USA WiiWare Update: Tiki Towers & Fun! Fun! Minigolf

Good week all round. Except people are complaining about the solo VC game.

Quite a good week, I hope Tiki Towers is received well as it looks interesting.

I have alot of gaming to do this week and Merry Christmas to the Wii Ware World, VR reviews and VC forums team !!!

Like the avatar, Tony. But you almost cut off Skywarp's head.

Maybe i will buy the Minigolf Game, when it comes out in Europe...I depends on the Review, of course :=)

Nice update - here's hoping TT is great! I'll be getting FFM! though in January. I wonder if Ninty are giving us a Christmas gift this year?

ADDED: Nah - but we are getting Sonic 2 (Master System) and Secret of Mana on Friday, which you can't argue with really.

Getting better...

I wonder when TT will be gifted to me....I can't wait!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!! Ho ho ho...

Merry Christmas the holiday where we say happy birthday to Jesus Christ .
Looks like you got a great deal over there .
Well hopefully us PAloriansget something on boxing day .

@Wiiloveit
What, do you mean a GAME, or like, Wii Points, or what? For a game, you guys just GOT Goo, Niki, Orbient, and Sudoku!

@ BassX0
I know it looks better on the forums and facebook. I almost went with Starscream but settled on Skywarp instead.

I will try Tiki Towers to see how it is

Yeah, I had to edit my own avatar a few times so that my whole face appeared in the middle. Anyway, Tiki Towers will probably be better than many NES games.

Tiki towers costs 0.79 euro on the iphone. I wish nintendo let developers have lower prices than 500.

And here I was hoping for Rock N Ball. Oh well.

Yeah I wanted Niki Rolly-Thingy too

Same here. But I'm not surprised.
Fun Fun Minigolf is a pass on my end. But I'm wondering if Tiki Towers is worth trying... I'm quite skeptical, actually.

I am very interested to the upcoming review of Fun! Fun! Minigolf, hopefully it is a good game.

Well at least there are two decent games today. Unfortunately non of them interest me. Guess I will have to wait and see what comes out next week.

@Tony: Skywarp is awesome! (My favorite of the Decepticon planes.)

Hopefully Fun Fun Minigolf is indeed...fun.

@ Ian Daemon That one was for you then
Gotta love the black and purple

I'm not really all interested in Tiki Towers. I am, however, waiting for impressions / reviews for Fun! Fun! Minigolf. Shin'en are known for some quality graphics and audio in their games so I hope the gameplay matches with those 2 categories.

I don't care about Phantasy Star or Tiki Towers, but if Fun Fun Minigolf is finally the first good sports game for WiiWare, I'll get it.

Has anyone, who was eligible for the free Tiki Towers game, received Tiki Towers yet? I still have not gotten mine...

@mojo25 - The game is not even out yet!

@mojo
You may have to wait until after 12pm noon time. Thats usually when the Wii shop updates

12 p.m. ET/ 9 a.m. PT, the games launch...

Oh, ok. Thanks Versus22 and Tony, I just don't keep up with things very well lol.

In other words, I'm slow...

12:00 pm hooray!

Now I wait...<stares at Wii for blue light to come>

@mojo25 check the wii Shop Channel the games have been added.

P.S. the blue light does not come on when the Shop Channel updates.

Just remember that Tiki Towers maker, RealArcade, is also who brought us the horible "Boingz!"

I will wait for a review on both of these games!

@gameking23
Same situation here, still, nice games.
I'm also waiting fo rock'n'ball but hopefully Niki will come next week, or maybe for Christmas

MERRY CHRISTMAS WWW AND EVERY ONE!!!!

Just because one game is horrible, doesn't mean anything else they make is horrible.

The guys who make hundreds of Barbie games? They made Contra 4.

I am awaiting my free copy of the game from RealArcade, once again, thanks for the opportunity. I'll give it a review too (not here obviously though ) when I get the chance.

Can't wait for my gifted copy, as well. Merry Christmas!

A question for anyone who is receiving the game from RealArcade, did they add you yet? As in they are still grayed out in the address book? Mine is still grayed out.

Edit - Nevermind, it's fully added. Happy Holidays everyone.

@gameking23

I know that, but according to the e-mail I got from RealArcade, they said that when gifted the game, a message will be sent to Wii Message Board.

Anyway, I can't wait, and Merry Christmas to everyone!!

