Nintendo has already revealed some of its plans for E3 2014, but if a new rumour is to be believed, it could be showing off more than just new software at this year's show.
In the latest episode of Nintendo Voice Chat, IGN editor Jose Otero reveals that a rumour is doing the rounds that Nintendo is going to show new hardware at the expo:
We've heard rumors that Nintendo might be showing hardware at E3.
IGN co-founder Peer Schneider responded by saying that he has heard the same news:
They're absolutely going to show new hardware this year. No doubt in my mind that something... 'Cause I've heard from multiple people now. I've heard from someone who used to be at Nintendo; I've heard it from somebody on the third-party front.
Outlandish speculation? Perhaps — the calm before the E3 storm tends to bring wild guesses out of the woodwork — but this actually ties in with rumours we've been hearing ourselves behind the scenes.
With this much chatter, it would seem likely that Nintendo has something new to show at E3, but what could it be? It's arguably much too soon for the company to consider replacing either the 3DS or Wii U, but we could see a redesign of either machine. Perhaps the much-hyped Quality of Life platform will be revealed and its hardware component shown off to the masses?
Your guess is as good as ours at this stage, so why not let us know your prediction by leaving a comment below?
UPDATE: Both Otero and Schneider have responded to the publication of news stories — not entirely unlike the one you've just read — and you can view Otero's statement below:
I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN. It's a conversation, and sometimes we get carried away. Peer did make the above argument, but we also framed the discussion around the context that we weren't sure. Unfortunately, the author made no effort to convey that in his news story. If we believed what we'd heard, you wouldn't have found out about it on another site. We would have run that story ourselves. Just food for thought. I don't blame anyone for running with it, but omitting that context from the story is pretty shady. Again, I get it. But I'm here to tell you the discussion wasn't as simple as "this is for real, guys!"
Schneider won't out-and-out deny the rumours, but instead insists that any hardware news won't steal the thunder of the 3DS and Wii U:
https://twitter.com/PeerIGN/statuses/461978173094125568
[source gamerevolution.com]
Comments (189)
Just as i've pre-ordered a Wii U, the thing may become past-gen. Hmmm
It is a 2nd Wii u controller that can be portable anywhere
A new version of Wii U which will allow greater portability of the Wii U GamePad. Perhaps turning the 3DS into the Wii U Gamepad? But this would require a massive firmware update. I would be in huge favour of this and have renewed faith in Iwata though.
It can't be an entirely new platform. 3DS still has another two or three years in it, I reckon. Plus killing off the Wii U is not going to happen. Especially with Mario Kart 8 due in a month.
The QoL platform. I hope it's not that. Unless it's 90% complete and they have everything to show for it. Not like the Wii U reveal please.
I think it'll be the Quality of Life thing as I really doubt it'll be a replacement for the Wii U (the console hasn't even been out for 2 years). I am concerned that this rumor could affect Wii U sales by people assuming it is a replacement though.
2DS XL? Or a VR Headset Killer (not necessarily another VR headset).
Edit:
Or a wired secondary gamepad which replaces the tv display for off-tv play along with the main gamepad.
1DS
It's not going to be a new console. My guess is something to fit their beyond games initiative.
Nintendo won't be stupid enough to already replace the Wii U, so I wouldn't worry if you've just bought/are about to buy a Wii U.
3DSi or Wii U Zapper
My guess is something to connect the 3ds to the wii u or something that incorporates both systems. Wouldn't mind a new 3ds lite either.
3ds can be played on Wii u and be compatable. They are gonna be like a cloud envirement, but how will that relate to its hardware. Hmmmmm. Now this is some hype.
Meh, that doesn't mean anything to me. I just want games, whatever hardware it comes on.
I don't think E3 is the place for the QOL stuff as it's not aimed at gamers. My guess is its a 3DS redesign or replacement. Sales are tanking hard this year and they need to do something. A replacement is not out of the question. The 3DS is already older than the GBA was when the DS got announced, and GBA was selling better at this point.
Must be the Quality of Life thing. I cant imagine them replacing the 3ds and Wii U so soon.
Wireless Smash Pro controller!!! xD
Hopefully a 3DS xl with higher build quality and nicer design (similar to normal 3DS with two circle pads.
In the unlikely event that this turns out to be true, I predict a reissue of the Wii U without a gamepad, or a super-tiny 3DS. It's unlikely that Nintendo would release a new home console, that would totally kill the Wii U brand, even though it's starring to pick up (slowly). Still, it's all speculation. Maybe they'll have their own android device?
Maybe a wii u lite though...
What is that quality-of-life thing. Anyway it, could also be a new controller to play gamecube games on it.( I could dream.) man i need to get some sleep
A portable WiiU gamepad that plays download games would be cool. Or a 3DS with a phone built in maybe.
