Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS isn't short of content, and the upcoming live Nintendo Direct is promising "50 new things" for the home console iteration; it's clear that Masahiro Sakurai and his team have devoted a great deal of effort to details both big and small.
Gamers and fans always want more, of course, and with major Nintendo titles often featuring DLC nowadays — high profile examples include Hyrule Warriors and the upcoming Mario Kart 8 packs — there are hopes that Smash Bros. will join the trend. Following previous rumours around code in the 3DS title that suggests DLC may be a reality, an inquisitive gamer called PushDustin has been digging around to find details.
Among the evidence apparently found we have code that supposedly proves the ability to load DLC characters and stages, an in-game shop and — picking up on the key part of earlier rumours — support for 8-player fights. Some of the evidence has been found in the Wii U connectivity area, suggesting a role for 3DS systems in supporting 8-player matches — the portable can be used as a controller in the Wii U version. Below is a summary posted over on NeoGaf.
The game uses pictures (EFF and BCO for Japanese and English) to animate "A Challenger Appears" on the top screen, so since there is a text version in the dump, either characters are unlocked through connecting to the Wii U, or it will display the text when a character is purchased through the store. Even though I hate to admit it, it's most likely connected to the Wii U menu as there is no other text for the store (it'll probably connect to the E-Shop, or download the page from the Internet). However, there are no additional characters files in the game which severely hurts the chances of this being the case (as the 3DS would have to download quite a bit of data from the Wii U in order to utilize the character).
The 3DS can be used as a controller in 8 player Smash for the Wii U, based on the pictures with the file names: 29CE and 279A (Essentially: the 1-8 Player Icons, and numbers with pictures of 8 fighters). Files with CFC13 are the menu pictures.
Head on over to the linked forum post to see the claimed evidence, though as always we urge caution; leaks around Smash Bros. have sometimes proven correct but, equally, have occasionally been well wide of the mark. The concept of DLC and eight-player battles does seem relatively feasible, however, and would play up to Sakurai-san's remarks about showing off the true potential of the franchise.
Do you think there'll be Super Smash Bros. DLC, and if so what do you think it'd be? Let us know in the comments below.
[source neogaf.com, via gamnesia.com]
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Does it include a patch to use the d-pad because using the circle pad is still awful?
Maybe those chatacters will be added along with a patch before the DLC comes out. No one knew about the mario kart 8 DLC until Nintendo announced it.
Bring it on! The more the merrier!
hype
YES. YES. Come on, Mewtwo!
I hope that 8-player mode can be played online.
I'm not buying the 3DS version so hopefully there is a way for me to get this connecting DLC.
@Mommar
+1 DPad all the way!
No!!! I hope the Wii U version has all the characters! I dont wanna buy the 3DS version and connect.
@GregDavisBlows SAME HERE
If MK8 got DLC, then certainly Smash would as well.
They could make truly crap DLC characters and stages and I would still buy everyone of them! DLC would be awesome!!
Well, they already told us amiibo support isn't in the game yet and has to be patched in next year (saw/heard it in a video, I think w/ Sakurai) so it makes sense there is some way to download extra data into the game.
Anybody know how many simultaneous controllers the Wii U supports? I know one Gamepad but Wiimotes and Pro's, all of them together. There is at least 1 5 player game out there so at least 5. I'm wondering if even using the 3DS as controllers the Wii U could manage 8 at once, meaning 8 player would have to be online.
It would be an incredible missed opportunity. Nintendo fans want DLC for these types of games. Give it to us.
@rjejr Unless they use the Gamecube adapter the same way Bomberman Blast utilized the gamecube controllers. 1 gamepad + 3 pros + 4 gamecube controllers = win. Or 4 gamecube controllers + 4 3dses, etc.
The 8-player Smash will most likely be for the board game mode.. I could see that. Four players on Wii U and four on 3DS.
DLC for Smash would be sweet, especially if the pricing is as good as the MK8 DLC.
Please no DLC.... Unless it's in the form of stages, I can live with that
Chorus men?
@TheItalianBaptist - Well that makes sense, I forgot about the adapter. Would certainly help sales if you could buy 2 adapters and play 8 player w/o anybody complaining about the wireless lag. Thanks.