I got my gift of Tiki Towers!

Thanks RealArcade!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Well I hear Tiki Towers calling me. Better get back to it.

Umm, what is with the gifting of Tiki Towers? :

@Atlantis1982 - Look at the news about it below
http://www.vc-forums.com/showpost.php?p=95876&postcount=1

EDIT: Changed link to single post

@atlantis1982
where have you been?

Dang. I'm too late.

Tiki Towers is prettty awesome guys, a good buy considering it's only 500 points.

Oh yea, and the graphics aren't THAT bad, they're just kind of blocky...oh well, TT was free for me, so WHO CARES?

Yeah, haven't been on the forums for quite some time. Oh well, hope you guys enjoy your free game.

I'll await the review for the mini-golf game to see if its worth it, but I think it'll be a later purchase cause I am probably going to get a friend her first download game with her new Wii.

I say that MaBoShi's Arcade must be released next week.

Also, it would be exactly 4 months since Europe got that game.

A decent update I think, I hope Europe has a good one next week. FFM looks good and Tiki Towers may be worth a look into.

Good games this week! Even the lone VC game is good.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

I was kinda hoping for Animales De La Muerte, but oh well.

Not my cup of eggnog (lol) though. Guess I'll wait till next week ... or just buy some other games. GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTIONS PEOPLE!

_{Some turtles ... are hugglebunnies. There are turtles, if they find out your Italian, they will throw hammers. And I happen to know for a fact that some turtles ... are ninjas - Casey Corbin}

Judging from the answer in the High Voltage interview about Animales, I wouldn't look to get this game any time soon, and I'm guessing it's likely not even a WiiWare title anymore.

@corbie dam* you, I just wanted to write the same But you are right and I think it's a bad step they are making. They could release a full retail game and a compatible WiiWare Multiplayer Version with WiFi support for the retail game which would kick as*

I just finished writing something pressed backspace to delete a letter, and it went back to the previous page and erased it all.

I was looking forward to Animales, too bad it's probably not WiiWare anymore. Any news on "Last Flight"? Probably not ... but I need something more mature to play ... Castlevania 3 would be cool. Don't think I've played that one. I loved Simons Quest and the first one, and downloaded Super Castlevania 4 and loved that. I love castlevania. Think I'll buy SImons Quest ...

Also, why is everyone talking about MaBoShi like its the one game to rule them all? I though it sucked? Ah, well.

Thank you for the "Merry Christmas", and a Merry Christahanakwanzaa to you to!

As for the games, I don't give a ** about either of them.

While not a mind-blowing week, it sure doesn't seem like a disappointment. I look forward to hearing how these games did. With Tiki Tower's price point, I might actually get it if it gets good reviews despite it being a puzzle game.

@Sycoraxic (way back at comment number 10): a game, because last year the big N released Donkey Kong Country 3 as a Christmas present (although we still had to pay for it, and there was no other update that week). Either way, it would still be nice, although I suppose new Wii owners going online on Christmas day would probably be quite happy to see World of Goo and Niki Rock 'n' Ball on the title screen of the Wii Shop.

@Versus22: Well... you did give us World of Goo, so we might as well complete our side of the bargain and let MaBoShi free for you shortly. There's just one more problem: the game has to try and sneak through Nintendo of America HQ as well before they "forget" to release it...
From now on, this matter is out of my hands. I did my best. Salutes

Just downloaded my gift of TikiTowers! Will post my thoughts ASAP!

Haven't received Tiki yet.
Oh well, I have time.

First impressions: Similar to WOG and yet different enough to stand on it's own, Tiki Towers uses its own style of building challenges to keep players busy. Having played through the first world (5-ish levels, 20% of the game) I can say that while WOG easily has better graphics, music and atmosphere, I'm so far enjoying myself equally, if not more, with Tiki Towers. Yes, I understand the boldness of that comment. Perhaps the future levels will disapppont or the game won't evolve enough with the new abilities by the end, but so far, I'm one impressed monkey. (Pun intended.)

A winner is me
I got the free gift from Realarcade. I going to play it some before I post some impressions

Looks like another good double update for America. funFUN is out and Tiki looks like a steal, I liked the stress levels and rigid structures you saw in the trailer. Can't wait for the review.

