Today brought a familiar turn of events in the realm of amiibo and anything that's 'limited edition' of late from Nintendo. The best-known toy secret was announced with confirmation of Walmart exclusivity for the Super Mario amiibo - Gold Edition, and then they were gone before they'd really arrived. Pre-orders popped up on Walmart's website and disappeared in no time; you know what, dozens of these pre-orders have since appeared on eBay. As Nintendo Life regular 'Ryno' rather wittily put it - "now they are exclusive to eBay".
Of course that's an old story, so rather than bemoan the fact that, yet again, a limited edition product has sold out in barely a quarter of an hour online, let's consider real solutions that could alleviate the problem. Scalping will never be fully conquered and will be an ever-present for as long as commerce exists, but Nintendo and its retail partners - and they're most assuredly partners in the cases of exclusives - can actually do simple things to not only sell out all stock, but also keep real fans happy in the process.
For starters, let's address something that we think retailers and Nintendo either don't realise or are wilfully ignoring. It's no good announcing something online and then opening pre-orders at a relatively random time, albeit within a ball-park time frame of an announcement. The majority of fans can't spend all of their time randomly refreshing retailer websites to see when pre-orders open, because they have lives, responsibilities and / or better things to do with their time. Some of the most devoted will do that, yes, but it's unsurprising that eBay opportunists are often in there so quickly - there's money to be made, and some do make a living from their eBay stores; amiibo's clearly a useful little earner for some.
This is where Nintendo and businesses fail to understand the difference between online stores and bricks-and-mortar outlets. If you're desperate to get something in a store and it's first-come-first-served you have a date, and you get there for that date, perhaps waiting in line for a few hours outside. That's fair. Popping products up online at fairly arbitrary times doesn't reward that commitment or give a fair chance, as you can't plan for it. We saw the same thing with the Majora's Mask 3D limited edition, with listings just appearing and selling out rapidly. It's physical retail logic loosely applied to online, which is self-evidently daft.
So how to get around it? Well, give consumers warning. It's no good for Nintendo to wring its hands and say that these products are valuable and express 'surprise', but it can actually lead the way with some simple ideas. The obvious solution is to use press releases, tweets, Facebook posts and any other means not just to say a product is coming, but to say that a product's pre-orders will open at a specific time and date; at least 24 hours notice would be enough. Suppliers like Nintendo provide street dates to retailers all the time, so it's not a stretch to agree when product pages open pre-orders.
When demand is high, this is how sensible businesses do things. Music concerts - for example - fall victim to scalpers, of course, but many artists announce dates that ticket sales will open; likewise with any in-demand live event, music or otherwise. You have a time when you know it's happening, you make sure you're online and you give it a go. It's no guaranteed win, but it's better than nothing. Advance warning isn't a difficult concept.
The other key area is some degree of control over quantities of sales, which in fairness to retailers has been a recent trend. Various outlets have started applying a one-per-customer rule, so that's a positive. That needs to be standard for any hardware, limited edition or amiibo that Nintendo knows will sell-out fast.
Retailers also need to step up and stop unscrupulous buyers in stores once the offline-only stock arrives, applying the one-per-customer rule properly. We recently published a feature called Tales From the Front Line of amiibo Collecting, which collated some stories of troubles people had obtaining some of the toys, even when following the rules and doing the right thing. Whether it's stores letting some buy up all stock of rare figures, or even worse allowing staff managers to buy stock without putting it on shelves, there have to be some standards. Nintendo's powerless on this score, but if enough horror stories are shared perhaps some shops will try to avert bad press and deal with it. All purchases are recorded on systems, so - again - it's not that difficult.
This doesn't just apply to Nintendo, of course, but there are reasonable steps that can be taken. Not all of what we've said above is easily done, but some of it is - all it takes is a little extra organisation and genuine desire to cater to fans. It's also easy - and lazy - to say that life just isn't fair, that's capitalism, nothing can be done. There's not always fairness, and these are minor first-world problems, yes, but that doesn't mean that a few small gestures can't be made for fans willing to spend their money on Nintendo merchandise they desperately want.
The only losers would be scalpers.
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the best way nintendo tackles this problem is by offering at a limit of one per customer these exclusive items from store.nintendo.com
you cant stop this trend.but make your exclusive items just that .but to visitors to your site. Theres a huge tidal wave and the only way to combat it ,is to sell on their own terms
I think the best way to stop it would be to just keep making more until they stop selling.
The tactic cannot work when there are say 3,000,000 of them.
I wish nintendo would just have an order system via their website where you have a week to register and pay for figure. 1 per household. Then the total number required for that country gets manufactured in waves. And sent out once done.
