It says much for how events have unfolded in recent months that this writer's first thought upon the reveal of a New Nintendo 3DS XL limited edition - with a design from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D - wasn't "oh my that's gorgeous", but rather "fingers crossed there's enough stock". In the Holiday season Nintendo failed to meet demand for the GameCube Controller Adapter for Wii U and a host of amiibo figures, while early limited editions of the aforementioned Majora's Mask 3D also disappeared within hours, particularly in the US.
Nintendo is guilty, undeniably, of simply not producing enough stock; it shouldn't be the case that anticipated items sell out within an hour, for that's the road to absolute madness in an age where internet shopping is 24 hours a day. So, Nintendo's struggled to deliver stock, but in turn that's brought out opportunists that buy up inventory and flog it on eBay at a profit; a less polite term is to call them scalpers.
Having heard that the problem was rife with the Majora's Mask New Nintendo 3DS XL in the US, particularly, we headed to eBay. A fairly generic search of "Majora's Mask 3DS" returned hundreds of results; there are actually hundreds of these systems' pre-orders for sale, and also some of the limited edition software bundles. We're not even talking about the systems themselves - as they're not out until 13th February - but pre-orders. In essence, these sellers are flogging goods they don't even own yet, especially if retailers have pre-order stock that falls through.
It's crazy, with the majority of entries selling comfortably above the recommended price of $199.99. Many are selling for around $300, some are asking for as much as $500, netting tidy profits in the process.
Some may say "that's capitalism", or an "entrepreneurial spirit"; for me - breaking into first-person as this irritates me so much - it's selfish, greedy cynicism. Products designed - by their very concept of being special editions - for dedicated fans are snapped up by many with no interest in them, all in the name of charging those that are desperate. Nintendo gets its cut of the retail sales, but these private sales are a Wild West and are all about exploiting fans for personal gain.
Nintendo is powerless to stop this, though it has contributed to the increasing trend of opportunistic eBay sales by woefully understocking some of its most desired products. It will continue, but that doesn't mean we need to like it.
Let us know what you think of this, and the perception that this is happening more and more with highly desired but rare Nintendo games, systems and accessories.
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Comments (161)
At the same time they wouldn't be limited edition now would they? The whole point is to generate a demand so the systems don't simply sit on a store shelf unsold. If there is plenty of stock chances are the sales would be lower than if there wasn't enough stock, as people would just wait for sales or feel there's no urgency and not buy it at all.
Buncha Fartfaces.....must be the work of Gannon........
People don't get that you need to sit on these kinds of consoles for years for them to even be worth a bit.
Nintendo could quite easily remedy this by simply producing more stock. That way, more fans will be able to buy the items they want, and scalpers won't be able to exploit the situation because enough stock will be readily available anyway.
This is the New 3DS I was hoping to have, but I never give in to tomfoolery like this. Oh well, at least the one in getting comes with a game.
It's ridiculous. I've tried to buy both the New 3DS Majora's Mask and the Bundle with Skull Kid. Both times I've been to 3 or 4 retailers websites within an hour of the announcement and both times I've come up empty handed.
Absolutely pathetic. I wanted one of these but they sold out before I could even pre-order. Screw you scalpers.
Well that was quick.
"that's capitalism"
It's the people that buy it at that prices fault.
I got my gold Zelda 3DS XL months later online, and it was from Walmart. So wont this New 3DS be available later on as well? I want it but don't have money to spend on consoles.
I also tried to preorder the Majora's Mask limited edition with Skull Kid figurine, but i was told I'd have to pay in full in order to preorder it at Gamestop. I only had $20 on me so I missed out.
So glad I managed to pre-order one for me and one for my husband XD
Super excited that they come with the game, skull kid figure and charger too
It's disappointing but unfortunately stuff like this will continue to happen as long as demand exceeds supply in numbers like this.
Nintendo needs to hire people who figure out who posts these LEs on ebay, and then never send them the product.
And also shame on the people are buying them to a huge mark up, which only feeds the problem.
I got my monster hunter 3DS XL LE, but if it had sold out, no way am I paying extra for a coat of paint you could pay someone less to make something even cooler and more unique to do a plain 3DS.
Scalpers need to be scalped for crimes committed against the hobby. Pun intended!
I may get some gold vinyl sheets and cut my own triforce applique sticker to apply on the cover of the black edition. It will look cool and won't permanently modify or damage the console.
I wish Ebay and similar sites would ban the selling of "pre-orders" - that would help a little.
Also, a little more stock would help. But ultimately, I do blame the scalpers foremost for being so soulless. It really is despicable for the system to sell out in a matter of an hour, and for literally HUNDREDS of ebay listings to appear within the next hour.
I just wish it was illegal.
EDIT: And I wanted to add that if every scalper bought ONE system it would bother me a lot less, but I see people on CAG and SlickDeals buying them by the ten. Absolutely disgusting, they are creating false demand and it sucks.