New dual analog 3ds model or Wii U Gamepad slim.
@River3636
I would love that! It should be like the Super Game Boy or the game boy player for the GameCube. Some 3DS games could get patched to look better on the TV, as good as GameCube games too!
@ZenTurtle: So, how are Wii U games going to be played without a GamePad? Just a fraction of the "real" Wii U games that have been released would work.
@River3636
I would love that! It should be like the Super Game Boy or the game boy player for the GameCube. Some 3DS games could get patched to look better on the TV, as good as GameCube games too!
My guess is its QOL related, the revival of the Gameboy line of handhelds would be my shot in the dark guess which I hope happens.
@jariw
It's just speculation... I'm not saying that it will happen, just that it's likely. They may end up cutting the price in other ways, maybe by making the gamepad smaller?
i cant imagine nintendo announcing a totally new hardware. except for Quality of Life thing. the 3DS has at least 3 more years. it has a big install base and it is cheap to develop for 3DS so third parties want to make money with it.
i could imagine a new 3DS though. i am hoping for something in between the normal and the XL one with a second circlepad, better battery life and faster processing so miiverse etc. can be loaded faster. maybe i would even buy that.
It's the non-wearable thing! My guess is that it's a t-shirt you can play but not wear!
How about this? http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/05/01/nintendo-patents-handheld-with-swappable-buttons
Maybe a GBA "decade after its death" model, releasing in 2015 for the princely sum of £25/$30? That would be great- maybe we'd see the return of wired multiplayer and cartridges - not game "cards"!
It's much too early too early to replace the 3DS and the Wii U, especially the latter with Mario Kart 8 due in a month and Smash Bros. due later this year. It could be the QOL thing, but more likely than not it will either be a 3DS remodel (3DSi perhaps?) or a Wii U redesign which has a remodeled GamePad. Then again, this is just a rumor, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt.
I always loved playing gba on my gamecube . So why not do it on Wii u and market games where 3DS owners have to purchase a Wii U in order to play it like a Pokémon Wii u
Hds. You heard it here first folks
My question is if they do bring out a new home console how will the wii u owners react.
@Marshi http://www.thehds.com/ Nintendo is diving for treasure! Great way to get their profits up!
I have my doubts.
what if new hardware just means something like WiiFit Balance Board?
or this one thing they announced a few years ago for wii. where you put your finger in. i can't believe i forgot the name of that masterpiece!!
Get ready for the return of the Vitality Sensor.
@TOMBOY25 They CAN NOT bring in a new home console as Smash is Already set for Winter AFTER E3. Nobody would buy Smash if a new console got announced!
Or a wired secondary gamepad which replaces the tv display for off-tv play along with the main gamepad.
may be a Wii U or 3DS revision but its definitely not going to be a new console
2011: Nintendo 3DS
2012: Nintendo 3DS XL
2013: Nintendo 2DS
Oh jeez, I wonder what they're gonna release in 2014...
If true the clue is in the word 'new'. We will not get a new Wii u so my guess is a new 3ds. Bigger screen, improved graphics and the ability ......?
@wiierdguy Thats exactly what i want! but its quality of life thing..
I'd love a gameboy revival for the 25th anniversary. Single screen handheld with the buttons either side, like the GBA/PSP/Vita. Not gonna happen though
@zool
improved graphics? you can not improve graphics hardwarewise on an already exisiting platform. all 3DS games have to work on all 3DS-systems
Didn't Iwata say at the investor's meeting that the QOL platform would be revealed in 2014 and then released in in 2015?
What if they made Wii U+, a bigger, more expensive Wii u with ps4/xbone specs. The normal and plus versions would both run same games, just with different graphics, frame rate, resolution, etc. Like on PC, normal wiiu would have "medium 720p graphics" and wiiu plus would have "high 1080p graphics". It might attract more consumers and 3rd party developers.
I don't think it will be a new home console,with Mario cart 8 and smash Bros on the way for the Wii U. It will be bring out a new handheld while Pokemon X/Y was released.
Who knows maybe Nintendo has made a "power pack" for the Wii U to give a boost to RAM and an extra processor.
In my opinion, it's either a revision of the one of the consoles, a new peripheral along the lines of the Balance Board, Vitality Sensor or something to do with this whole Quality of Life thing.
For whatever reason, I'm not particularly excited to be honest. Interested; but not particularly excited.
That's a saddening thing for me to say.
@kletro wii u can alread run 1080p games, so does with 1080p so i doubt they will do something like that, if they do they might include a dvd/blu ray player as well as bigger memory but i doubt it, not worth it.
Then i think this might be something like the 2DS. but who knows, it might be just new accessories
@PvtOttobot But what if the new console is compatible with wii u titles.