Zavvi has just informed me that they have cancelled my meta knight order as supplier cant get anymore. Got others in wave mind. But annoying as pre ordered in December. Now gotta try and find one.
they have to open up a store on their USA site with per-customer limit where the customer has to own a wii u or 3ds and have an account with them and I think platinum club nintendo members of this year should be the ones getting the opportunity to pre-order first. These are the two best options Nintendo needs to implement asap because this is getting too tiring and Im liking them less and less each day for not regulating this craze for the sake of loyal fans. Its also up to us to bring up our discontent because they need to know we're pissed off. This is a good way for Nintendo to step in and show how much their fans mean to them by creating a scalper proof option.
@BLPs thats fine, they should still implement that in usa but create another system in other countries that allows people to somehow show their loyalty to nintendo and get the first pre-orders. at least you guys have a nintendo online store.
I didn't get one of the Gold Mario Amiibo, too bad. Not going to help scalpers and buy one from them because I refuse to pay anything over MSRP for those things.
Screw pre-orders and just sell them at the store that given day. The scalpers can't be at multiple stores all at once. Even if they have a little help the most they get is 5 or so. Pre-order needs to die a quick death.
Oh you can use Dedede and Meta Knight with the all-new Kirby game!?
Oh that oughta be fun!
If you could find them. Why wouldn't they make them more accessible with the newer games that launch alongside them. It's such poor production management.
Don't feed me a load of bull with these directs if you can't get your hands on them.
As long as Nintendo gets paid, they don't care.
The only way for consumers to put pressure on retailers and/or Nintendo to fix this is by refusing to buy/support the artificial limitations on supply that is making these items such hot scalper finds.
How about Nintendo makes amiibo to order? Sure, it'd take longer to make, but if you ordered one, it'd be guaranteed, and the store could (almost) never run out. I'd gladly wait 1 month if it meant I didn't need to pay 50x the price on eBay.
@Inkling they have to order them by the bulk but i agree that they should open orders and if it gets to a certain amount on their site, then reproduce them. nintendo can do a lot here to help its fans and get continued support for a long time to come. when something is difficult to get and somebody steps in to help you, you are pretty grateful for it, even if its the company itself.
@ryno - Nice.
Nice article, I hope someone at Nintendo reads it if for no other reason Nintendo hears more about these problems. I agree with the comments above that Nintendo, to be "fair" could sell "limited or some of the highly desired products" direct from their own site, and have a 1 per address rule.
@ejamer I agree with this, we are shooting ourselves in the foot and i will sell all my doubles and stop trying to buy/collect more amiibo if nintendo doesnt address this before wave 4 releases. im ready to get back into good ol gaming if its not addressed because its starting to feel as frustrating and unappealing as dlc announced half a year before a game releases
Nintendo could implement a plan where they sell limited edition items themselves, not all of them, but many. So for example a gold Mario amiibo would be an option for the future Club Nintendo. Maybe you would have to redeem points to get him for free. Or better yet, instead of spending your points you have to earn 600 points for Platinum and then you get a voucher on your account giving you the ability to purchase "ONE" gold Mario amiibo. Maybe this would also qualify you the ability to purchase a Majora's Mask edition new 3DS XL as well, or maybe you would need more points.
Vouchers would have to be usable by that individual only with your purchase being online to prevent the sale of a voucher on eBay. Obviously though someone could sell their item online, but they wouldn't be able to buy multiples unless they created multiple accounts and bought a lot of Nintendo merchandise.
But then again, retailers should be part of the process and they are the ones that are buying some of these exclusives. Metaknight to Best Buy, Shulk to GameStop, but others like DLC skins for Hyrule Warriors was another retail deal last year. Retailers would need to be included somehow, possibly with direct links for some of these offers for that individual on that site. The Club Nintendo site performed horribly whenever there was an offer going on so upgrading equipment on their end would be very necessary.
@Nico07 points for the ability to preorder would be a terrible idea except for their wallets, thats the opposite of why i support nintendo and am a fan of them so if they take advantage of this by trying to suffocate its fans for money im not worried about stopping support to any greedy company. im not a nintendo slave or sheep, im a fan with limits and there are plenty of other games out there.
That's like 700% profit on one amiibo maybe I drop my job and start working as a full-time scalper!!!!!!!!!1111
Makes me glad I could care less about Amiibo. But I do bfeel sorry for those who do. Back in the day I used to pay big money for PCEngine games. I used to consider myself a collector but not anymore. I just like to get a good game and play. Amiibo collectors are going to have issues. I knew it when Amiibo was announced
Well, the scalpers won't get my money, but I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart anyways so no one was. This game will be available easily within a week, like most Nintendo games, even though I have a pre-order for the game at Amazon. So I'll get a Mario Amiibo ($12.99) and a can of gold semi-gloss Krylon ($3.99) and wah-lah! Limited edition. Or just rip the bloody thing off it's base and say it's "clear". And that, my friends, is how you #$%@ a stranger in the @$$ (scalper).
