Mere hours ago it was revealed by Shoryuken that Nintendo was, for some unknown, likely inane reason or another, blocking a stream of 2001 Gamecube title Super Smash Bros. Melee from the EVO 2013 fighting game tournament in Las Vegas this month.
Well, scratch that: After a flurry of Internet outrage, the stream is back on. Shoryuken is now reporting that Nintendo has reversed its decision and is allowing the fighter to rejoin the online fray. The original tournament schedule will be restored for this weekend's events.
This is good news for the title's community, as they managed to get their game in the tournament in the first place after a hard-fought Internet campaign yielding donations upwards of $95,000 to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation.
We've reached out to Nintendo for clarification on what led to these decisions and will update as and when we receive one.
[source shoryuken.com]
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Excellent.
Now hopefully everything can go back to normal...
Ha, perfect pic for this.
And so the hour long protest will forever go down in history...
Uh, all's well that ends well I guess?
So when does Operation Smashfall (Meleefall?) step up to take credit for this? :3
I saw that there was a #freemelee hash-tag made up. I don't know much about hash-tags, however it could be just for this...
didn't dodge the bullet, it hit them they said "This hurts let's have a do over" then retracted their statement.
Good to hear.
@squirrelguys
They are still waiting on an official comment. We really don't know that they "retracted their statement", as it could be a misunderstanding of what EVO is or what the charity was for or how it was supported. With how fast this blew up, it could have just been as fast as:
(Time Clock: 14:25 pst) Nintendo: Sorry, we would not like to have our game featured.
(Time Clock: 14:25 pst) Shoryuken: What? Bashing Nintendo EVERYWHERE
(Time Clock: 14:26 pst) Internet: NINTENDO, WE HATE YOU.
(Time Clock: 14:28 pst) Nintendo: Wait... How is the IP being used? I think we can work with this...
see i knew that Nintendo hears to the fans many say that Nintendo goes its own way but that not true it just has its own way of doing what Sony does.(no Microsoft because im still mad my internet explorer not working. p.s been 3 months sense i told them.)
Does EVO make money off of this stream? If so, I have no problem with Nintendo's initial decision. However, I realize a lot of people do not understand that making money off something that isn't yours is not cool, so this reversal is ok with me as well, either way.
@Prof_Elvin_Gadd
I don't know about EVO making money, but why should that matter? Nintendo should have the right to refuse for just the reason that they just don't want to. I am glad that they don't, but still... The idea that they should be bullied into accepting something just because "the fans demand it" is a very bad idea...
Smart move.
My bestfriend, Kevin Toy (PewPewU) helped raised that money and is competing in the Evo Tournament. Beep Poop!
Well done Nintendo. They were going to cop my disdain via Miiverse but thankfully common sense has prevailed!
I'll laugh my butt off if the reason they initially wanted the stream of Melee canceled is because they wanted gamers at the event to participate in a surprise introduction of Smash 4 for Wii U at EVO instead. Like, a pre-final build of the game for people to test out and enjoy for a while to spread awareness of the game amongst the rest of the fighting game community.
But then, because of people wanting more Melee instead, they retracted their decision and are now keeping Smash 4 all to themselves until launch.
@smashbrolink
Sounds like something that would come out years later like the article about M$ thinking that they owned Donkey Kong...
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/microsoft_execs_thought_they_owned_donkey_kong_after_acquiring_rare#comment1743997
Depends who they asked and how they asked it.
It reminds me of failed kickstarters where people try to raise money to make an unlicensed sequel to a popular game or book, and maybe Nintendo's lawyers said no, but when Nintendo management found out for themselves all the details, they gave the go ahead.
Thank you, Nintendo, for not being complete and utter morons.
shoryken website down
@Jon I seriously hope that the initial paragraph wasn't in your own views and just made to play off the actual speaker otherwise, that was an extremely biased and unprofessional way of writing the article. You may want to make it clearer regardless of which direction you're taking it.
What a roller coaster today was. Nice one Ninty~
@Ernest_The_Crab That's my view. I'm sticking to it.
Not surprising.
