Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Full Character Roster List Gotta Smash 'em all! by Anthony Dickens & Gavin Lane Tue 5th Oct 2021 Share:3 Page : « Previous 1 2 3 4 Next » 21. Marth 21ε. Lucina 22. Young Link 23. Ganondorf 24. Mewtwo 25. Roy 25ε. Chrom 26. Mr. Game & Watch 27. Meta Knight 28. Pit 28ε. Dark Pit 29. Zero Suit Samus 30. Wario 31. Snake 32. Ike 33-35. Pokemon Trainer 36. Diddy Kong 37. Lucas 38. Sonic 39. King Dedede 40. Olimar 41. Lucario Page : « Previous 1 2 3 4 Next » Share:3 14 209
That is a LOT of characters! Still not all that interested in the genre though.
That a lot of characters ,and have a feeling we will get a lot more. Unsure however if they be new or echo characters at the moment plus dlc
@Arnold-Kage yeah, that's the funny thing... they will no doubt announce even more before December.
Wow, people are still salty AND butthurt over this game XD
Im not sure they will announce too many more, they did kinda confirm that - they mentioned a few times - don't expect many new faces as it was hard enough getting all these in.
I hope they do announce more - fighting games is always the more the merrier for me.
Oooh my sweet Daisy!
@NewAdvent I thought the same... Sadly that’s counting Pokémon Trainer as one and the Echo Fighters separately. 😔
Really hope we get some more new announcements (non-Echo), new fighters are what make the series for me.
That Ganondorf Art tho. Glad they finally step away from the TP Style and have them all be from different games/eras.
Geez, even in non Pokémon page, they still use the "gotta catch em all" pun.
I know, the Smash Bros series had included the franchise since the original game. But seriously, Nintendo Life "gotta stop em all"!
I hope Charizard can still be used independently of the Pokémon Trainer as it was in Smash 4.
Gotta (eat / drink / smash / touch / burn / freeze / read / sing / watch / punch / kick / insert any action command) 'em all !
I'm glad Snake is back!
I never wanted to see Ridley in this state, cause he looks absolutely laughable.
But I'm glad to see snake is back, his kit was one of the funnier ones in brawl. I just kind of hoped that an advance wars game would have taken a character to replace him.
Whats the point of echo characters if they arent going to label all of them
Ones that should be echoes:
I love the new Echo system in the game rather than having “clone” characters taking up slots. The designs of Zelda and Marth look absolutely beautiful and I can’t wait to see who else they will reveal and what stages they show. The Inkling will be a fun but strategical character I think but I will certainly give them a try.
1. Everyone from Melee and Brawl that were cut. are back!
2. better final samshes for some of the characters
3. some of the movesets for returning characters have change. (such as Link)
4. seems like all of the old Stages from all Smash games are coming back!
5. i heard the hazers are optional to turn of. which is good in my book
1. the Pokemon Trainer is back... which means that Ivysaur, Charizard, and Squirtle are likely back to being as one. (@Silly_G pointed out)
2. other clones are not echo characters. but, will hear more on that surely later this year.
3. Bayonetta is way too broken. and she really needs improvements
Mario Tennis Aces: Luigi's got a huge "Lunch Box"!
Smash Bros Ultimate: Luigi's got a huge butt.
"Star Fox" MY EYES!! MY EYES!! Fox McCloud is the name, Star Fox is his team. Sigh.
This game is gonna be nuts. Holiday 2018 is gonna be very busy.
Edit: Who is star fox? You would think a Nintendo fansite would know Fox McCloud’s name...
Edit 2.0: Glad they fixed Fox's name.
Remembering back I saw a 'leak' that said Ice Climbers, Ridley, and Simon Belmont were in the game. Seeing how ridiculous it was that it included Ridley I dismissed it. But now....
I adore this new artwork!! I’m getting lots of Smash 64 vibes from just the way it looks, that’s a good thing. The designs have this feel, this aesthetic to them that’s hard to explain that makes each character look like the game the first appeared in (Mario looks like Smash 64, Dr. Mario looks like Melee, Wario looks like Brawl, etc.), yet at the same time it all looks wonderfully unified. Nintendo has outdone themselves this time around.
Also, worth noting, there’s only 25 weeks until this comes out! Woo!
@MrGawain That’s what I thought too. But now I’m going to be surprised if Simon isn’t announced.