Or they could just make a remotely reasonable supply of the figures. "Limited Edition" shouldn't mean, "sells out in 15 minutes online." Something can still be limited edition and actually be accessible to everyone for a limited time.
All you need is the amiibo and some 18KT Gold Spray Paint
I'm not really interested in the Gold and Silver Mario, but I'll definitely be interested if they ever do alternate costume amiibo like Villager and Bowser Jr.
This is why Nintendo should just have an online store that can sell these. Eliminates any of these retailer issues.
I agree with this, the set date/time for preorders is a great idea. The only problem with that (which online retailers may or may not be aware of) is that when you do that, your site gets hammered at that one time. I mean, even the random release times caused some sites to struggle to bear the load. But I agree that's about the only option. Some other options would've been to provide a "preorder ticket" via Club Nintendo to allow purchases direct from Nintendo's store. I don't agree the limit should be 1 though, I think 2 is probably a more fair limit as many people (myself included) like to buy one to open and one to keep sealed. I don't think it's the people buying 2 that caused the issue, it's the people buying 20 or more.
Take normal low demand Mario Amiibo.
Coat in gold paint which is actually cheaper than painting it in different colors.
Limited Edition.
Everybody goes crazy.
Best thing for Nintendo to do is reprint the ones that are hard to find like with Marth and some of the others. Best thing for retailers to do is to send a memo out to every store to limit it 1 per customers. This way everyone got a fair shot and if they missed out, they'll be at ease knowing a restock is around the corner.
Scalpers are always tricky to deal with, mainly because they know as much and most times more then the normal collectors. I wouldn't be surprised if a few hundred of them lurk this site for research on demand. Before that whole rarity articles and Nintendo announcement on certain amiibo last December, store were very well stock with WFT, Fox and Villager. Checked back 2 day later after the news and 3 big name stores were sold out of them.
Limited edition should mean they honor all preorders period and afterwards no more will be made. I gave up on Nintendo limited editions. Wanted the MM 3DS and had a horrible experience trying to get one within mins of its announcement. With the current state of affairs I've resigned myself to never getting a limited edition again. You would think as much as Nintendo is hurting in annual sales they would realize they are shooting themselves in the foot here. Plus I;d love for the scalpers to be stuck with their purchase.
I hope Walmart doesn't get enough stock to supply pre-orders. Then, to fulfill orders, scalpers have to buy from other scalpers at an even higher cost. That would be karma indeed.
Go on, Nintendo, cancel the exclusivity deal and sell directly! Prove you're on the side of your customers and are not willing to subsidize the exploitative profiteers. Willing to bet people would pay twice the rrp to get it from you, instead giving money away to scalpers.
I wonder if Walmart will be wise enough to cancel the pre-orders scalpers made and re-open pre-orders with a limit. I think I'll send ol' Wally a tweet/email...
The announcing times for pre-orders both has a pro and a con, in my opinion. On one hand, people can plan when to order, and there's more of a chance towards them being successful. On the other hand, so can scalpers. Also, yeah, stores need to freaking set a limit on the amount you can get, AND keep their workers from taking them home before the customers have a chance. Ugh...if I can't get Ness I'm gonna cry, because you KNOW he's gonna be hard to find. Also, I'm surprised I haven't seen a comment from @MasterBlaster yet, seeing as how he actually has defended scalpers in the forums.
@brutalpanda It's just one method. Obviously only those who purchase several Nintendo items would qualify, but most (not all) fans do this easily. A points based system would eliminate two issues: scalpers of new items and anyone who uses the system and creates many accounts to get around a ONE per account limit. It wouldn't be a perfect solution, but it would prevent someone from buying 50 rare amiibo or creating 20 accounts and selling off 20 new MM 3DS XL systems.
I just threw my idea out there for everyone to discuss. In the real world, Nintendo does what Nintendo does and our input doesn't really seem to matter. But we can always speculate what that better way might be.
@Sakura Haha that would be pretty awesome!
I'm glad they're offering them in-store only here in the US. I remember I went and checked in the afternoon to preorder Rosalina because I missed it the morning of and they were already out. And they weren't coming into the store so I knew I was out of luck. At least with this Gold amiibo I'll be waiting and ready at the store to nab one.
@Z0mgwtfbbqftw
exactly! for all the awesomeness that nintendo is doing with their software across 3ds and wii-u, they want us to be excited for amiibos and enjoy "extra benefits" in their games, but we can't get the amiibos...for a game like smash bros, captain toad, kirby rainbow and the upcoming STEAM and xenoblade, Nintendo is over promising and under-delivering on features of their games. Amiibo is the only slight i have with Nintendo this year....that and not talking more about smt x fire emblem.
