this can be a way to sort of introduce it to even more people. Then get them interested in playing the main Fire Emblem game series. So don't get upset if the game's dumbed down, because it's not just being made for long-time fans. That said, I, an experienced long-time fan, am excited to see how this new title works and just hope that it will have the same Fire Emblem lore. Don't act like they're defacing their own series by trying different gameplay methods. At least not until we actually know what the gameplay is going to be like.
Nintendo is trying to expand the franchise. I applaud them for that.
It seems like good marketing.
Remember how Awakening was made a lot easier and with different gameplay aspects? Yeah, it became the most popular game in the series and introduced a lot of people to it. So what's up with this mobile game? It's going to be a lot easier and have different gameplay?
Give it a chance, people. They're just trying to expand the audience.
I love Fire Emblem, but I just hope that now Nintendo class it as a major franchise that doesn't mean there gonna milk it, but alas I think it might be the case.
Fire Emblem for phones will work,but it'll do doubt be plagued with micro transactions that will make battles easier, and give you special characters like Marth and Ike for a price.
Guys its a freakin mobile game, not a console game. its expected that its in no way gonna live up to its major titles. But heres how I see them doing it. You play as your own avatar charecter, then you can recruit soldiers, buildings for camp, weapons, class changes, ect with ingame currancy. and I believe it will have a clash of clans feel to it. with building your own castle, fighting other players in real time, in their kingdom or yours. and maybe an optional storymode. thats my guess but dont be thinking its gonna live up to its other titles
First of, Awesome to pick Camilla for the news!
Second, just....no. I am saying that because I know what they will do with this one and its not gonna be good compared to what we have.
If to some accessible means easy then I would urge them to try out Pokémon Shuffle Mobile. If that's the definition of easy... The game was barely announced, we know nothing of it yet, and already people concluded it's going to be a free-to-start game with dumbed down everything. For all we know it might be a fully paid-for game like other mobile games are, check out what Square Enix do with their re-releases (although their example about pricing isn't exactly the best). If anything Nintendo has shown that they're not willing to tread the same paths that everyone else are treading and the way they develop games for mobile, as seen with Pokémon Go, is to do things with them that fully take advantage of the medium, that couldn't be done on other devices. I bet you there might be some social integration about that Fire Emblem game, and I can already think up some great, interesting ideas about how social networks could come into play with a Fire Emblem mobile experience.
I'd like to see the card game go digital so I can play it. As long as the keep making consile/handheld versions I'm ok with mobile getting a version.
Just how much more accessible can they make the gameplay? Awakening and Fates are the epitome of simple SRPG gameplay. They can be translated to mobile easily with no changes and still be accessible to the mobile gaming audience as that was exactly what they were designed for.
I guess if they wanted to dumb down gameplay even further, they can remove the weapon tiers and ranks so that there's just one of each weapon type + "legendary" weapons (maybe) and also remove weapons triangle so no one has to consider weapon effectiveness. They could also bring stats back to the GBA era by making STR and MAG the same, and they could even take things further by making DEF and RES the same thing (even though they aren't) and also remove the LUK stat.
What else can be removed?
Whatever the case, I'm sure this would make the game even more mobile friendly than it already was and the Awakening and Fates crowd will surely adore this game as well.
Perhaps we can get all character art be done by a ton of guest artists rather than just one, like most mobile games? I'd love to see Kita Senri illustrate a character or two again and I'd love to see an original FE character from Fujisaka Kimihiko and Hakoda Maki.
EDIT: Perhaps the game will be similar to Chain Chronicle in structure, where there is a main story but you can play minor sidequests/side stories that can be event related or even character related.
Everyone here seems to think that mobile essentially means it has to be completely dumbed down gameplay or no content, however games like Chain Chronicle, which are heavily character driven just like FE, can prove the opposite and still be quite popular (though sadly CC has shut down...).
If Nintendo and DeNA can structure mobile FE like Chain Chronicle, but with FE gameplay, they'll have a winner on their hands.
You can preregister. Often times you'll get special items or characters by doing so.
I suspect it will be similar to birthright, but with less emphasis on character stats, weapon levels, and the more detailed parts of the game. I'm expecting more emphasis on multiplayer battles and something like the castle raid parts of Fates. I also suspect the story will be a little less serious and the scale will be a little smaller. I'm sure the core TBS gameplay will be the same as we're used to in a FE game, so everybody calm down.
I also strongly suspect that it will be similar to Fates. A few chapters for free, a branching decision, the various branches of which will be behind a paywall, along with sundry map packs as smaller paid DLC. I'm fine with that. Frankly, they could have released Fates that way on the eShop, and it would have been fine with me.
Also, all these people whining about Birthright being too easy... Why don't you just play Conquest?
@PlaytendoGuy FWIW, that's kind of how Fates is. The game is easier if you buy the DLC for experience grinding, but it's not necessary. I actually find the game more fun/challenging without all the grinding, because then getting the right characters experience is a key part of each mission, not just finishing the objective.