Think we learn more before e3 is over. Anyone else notice the two empty amiibo spots in that case Sakurai showed everyone
@Radbot42 The only reason I could think of was that Dark Pit and Lucina are relatively newer than all those others who probably should be echoes. But yeah, I definitely agree with most of that list.
Noticed it too ,but maybe they give them some new move or something. Link already lost one special with the removal of his grab hook
Apparently there's one slot left (not including Echo Fighters.) Maybe a Smash Ballot? Otherwise, I'm bettin' on Master Hand because of the Melee Glitch.
@DToad64 Remind me if it has been clarified before but to me Echo seems like a prettier word for clone to me.
Also clones ain't taking up slots. They're literally just the cherries on top of your SSB sundae.
@Aozz101x @Silly_G It was confirmed that there is no stamina mechanic anymore with Pokémon Trainer. That means you can stay as any one of the 3 indefinitely with no penalty (which is probably why they are listed as 3 characters on the website).
Armada played Ivysaur pretty much exclusively when he was using Pokémon Trainer (only switching to Squirtle once for a little bit) in the tournament.
I thought I heard during the Direct/Treehouse event that the Echo characters have either slightly altered move-sets or different animations or something, but my phrasing wasn't probably best put, bad day at work kind of made my brain melt a bit, my bad. I'm hoping that Echo characters are not literally just clones but named differently though.
I'm just bummed the transformation Finals (Giga Bowser/Mac, Wario-Man, LANDOMASTA-DA) are out, replaced with just yet other pure damage attacks. How's Super Sonic in this regard, now?
..."and Knuckles from the Devil May Cry series" when?
@DToad64 No Problem. Also you heard correct. Thing is though, all clones have had non-cosmetic things that made them different to their counterparts. Of course, some more than others.
Yet people are still mad......
I'm buying it!
I also wouldn't be surprised to see at least one more character announced before it's December release.
I adore the new Zelda look and hope she gets a new amiibo.
@Big_Ounce Because it's Nintendo.
Star fox??? Are you kidding me???
I'm glad everyone return, I guess the only missing character is Wild Charizard from Super Smash Bros. 4 since Trainer Charizard return to replaced him. Still having this many characters is nothing if there's no meat in the game and by that I mean Adventure Mode or something like Subspace Emissary where you could enjoy a single player experience while unlocking the whole roster along the way. C'mon Sakurai if this is the ultimate game, give us the ultimate single player Smash experience, it doesn't need to be litter with CGi cutscenes, just variety in the level designs and gameplay.
I find it pretty cool, but I'm still very disappointed as of now. The Inkling & Ridley are cool additions (though Ridley looks more like he's in a kid form to greatly scale his down) and from all reports Daisy is a perfect clo- I mean 'echo character', so that's lame. The fact that we haven't heard of any game modes like a Stage Builder, Smash Tour, Smash Run, or even better, a new Campaign/Subspace Mode definitely doesn't help.
I love Smash, but if this game just has a big but old roster & Stage selection, standard Classic & Event Modes, and online play, it's gonna be one pretty vanilla Smash game to be called 'Ultimate'.
Love the new portraits. They show character.
I really can't wait to see more updates about this game. This roster already has me ready for more smash.
I suck at all fighters.
I will still buy this game.
Guess I'll play Mega Man.
Maybe this time I won't suck.
young link is back. I am whole now.
I just wish there was a inkling boy amiibo...
Those would all be amazing amiibo!
...We're going to do this all over again, aren't we? XD
I am sad they didn't make Lucina unique.
I'm happy to see Daisy but sad to not see a unique Daisy moveset. I suspect we'll be seeing more Echo characters since Sakurai tried to replace the more negative clone term with nifty Epsilon symbols. But hey, Pichu was my favorite from Melee and Pokemon Trainer is back with new Leaf form. Just give me the Coin Launcher and Boss Battles and I'll consider this a success.
Aw yeah...DUCK HUNT IS BACK. Time to kick cans and take aim.
I'll probably rotate between my mains of all the previous Smash games: Luigi, Marth, Wario, Wolf, Lucina, and OUR BOY ROY!!
Why did you list Fox as "Star Fox"?
And yet some people are still mad. People will always find something to be mad about lol
This roster is amazing! I was hoping for Midna but having Daisy, young Link and OoT Ganondorf is enough for me.
@TF-Warrior : He's competing with Daisy for waifu appeal.
This game needs more waluigi
That's some beautiful Lucario art.