I don't own any Amiibo but I really wanted a metal one.
They need to do a Club Nintendo Amiibo as a grand finale for the stars catalogue. There's nothing good to spend my 5900 stars on at present. Nintendo know there are loads of fans missing out on Amiibo and a 4000 point limited edition one would be a fantastic gift to the people that are still supporting them.
My vote would be Raymond Bryce, Captain Rainbow or Doshin the Giant
@Nintenjoe64 A 4000 star amiibo would be perfect, considering the fact 1000 Nintendo Points (about £10/£11) cost the same amount. I'd gladly pay for that.
Can someone explain to me what's wrong with scalping? It's Nintendo's fault for producing such limited stock.
I'm all for having a "REAL" preorder system in place, i.e. opening preorders months ahead of release and them actually producing enough to fulfill those preorders.
And Nintendo needs to allow people to order stuff directly from their website, and some preorders need to locked out to people who don't have a registered a current-gen Nintendo console and/or an active NN account.
Doing that should eliminated a lot of the scalpers.
The solution for the customer is simple, but no one is listening, reading or caring about the customer. Sell prior to manufacture and make to order. Why aren't they doing this? I'd guess they're making more money living off the scalpers. In the end, no company cares about their customers any more, it's all bottom line for shareholders and richie rich,
The only way to fix it, is to show some discipline as consumers and refuse to get sucked into believing a piece of plastic or digital code is somehow a finite resource to be valued.
@warvad I don't believe it is Nintendo's fault. Limited editions are usually not mass produced. Any company worth it's weight produces enough to provide demand. Scalpers come in and cicumvent demand by buying up those items. The only way Nintendo could counter this is producing twice the demand. The fault in actually in those that buy it. I could be wrong.
To put it in perspective, imagine a popular concert. If there's 1000 seats, and scalpers buy 300, the music venue was never going to sell over 1000 tickets. Is it their responsibility to sell 1300?
Well, gold Mario can sit and rot on eBay for all I care. And I would advise my fellow collectors to adopt a similar mentality.
Sign up for a Tenso account and order your Amiibo off Amazon Japan. That's what I'm doing now, and have all of wave 4 pre ordered for about $18 each- and the only reason it was that high was because I was late to the party and Lucina, Robin and Ness were sold out, but available through 3rd party vendor Mine and fulfilled through Amazon. Those cost a little more.
Still, when even at "scalper prices" I can score Amiibos for just $5 more than MSRP here, I'll buy em all day long.
I still think them offering them to Club Nintendo members first was the way to go.
That, in amiibo form, is all I want.
I really should become a scalper... people are turning into complete idiots with amiibos
Step 1. Order 50 dollar Amiibo from scalper.
Step 2. Once it arrives, have a regular version, paint it gold, then destroy it and take pictures of it in the shipping box the Amiibo you ordered came in, then complain to eBay and get a refund.
Step 3. Profit
What if Nintendo secretly IS the scalpers?
@JaxonH wait. Explain how this works. When you sign up for a Tesco account you can order stuff and it will ship from Amazon Japan? Or is that two different methods you use to pre-order? Also, I'm gathering it's too late to pre-order Wave 4? I know I was able to do so with Wario, Charizard and Super Mario Toad from Amazon UK, but no luck on the Lucina, Robin and Ness.
But I'm with ya, I've just started looking overseas, Primarily from Amazon UK. When I thought GameStop screwed me out of my Mega Man and Sonic, I found them across the pond for little more than what it would have cost me for GameStop's value shipping here in the US.
Amiibo great idea , followed yet again by terrible ideas. This is a repetitive trend and they think they are doing well with the hype over people trying to get these, but the reality is that they are upsetting loyal customers. This company is powered by loyal customers. If you can't bring enough for everyone, don't bring it at all. If.your limited on supplies then you need a loyalty program. I know I'm rehashing what everyone else is saying, but I've had it and so far passed pissed that I just don't care anymore. I guess I should give up. Same OLD company, same old ways. Plenty of places around the world need work. Hire, build, supply, satisfy. The majority of us are unsatisfied and have become tireless.
I simply don't understand why it's so difficult for Nintendo to get more stock into stores. Obviously it takes some time to order, produce and ship them, but even taking all that into consideration, it seems bizarre that this amiibo crisis is still going on - I mean it's not like they're made of fairy dust by magical unicorns on the moon or something.
Hey, Nintendo, until you get your inventory production under control...
STOP MAKING EXCLUSIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand everyone's frustraions. Man it can be soooo hard to find some of these Amiibo's. Rosalina was the nightmare for me. That being said, I also can't hate on the people who resell them on eBay or anywhere else. I blame the people who buy them at those prices. The people selling are just trying to make that money.