The only way it stops is if people stop buying them from the scalpers
Got my order in earlier, but I'm surprised it went out of stock just an hour after I did on the Euro store.
As for stock, I honestly think its more a scalper trend that's been going on since the Amiibos were released. If it has Nintendo and limited in the title, there's money to be had.
I got one from Best Buy 4 minutes before it was gone. I am the luckiest man alive.
It's a real shame that Nintendo doesn't seem to stock as much as they should for certain items in these past few months as it just encourages people to take the opportunity to leech off the fans and in the end, make them feel very discouraged.
And I don't care if anyone says 'They're not forcing you to buy it from them' or 'They're not hurting anyone', it actually does metaphorically hurt those who would love to own a limited edition system as they have a passion for that franchise/company, but don't have the money to buy it for three or four times the asking price, just because they weren't lucky enough to pre-order it in those few hours it was available for the retail price.
The sad reality, is that stuff like this will continue to happen for as long as the demand exceeds the supply.
I'm pretty shocked it sold out on the UK store day one... I was giving it consideration assuming they would have it for sale a couple days, but alas
@drewb0203 Wow. I envy you.
This is why scalpers should be deported to Antartica.
All this scalping has really turned me off to MM's re-release.
Nintendo can control this. Club Nintendo is a perfect outlet to sell these limited editions, collector's editions, etc.
1.) Consumer has to create a Club Nintendo account
2.) Consumer must register at least 1 game (this should cut down on the scalpers to some degree as most I would assume don't even care for Nintendo products)
3.) Limit purchase of limited edition products at 1 or 2 per account holder.
4.) The "limited" about the item would pertain to a time frame as to when it can be purchased - not some unknown stock amount that could run out in hours.
Is something like this too hard to put in place? Seriously, I could be off base here, but what's wrong with this system? Or something like it?
@Superstick Can't tell if sarcastic or not....
The only solution is to not reward the scalpers.
But that's not going to happen, unfortunately.
"Nintendo is powerless to stop this" - They are not they can make as many as they want to. Problem is they prefer this situation to potentially Amazon getting too many and selling them at £10-£20 less for a day.
@drewb0203 No I'm serious. You're extremely lucky. It wasn't even available when I checked.
@Spartacus3765 I completely agree. That's exactly the way it should work.
@Superstick
I too was lucky enough to snag one yesterday - but I'm more partial to wanting the Limited Edition that comes with the Skull Kid figure. Felt that if I at least pre-order this guy, it could be a good bargaining chip at the very least with some scumbag scalper on ebay.
Scalpers won't see a penny from me. If I hadn't managed to purchase my Majora's Mask New 3DS earlier I'd of just gone without, albeit reluctantly.
I could of made a nice profit on a couple of Marth amiibos I had going spare (I'm fussy about paint jobs) but I just sent them back for a £10 refund each. I was sad to see so many people snapping up overpriced amiibo just before Xmas, a bit of savvy shopping could've saved them a lot of money.
It's strange to think that only a year or so ago I went into an EB Games in New Zealand and picked up the gold Link Between Worlds 3DS XL without even pre-ordering. I'm amazed I was able to do that. Can't see anyone finding a MM 3DS XL up from a store on release day.
@Spartacus3765 makes sense. Especially considering Nintendo have given out rewards via this method in the past. Even the ambassador 3DS systems were offered up in a more controlled manner.
@Spartacus3765 I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo were to consider implementing a system to control the quantity of consoles/amiibo being purchased by one consumer after their experience with Amiibo, Gamecube Adapter stock and this.
I preordered one online from best buy and was looking out for it all day i am glad I got one. But i think people are being a little harsh, i dont think all those ebay listings are people who bought it with the intent to sell it. I know if I got offered $300 for my preorder i would probably sell it too. But no one is buying the systems from ebay, the scalpers are failing...
Not surprised by this, but disappointed in humanity. Always needing to take advantage to the detriment of others, then justifying with some spurious rhetoric about freedoms and seizing opportunities. It is exploiting the situation to pre-order limited stock with the sole intention of reselling immediately at an inflated price. That's Capitalism? Sounds more like profiteering to me.
The scalpers strike again! (I really wanted a Majora's Mask n3dsxl. Since NA is not getting the removable face plate models, they should AT LEAST stock enough of the special variant xls. Its as if the scalpers are saying "Have a rotten day!" to me. What rotten luck!)
@Spartacus3765 I know right! I wish Nintendo was still a toy company in a way. One branch makes the games, the other makes toys (other than pokemon ones!) based on the games. The real draw of LoZ:MMce (for me at least) is the Skull Kid figure. I've played Majora's Mask several times to completion, so i am familiar with the software. Being denied the figure by rotten luck (and Nintendo scalpers) hurts so much. If Nintendo released toys and figures from their games (other than pokemon and amiibo, which are elusive in their own right), I wouldn't be so annoyed.
If the scalpers didn't make a cent, I would be so happy.
@omalleycat215 its crazy that currently on ebay the collectors edition of the game is selling for more than the original N64 game CIB. These scalpers raise the price way to high for anyone to bite.