Certainly a lot of content there for your money/
my boys and I can’t wait to get this game. They are so excited about all the characters being included.
I'm a bit confused by the echo characters. I get Pit/Dark pit, Lucina/Marth, but then there are other characters like Mario/Dr. Mario that aren't echos. Same could probably be said for Fox/Falco/Wolf and Pikachu/Pichu. I know they had slight move differences and their stats were different, but I thought that's exactly what the echoes were for.
For Pokemon Trainer - It would be good if future version update could make the number of playable Pokemon optional and allow switchable pokemon within current smash roster, not just 3 Gen1 starters.
Eg. Select Pokemon trainer, choose number of pokeballs 1/2/3, choose starting pokemon and alternating pokemon.
@Balladeer pokemon trainer isn't an echo of any character he is unique in how he he works.
@WaveBoy you did listen to what sakurai said did you? "Don't expect too many newcomers" meaning these aren't the only newcomers they probably going to add 5 more at most and 2 more at least.
@Radbot42 Because one they aren't exact copies for example young link hits faster than normal like and had fire arrows. Wolf is nothing like fox in moves besides final smash. Toon link is a lightweight which makes him different doctor Mario hits harder and has captain falcon down spike attack. While lucina has no Difference and dark pits arrows aren't enough to make him different including his final smash.
@roadrunner343 they are unique enough in either damage moves or weapons to mot be exact clone more like semi clones.
@Lazygamer17 I suppose, and if I had to guess, that would be Nintendo's reasoning too, but that seems a bit silly to me. If they were only doing it for exact clones (Which don't even really exist) then there would be no need for Echo characters at all - just do what they did with Bowser Jr. and the Koopa Kids.
When they explained Echo characters, it sounded to me like most of the clone characters would be echos, which I took it to mean characters that may have different stats or slightly different moves, but otherwise use the same moveset. I.E., my memory of melee is fading, but I believe Mario/Dr. Mario shared the exact moveset up until Mario got the FLUDD. I believe Pikachu/Pichu were the same way. Just seems odd that out of all of those, only Pit/Dark Pit and Marth/Lucina were rebadged as echo characters.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter to me at all what they're called - they're still available for play. It just seemed inconsistent. I'll be interested in seeing the rest of the echo characters, and whether or not any existing characters are turned into echo characters.
EDIT: Something I guess I didn't consider enough, is that with all of the tweaks/changes they are making, it's possible that most of those clone characters I mentioned won't really be clones anymore, they may have a much more unique move set. Similar to how they gave Mario Fludd. Will be interesting to see how the others turn out.
Glad to see Ice Climbers, Dr. Mario and Young Link back in Smash again
@WaveBoy listen if Ridley Daisy and inkling were the only newcomers he wouldn't have said what said instead he would probably something like here is the last newcomer or there is going to be one newcomer to the game since we added so many characters.Yet he went out of his way say Don't quote on quote "Expect to many newcomers meaning that there are at least 1 or more coming. It's obvious sakurai knows people want more I'm more than assuming I'm using evidence and didn't you want new characters??
@roadrunner343 The answer there (based off what I remember reading from interviews back for Smash for Wii U/3DS) is that Echo characters aren't part of the balancing process. They are just balanced to fight evenly against their normal form. Thus, they have to be incredibly similar for them to shortcut like that. While Dr. Mario was like that in the last game, it seems with Mario getting even more changes, they are no longer considered similar enough to be echoes.
@link3710 I'm not saying I don't believe that you heard that, but I don't think I believe the original statement - if they want Smash to be taken seriously at all competitively, echo characters will have to be part of the balance process. Even minor stat changes can have a pretty big impact on how a character plays.
I do agree with you on Mario/Dr. Mario, however. I edited my last comment to reflect that. I played the most Melee, and that's what I was thinking of when talking about them - I forgot about some of the recent changes that they made to differentiate the characters. Perhaps that's the approach they will take with the other clones too. Which again, leaves me a bit fuzzy on the whole echo designation in the first place. Some obvious choices aren't echoes, and I still think it would have been easy enough to just have another 3 clone characters without a designation, or add them as alternate skins like the Koopalings.
Despite the length post, like I previously said - I don't actually really care. I'm happy we're getting all the characters we are, regardless of what they call them. Just more curious about their thought process than anything.
@roadrunner343 Managed to find it:
"In the end, what was needed for each of these changes was to reduce the work required to balance the game. Hence all these characters were adjusted relative to their clone."