@JaxonH: What's this Tesco thing you speak of? Help a fellow amiibro out.
@BinaryFragger Like I said, I could be wrong. I just feel that scalpers tip the balance of supply vs demand on a lot of occasions.
I defied the odds! I got the Super Smash Bros. Wii U game + adapter bundle with a Smash Bros Gamecube controller, Mario amiibo and Donkey Kong amiibo all at launch from ShopTo.Net I had it pre ordered.
This is the price I got it for:
Bundle - £46.85 | Smash Bros gamecube controller - £22.85 | Mario amiibo - £10.85 | Donkey Kong amiibo - £10.85 ...so altogether that's £91.40!
And I have not sold any of it on eBay because I actually WANT it
We should totally legalize scalping again. The kind these leeches on society deserve, that is...
Here's what Nintendo needs to do. Announce a new limited amiibo. In actuality produce a ton and let the scalpers buy up a tremendous amount of stock. Just keep on flooding the scalper market until it no longer becomes profitable for them. And Nintendo couldn't be held liable as "limited" could mean 10,000 or 10,000,000.
@Shugo I'm with you, I will NEVER buy an amiibo from a scalper. It's not going to happen.
@123akis
I got the Smash Gamecube bundle pre ordered too, the MH4U limited edition new3DS, the LE Majora's Mask (the game not the system, my system ore order got cancelled) and every single Amiibo except Rosalina (that one I had to buy on eBay).
Not bad all things considered.
@Ryno
https://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/342862-guide-to-buying-from-japan-using-tensocom/
Here's a guide to get you set up if you want. I deleted the other link because I'm not sure they're reputable. But as far as importing from Japan, Tenso I trust.
It's very discouraging to know that you're almost afraid to go to sleep because an amiibo can come and go during that time. I woke up today to see notifications that this was up for sale and that it was gone.
How am I going to get the amiibo I missed without something valuable to wield as a bargaining chip? That fact that I NEED a bargaining chip is worrying in and of itself.
@Moneyjaypr7
If it was a situation where they bought one for a friend, and the friend changed their mind, and THEN they listed it on eBay, I'd say ok. Or if someone was selling out of their personal collection, again I'd say ok. But when large numbers of people buy with sole intent of monopolizing supply in order to resell at a profit... No, I'm definitely not ok with that.
@JaxonH
I definitely can understand and agree with that.
@Moneyjaypr7: Nothing wrong w/ reselling, but not at a ridiculous price point, or higher. Resellers could easily make a fortune off these, selling them at $20/25 for non-exclusive, & $25/30 for exclusives, plus $5 S&H. All things considered, mainly fees to e-Bay/Amazon/etc., it's a profit for the reseller, but no more than, in my example, at maximum $22 extra from the buyer. I personally am ok w/ $20, & $25 for exclusives, plus the $5 S&H for both exclusives, & non. The way these things are going right now are quick-buck items.
@JaxonH: Again, nothing wrong w/ reselling, the problem comes when the seller seriously overcharges. Imo, any price over $30 is ridiculous for any amiibo, save for a platinum Club Nintendo prize amiibo.
@Capt_N
Yes and no. The problem lies with the product not available. Nobody trips out when people buy an iPhone 6+ on release day and sells it for $1000. It's the same concept in that sense. The problem is t the seller, it's the market. When something isn't available or is discontinued, the value of it rises by a lot. So I don't blame the seller, I blame the buyers. I do agree with people that buy multiple of these just to sell is wrong.
@Moneyjaypr7: I respectfully disagree. To me, there's nothing wrong buying something in droves, it's an issue of reselling at horrendous price points. However, I do agree that "limited", & discontinued items climb in value. We can agree to disagree.
@Capt_N
. That's why I love this site. We can disagree without people just going crazy with insults
@Moneyjaypr7: It's nice to carry on conversations civilly.
It would seem that Nintendo's ecosystem is opting for a more stressful and baffling vibe in 2015...
They must enjoy watching their loyal fans pull out their hair at every product launch.
Nintendo do have a production problem, but can you blame them for trying to play it safe by producing less? Better to make less and manage to sell more of the percentage made, than to make loads and end up with a huge surplus of unsold. As for limited editions, they are supposed to be limited, it's part of the whole idea.
The problem is that scalpers are getting their hands on too much of the supply. It sounds like they, initially at least, had no limit on orders of certain, much desired, items, which was just a bad idea.
Another problem is that eBay isn't enforcing their rules properly. Nintendo needs someone to go search eBay, and start reporting those sellers, as the majority of them tend to be breaking rules.
They should also make it an actual policy to not sell to them intending just to resell, and after adding this to their TOS, try matching the emails of eBay sellers found, with the orders made directly from them. It won't catch very many of them, but it might start sending out a message.