So far this game is VERY fun. I haven't played WOG yet and I plan to buy it with my next Wii Points Card. The building of the towers is difficult, because the monkeys have to go back to the supply crates to get the materials. This means that if a bamboo pole has broken and you place a blueprint bamboo pole there, then the monkey has to go all the way back to the material crate and return in time to place it, or else the tower may crumble down...

Although that comment might seem like this game is very difficult, it actually adds more fun, and even though the game has around (I think) 30 levels, this trial and error of building towers should make the game last for a while.

I think that this should be a good game to buy with any leftover Wii Points, especially because of the low price.

@ AlexSays:

Have you checked the Wii Shop Channel? Because I thought a message would appear on my Wii Message Board, but then at around 1:00 pm, I checked the Wii Shop Channel, and it said that there is a gift awaiting me.

You should go check.

My wii flashed blue when I was gifted. It depends on your wii settings. IF you receive no message, go to the wii shop channel and see if its there.

That worked.
Thanks Mojo.

Well it's definitely better than I thought it would be.
It's still not in the same ballpark as World of Goo but it's a fun, cute little game in it's own right.

And then price comes into things.
15 bucks for World of Goo was an absolute STEAL and I believe 5 bucks for this game is a good deal as well.

15 for goo? 5 hours? not a steal. .

No it's not just a steal.
It's an absolute STEAL.

Those 5 hours are some of the top-quality hours gaming has to offer.
Not to mention they give incentives to go back and play some more.
World of Goo could have cost 50 bucks and they'd still be generous.

I've seen some Tiki footage, and the physics are weird, not earth like. The structure someone created had a pivot that made it unstable and instead of collapsing, it was perfectly OKAY, standing still, with monkeys climbing up and down. Incredible!

yeah while world of goo was short, every minute of it was pure fun, gaming bliss. haven't had that since i played portal.

I NEED HELP!!!

Please wise Wiiware people, I am about to get a 2000 Wii Points Card for Christmas. I was pretty sure that I would get World of Goo, but since I got this game for free, I'm not sure I will be needing WOG. Should I get it? Or should I get something else???

Please!! Help!! When I get a Wii Points Card, I usually spend it on something I didn't enjoy

<cough> My Aquarium, Defend Your Castle <cough>

GIVE ME ADVICE!!!!

well what games do you like, no point us suggesting something because unless we know what you like we are likely to suggest something you might not like.

@mojo25
okay okay
1: calm down
2: im gunna stop using these numbers for my explaination of your crisis
ok anyway if your not so sure that WoG is gonna be in your liking then buy MM9, Fun Fun mini golf, space invaders get even, one of the art styles, Mega man 1,2, or 3, or super mario RPG.
But if you do buy it then get a NES VC game or My Aquarium.
I hope I helped.
Oh and do you know what art style game I should get next? I already have Orbient but I was wondering if Cubello was good or not!?

@mojo 25: Well, since you asked nicely and twicely . . .

safe bet: Tetris Party

risky biscuits (because it hasn't been reviewed yet): Fun! Fun! Minigolf

If you get bold and go for FFM, let us know how it is, will ya?

And you should go for FFM . . . it's no use playing it safe this close to Kwanza.

j

Ok, thanks everyone. I think I'll still get WOG since I checked some gameplay videos on Youtube.

@ Killraven: I'm really into puzzle games, action games, and puzzle games...yea. If you have any more suggestions, then please share

@ Dazza: Thanks for your help. I have Toki Tori (GREAT game, still haven't beaten it) but not Lost Winds. The only thing worrying me about buying Lost Winds is that people say it's too short...

@ shadow626: Thanks for all of those games. I think that if I do buy WOG, then I was planning to get Megaman 2 or 3, or Super Mario 3...or save up for something else. And sorry! I haven't gotten any of the Art Style games, so I wouldn't know.

@ indenmark: I don't know...I have never been that into Tetris games, so I don't think that I'll be getting Tetris Party, considering that there are many free Tetris games all on the internet. Thanks anyways! Oh yea...I'm very slow, and too lazy to search, so what's FFM? lol...I've probably heard of it, but I'm just dumb.

@mojo25 . . . hint: it's part of the title of this news item

Oh, and did you know you can d/l the first level of World of Goo for the PC? That'll give you a nice feel for what you'd be getting into with it.

Oh, and if you like puzzle games, have you considered Maboshi? I know I have.