This angers me for the fact I HAD NO CHANCE- I was at work- being in construction means I have no computer always refreshing with pre sale info- I learned my lesson with the Amiibo shortage and just pre ordered the ones I wanted- still missed out on Rosalina, so I may import her from Japan like I had to do with Marth.......I'm keeping my finger crossed for the Majora XL- I own the Zelda wiimote, Zelda WiiU and Zelda Link Between 3DSXL- I really want it for my personal gaming collection.
@Falchion Someone, somewhere out there will bite unfortunately. Still have the LoZ:MM n64 cartridge after all these years, and its definitely not worth whatever ebay would charge for it.
People keep pointing their fingers to those scalpers and Nintendo. What about yourself? If people stop buying stuff from scalpers, they will definitely stop doing it. The problem is people can't stop themselves from buying from scalpers. It is what it is folks.
I dunno if it'll help, but I just wrote a complaint to Nintendo on this bs scalping going on on eBay. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if there's legal precedent here, but it's illegal to scalp tickets to shows, sports, etc.... I honestly don't see how this is any different. Either way, letters from fans/consumers couldn't hurt.
@Hy8ogen I don't think you can blame people who buy from scalpers. If somebody REALLY wants to have something like this, and it's the ONLY way to obtain one of these anymore, then of course they're going to HAVE to buy from these scalpers.
So yeah, it is what it is, and it -is- the fault of those scalpers. And partly Nintendo's for making this one so awfully limited. And I think something needs to be done to stop this kind of stuff from happening.
I managed to preorder one at best buy...I had another one preordered but I cancelled it so I can give the chance to a real Nintendo fan to buy it but it probably went to some douche bag scalper...my bad people
I was fortunate to check Best Buy's webste at the right time. I'm hoping the preorder stands. I also hope that those who want one will eventually get one
I don't agree with scalpers at all but I'm a fan and I stayed up all night waiting for this release and eventually got one. I totally disagree with the ridiculous prices people are asking for on Ebay, but at the same time, if people are willing to pay then more fool them. Companies now have caught on and now there are no more than 6 purchases per customer in some UK stores. Which Is fair. It should be 1 pre order per customer...Online!
If you want more, go In store. That's fair I think.
Defect New 3DS XL MM Edition with 3 cameras now for $55000!
I barely was able to get mine from Best Buy, I was watching it like a hawk for me and my friend, constantly refreshing the page and everything. I don't think I should have to do something that tedious to get something like that, good thing I'm used to it thanks to Black Friday.
Yeah, I think this problem is getting increasingly worse. Not sure how much Nintendo would care to stop this since they are still selling everything they produce. But I'm not sure why they're not capitalizing on the popularity of these versions and producing more to sell.
I think it would help a lot if these online vendors would limit 1 per customer. Or even better would be if Nintendo would offer Platinum Club Nintendo members the opportunity to buy one first.
I was lucky enough to grab one from GameStop! Im sorry for anyone who did miss out on it.
@reanimator136 I've long thought Nintendo should offer first dibs of stuff to Club Nintendo members. Demos, Beta tests, and pre-orders.
Scalpers annoy me so much because they're parasites that do absolutely nothing of any value for society. I don't care how much I want something, I'm never going to pay someone to rob me of my money, as it will only give them incentive to do it again.
Yep it's a shame that the real fans miss out because someone just wants to make some quick cash it's the same situation with ticket touts and I grow tired of it.
At least I am going to Symphony of the Goddesses
Very sad to see genuine fans miss out to opportunists but there is not much that can be done.
Maybe Nintendo could spread out the stock by running a lottery and even putting some on club Nintendo. This would at least give people a faint glimmer of hope.
Really I do hate these kind of people but in all honesty the buyer is more to blame. Yes it's a beautiful piece of hardware but how can people pay 500 bucks?!
That's the one (and the MH4 one, that's the one I would have bought) they should have offered as exclusive (or as introductory offer, at least) to CN members. I wouldn't have passed that up.
Yes, it sucks.
No, it should not be illegal.
No, Nintendo should not "stop" them.
Yes, it's capitalism.
And again, yes it sucks.
EB Games Australia did it's bit by limiting pre orders to one per customer. Managed to snag one when I woke up before work. After work it was sold out! Been really lucky with these. I also snagged the special edition before it sold out.
@ReigningSemtex: Out of curiosity, which showing are you going to for the Symphony tour?
I'm also disappointed. Tried to pre-order. Completely sold out in everywhere in one day. Really disappointed with Nintendo. I currently have the Link Between Worlds 3DS. I really wanted to to get the New 3DS. But really didn't want to give up the gold look of my 3DS. Was so happy at first when I saw this version of the New 3DS. I agree that pre-orders like this should be limited to one per customer. But Nintendo should have more stock to begin with.
Wow! Just checked Amazon.ca and see someone is trying to sell the system for $800. People really are jerks.