Get outta here mad kids and meleeboys, we are getting the definite Smash Bros here.
Palutena looks so much more beautiful 🤩
I am happy that they chose Oot Ganondorf. He is the best. Though I would have also liked the Windwaker design. Also, nice new Zelda design.
As people already said: Thanks to the banner it is rumored that Mister Saturn is a full character this time. Why else would he be on the banner?
wish they had KEN from street fighter! i even think guile would have been more interesting than ryu. or at least chun-li who is very popular with many fighting game fans.
@WaveBoy this franchise is way too profitable to close it out with this iteration. it has not grown stale.
These character designs are genuinely impressive. I can't help but admire the degree of details and realism incorporated into the majority of the characters. Like Mario for example, looking really closely at his shoes, you can see the leather to its most intricate details. Dark Samus in particular looks sick, a modern and high definition realization of the destructively Phazon addicted Metroid Prime herself.
Anyway... I'll leave on the note....
Now I'll show you! Haaaaaaaaah!
68. Bren Mcguire
@MH4 No, 17 weeks. Don't go adding another month on to that, are you sadistic?!
Edit: I can't read dates or times.
Star fox? I thought his name was Fox McCloud and his franchise was called star fox...
@HobbitGamer that comment is 2 months old... It was correct when he posted it.
@darkswabber Thanks, I jumped the gun.
Lol at this point i dont mind if they made for every character an echo character. Sonic and shadow, Cloud and Sephirot, megaman and? I dont know could be anyone.
young link and Majora/skull kid, they can add someone from punchout maybe his trainer? Lol.
Pokemon trainer and team rocket as an echo. So the list can go on lol.
But im the most interested in the storymode!
@darkswabber @antdickens You're right, the franchise and his team are named Star Fox, not the character.
@darkswabber @HobbitGamer Lol, this was hilarious. 😂 It doesn’t feel like 2 months ago, but I’m glad the time has gone by fast, that means we’re closer to Smash Bros’ release! 😃
Still hoping Dillon gets in...they haven't shown his assist trophy yet, and according to an article I read, the developers of his games want him to be in Smash.
@MH4 I know, it really doesn't seem that long at all. The more we see, the more I want it. I'm already super pleased with the amount of content inside. My only hope is that whatever single player we get isn't that ridiculous Smash Tour from Wii U.
@HobbitGamer Agreed! I’m hoping either Adventure Mode (one similar to Subspace Emissary) or Smash Run returns!
Or both, if Sakurai decides to go the extra mile (farther than he’s already gone, anyways 😃)!
I want Birdo as a Yoshi echo. She/he could shoot eggs forward instead of up. Also, Dixie Kong and Paper Mario deserve a spot IMO. Wishful thinking - Banjo Kazooie.
Very happy with the roster otherwise.
King K. Rool!!
Whoops, updated to simply Fox, my bad!
67 but if you count the 7 koopalings and Alph then that number will be upped to 75. Male / female version of certain character also raise that number as well if you want to count them like female Robin, female Pikachu, female Pokemon Trainer, female villager, and male Wii Fit Trainer. Sakurai could always add in more echoes and turn that number higher. I figure these would be great addition:
Ken Masters - echo of Ryu (instead of having Shinku Hadouken and the Super Dragon Punch, he had the Shinku Dragon Punch and Super Hurricane Kick like in Alpha 3)
Wart - echo of Bowser (instead of breathing fire he breathe bubbles)
Mega Man X - echo of Mega Man (instead of a dash slide, he side dash like in his actual games)
Ms. Pac-Man - echoes of Pac-Man
Dixie Kong - echo of Diddy Kong
Shadow the Hedgehog - echo of Sonic the Hedgehog
Blood Falcon or Black Shadow - echo of Captain Falcon (F-Zero characters are all tall and muscular so they all could easily be echo of one another).
Donkey Kong Junior - echo of Donkey Kong (instead of wearing a tie, he wore a pajamas like the old days)
So many characters. The matchups in this game are just completely out of this world. Mario, Sonic, Link, Cloud, Mega Man, Ryu, Simon Belmont, Bayonetta, Pac-Man, Snake, Pikachu, all in one massive cross-over. You just can't top this. You just can't. And there's STILL more characters to be revealed. It's just unbelievable what Sakurai and the rest of the Smash development team are capable of doing here.