But they also need to accept the initial production runs on certain characters were far too small, and accept they need to make a second run of characters like Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, etc.
Such limited stock, exclusives to certain stores, online preorders-These things are problems for average consumers. The longer this goes on, the more evident it is that Nintendo doesn't care. They would rather produce too little than have left over stock, and as long as someone buys it they don't care who it is. They can talk all they like about rewarding customer loyalty, but in the end, those are just hollow words. Time for action, Nintendo! Do SOMETHING to address these problems, or you will lose more customers.
I've given up on preorders myself. I'm sick of getting my hopes up just to be disappointed everytime a new "limited edition" comes out.
@Sir_JBizzle
I would love to start importing from Amazon UK, but I need to find a reliable forwarding service before doing so.
As for Tenso, I posted a link to a guide in an above post. Basically you sign up for an account and verify your identity to comply with Japanese law. They give you a Japanese address which you then use to shop online with. Items shipped to them, and they then forward them to you.
Keep in mind, the service does cost money (they have their shipping rates posted on their website and it all varies by weight and how many packages there are and what type of shipping, etc) but for Amiibos it seems worth it to me, because they're very lightweight which means less shipping cost and they're also very expensive on the secondhand market which makes it worth paying a little more to get them imported. If all 6 Amiibos were one package, I'd be paying around $20 for the service (or $3.33 per Amiibo). But they're not, so I'll probably pay to use their consolidation service ($3 for each package combined with the first, and a $2 fee, so $17 to consolidate). Which means all in all I'm paying about $6 extra per Amiibo to have them imported.
Normally, that would be a no-go but the Amiibo situation is unique in that the supply is very limited, and it actually still costs less buying them this way than if I were to score one on eBay, even for just $25. If you bought your Amiibos at MSRP it would be about $18 total per Amiibo using Tenso, roughly.
@JaxonH I saw the link you posted and signing up as I type this, thanks! You're awesome! I'd rather pay extra to a forwarding service than to be raked over by scalpers and help line their pockets! (okay, I did it once, but the guy needed up breaking even... Lol)
If you're in the US, I'm not sure a forwarding service is needed Amazon UK, I was able to register my US account and order. I got a Sonic and Mega Man ended up being around $20 each. Unless you have your reasons for needing a forwarding service.
@Ryno there's something really disheartening about that IG post... Lol
@Sir_JBizzle
I try adding to my cart from Amazon UK and it's just like Amazon Japan when I check out- it gives me an error message saying "sorry, this item can't be shipped to that address" because I'm in the U.S. Now, certain items I can buy- like, the new3DS added to my cart fine (was just testing) on Amazon UK and I currently have an order in with Amazon JP for the Knights of Iris Fire Emblem art book and pre orders for the official Fire Emblem Path of Radiance collectors soundtrack and Radiant Dawn collector's soundtrack which release March 5. But when it comes to actual video games and Amiibos, it says they can't ship to me in the US.
EDIT: Um, ok, so I tried again and this time it worked for Amiibos??? Wth I tried before and it didn't. Maybe I had selected an Amiibo that was from a 3rd party vendor without noticing? Huh, wow. And all this time... I know Amazon Germany ships to me so I've been watching that site for new listings, guess I'll start watching UK as well!
@JaxonH : I got Ness, Lucina, and Pac preorderd from amazon uk so they better ship to U.S.!
@Ryno
As I just discovered and was telling @Sir_JBizzle in my above post, I must've tested an Amiibo from a 3rd party vendor because I tried again moments ago and it let it through. wish I'd have known beforehand! Oh well, I have all of wave 4 pre ordered so I can't complain.
@Ryno
I kind of hate you right now, but you're still my amiibro! Haha
@Sir_JBizzle: haha.. I think nintendolife needs a stronger amiibro community, we need to help one another get these things.
I'm still not sold on the whole Amiibo concept. I get how staple characters like Mario, Link etc can make sense in games but not the less prolific ones.
The whole thing seems to have been handled badly and limited runs with different retailers is annoying. I have SSB Mario and that's fine for now.
I don't even think the gold amiibo look any good in the first place. I much prefer to see Mario in his natural colors. All this does is promotes scalpers, as this article suggests.
The value of these items on eBay puts me off as a fan
I've got a simple fix. Walmart will undoubtedly sell the Mario Amiibo in the video game isle. They also sell gold spray paint in the hardware isle. Putting 2 and 2 together isn't hard.
@JaxonH https://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/342862-guide-to-buying-from-japan-using-tensocom/
Holy crap that's complicated! One misstep and you could lose all your stuff!
Better stick to GAME.co.uk and amiami.com and other places who specialize in imports. Yes, they will sell out of stock and might be slightly more expensive, but they won't sell out nearly as fast as US preorders and you get peace of mind.