I was very lucky with the figurine and N3DS. Best Buy had a second stock and I was able to score a figurine with game. The N3DS I was lucky again through Best Buy looking at the site at just the right moment and got one. Now hopefully nothing gets canceled on me.
Why do Nintendolife's writers get so angry whenever a the price of a product that has high demand and no supply goes up in price?
These articles are hilariously naive.
@Spartacus3765 - I have been barking this same idea to Nintendo on the phone, in emails... Etc. Glad to know other true loyal and faithful fans see common sense in how to sell limited edition products. For the loyal nintendo fans who have registered and "earned" platinum status and done the reviews and stuck it out with nintendo... Why not offer is an opportunity to pre order directly through Nintendo!!
I was going to get this, but the red one looked better. I regret nothing.
I am really concerned with this recent trend. It happened to me with the Target exclusive Rosalina amiibo, the Limited Edition 3DS Majora's Mask game with Skull Kid figure and now the New 3DS XL. Nintendo should do more of what they did with the ambassador edition presale of the New 3DS in Europe. Programs like that, tied to Club Nintendo accounts where people would have to have a large number of games registered, could help to curb some of this and make sure the most loyal customers at least could have a chance to get some of these limited release items. As we see with the eBay sales, a large amount of the actual sales aren't going to people actually interested in playing these systems but are just trying to make a quick buck. I called Nintendo and Best Buy today to voice my concern over this issue.
I know scalpers have always been a thing, but is it just me, or have they gotten extremely prevalent ever since the first wave of amiibo started to die off? Because this is flipping ridiculous
All we can do is not buy them. Scalpers wouldn't do this if people didn't end up shelling out stupid amounts of money.
@zionich
"It's the people that buy it at that prices fault."
Exactly this. Just don't buy it from them at a ridiculous price. This is not a necessity. It's a luxury. I want to own one too but of it's being resold on a higher price, I'll just try my luck on getting one on a regular price or just pass.
@Spartacus3765 - Ninty for life!!! I'm with ya on that.
Shoot me an email ([email protected]) may have a solution for you. I've emailed NOA multiple times today and called them saying the same thing about allowing club account holders better opportunities for pre orders directly through Nintendo. I'm certain thousands of us feel the same way. But if we can get enough complaints into their system on this, it may prove beneficial for future opportunities. Don't think it will change chances of getting the system for me. I've gotten every single zelda system they've released... But I ain't spending triple for this when a nice gold tri force sticker on the black would look nice. Especially being how "dark" the game truly is.
Daggummit Nintendo...
Why not offered them to Club Nintendo members first, very much like the Ambassador 3DS's.
God I can't stand this, I feel like buying one and filing a chargeback and mailing back a brick but that'd make me just as crummy as them.
@Hy8ogen But you see that's the problem. If Nintendo would have made more of these then people wouldnt have to go and buy them from scalpers if they really wanted them. It will discourage the scalpers from buying them thus realize they lost a ton of money buy doing so. But of course Nintendo does not think about these kinds of situations.
Thankfully I've always had my eye on the Monster Hunter special edition. I would not want to have to bear with this mess.
Here's an idea: Don't make these so limited and NOT store exclusive. Problem solved.
Hope nintendo are reading these comments....
Some scalpers are just crazy with this stuff. Thankfully I managed to get 13 preorders in before all the scalpers bought all the inventory. Onto ebay I go
scalpers really piss me off. I'm just glad it's not as bad in Australia. At least with the majoras mask 3DS XL the retailers that were taking pre orders online had a limit of one per customer. Which at the very least slows down scalpers. It's thanks to this that I was able to snag one before they completely sold out. There was at least a 24 hour window of availability rather than the 24 minute window there seemed to be for our american counter parts.
The limitedness is fine in my opinion, if it wasn't so limited I wouldn't be as interested. They should put steps to limit them to one per customer though and cross-check addresses so people can't use multiple store accounts.
I like the idea of early access to some people too, make sure people have a NID with a certain amount of purchase or something and give them a day head start.
Anyway, the Majora's Mask 3ds is ugly as hell. I was sat at my computer when I got the email but the MM edition was always going to be my choice.
"a less polite term is to call them scalpers".
I would say this is a polite term, a less polite term is to call them filthy greedy scumbags.
@Abeltenchi ..Yeah ,I'm fuming...scrolled down on eStore to find both editions SOLD OUT. and that was early this morning. Pre ordered MM to get Skull Kid....Fuming Nintendo!
@LordMolecule In total agreement with you. My rage at seeing the SOLD OUT sign knows no boundaries.
Got one!!! MH special edition. Hope there are no problems with the order, but checkout ok, payment ok...Get In There!
Bunch of opportunistic perverters of capitalism...No, this isn't capitalism. It's blatant profiteering. I refuse to give in to them. I'll wait for a year - two if I have to - to get my hands on the MMN3DS. I'll even buy it second-hand and used if Nintendo doesn't want me to buy it from them directly. The only ones profiting from taking advantage of stocks like this are the profiteers, not Nintendo. If my money doesn't go to Nintendo, it may as well just sit in my bank account...or at least go to some good pasta and ramen.