My view on this is if they do announce a new console they can shove it.
I would like a new hardware iteration for the 3DS XL
Wii U Mini. No GamePad. Pro-controller. Bundled with Smash Bros for Christmas.
Not that I want it, but that is my guess.
@Guybrush20X6 I thought of a 3ds phone too. There could be a normal 3ds with a 3rd screen with android on the outside of the console.
The 3DS needs replacing STAT!
I mean, not even low end phones have 240p screens in 2014. Plus, it is the only platform that does not support major engines such as Unity and Unreal, meaning third-party support will be poor no matter the sales.
Plus, it is the reason why Nintendo do not have a unified account system, the 3DS. Is built for friend codes, and 128MB of RAM prevents Miiverse from functioning properly.
I hope it is a HD handheld with the power of the iPhone 5S at a reasonable price!
@TOMBOY25 I wouldn't buy the new console till it was less than £150 that's how I would react.
Probably redesigns of either the WiiU or the 2DS. The 2DS could get its XL counterpart. Most fantastic reveal ? A 2DS XL where you can seperate the two halves, leaving you with a GBA like bottom half for Emulated games (small firmware adjustments to change output screen) and a boost in VC lineup for it.
A WiiU redesign with expanded harddrive, since they are heavily focused on digital releases or its own brand of HDDs that can be attached to the console itself. An XS gamepad for the whiners.
@All the people expecting a new console or a hardware upgrade: You have no idea how console manufacturing works AND have no idea what makes a good game.
Tell me, are the two new "powerhouse" consoles really that superior ? In my opinon, its all bells and whistles. Graphics dont mean anything, the current lineup of games is simply embarassing.
@All the people wanting the gamepad to go away: Also, ridiculous. That thing is a major component of the console and the whole concept of it. Removing it, would make the system into "yet another boring console without identity and personality". I much prefer uniqueness over mainstream appeal any day.
im guessing if this is true ... (which im doubting since this news travels around the same way news would travel around in a high school hallway) it will be about the quality of life platform. it will be known as the nintendo "thing" the common person is already reffering to this as the "quality of life thing" anyway so the name will be instantly familiar and we'll automatically think about it when we hear.
@KevTastic84
They're not gonna announce a Wii U update just yet. A new version of the 3DS is much more likely.
Guys don't worry the Wii U will not be replaced, contrary to the media and their "Nintendo is Doomed" scenario, Nintendo knows they can turn Wii U's fortunes around, it's not too late, anyways if this rumor is to be true, I hope it's an added peripheral to the Wii U, or a compatibility between the Wii U and 3DS or something along this line, revealing some QOL thing out of the blue will confirm all this nasty things they say about Nintendo.
@ScorpionMG a lot of Wii u games are 720p. If they made this, they could compete with Sony and microsoft. With this, Nintendo fans didn't need another platform to play battlefield and gta
Maybe they will put an HD display on 3ds
I would't be surprised if it's a redesigned 3DS or the 3DS' successor.
VR? But then gamepad was useless.
@memoryman3 - This would make lots of sense. They wouldn't put anything out now that would compete with the launching and marketing of the new Wii U games.
@Peach64 The infamous E3 Wii Music reveal sure wasn't aimed at gamers either...
If this turns out to be true, which I personally doubt, then I can't imagine it'd be a totally new console or handheld. If it was I'm sure they'd be doing a live stage show presentation, not just the Nintendo Direct style video. Didn't Iwata say we probably wouldn't hear anything about QoL until 2015?
It would be about time for a Wii U Lite, wouldn't it?
It's true that the Game boy Advance was replaced right about the same time in it's life spam with DS, but I don't think this will happen for at least another year, I'm still rooting for some king of integration with the 2 hardware, or something that can somehow enhance the experience, anyways comparing the 3DS hardware to today's phones isn't reasonable, High end smartphone come 3 to 4 times the price of a 3ds.
A Wii U that sacrifices backwards compatibility for a lower price point and more internal memory. Sony did it...
it will not be a new platform. nintendo said their next gen console and handheld will be built of the same ground. so i think the next new platforms will be revealed very closely together and the wiiU will not be abandoned
I would say a hardware revision, but I sure hope they don't drop backward compatibility on either 3DS or Wii U.
If QoL has nothing to do with videogames, or traditional ones at least, I don't see the point in showing it at E3.
Both 3DS and Wii U redesigns make sense to me, though.
@6ch6ris6 so way a Wii u if Nintendo could have just improved Wii graphics. I guess a more powerful processor is needed.
I'm guessing a redesigned Wii U or a 3DS player for it so you can play all your DS and 3DS games on your tv
also maybe a 2DSXL
I would like a smaller GamePad but that's not gonna happen.