100% it won't be the same quality as the main series games. Also maybe it might have that face petting mini game people were whining about
@AVahne Thanks. I had no idea, I kinda dismissed mobile game but I decided that was dumb, I should expand my horizons.......I'm sure you didn't care lol
Lol no problem. TBH I feel most people here should expand their horizons....
@AVahne Some of the best games I played were games that I played out of my comfort zone, also video games are for fun, sometimes I feel like people forget that
I think this is a great idea. The Fire Emblem franchise has incredible room for growth, and I have emulated Fire Emblem on my phone, so I think the core gameplay is transferrable over to smart devices. I do worry that be "accessible", however, they may mean "Overly simple".
why dose this need stating everytime, the Mobile games are not for us "real" gamers, what works on console doesn't always work on mobile and vice versa.
This game will be simplified for touch screens, the habits of mobile gaming and the audience. The console games will probably be unaffected, they all ready have the classic and casual modes. Nintendo has learned its very very hard to convert casual gamers into core gamers they are not going to change their core business to attract them again. Liking a Free App doesn't make most people run out to buy a console and the game. Nintendo hopes to make money off these apps first and raise brand awareness, they don't use it gauge what people want. If that was the case Zelda U/NX will be an question and answer game
the spin off fire emblem for mobile surely will accept to Mobile Gamers i mean more experience and said nintendo engaging and accessible, This time will be different looking for this year
Well i can't wait to see what it would look like but i think this could be a great succes .
@TheDarkKnight851 You're right, video games are supposed to be fun. These days so many people are hung up on the culture of it. The games become more about expressing some kind of cultural identity rather than doing something enjoyable.
I'll be marauded for saying this, but I think Federation Force is a great example. People are up in arms not because they think it won't be any fun, but because it's not "a real Metroid game." It doesn't fit the cultural status they have built for themselves as "Metroid fans."
Already people are decrying this game they know nothing about because it won't be "a real Fire Emblem game." I think it's a big reason so many were turned off of the Wii, and why so many are so hateful of mobile games. When too many people get into their hobby, the "gamers" feel like they have lost a part of their "gamer" identity, and need to establish themselves as "real gamers" or "hardcore gamers" by rejecting the things that are most popular. Just spinning off some dime store psychology.
I myself don't like most mobile games, especially since so many are just microtransaction cash grabs these days, but there are a few good ones out there worth checking out.
The word "accessible" in conjunction with smartphones does not fill me with great confidence.
Now if you excuse me I'm going to water down my orange juice with a truckload of the stuff.
Fire Emblem won't work as well on a Smartphone unless it is a cut down version. I like the 3d so that will be lost on a Smartphone
But Pokemon Shuffle IS better on a Smartphone. I have a 5.7 inch screen on my Smartphone which is about the same size as the 3ds top screen. and the playing area is bigger on the Smartphone and it works better wtih a finger than the 3ds does with a stylus.
@ducktrapper Yeah I agree, this can only be good for the series.
It sounds like he's just saying it's going to be dumbed down to try to make it appeal to casuals.
I don't see how you can make Fire Emblem even more "accessible" than Phoenix Mode (which I don't have a problem with since it's an option), other than massively simplifying the mechanics.
The more fire emblem fans the better. If fire emblem works on the GBA a console with only 7 buttons I'm sure they'll find a way to recreate that portable experience we all love with the GBA ones. In fact while typing this comment I remembered Japan got a ton of fire emblem games we didn't they probably had even less buttons! So yes as long as it's good quality and not a micro transaction tornado I don't mind. I'll also be able to earn platinum coins far easier too haha
@MysteryAozz I had forgotten that they had the trading card game in Japan. This maybe what they try. Their version of Hearthstone. There is potential there. 👍
People don't know what "it's gonna be" like. They don't. But they sure feel entitled to their negativity before there's cause
Have less weapons, classes, and skills to manage.
CCG Fire Emblem game for mobile. I like that idea lol
Said it best I think. This may not mean much to those of us who don't care about mobile, but this means more exposure to the franchise which may mean that the US and EU finally get Seisen no Keifu and other FE titles that we didn't get. We currently don't even have HALF the FE games that were released.
@Onion We didn't get 1 to 6, and then the DS game Monshou no Nazo Hikari to Kage no Eiyuu. 14 games so far (if you count all three of fates as one game) and 7 we didn't get. Arguably Shadow Dragon is a remake of the very first one, so you could sorta say that we did get over half of them. The second DS game is a remake of the second half of the third FE game too (the first half of which is a remake of the very first...) so yeah, we got pretty much half of them, but we're still missing out on a lot.
I figure this definitely won't be a game that won't be for me. Just a little bite-sized experience, to give people a small taste of what FE has to offer. I'm not interested as of yet, but I don't think this means the series is "ruined."