And how can you be really into puzzle games and not like Tetris? That would be like a . . . well, I'm sure it would be like something.

goodnight!

j

@inden-maboshi isnt out in NA yet.
@mojo-Lostwinds is 3~hrs long but its really fun and has nice graphics. Most people will play it multiple time (i have played it 3 times) and you can compete ith your best time at vc-forums! (see lostwindspage /lostwinds review comments for link.
Puzzle games: Magnetica--played this so much, its really great. its like zuma if that helps. and toki tori is also good.

all three art styles games a good but different.

rotohex, is really for those that like tetris in endless mode. constantly doing the same thing but getting faster and faster.

orbient, hmm dunno who it is for, but it's quite a good game, but not one i play formm more than 4 stages at a time normally.

cubello, my personal favourite, great puzzler.

@mojo25
heads up megaman 2 is too easy but still fun and mega man 3 i heard is sorta hard and super mario bros. 3 is spectacular.
if i were you I`d either save it or buy super mario bros. 3 or mega man 3
caugh*space invaders get even*caugh

Um, I believe that's "Cough"

Wow...I've started a whole...*sniffle*....conversation here :, )

THANKS EVERYONE!!! You guys have been a great help. I think my Wii Points Card shopping list should be:
World of Goo= 1500
Super Mario Bros. 3= 500

If you have any combinations for more possible lists, please post...again lol...thanks everyone for your help!

Example of another possible list:
Star Fox 64= 1000
Castlevania= 500
Super Mario Bros. 3= 500

OR HERES AN IDEA, SHOULD I WAIT UNTIL CAVE STORY COMES OUT??????

Cave Story isn't coming any time soon.

Throw that idea out the window.

Oh wow...that was a quick response...and that was kinda a joke, because I knew that too

EDIT: Oh gosh...I just realized that I have only about 100 blocks left on my Wii...that's not enough for WOG! Hey people, when you temporarily return something to the Wii Shop Channel, does the memory of that game become erased? Because I'm planning to return the Nintendo Channel and Everybody Votes, along with Defend Your Castle and My aquarium just to create some room.

@mojo25
anytime man
no your saved data would get erased and deleting all those games jeez thats enough memory for several more games. If I were you I`d delete My Aquarium because thats like 300 blocks and super mario bros. 3 is like 30 blocks

Happy Chrismahannukwanzukah everyone!

Ok thanks guys! You guys (and/or girls) rock!!

@shadow262: Thanks for letting me know that! I just checked My Aquarium's block size, and it's 227, so I think that I'll have enough room for WOG and SMB3. If not, then I guess I'll have to say goodbye to Everybody Votes channel. After all, I don't even use it lol...thanks again!!

Man, I wish Nintendo put Super Smash Bros. 64 on Virtual Console. Those were the good times...

Merry Christmas* to all!!

*Or Hanukkah/Kwanzaa

@mojo25
nice! hey if u dont use it get rid of it i always say
and Legend of Zelda majoras mask thats was a fun game oh and super mario kart

Fun! Fun! Mini Golf is a great game and easily the best mini golf game on the Wii.

I am having a hard time getting into Tiki Towers. Maybe I was expecting too much out of it. Also, I am a little confused by the two player mode. I thought it would play more like World of Goo's co-op play.

@Pablo17: Please, more thoughts about Fun! Fun! Minigolf! How's the control? The difficulty? The physics?

thanks,

j

@Mojo25: If you're getting World Of Goo, then you could spend the other 500 points on Boulder Dash for the C64. Oh wait a second - how silly of me! You don't get C64 games in the US! Well, if you want a new game on WiiWare, there's always Pit Crew Panic - oh wait a second! PCP is 800 points in NA isn't it? How silly of me. Well... you could get... the internet channel?
In fact, no, here's a better idea: wait a couple of weeks and get Niki Rock 'n' Ball! That game is pretty good.

I haven‘t got my gift yet where abouts does it tell me on the shop channel? And I have a US Wii so that shouldn‘t be an issue

@Wiiloveit: Yes, how silly of you Wiiloveit...
...thanks for your *cough* not help *cough*

lol, just kidding. I was looking at Niki Rock 'n' Ball! yesterday, and was thinking of getting it myself. But then I realized it wasn't released in NA yet

@chunky_droid: Hey, chunky_droid, have you checked the Wii Shop Channel yet? Because I thought a message would come to the Wii Message Board, but nothing came, so I checked the WIi Shop Channel and it said there was a gift awaiting me.