@Blast That's what you get for not buying both, I guess.
It would suck for future Smash Wii U only owners if you were restricted to having all the DLC characters because you dont have a 3ds, but I think it would be a cool bonus for us who own both as like a "thank you" and it could possibly increase sells for those obsessed about having all the characters. Im all for them getting sales, they deserve it!
Just a silly thought but what if the Challenger Appears thing is for when you transfer custom mii fighters to the 3ds?
@Blast Suck's for you if this turns out to be true ,ha!
Still holding out for Mewtwo, Ridley, Dixie Kong, and you know who would be a cool newcomer? Instead of Lucas bring in Paula from Earthbound. It would match with the theme of more female characters in smash.
@Mommar THANK YOU! Hear hear!!!!
@Rapwned Fingers crossed!!!
@Sparx Actually that could be true!
Of course there will be DLC! This is the 'New' Nintendo, no more Mario as Mascot, now it's all Wario... laughing all the way to the bank.
4 more characters
Sora KH
Lloyd ToS
Zale Last Story
And the whip guy from Pandora's Tower
Wakes up from dream... oh sorry
@Nintendian The New Nintendo loves Bayonetta, DLC and HD.
Very different from the Old Nintendo!
@Inkling How is Nintendo any different now then they ever were? Because they now offer DLC for games that already packed with features and content? If Smash Bros 4 gets DLC, those characters are icing on top of a 50+ character roster and feature-packed cake.
Not all DLC is a evil money grab. If done right, if can enhance games and help them extend their lifespan. DLC for Smash would allow characters like Mewtwo, Wolf, Lucas to finally come back. Without it, we might never see them until potentally the next Smash Bros.
As for HD, of course Nintendo is going to focus on that aspect. Their current console is an HD system after all. Not that it really affects the quality of their games. They still play just as good as they ever have. Now, they just look better with an HD coat of paint.
I think they would be daft not to do DLC for Smash to be honest, it would keep the game alive way after release & who doesn't want more stages & characters?
The only three characters that I'd love to be DLC more than anything are Lucas, Wolf, and the Ice Climbers (assuming they can actually get them to work properly on the 3DS in the future.) Anyone else would just be bonuses.
I'm holding a "wait and see" mentality. If it happens, awesome. If not, there is already a ton of stuff on the cartridge as is.
Anyone thinking that maybe hooking the 3DS version to Wii U will unlock a DLC character or 2 for free? Would certainly show those leakers. I just think the 50 new things that will be revealed will be a bit more then just items, stages, modes and so on...
Would be nice if 8 player smash can be done solely on Wii U using the Gamecube adapter.
and really so far, the DLC they've offered has been good in the value for money so far as MK8 and HW has shown.
Lol i own the game YET im not hyped about this.
Am I the only one that hopes that the DLC is unlocked throught purchase of both games and connecting the Wii U and 3DS versions together?
From a business stand point, it makes sense, because it give people a reason to own both versions.
Either way, I will still be picking up the Wii U version to go along side my 3DS version...
@Inkling If Nintendo really loved Bayonetta, this stream would be next week.
@Takerkaneanite6
thats largely why ibought the 3ds version. that and the abilty to use it as a controller
@Mommar Why would you want to use the D-Pad? That would make it impossible to do tilt moves or have different walking speeds. Plus the D-Pad is in a very awkward spot on the console. The Circle Pad is far form perfect, but the D-Pad would be even worse. Get some circle pad covers if it bothers you that much.
i certainly don't mind DLC as much as having 4 Pokemon in the character roster and 2 pretty bad 'clone' characters.
So bring it on, i probably won't get back my Solid Snake but i can dream.
@Bulbousaur Because the walking speed is touchy and irritating, I'd rather have two speeds I can rely on rather than some inconsistent gradient. And none of the characters I main have tilt moves so it's completely worthless for me.
Don't tell me what I will and won't like. I've used the d-pad for every game in the series and it works better for my play style. Having the option won't hurt you but it will help me and the many people who want the same patched back in.
@Bulbousaur You can do tilt moves with a D-pad just as easily as a Control stick... except for up tilt. But that's not a problem if tap to jump is off, which most people have off anyway on the 3DS version. In fact, I think that the D-pad would be more efficient to put in inputs faster and more correctly. Much better than the monstrosity known as the Circle pad.
