The Wii U is home to some amazing games, but we've had to wait quite a while to get them. Nintendo has taken longer than expected to become accustomed to the demands of HD development, and this has resulted in some titles taking longer than expected to reach store shelves.
However, according to Shigeru Miyamoto, 2015 is the year when such delays become a thing of the past. During the recent investor's Q&A meeting, the legendary game designer stated that Nintendo has sped up development time on the Wii U, and that it is looking to create more spin-off releases like Hyrule Warriors:
On development time, we have already completed the step of learning new development techniques. So, we should experience less developmental delays stemming from learning new hardware. From now on, it becomes a matter of if we can use our experience efficiently and one part of our plan to do so is to use 'spin off games', which allow us to use our major title franchises, but create on a smaller scale and we are working hard on making these sort of derived products. In this way, we are preparing to expand on our characters while also increasing the number of software we output and allowing our customers to have their next experiences in certain franchises without waiting three years.
We are also working more and more with many different 3rd party companies to produce our titles [note: this seems to refer to outsourcing things like asset creation, cut-scenes, etc] and from this year we have begun to work with some software developers for the very first time. We are in the process of creating a system where we are actively seeking outside assistance to help us create an abundance of major titles. I feel that next year's Wii U titles are plentiful. We will continue working hard.
Hyrule Warriors was a collaboration between Nintendo, Koei Tecmo and Omega Force, and has managed to achieve respectable sales. Would you be willing to see more releases of this type in 2015, or would you rather Nintendo focus on making mainline sequels to its famous properties? Could we possibly see an announcement during today's Nintendo Direct? Let us know what you think with a comment below.
[source neogaf.com, via nintendoworldreport.com]
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My, my! This sounds promising! Let's see if that's gonna be a topic in today's Direct.
I'm trying to think of another interesting combo they could go for... maybe something Super Robot Wars-esque from Bamco?
They really need to light a fire under Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. Bringing Majin Tensei back from the dead is some shape or form.
They've already got Pokefighters lined up for a... probably 3D fighter? Could probably use a 2D fighter too. Nintendo vs Capcom anyone?
Depends of course, I love Hyrule Warriors, and there's been other spin-offs in the past that I truely like, but it's a case by case scenario.
SMT X FE is one I'm looking forward for to learn more about, and a Metroid-themed survival horror game with ZombiU's tense atmosphere would also be lovely.
Hmm. I'd like to see what other spin off titles they could create.
I wish they would just create new games - not spinoffs - and release them. You never know when something might be a success, and now they are just playing to their A-games popularity so sub-par stuff like Hyrule Warriors can sell. They're playing into all the "Nintendo only has Mario and Zelda"-haters hand
I'd love to see a Fire Emblem Warriors.
You mean like Splatoon and Wonderful 101?
@KryptoKrunch That would be a good idea for a follow up. But you don't want to do to many Warriors games too quick. Those things can get old quick.
great I loved Hyrule Warriors
HD port please. Pikmin 1&2 HD, Luigi's Mansion HD, SM Sunshine HD, Eternal Darkness HD, and
Well there is Fire Emblem x Shin Megami Tensei, don't know what else.
"I feel that next year's Wii U titles are plentiful"
How about some 3DS announcements, finally?
Call of Pikmin: Bulborb Ops!
Heashot the little buggers and capture their onion. Overrule the forces of garden domination - be a real hocotate slayer!
I'm buying it for sure.
I think Wii U may just end up outdoing the Wii for quality stuff from Nintendo. Absolutely I'd like to see more spin-offs and smaller-scale titles - just as long as they're good!
Well I do want more crazy wonderful Nintendo games like Hyrule Warriors! (It's partly why i bought the system) Hopefully we'll see some announcements for new games in this new Nintendo Direct
Hyrule Warriors is an extremely good game. More crossover titles could be very promising!
First was Capcom with the Luigi Mansion arcade game. Wii U titles seemed plentiful to me
"Hey,Hey!Looks like I'm the new face of Nintendo!
I'm ok as long as these spinoffs are filled with quality like most previous Nintendo games.
Hasn't Nintendo already done this? Creating spin off games that aren't in the real cannon like Mario, Zelda, Kirby and Donkey Kong and having different characters take place like Wario?