UUGH Oh my, now I'm thinking of getting Megaman 9 and LostWinds...TOO MANY GREAT GAMES!!!

Should I get Megaman 9 and LostWinds?
Or World of Goo and Super Mario Bros. 3?

@mojo25: I checked the Wii Shop Channel and nothing caught my eye there, unless I completely missed it. Does it pop up on the Start Shopping page?

And to answer your question I would personally get Super Mario RPG and Sin and Punishment

Hmm, yes, when I opened the Wii Shop Channel, it immediately said there was a gift awaiting me...Is your WiiConnect24 on? And did you set your setting to Allow gifts on the Wii Shop Channel? Because if you didn't...then that would suck because RealArcade might have sent it but if your setting weren't correct, then you would never receive it... D:

I set it all up to receive everything the Wii could possibly ever receive lol. I sent an e-mail to RealArcade just in case

Oh ok. I just checked out Sin and Punishment, and man it looks awesome. It's just that I was so excited for World of Goo, I just can't not get it. Thanks anyways for all of your help.

Mojo, you sound hyper

FUN! FUN! MINIGOLF by Shin'en

I have been looking forward to this game for a while but there is barely any info on it now that it is out so I decided to pull the trigger and drop the points on this title. This is my first review on anything, ever, so keep that in mind. Hopefully this will help you decide on whether or not to make a Fun! Fun! purchase, not show of my grammar skills.

A whopping 302 blocks at $9.00.

Presentation:

~Great looking menus that are simple and quickly get you into the game
~4 Insanely happy looking characters to choose from. No seriously, these characters are way to happy to be playing mini golf!
~No Mii support as expected.
~Awesome graphics. Hands down the best I have seen with a Wiiware game.
~Upbeat generic music. Good sound effects.
~Very detailed backgrounds/courses. Course in background adds to the feeling that you are actually playing on site.
~Controls handle very well. No problems as of yet.

Gameplay:

I hate to do this, but I would compare the gameplay to putting in Wii Sports Golf but on steroids. Using the directional pad to line up shots, rotate the character using left or right. Hit up on the d-pad and it centers your character back into their starting position. Shots are lined up using a dotted line similar to old school pool video games. This starts at the ball and runs the length of the hole till it hits a wall or obstacle. To my surprise the projected path line does not "bounce" of objects which really makes the game more challenging. Hitting down on the d-pad changes the camera view.

There are three different camera views. The first is centered behind the character which is useful when taking your swing. The second view positions the camera a few feet above the characters eye level letting you scope out the hole and in some cases lets you plan your shot better. The third camera angle is to the right of your character and gives you a shot of half the hole from the side. This angle confuses me because it doesn't really serve any purpose other than looking at the course in the background. Sometimes in the first two camera views, obstacles block the hole and you are left guessing on the best possible path. They should of added a fourth camera position behind the hole to let you plan shots out a little more. I don't expect this to be a big deal once you play through a course a few times and are familiarized with the holes, but it would of been a nice touch.

After you have your shot lined up, your focus will be on a shot timing meter. Holding the A button and assuming a putting position, you need to time your shot when you swing. This is where the game gets interesting. Holding down A brings up a picture of a golf ball with a blue stripe running horizontally across it. In the middle of the blue stripe is a white circle. A tiny dot bounces left to right along this stripe, it take the dot about one full second to go along this stripe. Swing the Wiimote while the tiny dot is in the middle of the white circle and you hit the ball perfectly straight. Hit it while the dot is to the right of the circle and it slightly curves to the right. While not groundbreaking or anything, this adds a lot to the game. Your having to time your shots, not just step up and swing away like a maniac. The game recognizes the stroke of the Wiimote great, it's just a matter of becoming familiar with the strength of the swing power. There is a small "Swing" meter onscreen. It records your current swing and will keep it on screen till your next stroke. This serves as a learning tool, nothing more. From the starting position, your initial stroke needs to end fairly close to the hole in a target zone or it will be considered out of bounds, penalizing you with a stroke and forcing you to stay in the tee off area. Each hole has a target zone outlined in white, some areas are large while others are only a few feet wide. So in short, make your initial shot into this zone to play where it lies or start over again. I enjoyed this because it was more of a challenge but expect some players to get frustrated with it. With this being a Wiiware title I was curious about the accuracy of motion registration/sensitivity using the Wiimote, but am pleased to say that I had no problems with the first play through.

