Shin Megami Tensei IV Will Have Some DLC Available At Launch

well at least its free for the first month. ive got a major problem with games releasing with DLC tho. fair enough a few month down the line to freshen the game up but games should be complete upon realease!

$2 for a map pack and an exclusive demon sounds fantastic! I figured by map pack they meant...well, maps...

@Big_L91 Remember that this game is already out in Japan, so it's not necessarily releasing with DLC. It could have over there, but I'm not sure and I don't feel like doing the research. I do enough of that for school.

@Big_L91 You know a lot of "Day One DLC" are made during the months between when the game is "done" and its final release date, right?

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/bethesda-defends-day-one-dlc-6406719

Probably will get the download if I decide to get this game.

Really excited for this game I love the SMT game but have only played the side series so far, Strange Journey and Devil Survivor/Overclocked.

Going to get this game definitely! DLC sounds cool especially if its free in the first month, awarding the early adopters! The 400 demons roster is what gets me really excited although I hope there is a fusion search function!

I didn't buy any DLC for fire emblem (my best 3ds game) so naturally I won't give a ... about this one. DLC is nothing but a rip off

Bad news. Crappy dlc are finally here, in Nintendo world.

I bought two Fire Emblem packs. What a freakin' rip off. 2€ for just a map? I expected them to be better (obvious, I wouldn't have bought them if I had thought they are not worthy).

The same can be said about NSMB2 dlc. Expensive for what it is. In this case I just got the freebie.

What's next? 4€ for a stage in Smash Bros? 5€ for a character? Nintendo, this is not the way to go. DLCs are okay, just price them properly and don't sell anything important (if I have to buy characters for Mario Kart or Smash Bros, somebody is getting hurt...).

I really enjoyed the Fire Emblem dlc. Some maps are better than others, but it's still good.

@DarkCoolEdge Oh woe is you. I take it without those 2 Euros, you'll have to go with one less cup of coffee in your day? That must be horrible...so sad...

Seriously, if you're gonna say that's too much when there's $15+ map packs out there, you won't get any sympathy from me.

And don't sell anything important? That's not how DLC is supposed to work. $5 for a character in Super Smash Bros. would be a steal in my book. In fact, Nintendo better add more characters via DLC, or it'll be a complete missed opportunity. And don't try to say "everything should be in the game in the first place" because they have to eventually stop making content so they can actually make money. You know how many hours adding a new character would take? All the constant tweaks throughout the entire game? That's genuine effort put into the stuff, and I'd rather they give us a good amount of characters right away and add more stuff later, so I can have something to play now, so the Wii U will have something important to play NOW, than to have to wait an extra year for them to include all that stuff with the full game. That would be an entire year of potential sales lost, and an extra year of costs that will be even more difficult to make back without DLC. Do you understand? It would actually be GOOD for them to release DLC, especially important DLC like characters - good for Nintendo and good for us. We'll have plenty to play now, and reasons to play later, while Nintendo gets more money. It's Win freakin' Win.

Figures all the games I wanna play get sullied with DLC BS.

Soon were gonna go the Neptunia atelier whatever route and every equipment worth mentioning in the game is dlc and ingame exp and money are buyable.

@expa0 You know you don't HAVE TO buy the DLC right? In fact, in this case, unless you're a newbie (or a collector, I didn't forget about the demon) it might actually be detrimental to your experience to get the map DLC and the armour since it would make the game easier. However, they have given the OPTION to make the game easier for those who would be turned off by the difficulty level.

And yes there are probably people who wouldn't be able to beat the game on easy mode, you cannot assume that everyone has the same skill level in regards to games or time for that matter.

I heard about this. I think it's stupid.

Has Atlus commented on whether SMTIV's eShop price will be lower than the physical release?

@CanisWolfred
Not to creep, but you seem to be a pretty passionate, or at least knowledgeable, SMT fan. Between this and Soul Hackers, which would you recommend as an introduction for someone new to the series?

@Inev I don't think they've said one way or the other about the eShop price yet, unfortunately. Looks like it'll be a surprise.

As for SMT, it sounds like SMTIV helps you learn the game with its tutorials, but is still quite difficult, at least that's what Famitsu has said. Soul Hackers, on the otherhand is simpler, so there's less to learn, but also less that it teaches you. I think SMTIV also has more features that make demon fusion easier, and there's no loyalty system as far as I know. It's looking like SMT IV might be the way to go for newcomers. Soul Hackers is definitely for the existing fans, though for a Dungeon Crawler, it's relatively forgiving. I'd recommend both in the end, but if you had to buy one first, I think it'd be smarter to get the one with the included strategy guide (SMTIV) on day one, then get Soul Hackers a little later.