@allav866 But the Wii U's backwards compatibility isn't really an additional cost to Nintendo like the Wii's GC backwards compatibility was. Besides there's a ton of Wii software out there, so it'd still be a huge selling point for new buyers who've been on the fence about upgrading.
i just read in Gamespot that some say the supposedly new hardware is the successor to Wii U, now I know that's crap, but Nintendo has said they will not comment to these rumors, God it's like some people really are trying to damage Nintendo and these guys don't get it, right before the MK8 release and new bundle a rumor of the Wii u being replaced by its successor can have negative impact on sales, and yet Nintendo won't comment.
@zool i can not understand your sentence
IF this is true, which is a big 'if', it's worth reminding the chattering masses that hardware does not mean the same things as platform. The Wii U and the 3DS are not being retired yet.
Either Nintendophone or Gameboy 3DHD. Whoosh!
maybe it's a Wii U XL! OMG I FOUND IT!
As i recall, Peer Schneider predicted that by the end of the year, Nintendo would make a new console so I'm taking his statement with a grain of salt.
EDIT: Oh wait he said hardware? he also predicted that Nintendo would make a 3DS that fixes the legacy issues of the console. Sounds like what would happen at E3.
Virtual reality maybe? It better not be something to replace the Wii U or I'm getting a PS4.
@Einherjar Maybe it's you that has no idea what it takes to manufacture a console if all you think the other 2 has is bells and whistles. That type of development takes years to do. Just like the Wii U has. No one here should be expecting a new console this early. Maybe in another 6 years or so. Not now though.
A Wii U upgrade I hope which gives my already owned Wii U more power.
I highly doubt they will since they don't intend to hold a conference
Either an add on or a new 3DS model are my guesses.
They have re-invented the wheel......
I hope it's something like the 32X that attaches to the Wii U and makes it more powerful.
@memoryman3
I thought unity or unreal was announced for 3ds... Correct me if I'm wrong?
If Nintendo has a brain they will drop the Wii U to a hundred bucks, get rid of the touch screen controller entirely, and do an update that allows all games to be played with a basic controller to ensure the cheap purchasers have no issues running games without the screen one.
They've repurposed all of those unsold Virtual Boys that got kicked back to them after Gunpei's estate sale and turned them into VR devices that we are all going to LOVE.
I hope we get a 3DS player in the style of the Game Boy Player for Gamecube, and a 3ds hardware revision which improves its graphical quality and processor. Games could be designed for it, but would retain backwards compatibility with older machines, like the black Game Boy Color carts could be played on monochrome Gameboys
Even if it is a 3DS successor, the gen just saturated. It's not okay to have a console/handheld successor out after 2/3 years of the other consoles. It would be cool to see a 3DS revamp tho, like the DS Lite to DSi transition.
EDIT: It could be like a VR headset or a 2DS XL when I think about it.
Honestly, I'd like a Nintendo branded HDD for the U. Surely they are not fond of having outside hardware attached to their console and it's pretty much a necessity in this wondrous digital age we live in.
3DS XL HD
Wii U VR Headset?
Wii U 2 / Wii U Lite
Release date: December 2015
If they release any new hardware it will be the 2DS XL. It would be cool to see a 3DS XL with a higher screen resolution but I don't think that's going to happen.
I don't think E3 would be the right venue for the QoL thing... that seems more like a CES thing, maybe? It does seem early to outright replace either the Wii U or 3DS, but maybe something along the lines of those Fusion rumors we heard last year, launched as a '3rd pillar' alongside the current line up? I would love to see that...
(someone else had mentioned earlier that GBA was younger than the 3DS currently is when DS was announced, but it was also stated to not be a replacement, and was originally supposed to be a 3rd pillar alongside the GameBoy line...)
Quality of Life, a new 3DS model, or both
Vitality Sensor U!
New Wii U hardware ?
How about a Circle Pad Pro U for 3dsXL which is designed for streaming live 2D or 3D content to the 3DS from the WiiU. It would probably have its own inbuilt wifi streaming hardware and plug in through the game cartridge port.
Nice if it happened and supported up to four 3ds at once from a WiiU..
I'm pretty sure Iawata said they'd show off the QOL device at E3. It's coming out in April 2015. That means it has to be shown off at E3.
New hardware corks be something that goes with the 3ds ie the wii u, it doesn't have to replace them.
Quality of Life was just announced relax it's not coming
I agree with most people here that it's likely to be the QoL thing.
If it's a new Home Console, that would be soooo lame. I'm loving my WiiU, and what games it has are AMAZING. I don't see why they aren't selling.