Courses:

There are nine holes to for the three courses. The first course (U.S.) is the easiest containing straightforward shots. I expect people to learn the game mechanics on this one. Once players have a feel for the game, they will likely return to this one only in party mode when playing with newcomers. The second Course (Asia) is labeled as medium but revs up the difficulty to what I expected the third course to be. Lot's of ramps and introduction of shots that need to banked of the sides of the holes boundaries. The last course (Europe) is insanely hard and I don't expect to play on that one for I bit.

My main beef with this game is where are all the wacky holes?! Don't get me wrong, these courses with their elaborate backgrounds are spectacular for a Wiiware title. If a sequel is made, I think they need to scrap the realistic feel and create courses with more of classic 80s Putt-Putt feel. Shoot the ball through the windmill with a moving blade, jump a ramp through the scary-as-hell clowns opening and closing mouth, and navigate a shot through few stationary dinosaurs legs. I guess what I am trying to say is that Shin'en did a awesome job with the game mechanics and the holes are designed very well, but sitting here writing this, nothing really sticks out in my mind. Maybe adding down loadable content for this game would of been a good idea? I would slap down some Wii points for an original themed course. A spooky nine holed haunted course theme?! Oh yeah! A course over-run with martians and a hole that uses a crashed UFO as a ramp?! Bring it on!

My Closing comments:

I really enjoyed this game and know that I will get more than my monies worth out of it. If you enjoy Wii Sports Golf or have been keeping an eye on this one I would definitely recommend it. Actually this game is a smaller version of what I had hoped Capcoms "We Love Golf" to be. I do have a few complaints though. Covered earlier, I think there needs to be at least one more camera angle to help you plan out your shots. Adding a practice swing meter/function would of been use full also.By no means are any of these deal breakers. If this one was on your radar, I would support these guys and pick it up.

LOL! Look at that beast of a comment!

And you thought Mojo sounded hyper.... Go Yumyumkid!!

its impossible to not putt a ball straight? :l

Wow that took me 8 minutes to read every single comment..

We need zelda on wiiware - instabuys.

@VALERHU. It's possible to hit the ball straight, just need to time the shot perfet. Or use the slider meter to curve your ball around objects. Think this is called draw or fade or something? Not a golf player, but it seems thats where they were going with this feature.

Well, curving a ball around something is nice, but only professional players can do it in real life.

Can't go in depth cause im on my wii..

I SOUND HYPER??!?!?!!?!?!!!!!?!!11!1!ONE!

I DONT THINK I DO. HEHEHEHEHH.....

Sorry about that..

mojo, you should get lost winds and bomberman blast. But thats just imo.

@yumyumkid...nice post.

I down loaded mini golf as well and really like it. Fun! Fun! Minigolf is a quality game and worth the 900 points.

Ok wrote that last nite and have played a bit more since. I was completely wrong on that draw/fade thing. Your just trying to line up your shot with the meter. And you can also take all the practice swings you want. Just swing while not holding A. I was pretty tired last nite, lol. Anyway I am still impressed as Hell with this game. I think this company is on to something here. Let's see more courses!

I was never interested in golfing games, but that review made me interested. But still, I think I'll save my Wii Points for WOG and Super Mario Bros. 3

Great review BTW Yumyumkid.

We need zelda on wiiware - instabuys.
No we don't.
Zelda on WiiWare would single-handedly destroy the service and ruin Nintendo's reputation.
Bad ideas like that make me happy Nintendo only listens to their fans a little bit.

Fun! Fun! Mini Golf is a great game and easily the best mini golf game on the Wii.
...It's not like it has much competition.
There's only one other mini golf game.

Regarding Fun! Fun! Minigolf, I didn't see where there was an option to be left handed. I, as well as the other three players I played with are all right handed, so maybe I missed it. Great game but that may be a factor to someone else. (Maybe I just missed the option)

By Zelda on WiiWare do you mean a little Zelda type mini game? B/C if you do try Link's Crossbow Training. I bought it used for $2.50. Not the Zapper, just the game.

After more play time, I'm giving Tiki a solid 6.
If anyone's interested in this type of game, definitely play World of Goo first.
This is a fun little game for 500 points, but World of Goo is an absolute beast for whatever the price.