@Mommar "And none of the characters I main have tilt moves..." You mean no useful tilts, because every character has them. And what characters do you main that have no useful tilts?
If they do it like Mario Kart and Hyrule Warriors it will be great. This is stuff to keep the games active well into next year.
Seriously, can we form a petition to have a patch to control the characters and smash attacks with the D pad? Who's idea was it to make the D pad, the button that has moved characters left and right since the 80s, the taught button instead?
I just hope that having both 3DS and Wii U versions isn't required for extra content... that would be a rip-off.
@MetaCrisisIrvin , Smash is suposed to be played with an analog.
I sorta think the "check downloaded stages" could be used with the create-a-stage feature on wii u. You might be able to share stages.
If we get any DLC at all I'd imagine it would be new colors and costumes. Everyone wants Dad Bowser and I could see those costumes, plus more, coming to the games.
Could still be a cut idea but we would have to see
@Grumblevolcano Unless she is in the stream. (DLC)
Also the "A challenger appears" message is in With Friends online when someone tries to join your room so I don't see this as proof of anything.
Whatever DLC it is, I hope it's good!
I've been wanting Dixie Kong for a looong time. I was hoping she'd show up in Brawl. If she shows up as DLC that would make my life!
@NintyMan i wanted Cranky. (Ever since the falling into a pit was lack of skill thing).
@RaphaBoss I was trained to play smash on the wii with the wiimote held sideways like a NES remote.
I kinda doubt 8-player battles and character DLC to be true, mostly because 8 just seems like too many players for almost all stages expect Temple and character DLC just seems unlikely unless it's for both versions. Stages (even Items) as DLC would make more sense and seems very plausible.
Rumours about needing to connect your Wii U to your 3DS to get certain characters are obvious BS if you ask me, seeing as Nintendo would never act that foolish toward people who only have a 3DS (and this is coming from someone who owns both), especially since the player-base for 3DS is much larger than it is for the Wii U.
There was a leak a while ago, showing Prof. EGadd, Never thought of him before, But sounds like an interesting character.
@Monkeh Agreed. The most believable reason that Ice Climbers aren't returning is because the 3DS can't handle more then 4 characters running at 60FPS, and Sakurai said that both characters for wii u and 3ds would be the same.
Wouldn't mind DLC, especially if it ain't required (I'm in no rush to download Wolf, Lucas, or the Ice Climbers). But to me, an 8-player battle seems like it would be too crowded.
Hmm, maybe you get Dixie/Ridley/Chorus Kids/Mewtwo (believe!) for free if you connect both games, but they're a few dollars ($2-5?) each if you only have one.
I has hype for the Direct.
i really really really really really hope its dlc for new playable characters(MACH RIDER)
DLC for Smash makes way too much sense.
Ninty, don't wait for Smash 5 to implement DLC. Give us what you've got, baby.
Everyone is making a big deal about this hidden data, but I swear we already heard part of it. I mean, we knew quite some time ago that there was unused space with the download.
MOAR METROID CHARACTERS! Ridley! Kraid! A freakin Metroid!
I would like some cool characters like Professor Layton and King Rool. But to be honest I won't hold my breath anymore since Sakurai is very stern. If its not in the game already, that's probably because Sakurai DIDN'T want it! But on the other hand: DLC means money. And money makes the world go round. We'll see.
stage dlc. we have enough characters, but way too few stages. it has less than brawl and that's not cool
@MetaCrisisIrvin They need to let us have a option to turn off jump with the up D-pad.
@MetaCrisisIrvin They need to let us have a option to turn off jump with the up D-pad.
@audiobrainiac IT HAPPENED!! IT HAPPENNNED!!!!! YESSS
I know it's probably never going to happen but I still pray to God Miyamoto to make a Konami deal happen so we can have some Belmonts in Smash.
Like Simon Belmont, maybe with Richter and Trevor as alternate skins. Also, Alucard, with his huge variety of weapons and skills, would be another interesting inclusion.
A man can dream.
@RaphaBoss That's already an option. I turned mine off forever ago.
@GoshDangTravino damn thank you! Now the D-pad is usable LOL.
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