But I am worried about the future of the series. It's great that the series is more accessible with features like Casual mode, but I can't say I'm a fan of some aspects of Fates and Awakening.
I really hope that "accessible" doesn't mean dumbed down. They already put in phoenix mode where your allies come back the next turn. I'm glad more people are playing FE but it saddens me that they are stripping away the core experience of the series just to make it possible :/
This fandom is bad. The game isn't even out yet and they already hate it. People are gatekeeping again, smh. No one one can play a Nintendo game unless you are going to play it in the hardest difficulty and 100 percent it. They are making the mobile games as a kind of advertisement to try the full game on the 3ds and other systems. No need to be trolls under the bridge.
I think it's a great idea to make these kinds of games more accessible, and I never understood why fans would be upset that something they like can now reach a wider fanbase. I haven't played many rpgs, they can seem a bit daunting to the uninitiated, so a mobile app could be a great way to expose people like me to the concept and get a good feel for it. And then go out and buy the retail games.
The point of these mobile games is to attract new people to established franchises. I doubt Nintendo will replace beloved series with strictly mobile games. It creates brand awareness; someone downloads a LoZ app and really enjoys it, then they go out and buy the games.
The more people Nintendo can get to play their games, in any format, the more they increase their revenue, which means they won't go out of business.
I feel like every Fire Emblem game wants to be more accessible. How much more accessible can it be? Is casual mode not enough?
=_= some of you guys are so passive aggressive and negative...
I'm guessing it will use DeNA's style of games like Blood Brothers or GI Joe.
I don't mind this to be honest. They're trying to get more people to notice Fire Emblem. I doubt it'll affect the main series games. Plus with respect to it being easier, it is after all meant to introduce people to the series. Dedicated fans can play Conquest Lunatic Classic for now anyway, and when new Fire Emblem games come out on future consoles I'm sure you'll still be able to crank the difficulty way up should you choose to.
@ProudGrimleal I agree. And I mean with as little as we know about this it may not even be a full game. It could be a shorter game or even something else entirely. Whatever the case, it's meant to draw in new potential fans, not cater to old ones which is what Conquest's job is.
And what's wrong with that? The name of the game is persuading more people to play Nintendo games, after all. Rather than chase the "hardcore" AAA gamer elitists who look down on Nintendo and it's fans, they focus on convincing casual gamers to play serious games. This has always been their strategy.
It's a mobile game- FOR mobile smartphone gamers. What is there to complain about? The games they make for us are on their core platforms and they are excellent. Fire Emblem is as top-shelf as they come. Let them show smart phone gamers some of the appeal and addiction of Fire Emblem to draw them into console gaming with the real thing.
This is a good thing because it will bring more people into the fold which will help strengthen the franchise fanbase which will in turn help strengthen the franchise itself.
And, as a cherry on top we can mess around with some FE on our phones. How cool is that.
@FierceRagnar I'm sorry to say that Sakura Taisen admirably crossed the dating game/VN genre with the T-RPG one.
I like to play SRPGS and whatever Advance Wars is with the stylus, so I welcome the idea of a mobile FE. That "accessible" notion though... didn't Awakening do that for the series already?
Hopefully they mean everything around it like transactions, dailies, and "stickiness" and not mess with the gameplay too much. FE core gameplay is purrfect like a cat's birthday.
So long as it isn't Fire Emblem 15, I don't care. I'll play my legit Fire Emblem titles on a 3DS thank you, but I'll happily engage in a small spin-off title.
@Spiders Do keep in mind that accessible for 3DS owners and accessible for an audience of Angry Birds champions are two very different levels. I personally would probably feel alienated by Awakening on my smartphone.
There's no reason they should screw up a fire emblem game on mobile. The format does not require physical buttons. The two main problems could be overpricing or the usual f2p stuff.
As long as this "game" doesn't affect the main series that comes out on the main hardware. "More accessible," though? Fire Emblem's a strategy game: it's supposed to be challenging to some degree. This is a potentially a slippery slope because while crappy mobile versions of AC and FE could somehow boost the main series games, it could also create a bevy of really bad scenarios for Nintendo fans. Example: If these "games" make Nintendo a decent amount of money, it could entice development to skew more toward mobile iterations rather than future entries on traditional hardware. And Nintendo's bleeped its fans over plenty of times before just to make a quick buck. Le sigh...
@FTPinkRabbit Agreed. I'm hoping it's more like when Dark Souls was dubbed by it's director a more accessible Demon's Souls -which to be fair it is. I have faith in Intellegent Systems and the FE team not watering down the franchise. They're very passionate.
@Spiders Come to think of it, if the mobile game were to work in tandem with Fates, borrowing characters from it so that it wouldn't need to build its own story around some dreaded micro-payment dragon. Just grab a handful of memorable characters and toss them into a smaller story. Or maybe make a clash clone with the option for each player to choose allegiance to either Nohr or Hoshido and then war against other players online (Like Star Wars Commander, but with charm).
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