67 so far. That’s a big cast of characters for sure.
Would it really kill them to also do the alternate genders and characters? I want to see Female Corrin's.
@shonenjump86 Actually, 72 if you count the echo fighters separately. 70 if you count Pokémon Trainer as 1 instead of 3.
Surely Rex/Pyra and the guys from ARMS are a shoe-in? Tails has got to make the cut given Knuckles is an assist.
Given Cloud is in and he's never been on a Nintendo system, it does leave things open for other FF characters. Cecil from FFIV would be the obvious choice (given it came out on a Nintendo console) but we could end up with Noctis who would have an interesting fighting style.
I would like to think Randi from Secret of Mana would be a great addition, but the game has enough swordsmen already!
Totally overwhelming. I'm not buying this :'/
You sure Chrom is a clone of Roy and not of Ike? His up B looks a lot like Ike's.
@mikegamer WHERE’S MY WALUIGI AND ZERO?
@marandahir It really is just the up B, and Chrom doesn't thorw his sword like Ike.
Waluigi cultists, I would say your tears are delicious but they are, in fact, profoundly corrosive, and the smell is out of this world. There is no greater punishment that can be meted out.
Do you think if Nintendo released waluigi as DLC for $20 people would buy it?
I hope it plays better than the previous games as I'll probably buy it
I hope that first and foremost they finally balance the characters properly. Jigglypuff is down right pathetic comparatively, there's still some broken move sets, that and Cloud/Bayonetta taking top tier by a landslide is rediculous. It was to the point where they were both taking top crowns in most tourneys. That'd be my only wish/complaint.
As for character additions, I would very much like to see Isaac from Golden Sun (or Felix from GS2 as Isaac is already an assist) Tails from Sonic, or a Tales of Series character like Cress from Phantasia, Lloyd from Symphonia, Yuri from Vesperia (my personal choice X3), etc. Shadow as an echo for Sonic would be kinda cool too. I mean I know a disc can only hold so much data which is a detail a lot of people forget when making demands about what should be in the game (a million characters + 30 modes + have 1000 stages lol) but that's what dlc is for. XP
As for characters like Lucas/Pichu/Wolf/etc I suspect they will be given moveset makeovers which is why they are not slated as echoes. Also, I personally will not miss Link's Hook Shot grab lol, though I imagine Toon Link will still have his. I look forward to seeing if Young Link will be more MM based like in Hyrule Warriors. The mask theme would make an awesome skill set + FD Link as final smash maybe. P:
@marandahir Chrom's moveset shows that while 1 Echo-Fighter is based on another character, they can also switch moves out with other fighters. This technically doesn't "break the rules" of echo-fighters as Sakurai did say they were characters based on another character, he never said it was limited to 1.
If you still don't believe it, go to the website, it lists Chrom as an echo of Roy.
i think the last bit of my Smash Roster Wish List would be Shantae, Rayman, Dixie Kong, Birdo (could just be an Echo Yoshi), and Captain Toad... if they include any or ALL of those, I think I'll be COMPLETELY content!!!
@Devi Nobody cares about Waluigi
Who are Simon and Richter?
@mikegamer Literally a huge amount of people care about Waluigi. It's so silly to say that nobody cares because you particularly don't. Many people don't care about this game either so it's all relative. Besides, Waluigi would make more sense in this game than around 20 other characters.
Great Roster but I hope that we get Solaire of Astora.
Well since this is not a port and truly the next in the series, I bet there is at least another 9 characters to be revealed. I mean, have you seen how many get added between entries! It's like 20!
I can only hope that we get Skull Kid and Shantae as playable characters sometime soon.... can’t wait for this game.
@BlueOcean People don't deserve him, not after those moronic losers who were harassing Sakurai on Twitter, etc, even going so far as to make threats. Screw them to the ends of the earth for all I care.
@mikegamer That's unfair. The internet is full of cowards but that doesn't mean that I have to be responsible for someone else's actions. Sakurai should just block and report them like we all do. You can't deal with anonymous offenders.
@BlueOcean I'm just saying, people are obsessing over him waaaaaaay too freaking much, they need to get a life or something.
Wouldn't it be awesome if Bad Mr. Frosty or Ickybod Clay was in this game?
Absolute drop dead gorgeous piece of fan service 🙌🏽 .