@StarDust4Ever
May seem complicated but it's really not. You sign up and verify identity. Takes 10 minutes. Already had account with Amazon JP. But if not, that's 5 minutes. All you have to do is put the address they give you as your address, that's it. Then when the package arrives at their warehouse, you get an email notification. Sign in, tell em if you want multiple packages consolidated or shipped as is, authorize payment and select one of 4 shipping methods.
Boom. Bam. Done.
The guide just elaborates step by step so there's zero confusion as to what to do. Really you should just intuitively know to put the address they give you in the address line when you order. But for those that don't, there's handy pictures pointing to which parts of the address go in which lines. It's really a fool-proof guide.
Why does everyone think this is a gold Mario amiibo? It's clearly black and blue...
I wish companies cared anything about scalpers compared to pirates. who cares about roms when you have people scooping up ALL of the pre-orders and selling them on ebay of all lousy things and making tons of money doing it. at which point special edition anything is only available at highway robbery prices via ebay jerks. at which point, what's the point of spec ed anything.
and yea, the totally random announcement and release of ltd ed pre-orders makes it impossible to get to it quickly enough.
and a one order per customer limit hurts no one but scalpers. who incidentally, dont care about the merchandise or memorabilia at all and only want the profit.
it would be nice if people who actually want the items could get them.
The only way to stop scalpers high price is to stop buying from them. If people keep to buying them close to the RRP these guy will have lots of stock unsold and will A) not buy so much next time, leaving more for us B) cut the cost of their current stock.
Of cause I don't think this will be a problem too long. I'm fairly confident once the initial smash bros order is filled they'll do more reprints.
It would cool if there was a "demand order" on the website. Where we preorder and once they get enough orders for 1 batch, they produce the figures and dispatch. Since this informs the stock scalpers are only giving money to Nintendo and we still get ours
If Nintendo keeps this stupid politic, Wii U will be my last Nintendo Console.
I have been with nintendo ever since the Game & and Watch (yes I am that Old), and I am feeling kind of stupid for still supporting them because is honestly like they don't care about their real fans.
If they don't care who buys their producto just that they sell all of them, what will happen is that less and less people will continue supporting Nintendo and at some point not even scalpers will buy anything from Nintendo because nobody care.
I am tired of stressing myself for the Amiibos, when Disney Infinity and Skylanders are so easy to buy (by the way I also collect Disney Infinity) and I collect them like buying one or 2 at month at my own speed without worries, with Amiibos I can't do the same.
I have to preorder on 4 or 5 differente places, and even then nothing is for shure, I got 3 preorders canceled even when I made them on december for the last wave.
I think I'm over amiibo now. too much money overall and scalpers.
Sure I'd like a gold Mario and silver too but the same thing is gonna happen here in Europe. So on that note, I'm out!
Until Nintendo fixes the mess that amiibo has become I'm done with them. This whole frenzy over trying to get them has totally poisoned them for me. And after the whole Majora's Mask debacle I'm done with these kinds of things from Nintendo. As much as I would like to have the Fire Emblem characters, I'm not about to reward scalping and I have better things to do that check stores everyday for them. Until Nintendo learns the basic concept that the customers (or fans in this case) come first, I won't be purchasing anymore of them.
@thatguyEZ Nintendo's stupidity regarding amiibo availability has poisoned them for me too, and I'm not even invested into them as I've never purchased a single one (and don't plan to as I don't care about them). Actually, Nintendo's ::cough, Iwata's:: stupidity in recent years has generally turned me off from them. I'll always be dedicated to their handhelds (which is my only investment into the company) as they're the best in the industry but they're too out of touch with reality for me. And their attitude toward the Majora's Mask XL debacle and the ridiculousness that amiibo hunting has become is completely ludicrous. Notwithstanding small things that simply annoy. Example? I traded up from my old XL to a New XL last night with a complete system transfer. My New XL was defective; the retailer I bought it from said they'd be cool with letting me get another one. Problem? System transfers can only be done every 7 days. Now I have to wait till next week for my new system. I understand why Nintendo feels the need to do this but it's too draconian. Why can't you give us a simple login, Nintendo??? AAAARGH!!!! I love you guys but I hate you guys at the same time. I really hate what they've become, especially compared to how they were when I was a kid...
@abe_hikura that's what I meant. That would be the best solution.
@NbaJunkie as a consumer base - we should unite and agree to never buy any of that crap on ebay or amazon - only buy the items in the store - starve the scalpers - don't try to be the first to have it - get it if you can, and if the demand is there - they will make more - I don't understand when people feel like they won't get their new thing - if it is new - they will make more - it is the 20 year old item that you have to snatch up when you get the chance - so my call is for consumers to just stop buying scalped items. I don't want to pay $80 for a copy of Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn that was printed last year, but someone opened up a ton of copies, and started selling them as "used" because of the premium price on auction sites. OK I'm done.