Ebay should really ban people who do this. They clearly don't have the device, so they should not be selling it.
At least with the European version, they waited two days before putting it up on websites / allow pre-orders from shop. So my brother was able to get one.
@ggnorekthx That something they must do something about.These people are allowed to preorder tens of copies thats why they sold out so quick and most of us that really want to buy it dont have the chance.
It is very similar to what happens with concert tickets for big bands. It was know that a lot were being resold later so now they do not allow to buy more than 4 tickets at once.
They shouldn't allow people to buy more than 1 or 2 copies
I tried reserving one, and in the end I managed to reserve from 2 stores! The thought of simply buying two and selling the other for profit crossed my mind, but then I thought the same track of thought as the article. I wouldnt want to be that guy, so I signed off the other reservation.
@TingLz I am going to Wembley arena showing on the 17th April
I pre-ordered the Majora's Mask edition yesterday, and when I went online today, the store had increased their price. It doesn't affect me, as I will get it for the price they had when I pre-ordered, but it's a little disgusting. They increased the price, just because other stores are sold out and they can increase the price, because people will pay anyway.
@Spartacus3765 What about countries where is no club nintendo? But anyway where i bought the system there whas a limit 1/per customer which is great.
If only there was a way to band together with others across all countries to not buy these systems on Ebay and other such sites from these people. For hundreds upon hundreds to suddenly flood Ebay over the course of a day is ludicrous, and to not give these stinkers any money would definitely make them consider canceling their preorders.
I was hoping to get the MM N3DSXL, but I was stupid enough to wait a couple of minutes after the stream finished to idly chat with a friend about what was revealed. Had I known that I would not be able to purchase them in 10 minutes, my priorities would have been very different.
I have a Monster Hunter Console reserved as a backup, but I really hope they put more of these out in the wild. Would be a shame for everyone who wanted to pay only retail for them.
@Spartacus3765 Well, not all Nintendo fans can be members of Club Nintendo, the entire Scandinavia and maybe some other contries in Europe are not able to register as members.
In the United States, diehard Nintendo fans belong to Club Nintendo - and Nintendo can make special edition systems available to dedicated fans that way. Nintendo is not "powerless". This is an intentional choice made by Nintendo.
"Opportunists hog stock once again"
That sad truth of modern day "gamers" it seems.
Capitalism baby!
"...- it's selfish, greedy cynicism." Isn't that kinda what our economy, modern capitalism boils down to?
Nintendo could have done something to try and prevent this... It all started with their mishandling and short stock supplies of Amiibo and the GameCube adaptor. The frenzy and wild demand drew the scalpers' attention to Nintendo in spades and haven't let up since. While it may be tough to stop it now, they are guilty in my mind of setting it off. I saw a guy on eBay sell eight copies of MM Collector's Edition game for $134 each... that's like 150% of pure profit.
Nintendo and us fans aren't the only victims of scalpers. Do a search for that PlayStation 4 Anniversary Edition console and you'll see them going for over a thousand... And a share of them were in fact distributed by Sony in an invitation only promotion. They are everywhere and until stock is increased and stay increased on stuff like Amiibo, this will be a problem that we deal with for a long time to come.
This is Nintendo of America's fault, plain and simple. If they're hoping to increase interest in their product, that's backfiring, as it's just pissing people off that there's not enough stock being produced to meet the demand.
Sad to see this happen - Happy Console Gamer covered this in his latest video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZuO9GBIQA (Killing The Hobby)
I also need to mention that we don't even know how many of these special editions were made. Most users here just assume it was a small number.
@Phle @Spartacus3765
You can add all of Latin America to that list.
Besides, that would only make the scalpers join Club Nintendo and still sell their systems and other prizes at insane prices without Nintendo having any control. It is not like they will check each and every serial number to see what members put their systems on ebay.
Sick of these people - I wanted the limited Edition 3DS XL Fire Emblem model when it launched in europe but didn't have the funds, and when I did get the money it was only available from select independent retailers for vastly inflated sums! I decided to secure my Majora's Mask New 3DS XL using my credit card this time round and I couldn't be happier! I really feel for those that can't get it though.
Funny how crazy people get over a bit of paint on a console. I am happy with my Fire Emblem xl and will probably never get a New 3Ds because the differences don't matter to me. Thanks for all the laughs people.
@andyg1971 You say that though how would you have felt if this scalping was largely present 2 years ago and hence you couldn't get the Fire Emblem XL you currently own.
@Grumblevolcano I never pre ordered my xl, I walked into a Game store and noticed they had dropped the price from £200 to £160 about a month after release of the Fire Emblem special edition and decided to buy it there and then because I like the FE games. I wasn't bothered about the FE xl but realised it was a good deal for £160 with the game included. Things are getting ridiculous over limited or special edition consoles and games and I am not falling for it.