So... Captain Falcon is here and not in MarioKart 8 Deluxe (crosses fingers, prays to big pink pixie in the sky)
FRICKING MLG FOX MCCLOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Ryu_Niiyama YES THANK YOU YES YES YES THX ALOT Y TO DA E TO DA S YES
@KillerTan98 starts singing hallelujah
@NCChris and I want female fox but who cares but me ): (kinda wants to see Krystal in dis game as well)
No Evil Ryu?
Okay, we have Isabelle.
Now stop making me have to wait and see if Geno is playable or not. This is driving me crazy! XD
I'm just glad they went with the original "Manly Simon" design instead of that abomination from the Chronicles, which seems to have become the default Simon Belmont design as of late. Even better, they're using Richter's original design! Not that I minded his redesign too much but it's really awesome that they're going back to the old designs. When I first heard Simon was in the game, I wasn't very excited until I saw the trailer and saw that Nintendo put the same care and attention into Simon that they did with Mega Man. Seriously, it's like Simon climbed out of the NES game and jumped into Smash. Even his moveset looks excellent. Easily my most hyped character in the roster!
Think it may depend on the region, but I know the character as 'Duck Hunt Duo'.
Not a fan of this game but may still buy it
@deadpixels do you think we will see some paid DLC for mk8 deluxe still or did the direct kill off your hope?
@antdickens And let's not forget that blurred entire gamemode menu selection button from one of the last Direct! Which many suspect might be titled "Souls" so far based on close analysis of the blurred screenshot.
Which is.... interesting considering all the cinematics of "characters shown as being defeated by others, even implied 'dead' somehow" (I mean: Mario, Megaman, Luigi.... perhaps even King Dedede/Donkey/Diddy Kong)
@Aozz101x is possible choose what of the 3 pokemons you will use with the pokemon trainer in the rooster. you dont will able to change in the fight. So, yes, you can use just Charizard.
About Bayonetta, she was banned of championships, because she was far superior others characters. Or happened some atualization with a serious downgrade or maybe you can be missing a better way of use her moveset.
Why is Lady P not in that picture?
The roster is great. There is no way they can go UP from here. The next game on the next console either won't exisit or will have to completely reboot the franchise
This will be the best of the series, no doubt about it.
I must be an Isabelle main. I will distract my foes will cuteness.
@Radbot42 because they're considered different enough
Where is Waluigi?!
This roster looks great. This will most likely be the greatest Smash Bros game ever.
Now the data miners will soon be leaking the DLCs.
Quite possibly the best roster in the history of rosters! Piranha Plant is amazing!
That last (non dlc) fighter reveal was a bit lame.
But this isn't the final list, because of the 5 DLCs
@evilnatt I thought it was great! I was laughing sooo hard. (then I cried because no Geno... yet...)
Damn that was a crap direct.
Does nintendo really need to explain how every game works (including the options)
Something about the Piranha Plant reveal... Just disappoints me. So many other characters that could've been brought onboard as a playable character instead... Bomberman, Isaac, Waluigi, Shadow... the list goes on and on. And instead, Smash Ultimate gets a stock Mario series enemy on the roster... Maybe it's more like Smash Ultimate Trolling?
I would also be disappointed if the DLC characters require payment, instead of patching them in as a bonus to their loyal customers.
I'm old enough by now that things like this don't truly make me unhappy anymore. However, it does drive home for me that new entries of Smash Bros. aren't really exciting me anymore either, as they did 10, 17, and 19 years ago. So I will respond to this lack of excitement by not purchasing the latest entry. For those who do get into it, have fun!
Disappointed Birdo didn't make it in -_-...but I was already hooked with the inclusion of Ridley, so everyone else is just icing...a lot of icing, like a Diabeetus amount.
"Mario Tennis Aces: Luigi's got a huge 'Lunch Box'!"
Could the author or authors of the message directly above this one explain it?
Piranha Plant is a waste of so much space and should have never even been considered for the final roster. The thing is a common enemy and has no place being there over someone such as Octolings, even if that would have made it an Echo Fighter. Idiots who choose to blindly defend Piranha Plant are delusional fools, the lot of you.
Disappointing that Isaac has been relegated to being an Assist Trophy in favor of Piranha Plant marking his seventeenth year of absence from Smash Bros, but Piranha Plant looks cool, and I'm more than happy with King K. Rool, Ridley, the Belmonts, and many other newcomers. There's always DLC, not to mention Smash 6.
I am really considering to cancel my preorder. It is just too much gibberish for a fight game...