I don't get it. And how can they make a Spin off of Metroid if that series doesn't have much of characters to begin with unless they give it a different timeline? Or what about Fire Emblem? How is that gonna be any different?
Mario FPS anyone?
F-Zero game? Ice Climbing Warriors? Yay.
@erv: What about Call of Mario: Advanced Mushroom
I want a new Paper- title.
I can't wait to see what is coming up next year. Hopefully the direct reveals some of these spin offs.
Metroid Effect ! haha, seriously tough, i'd would really like a new Metroid game where you explore more than just one isolated planet. Yes i know, Metroid prime 3 was bigger than that but this is exactly my point. In metroid prime 3, Samus meets people, travel from ship to planet etc... It would be great to have even more. A bit like Mass effect ... thus ... Metroid Effect !
How about some new 3ds games for once other than Pokemon.
So, technically, there is loads of 3rd party support, just with first party games. Yay!
I sense a Metroid cross over incoming in tonight's direct
@BensonUii You beat me to it.
Call of Lylat: Animalistic (see what I did there) Warfare.
Notice how he worded that.
"In this way, we are preparing to expand on our characters while also increasing the number of software we output and allowing our customers to have their next experiences in certain franchises without waiting three years."
This basically said, based on his wording, that they will take their most popular characters and give them spin off games between releases, inbetween the normal releases, in certain franchises.
Hence, every mildly popular Nintendo franchise is up for grabs on the Wii U for a crossover title. You ask, what's popular? Take a look at Smash Bros- Pokemon (Getting Pokken Fighters), Fire Emblem (FE x SMT), Mario (Another Mario Spinoff), Zelda (Hyrule Warriors), etc.
Where it gets interesting is the unannounced titles. If you look at every smash bros character series' representation, you'll find that Metroid, Kid Icarus Uprising, Punch Out!!, Retro NES in form of DHD & Dr. Mario, Animal Crossing, Wii Fit and a few third party titles have all increased.
I feel that this means, based on a lack of the number of titles Iwata seems to know of but not revealed, that we will see Wii U spinoffs of some of these series, as they are growing in popularity. Metroid, Kid Icarus and Animal Crossing all seem like perfect fits for me, but anything can happen- DHD & Dr. Mario were each recognized in form of NES REMIX.
tl;dr I'm calling an Animal Crossing, Metroid and Kid Icarus (well, I wish the third could happen...) spinoffs on Wii U due to smash reps.
@KryptoKrunch Nice call! It would be perfect
Metroid Prime HD trilogy would kick derriere! I am wondering when we are going to here some more from Retro. They noted they had begun development on something else a while before DK was finished, were coming up to a year with the whole development team having been moved onto this project and not a single peep from them, we know it's not StarFox as the discussion about letting another development studio take some of the reigns on that came up from Miyamoto before and after E3. I am litterally dying to know what on earth they could be making, if its another DK game though I might lose it
And with a Direct today, I'm very excited. This gives me hope for smt x FE. The possibilities are endless with these crossovers.
Metroid battlefront for the WiiU. Or super late Metroid DLC for Mass effect 3.
I'm always looking for the next unique game experience, so I'll gladly hear any ideas Nintendo has up their sleeve. I'm not really big on coming up with imaginative ideas myself so I'll leave that to Nintendo.
Duck Hunt Uprising, the newest FPS where you will be shooting down Dark Duck Hunt
Sounds good but it wouldn't hurt if they make more new IPs. Splatoon is not enough.
And give me some Metroid. 1080° would be nice too.
This gives me more hope for a Kirby Air Ride sequel... But then I remember Kirby and the Rainbow Curse and how it would be weird to have two spinoffs of the same series in development at the same time...
@Warbeard
Warriors is one of the best games on Wii U.
More spin offs of popular characters means more use for amiibo.
The timing of this with the direct coming up has me rather excited so I'm just going to throw some names in here.My picks would be ,Pilot Wings ( Eshop only) ,F Zero Online ,(Eshop only with no single player mode,just 32 Player online with leagues and tournaments) , a Wario & Waluigi Bros platformer, Excitetruck HD (remake of the Wii version) and Super Metroid 2 (Eshop only 16 Bit official sequel )
All that and a plethora of Gamecube classics in between the big hitters and we'll all be happy bunnies
Very happy
This seems to be good news, as long as the quality of games remains high. I'm anxious to see what they come up with
@xj220_afiles
A large Metroid game with character filled Frontiers (Hub Worlds) where you can meet up with other Bounty Hunters, before embarking into the depths of hostile and oppressive worlds would be amazing.