@ggnorekthx Actually according to official eBay rules you can't sell a product that will not ship out to you within 30 days of the purchase. Doing so SHOULD lead to deletion of the account, but it seems eBay is doing nothing to enforce this. So at least for the next few days these scalpers are breaking the rules, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
Erk, that's awful… When I checked last night, the Majora's Mask Edition New 3DS XL was indeed sold out on the UK Nintendo Store, as was the Monster Hunter one…
However they also had awesome deals that had the normal or special edition of the game, bundled with the charger, statue and even a MM N3DSXL Case!
And since I already had eye on the special edition, I cancelled my old preorder and snapped up that deal instead!
Nintendo is not powerless to stop this. They hold the reigns to supply. Producing more of the adapters, Amiibo, and limited edition consoles increases the supply to meet the demand and completely devalues the stockpile that these scalpers accumulate. The scalpers are only getting worse because Nintendo keeps showing that, despite demand, they simply won't provide more supply (in the case of Amiibo) or can't keep up with demand (in the case of the adapters).
@Wischmeyers Doesn't that mean they'd be Just in date now, if they send it the very moment they receive it? Not defending it, just saying.
But the truth is people are always selling item preorders on eBay, I once brought the Masterpiece Megatron on eBay, only to discover it was a preorder that left me hanging on for Months for my item. I did eventually receive it, but yeah, watch out for people who do this…
The Problem is noone has a New 3DS. Usually when a special edition comes along the console has been out for at least a year so a lot of people already have one. Now we have the unique situation where the first New 3DS people can actually buy are special edition ones so of course there is ridiculous demand. Unless they make all the New 3DSs special editions people are gonna miss out. I might be looking at this a bit nicer then others though cause I managed to snag a preorder for the MM one
@paleboyjack Is it the North America Bundle?
How can Nintendo not understand the demand for its products. Surely they must realise that it's the dedicated fan base keeping them going because take Nintendo IP's out of the equation a Nintendo would have died out years ago. I get that they don't want to flood the market, but a Zelda Limited edition of a console upgrade was always going to sell well. I guess if Nintendo don't want my money... nobody's having. Will not fund this kind of gamer exploitation.
Honestly, what Nintendo and many other places should do it a preorder deal regarding units preordered. Nintendo says, "If we get 10,000 preorders for this, we will make that 10,000 and send them out to the preorders." One would assume the number they would pick would bring them a profit after manufacturing and shipping. So they bring this 3ds to preorder status, and they give it 2 months to build up as many preorders as it can get, and then if enough get preordered, they fulfill that order, make some extra's for stores, and call it a day.
It's really disappointing as MM is my favorite Zelda game. But I'm not gonna pay ridiculous prices to a scalper. I'm just holding out hope that, like the Marth amiibos, Nintendo will put out another batch for actual fans. These scalpers are disgusting and tick me off beyond belief.
@Falchion lol I think you're putting too much faith in humanity. People don't order 10+ systems just because and then see how much they're selling for and then decide to put them on eBay. People buy these things with the intent of taking advantage of fans. But I'm sure you might be right about a handful of cases.
The day before it went on sale in the UK, I read somewhere that it had gone out of stock in NA within 15 MINUTES~! Because of that I felt really disheartened and never expected to get one~... I'm so happy I actually managed to pre-order one~! ^///w///^ I really hope it gets re-stocked for everyone else soon, or at the very least put some sort of restriction on the number that people can buy at once, or maybe if they see pre-orders up for sale find out who it is and force it to be cancelled and ban them for at least a while; this can't be allowed to continue~! Q~Q
There was once a time, when I was at gamestop with my brother, and brother in law. We were waiting in line to get the new Pikachu 3DS XL, which this particular store had only 2 of total. I wasn't going to buy one, but my older brother was going to buy one and use it! while my Brother in law, just wanted one to scalp.
Anyway, right when we made the purchases, a young girl ran in to the store at full speed! asking if there were anymore left in stock. Obviously she wanted one to USE and enjoy! But, alas, my brother in law (as much as I love him to pieces) was unwilling to let her buy the system (granted, she didn't ask).
My blood brother still has his, and uses it on a daily basis! and my brother in law later came across 3 more of the systems, which he then sold for a great deal of money. (not to mention, 12 of the Fire Emblem awakening versions!)
While I don't believe that there is anything wrong with making a profit, I strongly disagree with scalping items like this that so many other fans want to use for it's intended purpose!
That is why I have decided not to buy something like this, unless I am planning on using it, and loving it, Which is why I bought the Majoras Mask N3DSXL.
Thank you for reading my story.
@sinalefa, @Phle, @Taikasieni,
This only furthers the point of needing to do away with region-locking, and a universal/global account system. This shouldn't be impossible in this day and age. Also, I never meant it to completely eliminate the scalping problem. Sure, there will be those who will buy Nintendo stuff, register them through CN and still re-sell. But the point being is it would at least slow down the rate of which this is currently happening where Amazon just lets 3 be sold per email address or some stupid thing like that. Something created through Nintendo's own website account system should be heavily considered based on what's been happening these last couple of months. Cuz if the supply keeps coming in like this, it's only going to get worse before it gets better.