Hope the new thing turns out well
Mark my words, there's no way the Wii U or 3DS are getting replaced so soon. No way. Chances are I'm more willing to bet it's either a hardware revision for the Wii U, or the unveiling of the QoL platform they were talking up much earlier this year. If they were to unveil a whole new console right now they would risk alienating their already-impatient Wii U install base with Mario Kart 8 soon and Smash Bros. (in addition to Bayo 2, X and Zelda U in the distance, among others) on the way. I'd be happy to see Nintendo step up to the plate with a console with what some would consider "true" next-gen graphics but maybe talk that up another year or two from now.
I don't know why people get so excited. New Nintendo hardware at E3 is likely a revised controller, a new peripheral, or some kind of minor redesign. This event is almost certainly too early to present a replacement console - although who knows what might be shown behind closed doors.
The fact that people are excited or interested in watching Nintendo's presentation, even if it's false hope for a new piece of hardware, is a good thing.
If it's new hardware, its just gonna be a new model of 3DS. They'd be foolish to try anything else. The QOL thing will be completely aimed at casuals and sounds like it won't have much to do with gaming, and so i doubt it gets announced at E3. If it does and they spend more than two minutes on it, it will only further the notion that Nintendo has completely lost touch with the core gamer demographic.
Or it's nothing. Just a thought
Whoa, people! New hardware doesn't technically mean new video game hardware! XD
I wonder if this has something to do with that speculative piece I read yesterday regarding a Nintendo 3DS patent with changeable buttons a la Project Ara... Still, I wouldn't get too hyped until E3 time. Iwata better have something off the meters, though, since his butt's on the line with Nintendo investors/shareholders.
@MrKenta - Exactly. Nintned likes handheld upgrades.
Been saying for moths 3DS was due for an upgrade, next March will be 4 years so a reveal at this E3 means a release next March - 3DU - it won't play Wii U games but will work as a 2nd controller and allow you to play 3DS games on the Wii U ie tv screen.
And as insane as I am, no Wii U upgrade, the Wii U is already getting an upgrade, look at the MK8 bundle the US is getting, replacing Nintnedo Land and or Mario, that's the upgrade Wii U is getting, it doesn't need a hardware fix.
Im thinking this rumor is full of hot air. If it was true, then most likely it's a 2DS XL
@HappyHappyist it isn't selling for various reasons. Great first party games are only one reason out of many that people buy consoles. Nintendo nails 1st party games, but WiiU is deficient in just about every other major category consumers want in a new console:
High Powered Graphics
Robust Online Features
Third Party Support
All three of those are just as important to gamers today as 1st party games (sometimes even more so). The WiiU is severely lacking in those departments when compared to its competition. And it's not like WiiU is the only console with good 1st party games either. PS4 will have great ones in stuff like Uncharted, God of War and LBP. Xbox has Halo, Fable and Gears (not my taste, but they clearly have a decent sized audience).
The biggest complaints i hear from gamers that dont own WiiU is that it has a terrible online, and that it has no third party games. Whenever i say "yeah but the games it does have are some of the best out there," they don't disagree, they just tell me the other factors are more important to them.
If this is true, I would say they will show a game that supports dual gamepads. And of course that would mean gamepad selling. Possibly a slimmer design. With the 8 hour battery.
@TreesenHauser 3DS might be due for an upgrade this year, the average lifespan of handhelds these days is THREE YEARS due to rapidly evolving tech and smartphone competition. The DS was built for a time when smartphones were extremely rare (there weren't any) as opposed to 3DS being outclassed in power to 2010's iPod Touch.....
The wiiu is allready past gen, it would be wise to show us a machine wich has the horsepower to run modern games.
Hardware Could Mean A New Handheld For 2016 Or Something, Maybe, Hopefully
@Damo I honestly think the QOL will be way less gaming focused than the Wii ever was. Wii music was still an entertainment product, and I'm not sure this will be. I work with QOL questionnaires and all I can see are Wii Fit and Brain Age type apps. There will be a whole bunch of tests, warnings to go to the doctor if it detects you're depressed or unwell in any way. I'd be shocked if they brought something like that to E3.
If something's in the air it's for the handheld space, that's their money maker. 2015 is a good year to roll out a fresh portable game device.
3DS has run its course very soon I do believe. It never needed to be a long running generation being a 'souped-up' DS, and if it indeed turns out to be a shorter life cycle than the DS then I won't be surprised one ounce.
@defrb it is not past gen. Power does not define a generation. Because I may befaster/stronger than you, are you past gen to me? face facts, a generation is a TIME span.
I believe it's going to be an upgrade, or revision of the 3ds, since Nintendo just patented a handheld system with swappable buttons. Though It could be a new handheld system all together. Putting that information aside, I would really like a Wii U lite or something, that'll be cool I guess.
If anything is going to happen, it would be a revision to the 3DS. It wouldn't make sense to release an updated model of the Wii U, given that the Mario Kart bundle is coming out 2 weeks before E3.