The sense of isolation in the Metroid games is amazing, but the bonds you form in the Mass Effect series with your team mates is a greater experience in my opinion.
@erv Can you quick scope one?
Animal Crossing Hunter?
Now I'm excited for the Direct.
Pretty excited. I hope they don't go the hd port route (while there are tons of games I want to replay I prefer new experiences first) and if we get more games like HW, next year will be a fun one!
Spin-offs are a great idea to fill out the release schedule, but I hope future ones appeal to me more than Hyrule Warriors.
@Warbeard
I don't know about that. The main complaints I've seen against Hyrule Warriors are "its just a warriors game with a Zelda skin" and "its not Zelda". Neither have much to do with only having Zelda, quite the opposite actually.
In my experience, the people complaing about them 'only having Mario and Zelda' already have a bias against them. Even games like Captain Toad get dismissed for being Mario characters, and new IP like Splatoon for being "kiddie". Its not worth worrying about the haters, they won't be happy no matter what Nintendo does.
@erv - I guess your kidding, but Ive always thought the Pikmin planet was fertile ground for other gamedevelopment. Maybe not COD, but tower defense or a sims life game. 3DS has a dozen of those but Wii U has zero. If PVZ can have Garden Warfare so can Pikmin.
Wii U certainly seems like it has more games next year than it has had previously:
Launch - Zombie U, NSMBU
Year 1 - Lego City, SM3DW, Pikmin 3
Year 2 - MK8, SSBU, DKCTF, CTTT
Year 3 - Yoshi, Kirby, MP10, Starfox, XCX, Zelda, Splatoon
I left out Platinums games, trying to focus on big Nintendo games. Im sure those games/years can be manipulated but next year seems well stocked to me, which I believe is his main point, a steady supply of Nintendo games.
Im sure retro are working on metroid, we know zelda, yoshi, kirby and SMTvFE are coming. I'd guess the a mario game in development too. Outsource fzero and starfox, and maybe look at doing something with the likes of waverace and 1080° and excite bike/truck. A game that combined all 3 would be great.
Pikmon...it just makes too much sense. It would be a terrible game, but with a cool name(that'd be a good tagline)
@rjejr zombie u and lego city werent nintendo developed games, but the quantity of games is increasing as you say
1) Fire Emblen Warriors (like hyrule warriors but with full voice acting with Laura Bailey as Lucina, Matthew Mercer as Chrom)
2) Metroid: Hunted (Samus a bounty hunter on the run from the galactic federation after her last stunt in Metroid 4 aka Fusion). A Mass Effect like game (without the romance) but with Metroidvania elements
3) Metroid hunters (a Destiny type of game but with better story a Metroidvania elements)
4) Nintendo Landmark (like Landmark but with Nintendo theme worlds. Amiibo fully supported
5) Nintendo Detective famicom club (like Phoenix Wright but new elements and the NES game characters)
6) Duck-hunt dog (yes there is a -. A Banjo Kazooie type of game)
@BensonUii YESYESYES. Do want.
Also, Super Mario World in NSMBU artstyle and Earthbound 3D (ORAS style remake).
Mushroom Kingdom Warriors.
Please, please understand... We want games!
@mastermp2 I love the title Metroid: Hunted, but it sounds more akin to a horror game where Samus loses her upgrades again, but the Chozo never landed on this planet. So no upgrades, a big, scary, non-Ridley thing following her, and no access to her ship. I'd play it.
Or we could have Bounty Buddies, a Samus Aran/Captain Falcon buddy cop game about bringing in bounty rewards. You know, their job descriptions...
I would really like to see a No More Heroes game set in the F-Zero universe, and a pikmin themed katamari damacy. I'm not sure if Nintendo is planning on just throwing more of their ip's into third party franchises, though, or if they're planning on making more Eshop indie style cheap games like Mario vs DK and NES Remix. I'm of course hoping for the former.
I'm a bit baffled at all the confusion here. It is actually quite simple, so all you people mixing Nintendo titles are completely off course. Just take Hyrule Warriors as an example and go from there. That means that there will be NON-Nintendo games featuring Nintendo characters.