@mjc0961 PRECISELY
@ultraraichu
I am amazed if Fire Emblem Amiibos don't restock - if they can be used in Codename S.T.E.A.M.
I am still amazed about this latest European Amiibowave. Only MegaMan and Sonic available. Seriously.
I preordered a bunch of next one but who knows...
DON'T CARE! I am not jumping through hoops for Nintendo. If I am at a store and I see something I want I will buy it. It is that simple.
Lol I just laugh whenever I see a nintendo supply debacle. Nintendo really wants to follow in segas footsteps. Dang silly clowns run nintendo of America.
I know just making more isn't nearly that simple when you consider the steps involved. Manufacturing processes have improved greatly, but this isn't an on-demand thing. I get that they're playing conservative to get their financial house in order, but that makes the pre-order from them before production that much more logical. They've created a Beanie Babies situation out of amiibo. And their other limited edition stuff, too.
I think the conservatism is a real problem, though. They do need to roll the dice a little bit, as otherwise they're artificially limiting their market size, and I don't know how much the market comes back after excessive aggravation. Especially while they're in the process of losing square footage in retail spaces.
I know manufacturing and forecasting isn't as simple as we all make it sound. But it shouldn't go wrong for this long, and they could stand to communicate a whole lot better.
Are we positive that Walmart sold their entire stock in the Gold Mario Amiibo? Maybe the offered a limited amount for online preorders and kept the rest for in store sales.....not that I'm going to get one of my local store's 3 Gold Mario Amiibos anyways!
Fans should stop being stupid enough to buy from scalpers. Once the scalpers can't make money on the item, they'll stop making it impossible to find them.
If you paid over retail from a reseller for any Amiibo, then you contributed to the problem and helped make them harder to get.
Should Nintendo improve how they approach this? Most likely, yes they should. Should retailers implement a 1-per-customer rule? Maybe. But at the end of the day, this is capitalism, and it's driven by you Mr. End Consumer. If you're willing to pay ridiculous prices for Amiibos, then you have created a market for that to happen. Almost no Amiibo was difficult to find during those first three weeks--my girlfriend had no problem grabbing the Wii Fit Trainer for me. But the second one became harder to find, Nintendo fans started paying absurd prices and made themselves easier victims of the scalpers.
I'm not one for blaming victims, but in this case, the "victims" helped create this environment. Every single person that paid over retail, from a reseller, contributed to this problem.
Trust me, giving fans warning and time doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Actually, posting at random times is better because you might be able to sneak a pre-order in. I collect Macross toys and we all know precisely what time pre-orders for these things go up in Japan. A quarter hour sell out would be a God Send. You might miss out on the whole allotment in between refreshing your screen, things go that fast.
Providing a date means EVERYBODY will log into the exact same servers at the exact same time. Shopping carts will hang at certain screens and very likely a good number of people will be "cart-jacked" mid-purchase without some fancy server-side accommodations. No, that really won't work.
What they should do is offer an opportunity for everyone between a certain window of time to pre-order and manufacture as many as are pre-ordered within that window. Sure, some will still be scalped, but the people who really want them can get them and it will only be stragglers who end up eating it on ebay.
It's worth acknowledging Nintendo providing more of the Majora's Mask New 3DS's through their website after the first batch sold out instantly, even if it was on the provision that they wouldn't actually be available until March and one per customer. I think it'd be an idea to approach more things like that; keep releasing smaller batches periodically after the initial launch, it'd hopefully mean that the dedicated fans get one a bit later down the line after the people on there for the initial hype have moved on.
Was the Smash Bros for WiiU with the adapter hard to get? I ask cause gamestop messed up my preorder and I went and got on off amazon launch day at the normal price.
@freaksloan
Dude, I am with you 100%. I don't care which company or product it is (maybe not entirely product).
If a company can't be bother to get a product that is basically a freakin' basic plastic toy with basic technology to markets - even after so much time, they don't deserve getting my hard earned cash. They are not making enough effort to warrant that.
I understand the initial "out of stock" rubbish to garner hype but this is becoming ridiculous.
People who complain about scalpers fail at life.
You have all the same opportunities the scalpers have. Get out there and buy the damn thing before everyone else does. That is what scalpers do. They go through the trouble of finding the product before everyone else (sometimes driving as far as a hundred miles to pick it up) then sell it to you at a premium that you SHOULD pay as a service for their effort.
You have all the same abilities as them. If scalpers are such a 'big problem' just stop buying the damn things from the scalpers.
Saw a sonic the hedgehog at gamestop today. First rare amiibo I've seen in a store, also toon link was there. Im not a sonic fan so I left it, but it seems like the stock is finally catching up a little bit.
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