Perhaps it'll just be new model of the Wii U or 3DS. I seriously doubt they'd make a new console that plays games the Wii U and 3DS can't this early on.
@Rafie I never said that I expected a new console and the "bells and whistles" thing was in regards to the new consoles "computing power =/= good games"
Their current line up consists mostly of games also found on last gen consoles, they dont differ that greatly and their exclusives are mediocre at best.
Most people seem to think that better hardware automatically produces better games and so think that the WiiU needs lots and lots more compuing power.
The fact that the WiiU delivered the best 1st party software currently gets silently shoved to the sidelines.
The gap between the current gen and last gen is almost non existant. Yes, a few more polygons here and there and a hint of pyrotechnics on top but thats it.
I still want my Nintendo Fusion. I would love it if they combine both hardware that way they can still sell 3DS + Wii U games and hardware. But that would mean no performance upgrade. Not that I really want one, just look at MK8, DKCTF, SM3DW and Smash and tell me they're ugly.
And I want a 8-12hr, slimmed down GamePad. 3DS is fine as it is (Love the XL <3)
@Unca_Lz sooner or later it inevitably will come to pass. And if I had to choose between Nintendo surprising us with new hardware or Nintendo releasing something as its about due based on past generation timelines, I'm going with the surprise occasion for a number of outside and inside the company reasons
Sounds like another baseless rumor to me
Wii U CONTROLLER PERIPHERALS FOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE. NES SNES N64 GAMECUBE CONTROLLERS.
I bet its simply a WiiU with a larger HDD.
@AyeHaley
That would be pretty cool, but I think the hardware of the Wii U and 3DS are too far apart for them to connect smoothly. You may be on to something for the next gen though, since I do recall Nintendo saying that whatever comes next, both handheld and home console will run on the same interface... I think its an amazing idea to mix both!
@memoryman3 I won't argue that, the only reason I failed to mention it is because the 2DS was out last year and the XL the year before. Plus, more than ever Nintendo needs to give people reasons to buy a Wii U. You do have a point though.
I'm not buying it right now. It wouldn't be outlandish for them to announce a new portable to be released in a couple of years, but I'm hoping their next platform is an unified home console / handheld platform - it seems the next logical step to the game pad concept, and it would focus their effort and appeal to all of their consumers. If that is indeed the case, it would obviously be a replacement to both 3DS and Wii U, and I don't think they're gonna pull a Dreamcast and replace the Wii U so soon.
Was there not a lot of talk a month or so ago about them entering the mobile-phone market? Maybe it's a new portable gaming system which doubles up as a phone?
@Marshi HDS is the same always give it
could be the tablet that was rumored
Oh boy, more baseless rumors. : /
Anyways if it is real, I expect it to be nothing more than that quality of life thing they've been teasing lately.
I would love a WiiU replacement where they upped the graphics to maybe not match the ps4 but make it powerful enough to run the newer 3rd party engines....and maybe do a free swap for the ambassadors.....not saying that is what will happen but that would be my dream scenario
There is no press conference so if it is anything, it is minor, something that most of us probably will never use.
@mostro328
That would kind of defeat the purpose to upgrade the system as the other systems are already out. if they "upgrade" it to still being weaker than the other systems, then those 3rd party will still drop off because people will still want the "powerful" consoles and not the weak one. If they do an upgrade, it should be at least to equivalent of the Xone or PS4. Never less as the primary reasons for a lot of companies bailing is because it is "not powerful enough"
my guess it could be a Wii u controller that can be portable anywhere and have more cpu and more ram built in it to match up with the ps4 and xbox 1so that the wii u is got the same power or more
First of all, IGN people. They hate Nintendo. They are trolling all of you.
If it is going to be any kind of hardware, it's going to be an accessory. Or a 2nd WiiU gamepad.
Or the Nontendo 4DS, which they previewed in Rusty's Real Deal Baseball.
3DSU
New 3DS which can stream wii u games to a 3DS BAM!!
@Einherjar "their exclusives are mediocre at best"
That's subjective. Even though I agree with you to an extent, I know many people who happen to love the "next" generation games.
"The gap between the current gen and last gen is almost non existant. Yes, a few more polygons here and there and a hint of pyrotechnics on top but thats it"
Meh, I don't really care for the graphics part, but I consider the leap to be bigger that what some people think. Sure it didn't make a huge leap, but a good one nonetheless. When I look at both present generation, and last generation (PS4, PS3) I see that the PS4 offers more than the PS3 did. I say that because of all of the social features Sony Integrated into their systems, and all of the things I could do on the PS4 that I couldn't do on the PS3. I don't just look at the visual upgrades, but everything overall. I can't speak about the Xbox family though.