Free hairstyle DLC - because I'm worth it

This just doesn't get any better. I'd get the free hairstyle, but not anything (exp boost/strong basic demons) that would alter the original gameplay experience/difficulty of the game.

Why not in the game at Launch! Don't be so mean to consumers Atlus!

I'd be glad to pick up a copy (like other SMT titles) when it's realeased in Europe (hopefully). I hope SMTIV comes out in Q3 2013 as well.

As for the free DLC, I'm glad games still offer some free extras like this. I can understand the need for more exclusive stuff, but unless I really like the DLC, I'm not buying.

Since Mirror of Fate my I haven't played my 3DS. I look forward to this and other jrpg localizations (in fact they are the only games I look forward for 3DS due to the legacy from DS) but, as usual, they are not published at all or are published very late in Europe to the point where the interest and the hype is somewhat lost.

Still the status of the release date in Europe is vague. I don't see it coming in Summer 2013 as promised. This is 2013 not 1990! Why is it so hard to release games worldwide?

And Day One DLC is obviously a rip off to loyal fans.

@CanisWolfred Calm down. I don't care if it takes them more time. Rushed games are bullcrap andbif because of it they have to sell dlc, its theft.

I'm not against dlc but they have to be worth the price and offer a good product. If they need to gain more money is not my problem. That is their responsability and if they fail to produce good products I won't buy them.

Some of the things you've said are so ridiculous that they sound like a joke. And by the way, Smash Bros sells so many millions that is impossible for it to don't make a really big profit.

Do you work for Nintendo?

Gosh, unbelievable.

Can't wait until this releases in Europe, which hopefully will be soon. :3

@DarkCoolEdge Believe it or not, if good DLC is released for a good price, it will interest a large number of people. Atlus aren't releasing an unfinished game and then adding DLC as you're suggesting, these are just additional extras. Besides, as many people have already said, it's not like you have to buy it. u_u

@DarkCoolEdge But What IS worth the price? How is a new Dungeon with an exclusive demon not worth 2 measily dollars? How are new characters not worth $5 in a fighting game, even if it's a party one? What do you expect, for them to release a brand new game as DLC? Because the sense I'm getting from you is that nothing short of that is actually worth anything. You, and many other don't seem to understand that DLC does require work, and people need to be compensated for it. And yes, the company you like making money is a good thing, since the more money they have, the more they can put towards new games.

Of course, this is not to say anyone has to buy DLC. As others have said, this is all entirely optional. In this case, Atlus themselves have said SMT's DLC is for gamers who don't have time to grind, so obviously not everyone would really even need to be interested in it. Those maps are not meant to be important. That demon's probably not that important outside of its collectable status. It's just an option for those who need some extra help, that's all. It's not like they're making us pay for the true ending or anything like that.

Really, I'm just tired of people yammering on about how terrible DLC is, when not only is it usually optional, but most of their complaints are downright incorrect. Sure, On-Disc DLC is a genuinely stupid practice most of the time, but Day One DLC is not always the same as On-Disc DLC, since Day One DLC can be made after the production of the game is over, but still be done in time for the game's release. Also, DLC is usually optional stuff, for those who want an easier game, or for those who who want more game down the road without paying for a new disc, or making everyone else feel overwhelmed by the sheer level of content (hence why I played more of Skyrim basic than Fallout 3 GOTY, even though I like FO3 more - there's too much to do in FO3 GOTY), so there's much less reasons to be so up-in-arms against them. It would be a big problem if they did restrict content that was already done before the production of the game ends, and that content is actually very important to the story (looking at you, Asura's Wrath) - that's stuff to actually get upset about, at least in my opinion. Fire Emblem's maps and SMTIV's armore and hairstyles seem like a molehill compared to that.

Really, I just think people are blowing this whole DLC thing out of proportion, without even focusing on the real problems with it.

DLC is a good thing. If you can't get enough of a game, you can extend...if not...you have an extra cup of coffee. But what's coffee without a good game?

@CanisWolfred So, because it is optional it can be overpriced? Way to go!

I have defended dlc many times because if done well they are great.
2€ for a mini map is not great. I feel theft. If you are gonna ignore my complaints, just don't reply me.

@DarkCoolEdge It's not a mini-Map. It's a Map pack. As in Multiple maps. See: "Suitable for the early stages of the game, the new maps will help players gain extra experience to boost their characters with enemies and a collectible demon exclusive to the DLC." — Siliconera