And making several Warriors games is of course the dumbest suggestion, and one that no self-respecting Wii U owner should accept. "Yeah, great idea, let's turn every Nintendo franchise into a Dynasty Warriors game". Oh, man....
I've loved HW so I'm excited!
I got it! How about we put Mario and the gang into go kart races, but let them use weapons such as a koopa shell, or may be a banana peel to attack the other drivers.......no. it'll never work. Never mind.
Wii U Fit for Justice - 2 yoga trainers take the law into their own hands after their small gym is burned down by 2 Italian brothers when they refused to pay for mob protection. Coming next year from Rock Star Games........
As long as it's not Zelda, Zelda, Zelda, I should be interested.
'spin off games', which allow us to use our major title franchises, but create on a smaller scale
This is going to kill Nintendo's franchise by lowering the quality of its product.
A Metroid proper game is going to have to be special and impressive to undo backlash from the under appreciated Other M. In the meantime we need a game that is in the Metroid franchise but distinctively NOT the same type of game (maybe). Tough job, actually. I don't think a FPS is a great idea and I'm having a hard time plugging Samus into another genre like Link and co. went into the Warriors franchise. Any idea I have feels to ambitious for an in-between game (open world, or survival). Pinball again? lol.
Maybe the Metroid Prime HD... though the trilogy for Wii is still so good and it would require some intense work so I don't know.
Nah, it will probably be a 3DS game that is either 2D gameplay or like Hunters but a real game (not just multiplayer). BUT it will be mostly spun off to some third party maybe?
Batman Arkham Asylum should be the standard for a new 3d Metroid game.
Nintendo seriously lacks an ARPG. A Monolith one per generation is not enough.
Knowing Nintendo this would be with Japanese developers so (idle speculation mode on) maybe a Metal Gear-type game featuring Metroid, Rhythm Thief with probably Mario and Co, a Klonoa crossover with Donkey Kong, and Kid Icarus meets Dead Rising (I'm particularly proud of that last one). A Western release for Puyo Puyo Tetris would be nice too.
Oh and full Mario Golf/Tennis/Baseball sequels with the Wii Sports Club mechanics seem no-brainers to me. Namco Bandai could do them.
@GTWarrior77 The devs of Splatoon were going to have Mario in it, and it would have been a third person shooter. However, after long talks, Miyamota said NO, as they would not be able to release the title as a new IP. So, what you said is not beyond the realms of possibility, and I for one would love to see a FPS Mario game.
@aaronsullivan I think Metroid is in need of a new game in the main series that ISN'T Other M before a spinoff can be made!
Anyways, I just hope Nintendo doesn't go over board with spinoffs. I'd rather them let other companies handle their IP's to create new games that stay completely true to what the franchises are famous for, like how Namco made a Star Fox, Capcom made a Zelda, and SEGA made an F-Zero.
It's good to finally see some acknowledgment that Nintendo need more games with the death of third-party support. I remain surprised that they haven't gone deep into the HD port business. Given the similarities in hardware between Gamecube/Wii/Wii U they should be very straightforward and a quick, cost-effective way to fill the schedules, using the eshop where necessary to minimise publishing costs and risk.
Mario Sunshine could really benefit from a refit to unleash its full potential. HD ports of Wave Race Blue Storm and F-Zero GX would give them some idea of residual demand for the franchises. The Wii U has the control options to play all the previous Wario Wares. N-Space were chomping at the bit to redo Geist. Games like Giftpia, Takt of Magic, and Line Attack Heroes could be ported and translated. Custom Robo, Baten Kaitos Origins, Disaster and Excitebots didn't make it out in all territories. Hardly anybody has played Chibi-Robo, Last Story and Pandora's Tower because they came out in their host consoles last days etc....
I think people are missing some key words. The most intriguing and promising thing he said seems to indicate essentially letting third parties make more games for them and for underrepresented franchises as well as spin off games. So we will see Nintendo letting developers use existing franchises to make new games to fill gaps while Nintendo bakes their masterpieces.
As long as they are as good as Hyrule Warriors bring it on.
Fire Emblem X Shin Megamai will be one of them.
A Spin off game with the Metroid, F-Zero, and Star Fox cast would be amazing.