Talk about the ups and downs of the gaming world in a blink of an eye. I'm still left wondering what just happen (came online only 5 mins ago).
Funny Nintendo. You seem to REALLY like being funny.
Now will you please reverse your stance on region-lock? Then perhaps you won't get as much hate from your fans.
wow, the know-it-alls are out tonight. This isn't the New York Times folks it's "Nintendo Life". It's good N info with a bit of familiar fun, I kind of doubt future generations will be unearthing the updates here to study 21st century human history. There's no law against editorializing your articles, big media does it constantly.
See, just a misunderstanding...
@smashbrolink Hopefully that's what happened, it would teach internet complainers a thing or two...
Thankyou for listening Nintendo!
I'm going to assume that Nintendo didn't realise the money raised to get Melee in was going to charity before this. One they got the message they changed their minds. Thank you to the gamers who rationally explained it to Nintendo.
@Jumpman It is quite the record...since they normally don't post this late anyways. Quite peculiar.
@LordGeovanni That's true. The product belongs to Nintendo, so they can do whatever they want with it. The breast cancer charity was a good cause, but it still doesn't shift any property rights away from Nintendo or anything.
In the copyright disclaimer of every game it is writen, that you may not publicly display, show or otherwise use the game. It is for home use only, so yeah, Nintendo wasnt wrong when they said no. But to be honest, i also think that all of this was a great misunderstanding or else they wouldnt have changed their minds so quickly.
No other publisher has ever had a problem with their game being displayed before at EVO. In fact publishers usually the event to show off/announce new fighting games, characters, etc. In fact it's a shame they aren't using the event to show off a new character.
So what exactly is this tournament? People playing fighting/action games for charity? Sounds like a good cause.
Unlame
I love it when a corporations initial response to anything is "no"... until someone with a brain stops and thinks about the bad pub for a second. I love ya Nintendo, but sometimes I wonder if there isn't a stubborn grumpy old man making the decisions.
Wonder if originally Nintendo saying No, was more a case of Nintendo not saying Yes and people jumping the gun before Nintendo decided.. Maybe Nintendo even got quoted out context by saying No decision yet or Not at this time or something.
Or Maybe they did say No all along and change now thier minds. So many Attack Nintendo articles around , most of which are over exagerated or unfounded its hard to tell the ligitimate negative Nintendo news from the trash reporting.
Seems like just part of that whole thing where Nintendo is trying to monetize/block video game streams... that supposedly they're trying to reverse now. Probably the initial response was a robo-call after their crawler found the words Smash Bros. and live stream.
"Wonder if originally Nintendo saying No, was more a case of Nintendo not saying Yes"
I feel stupider for reading this. Please stop...
@Doma
Why do you feel stupider reading that comment? It sounds reasonable.
@ChaosAngel Nintendo intervened in the first place, didn't they?
@Doma: i don't think we're entirely sure — the way they'd said it before over at Shoryuken, it sounded like they had reached out for permission and had been denied it by Nintendo, not that Nintendo had found out what EVO wanted to do and stepped in on their own to shut it down. either way, hopefully someone from Nintendo will be able to clarify everything for us soon so that I can go back to not caring :3
I don't think this game should be in the competition (Or anything that is not going to be running on proper Arcade hardware - i.e Tatio Type X/X+/X2 etc etc). Unless Nintendo provide them with a Triforce version.
@theblackdragon What I think happened is they saw that they were getting money from the stream & didn't realize it was a charity, & then reversed their decision. They need to think before they make these decisions instead of reversing them.
@VincentV: Assume what you please, but don't expect me to agree with you without corroboration straight from the horse's mouth :3
Nintendo wanted to block Smash even being part of EVO, not just the streaming of it. So no misunderstanding, no surprise to actually let them play Smash Bros U (although I don't any competitve player would even want that), just Nintendo throwing their weight around like any other out of touch corporation.
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-wanted-smash-bros-pulled-from-worlds-biggest-740918828
Also, I think people are focusing on the charity side of this too much. They are not making money off the stream. They wanted to decide the new game to be added to the event, so they held a vote, but you could only vote if you donated to the charity first. That's it.
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