And that Indian Chief (in Tiki Towers) saying the same thing over and over every two seconds is the most annoying character since Navi.

For Fun! Fun! Minigolf I don't see any options to change it to left handed. Not much in the options department, would like to be able to set it so the whole coures takes place at night.

There's a few Mini Golf games out for the Wii.
Carnival Games Mini Golf
King of Clubs
Crazy Golf

And Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 All Play has an 18 hole Mini Golf course that is ridiculously hard but fun if you like how that game handles. People aren't going to buy Tiger Woods for the Mini Golf feature though and the other games aren't that great so yeah, don't think it has much competition.

@Yumyumkid...thanks for posting the rest of the mini golf games for the Wii. I seem to remember there being one in Summer Games as well but it has been a while.

Having played (rented) all of the other Mini Golf games on the Wii, I think that Fun! Fun! is the best. I can forgive the lack of options considering how well the game plays.

Yeah, between all the party-esque type games for the Wii I think there are a ton of mini golf mini games spread throughout them.

@alexsays
whats bad about TT?

@Chunky-droid- Did you ever get your TT gift?

It's not that it's bad, it's just not that great.
The game is ugly. One of the lesser looking games on WiiWare.
The IR is a little too responsive. A slight jerk will cause the camera to go crazy.
The game play at times is overly complicated. You have a guy throwing fire balls at your work and you have to try to ignore him, raise banamana, and continue building your structure.

World of Goo's selling points are it's graphics, easy pickup-and-play game play, and it's story.
Tiki Towers delivers all that in a much lesser extent.
It's a fun game and worth the 5 bucks but people are better off paying 15 bucks for a game that does everything better.

A top down Phantom Hourglass style Zelda could work well. I'd explain how the controls and whatnot could work, but Nintendo will only think of something better (that, and the fact that I don't have enough time after reading yumyumkids "comment")

That's fine as long as it's not on WiiWare.
Zelda on WiiWare would destroy the service and Nintendo knows this.

Nintendo knew Pokemon on WiiWare was a risky move so they put it out as soon as the service was just starting.
They know they couldn't release Pokemon on WiiWare right now.

@alexsays
they release enough pokemons on the DS

Yes, I now agree that TT deserves a lower score than I thought before. After the first island, things get too complicated. There are too many things that you have to keep in mind. I haven't played WOG, so I really hope it is much different (different, as in better) than this game.

I would probably give it a 6/10 as well.

@longtimegamer: Just woken up will have a look in a minute

I was hoping for My Zelda Ranch and Zelda Wand of gamalot part 2 and 3
Seriously though A four swords adventure would fit the Wii Ware pretty well, but I think its unlikely. I just want to see more Art Style games

"And that Indian Chief (in Tiki Towers) saying the same thing over and over every two seconds is the most annoying character since Navi"

Clearly you haven't played pokemon puzzle league

Ok booted up system, nothing in message board. Booted up Wii Shop, nothing on first screen. Clicked Start Shopping and seemingly nothing there

@Chunky-droid- There should be someplace on your download site that tells you wether or not your specifically setup to recieve gifts. Also did you make sure that you register RealArcades Wii friendcode number? Make sure that you didn't make any mistakes on yours(when you sent it) or theirs?

RealArcade's name is in black now instead of grey so that's set up fine. And my Wii is ready to accept gifts. They just don't love me!

EDIT: Actually does it matter if the console's registered in Canada instead of America? They get the same WiiWare and VC updates so I wouldn't think so. And a Canadian on here got a free copy too.

@chunky-Could be that you simply missed the deadline to reg them or something and they only sent the gifts then. Sorry, man.

Chunky-Droid- In black JUST now? When did you register them?
If you're in canada I'd set it for canada or vise versa for US.

You did get an email right?
@Objection_Blaster- I was several hours late myself and got it (Sometime after 10 pm VT time.)

@chuky_droid: look on the bright side, at least it's only 500 Wii Points!
@AlexSays: I see your point, although surely they can't go wrong with a Phantom Hourglass style multiplayer/online game a la Pac Man Vs?

No it was black last Friday about 20 minutes after I registered their Wii. And yeah I got an e-mail, as far as I know I was second in line after WarioFan63.

@chunky_droid - They get the same WiiWare and VC updates so I wouldn't think so. And a Canadian on here got a free copy too.

That was because I switched my region to the USA when I heard about this news from RealArcade!