Here's hoping for a crossover with Nintendo's universe in the vain of Kingdom Hearts. If I have to wait this long for KH3, then I am hoping for a surrogate.
dynasty warriors super mario world. hundreds if goombas flying in the air or smashed all at once. or a giant bowser rampage level taking down peach's castle
YES! Almost every game supervised by Nintendo ends up well, so if they collaborate with other teams using Nintendo's own IPs we'll surely have some great games in good quantities. Those spin offs could be like a fresh air too because of the nature of doing that (although I'm fine with just Nintendo titles)
If this means games like Hyrule Warriors, Captain Toad, and FExSMT, then I am very against the idea.
Can't wait for F-Zero Warriors, Metroid Warriors, Mother Warriors, Kirby Warriors and Mario Warriors.
Seriously though, if this means more games like Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker im definitely not against it.
Just gimme a Fire Emblem warriors, or even a Soul Calibur with Fire Emblem characters ( please Nanco Bandai!).
I've got an "I'll believe it when I see it" attitude when it comes to publishers claiming that they're going to have a lot of games within a given period of time (Nintendo ESPECIALLY), but I must say that at least they're giving us details of their new plan and reasons why this might actually be somewhat true.
They've always been famously low on manpower though, so I'm not quite sure how they're going to juggle this many smaller titles as well as working on the big ones. Hopefully it's like he says and they're just getting a lot of outside help.
I'd love more spinoffs--they just need to be a little more polished than HW. (Have you seen what the characters look like when they die? Their eyes are wide open). Also, HW gets pretty close to BUSY WORK (like running at 2 mph). I do admire it for its large amount of incoming DLC.
@Yorumi It takes about five seconds for them to start running, and I don't know how you are comparing it to other games, but it takes far too long to get to points where I need to 'immediately' aid.
Spinoffs are always welcome, especially since many of their franchises have been stagnating lately. One idea I had (which I personally think would be a good direction for the main series but wouldn't mind as a spinoff) would be a Donkey Kong game in the style of a God of War-esque platformer/beat em up hybrid, Nintendo's never really made a game of that genre and they don't really have a lot of beat em up games. Plus it fits the universe like a glove, DK has always been shown off as a physical brawler, why not make something of that?
Also, we haven't had a lot of good Pokemon spinoffs lately, some of the most memorable ones like Mystery Dungeon and Ranger seem to be dying off. They really need to come up with some better ones.
Yeah, kinda sick of 3rd parties due to the laziness in their games...which are usually just ports. Then there's ones like Platinum and Koei Tecmo, they seem to actually care about the Wii U. Though I haven't played Bayonetta/2 yet (money, lol), but Hyrule Warriors is pretty fun.
I get the feeling Miyamoto's quote is being taken out of context. He said "one part of our plan to do so is to use 'spin off games', which allow us to use our major title franchises, but create on a smaller scale and we are working hard on making these sort of derived products."
That does not mean "more spin-off releases like Hyrule Warriors." Maybe or maybe not. Also, spin-off does not equal cross-over. And don't forget the part about "small scale."
Actually, the whole quote makes me think of games like Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker. That's a spin-off and small scale.
Where are my Nintendo franchise dating sims?
I would love to see something, honestly anything, Metroid related. Or a 2D/3D MegaMan action game made by Platinum.
Im going for lego Mario.
Mario Kart Vs Sega Allstars
Bayonetta Meets devil May Cry
Resident Luigi
@RaphaBoss I just got chills over the idea of a Soul Fire Emblem... Lyn will be my main.
I do hope this means they will give the smaller franchises to other devs. I'll stop badmouthing EA if they do a Punch Out with the fight night or ufc engine.
I can't wait for the Mario & Luigi hot coffee mod or the Princess Peach God of War crossover
As long as they are the Nintendo quality we have all come to know and love, I say bring em on! More games is always good!
Sounds awesome!
@Ryu_Niiyama Glad you like it!
I don't mind Nintendo loaning their IPs as long as they're not cheap cash ins. Through the years, there's been ups and downs, but I personally have been pleased with most of Nintendo's games where they loaned them out. I guess with talk like this, I guess Star Fox and F-Zero can't be too far behind then. Fingers crossed.
I don't mind Nintendo loaning their IPs as long as they're not cheap cash ins. Through the years, there's been ups and downs, but I personally have been pleased with most of Nintendo's games where they loaned them out. I guess with talk like this, I guess Star Fox and F-Zero can't be too far behind then. Fingers crossed.
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