@PrincessSakura
REALLY? Fifteen minutes!? I knew I was lucky to get one, but how on earth could that even be possible? Well, Let's just hope BestBuy doesn't poop out like it did with my copy of smash WiiU and my amiibos! I would've gotten it from Gamestop, but they were sold out before I had a chance to get one there.
@JellySplat I know, it's crazy~! Q~Q Here's the article~!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/01/14/majoras-mask-limited-edition-3ds-sells-out-in-15-minutes/
@drewb0203
My brother and I literally bought the last two on the entire store! As soon as we finished our checkout, we checked the website again, and it was out of stock!
@Spartacus3765
And then the countries that DON'T HAVe Nintendo Club (like the Nordic Countries) are left out.
I'd never dare to buy preorder from eBay or so. And I blame those who go to buy from them.
I checked some Finnish (and Nordic websites). CDON doesn't take preorders anymore, Verkkokauppa is sold out, VPD and Coolshop has preorder still available - I guess.
The problem is that I don't know how fast they update their stock.
Of course US is more problematic since you seem to have lots of these "only at" thingies going on.
Heck, I ordered LBW special edition from Game.co. uk, got everything until day when it should have shipped they said they don't have it. Sorry (tho I got the poster )
I am mostly just thinking should I go with XL MM edition or just to buy normal 3DS with MM covers (have FIre Emblem XL atm)
@Finntendo
Well, I think CN needs to be implemented wherever their products are sold. Just seems fair that anyone who has access to Nintendo products should be able to be a part of their Club Nintendo wherever they live just like everyone else. Seems like a way of simplifying things to me. Just my opinion, anyways.
I'm sure Nintendo has their reasons for not offering it in those regions, but I think it should be looked into - not that you're missing anything lately...they're rewards have been so-so compared to prior years. Beats nothing I guess.
@Spartacus3765
Well, it's Bergsala that has Ninty under its wings here in Nordic countries and I don't know why they haven't joined CN network. Few years ago in Finland it was AMO that had Nintystuff here and then Bergsala bought them (or something). I think they could create one for the Nordic countries, we already have several online retailers that ship to all to nordic countries (Webhallen, CDON, Discshop).
But our games include those PINs
And now amazingly in online stores have bundles that have console+MM physical game and Skull Kid figurine
EDIT: But I do understand that somehow stopping this kind of robbery (even there is two sides). eBay banning preorder sales would be one.
Nintendo needs to take a serious look at what scalpers are doing with their products. It's pretty ridiculous that they come out with these items for fans to enjoy but many who would have gotten one will not get one because the price has been artificially inflated. The preorder window was hours at most and who wants to spend hours refreshing an amazon page. It takes a lot of the fun out of these. All the rich kids get the items is that much fun?
Amazing as that DS looks, I'd rather get the game and figure... Where's that limited edition for UK?
@JellySplat Yeah, I checked 2 minutes later after mine. G-O-N-E. I felt extremely relieved that I got one.
@drewb0203 Heavy sighs of relief were made when we finished racing through the checkout! We were almost afraid they would all be gond by the time we were done checking out! Lol!
@Itglows And what should they do when they look at these scalpers?
@Finntendo you have the fire emblem edition!? Those are so cool! They only made the small ones in US. Still cool, but not as XL..!
@CB85 yeah, but then it wouldn't be as special for the die-hard fans who were able to get one at regular price. Granted, this is coming from one of those lucky fans, although I can certainly understand the point of view of all those who weren't able to preorder one (trust me, I've been there many times before). I do agree with you about wanting the scalpers eliminated for the sake of other fans though.
@Paperluigi Majora's Mask has always been my favorite Zelda since I was a kid. I missed out on the Skull Kid edition pre-order, I brushed it off, a quick "Darn!" and no harm no foul. This, THIS!!! This is too far! This pisses me off so much! First Amiibo! Then GC Adapters! Skull Kid edition!!! Nintendo needs to STOP this! The best way in my opinion is to end online pre-ordering. That would cause a MINOR inconvenience for real fans at the MOST. If they do that scalpers can't pre-order in bulk. I feel like it's gone TOO far, and if extreme measures like that were to be taken, I'd be A-Okay
@TingLz
Ship more copies, or devise some sort of system where you can order some of these products through club nintendo and they will produce as many as they need. The system they have is not working for anyone but scalpers right now.
So does this mean I won't be able to buy one when it comes out at my local gamestop?
Same problem here in Japan. By the end of the day following the Nintendo Direct, all the major electronic sellers on internet where sold out for preoders, even though they were limited to 1 per consumer... I didn't buy any previous New 3DS because I was waiting for exactly this kind of edition. A huge bummer for me...
@SkullKid there aren't going to be any at your local gamestop. These preorders were never in-store preorders. Gamestop was just taking orders for systems that they would ship directly to your home. Anyone who hasn't pre-ordered this is not going to get one (unless they buy from the scalpers, which I refuse to do).