I do understand your point though, better hardware does not equal better games. Nintendo is the perfect example of that.
Perhaps it's that Vitality Sensor from several years back.
If it wasn't for the 'non wearable QOL' thing, I'd like to think new hard wear was the boomerang brothers shell from SM3DW.
Admit it- you'd buy it.
WiiU with a much bigger hard drive....
If this rumor is true then it's likely one of these:
Hopefully it's not one of these:
Other than those I'm not really sure, Nintendo could surprise us so we'll see.
Probably just a cheaper edition of Wii U or 3DS. I wouldn't think much of it tbh.
JUST SHOW ME THE DAMN GAMES!!!
The Wii Please U(nderstand).
I doubt that they will show hardware because if they do then Nintendo will be making the same mistake that Sega did.
My god... My god! XP
@Imagamerboi
Well said.
Honestly, I'd be surprised if they didn't announce some sort of QoL hardware. They already said it was going to be a separate platform from their existing hardware, and they wouldn't have announced its existence if they didn't have something to show fairly soon after.
If they do show new hardware it isn't necessarily going to be a new console or hand held. We will all know in six weeks.
To echo what everyone else seems to be guessing, it would be absolutely moronic if it's going to be the next console, following Wii U. Nintendo aren't stupid enough to pull a SEGA Saturn with the Wii U.
It's gotta be the Quality of Life thingamajig. They've been on about that here and there since January. It only makes sense to bring more details by E3.
@bizcuthammer
Well first, the only reason Nintendo would consider a console with more power would be to tailor to 3rd party games, as first party games are already working pretty well on the WiiU, I understand why Nintendo didn't really push the console in terms of power, just look at the game Sales on the Wii, and you can see why, the highest selling games on the console were either first party or 3rd party games like Just dance/ Lego games/ Zumba/ Skylanders.. top AAA action games like call of duty or Assassin's Creed never sold huge numbers on Nintendo consoles, at least when comparing the sales to PlayStation and Xbox that is. Electronic Arts best selling game wasn't Battlefield or FIFA on Wii it was sims. does sims need powerful graphics?
but as far as online features go, I agree with you. but there is no need for a new console, Nintendo just has to get more creative and add better interface and more enhanced usability in the next software updates, something I hope really happens,
Hopefully it's something that will make the Wii U sell better. It would be cool to get Madden every year again and of course NBA2K.
Bought a Wii U just yesterday. But I doubt Nintendo would do anything to mess with me. Right?
I think it's safe to say that they won't kill the Wii U at e3 by announcing a successor when they've got so many unreleased games to come.
It's probably a 64GB Wii U
By now, most people have seen the Nintendo patten that was released this week that looked like a handheld with interchangeable pieces like d pads or analog sticks. It could be a 3DS with those capabilities. That would bring a resurgence in Kid Icarus Uprising.
Remember, we have also been promised the ability to use two game pads. We have yet to see this so it could be something along those lines. I cannot imagine it being any more than that.
By now, most people have seen the Nintendo patten that was released this week that looked like a handheld with interchangeable pieces like d pads or analog sticks. It could be a 3DS with those capabilities. That would bring a resurgence in Kid Icarus Uprising.
Remember, we have also been promised the ability to use two game pads. We have yet to see this so it could be something along those lines. I cannot imagine it being any more than that.
Maybe they'll reveal that second circle pad 3DS ya'll are always harping about. /sarcasm
What's with all these people asking for a Wii U that can handle 1080p? Um, hello?!
@MAB count me in if that's the case lol. I'd definitely get it since my 3ds is over 3 years old now and I want Smash on a fresh handheld.
I truly dislike today's mainstream gamer attitude towards Nintendo. It is so shallow, ignorant and close minded.
Gamers should embrace unique consoles and gaming experiences. Playing with the gamepad is a joy to those that love video games and don't have to pretend to be ultra-adult all the time, whatever that even means.
I love the Wii U and it's gamepad. We will look back and the mainstream will appreciate it 10 years after the fact, just like everyone did with Windwaker.
3D Wii U
@River3636 That would be exactly what I would want. Only digital the whole thing built in to the gamepad. No issues with TV latency.
@BossBattles I don't understand that about Windwaker (I only played it once and pre ordered it). Played the Master Quest loads of times however that bonus disk was the only reason I wasn't really annoyed.
all i can say is if nintendo dont show anything at e3 they will allways be here when sony and xbox fade into the night nintendo is here for many many years to come with new idears peace
A spokesman for Nintendo of UK had already confirmed that Nintendo will not be showing any new hardware at E3 or ND this year so yeah the rumors are false.
I have been thinking that since the wii u came out
@BinaryFragger And to be fair, most rumors are false anyway
Some stupid QoL thing that you can already get for your smartphone etc. Nothing new. Nintendo wastes resources on junk like this when they should be a) making new breakout U games, not just sequels to Mario, and b) designing a new dominant console for release at Christmas 2015. ... Nintendo used to have the most creative and breakthrough games, now its nothing but this "family" stuff on reboot. Family games are fine too, but isn't it time to respond to market pressures?
@Excep7ional But to be honest, the social media integration is nothing that couldnt be done on last generation tech. Sure, youre right that it is a nice addition if you happen to like stuff like that (i frankly hate social media stuff, but thats besides the point) but it is by no means thanks to the new hardware.
Every gen before produced an exceptional leap in technology that was both seeable and noticable.
With the current gen systems, the leap is, like i said, barely there.
Just look at the last couple of generations:
PS1/N64 brought games to the 3rd dimension, PS2/Xbox/GC got rid of blocky visuals and upped the ante content wise through the use of the then new DVD medium, PS3, X360 brought the new HD spec into the game, made physics calculation more manageable and overall, upped the quality of games through processing power.
Now, you have even more power under the hood. And what is it used for ? Nothing, nothing at all. Yes, games look nicer, but thats it. It isnt used to integrate more complex AI scripts, to truly realize "moral gameplay" beyond the "black and white" decision making by generating scenarios on the fly through user input. No, its all used for flashy graphics while the core games remain exactly the same.
But dont get me wrong, im not an "anti next gen" person, i just dont understand the hype that its crating and why people moan about the WiiU using tried and true technology. Games didnt benefit at all from the current gens computing power and the current WiiU lineup is among the best out there.
Thats why i said its all "bells and whistles". People are praising things just because they are new and shiny, not because they are actually beneficial to the games.
@BinaryFragger
Yeah, I betcha Nintendo was going to show it at E3 had someone not spill the beans.
cool
It'll probably be the 3DS we've actually been waiting for... even longer battery life, wider viewing angles when 3DS is on, and most of all, the most desired feature of all... a 2nd circle pad on the right side. It'll probably be called the 3DS Pro.
@Einherjar You make a good point, but I guess it's how you look at it. The social media stuff (personally, I hate it too. When I mention the social stuff I was talking about the streaming, sharing game footage, etc with friends.) was integrated into the systems, even if the hardware didn't really have anything to do with it, it's still an addition that wasn't with the last generation.
All that stuff you are saying about having all of that power to only increase graphics is true though so I can't argue there. Pretty much all flash and no substance kind of. Since it's still early, things might change in the future though - at least, that's what I'm hoping. Actually using that power to increase gameplay instead of graphics would be great.
@Excep7ional Seeing how narrow minded some devs / publishers are becoming, my hope is pretty slim. The thing is, if you have a new generation of consoles, you want to brag about what you can do with it. Other launch titles could do that too, why not this gen ? Or at least tease upcomming revolutionary projects. Nope, its all CoD and AC or ACs new sibling, the "climbing on buildings simulator - hacker dude edition"
I hopes for something more. They always talk about the (in)famous cloud computing power. How about collecting meta data from other players and turning this into AI scripts on the fly ? You suddenly would have mobs that arent bound to their preprogrammed routines, but would use strategys and behaviour based on other players reactions.
Or look at the next gen Batman Arkham game: "We have so much power, we can make a batmobile hurr durr"
How about a living, breathing city instead ? How about randomly generated robberys, kidnappings and other shenanigans on the fly ? That much computing power can handle the calculations. The player mainly focuses on main missions and neglects the random hoodlums ? Let the city be overrun by them, since they "feel" that the batman doesnt care. The player taking good care of them ? The main missions will differ, because the villians will now how and when the batman strikes.
No, we will stick to the usual routines and just make the games prettier. It is worth it, look at all the polygons man !
This generation created so much false expectations. Thats why i think the step nintendo took in staying with tried and true tech was bold and worth it. You know whats on the table, both the consumer and developer.
Production costs and time are streamlined and predictable. Pricing is consumer friendly etc. Its not a giant leap. but it never promised to be one.
@TOMBOY25
Showing new hardware means nothing to owners of Wii U since it takes around 2 years for any new hardware to actually come out on sale. In two years there won't be any support left for the system other than indies.
Hahahaha! LOL! Wow, I can't believe nintendo life posted an article that even IGN wouldn't post (I know corp workers there, they are told to post anything that resembles news! They actually DIDNT post this so, I can only surmise that this site was desperate for news...) Kinda ran into this by accident on a search. I actually stopped reading the forums, I know the majority of you do too (unless it's to brag about when and how little you paid for a game, or just to poo poo the Wii U.) I believe this site will be just as bad, if not worse than IGN in the coming years... I used to love this site.
Nintendo, don't you dare pull a Sega!
LOL, post #200!
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