I was in Gamestop less than two hours after these were announced (took an extended lunch break!) and I missed out on getting a pre-order. Very upset and wish Nintendo would show that they care about true fans who have to choose between being taken advantage of and missing out on really neat items like these.
@JellySplat
Yeah. It kind of looks so basic but I like the logo on it. (tho I was bit sad when LBW edition came out). It's not too much. And now I was sure I'll get the next Zelda edition, but I am not going to spend 300e (plus postages): GameStops here has reasonable price for it, but nearest is 200km from me so... and I guess you have to visit store to get stuff.
If there is still stock later this year after the buzz is gone, maybe I get it and sell the regular that I am orderning now.
...And then they say Nintendo is dying
@Finntendo personally, I've always on thought less is more. But we all have opinions.
I managed to get a New MM 3DSXL by pre-ordering off Nintendo.co.uk. I did have to hog the internet on my mobile phone all day though :-/
Even if someone offered me £400.00 for it I wouldn't part with it as I will enjoy every moment playing it
I heard the people that place items on Ebay have to pay fees. So I think lots of people should group together and tell others not to buy the New Nintendo 3DS/XL from Ebay.
That way the sellers lose their own money.
hey guys, people are going to make their money.
it may seem like its not right but a businessperson is gonna make their money.
"opportunists" (and even "scalpers") is way too kind
@emiingham charger ? The Majoras mask collectors edition just comes with the figurine and game! Majoras mask limited edition console just comes with the console, stylus and sd card, if your in America of course.
@Isaiasrosas212 I'm in the UK. The MM XL consoles comes with the game, a charger and skull kid figure
@emiingham that awesome, all for the Price of one lol 👌🎮 ! Sadly here in America, too much demand means very little resources. Even tho I got ahold of the new 3ds XL Majoras mask limited edition and the ultimate MM collectors edition. Only difference is that it comes with the collectors Strategy Guide. But cost me more money than buying the uk version, and It still doesn't include the charger lol .
@Isaiasrosas212 It's not really the same as buying just the console though because it converts to around $318
It costs $317. Something dollars to be exact haha. Good point though. The struggles though in obtaining the 3ds XL Mm console and the MM Ultimate Collectors edition here in America, wish I lived in the UK where sell out times are not within 15 minutes. But the good thing is that I got them.
Some may say "that's capitalism", or an "entrepreneurial spirit"
Nah, those who do this are just terrible people.
@Omenapoika Thank you for not adding to the problem. Hopefully the person that snagged the slot you opened up will enjoy their new system.
I'm still angry/disappointed scalpers were able to buy them by the boatload and I can't buy one. I want to give you my money Nintendo...why won't you take it??
Those people are **** *****g ***h****.
@YoshiTails after hearing it sold out in the US within 15 mins I was checking the site every 15 mins until it popped online and ordered me 2 so me and my sister could get one.
The Between Two Worlds one was limited edition but didn't have a huge fan base already compared to Majoras hench why majoras is wanted by more people I think
Amazon has pre orders up for mm console, hurry! That's Amazon UK
I hate these donkeyholes. I understand that you want to make a profit but for people like me who would want the console to own and play with now I can't and I will not pay $350 for it. They're ruining it all for all of us.
Yeah, as cool as these are, just don't buy from the scalpers and the joke will be on them. They thought they made money but if the consoles just sit they'll have to come down in price.
In portugal fnac.pt still have majoras and mh 3ds edition on stock... and its there since 19 january...
@PrincessSakura
Ope! I was right, once again best buy fails to deliver the goods so to speak.
Just got an email saying that my order was canceled because my brother and I both used the same card to purchase the items.
I hate you BestBuy. I utterly and completely HATE you, with a burning and fiery passion!
@Jazzer94 No, you don't get it. Value doesn't come from how long something sits on a shelf. Value is based on three things: perceived value, rarity, and demand. If everyone wants it (demand), and there is a limited number of them available (rarity), people are willing to pay a lot of money for them (value).
Consumer products do not have real value. They are assigned value by the people who want and need them. It is worth however much somebody is willing to pay for it.
@ShoryukenKid I agree. I really really want the Majora's Mask 3DS console, but I will not pay higher than the retail price to get it. Scalpers are dicks.
The rarity of the device isn't what draws me to it, its that it looks amazing, is my favorite nintendo franchise,and based on an excellent game. If it wasn't limited edition people would still be crazy for it, including myself. Maybe knowing not everyone has it would make it feel a little more special, but I don't care how many people get it, I still really want it; but best buy canceled my order because they suck. Making more would help the situation because fans would buy them regardless of the rarity, nintendo would make way more money and people would be happy.
It sounds like Nintendo of America is to blame. Maybe if there was better communication between the United States branch and their Japanese overlords this stuff would not happen. NoA should be well aware of the reseller problem and spelling it out to Nintendo of Japan.
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