@OctoInk20 “Anyone with an opinion that’s different than mine is a moron!”
Piranha Plant looks hilarious. I’d never choose them as a playable character, but now that they’re here I can’t wait to play as them. Plus, I wanted Petey Piranha playable, and I’m kinda sorta getting that through Piranha Plant’s Final Smash! 😃
This roster is amazing and I really don’t think that anyone can complain with 80 fighters (including future DLC, Echo Fighters, Pokémon Trainer as one fighter, and Mii Fighters as 3 separate characters).
I'm so rocking Piranha Plant as my joke main. Looks fun to play and silly.
So we have characters like Incineroar, who I've got to be honest, I'd never even heard of. Characters like Cloud, who have almost no relevance to Nintendo consoles. Characters like Isabelle, who are not remotely fighting characters. The most excessive, bloated character roster ever, and yet... still no Dixie Kong!
Wow. That is a ton of game. I don't know how I could possibly find time to try and do everything in it. But I'm getting it.
They could put 100 playable characters in from the get go and some people in here would complain because it's not 110.
I've gotta disagree, Piranha Plant totally came out of left field and I love it. Even if I agreed with your opinion, I sure don't agree with yo attitude guuuuuuuurl
I flat out lost it when Piranha Plant ran across the stage. Well played Sakurai
Nobody can complain about the number or fighters but there are some odd choices (Isabelle, Piranha Plant and all the clones) and flagrant omissions (Waluigi, Dixie...).
So there's only one good new addition.
I cant complain great roster, let the game come 😊
Hahaha, the salt from the tears of crybabies knows no end. We have a game with more than 70 characters, 100 stages, many mode, great multiplayer, and they still cry because their choice character didn't make it in. Grow up.
I'm a Shantae supporter myself, along with some others like Bajo and Kazooie or Isaac,, and I don't care if she's just a spirit, or assist or not there. Piranha Plant was hilarious, Ken more than deserves his place, like all the characters, and I'll be happy to have as much fun as I can with this game
@Kosmo my sentiments exactly! Ungrateful sods. They should try writing a game on the scale of Smash before throwing around words like “only” and “skimping”...but I doubt they’ll even leave their houses.
I think it's an impressive roster of characters whatever way you look at it. The fact they have confirmed 5 DLC characters is good news for everyone that hasn't seen one of their choices from the rumoured character appear yet - they'll certainly be saving big names for the DLC to drive purchase. I don't believe they haven't started work on them yet either... they must have a shortlist drawn up already, and rights in place for potential guest characters...
I was sold on the roster simply when "everyone is here" was announced. The new additions are fine and the Piranha Plant reveal made me smile. The final direct was still a disappointment to me though. I honestly thought they would discuss the modes more. Spirits is a great evolution of event matches from past games and I can't wait to play that mode. World of Light seems to just be the event matches with a few cutscenes and some overworld style exploration thrown in. Still many questions surrounding it. Lots of modes were cut or hopefully just unannounced. Break the Targets? Homerun Smash? Stage Editor? Overall the game was always a day one for me. The online and no early access demo worry me. As someone who can barely connect my switch to my wifi which is a mere 1 room over despite my wii, wii u, and 3ds having no issue means I'll have to buy an extra piece of plastic or rely mainly on the single player content when friends arent over.
2% I can't punch sweet lil Isabelle in her adorable face! What is wrong with you?
Also who's bright idea was it, to add a stupid piranha plant?
I laughed so hard I cried when I saw that they made a friggin' piranha plant playable. At first I thought, "oh, it's like the item in Super Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8", but then the sucker started moving! That's what I love about Smash Bros. - they add characters you'd least likely to expect.
Snake ?!? Definitely pre-order for me
@3Daniel I’d say World of Light is more than just event matches considering there was a skill tree shown, seems to have light RPG mechanics.
I'm happy with the roster, and 5 more DLC characters are wlecome.
Still holding out for rayman tho
Pichu be underrated smh
"I'm really against the idea of merely creating a Smash Bros sequel that would add modes or increase the number of characters on the roster. All those sort of things that simply fatten up the game is something I'd like to avoid."
Masahiro Sakurai, 2008......
Anyone else here after the game comes out? Who's your mains right now? 😉
Somehow this is the most read article on the site right now. Neat.
This game is top-quality, but the ONLY two things I wished, was that Dry Bowser was an Echo Fighter of Bowser, and Octoling was an Echo Fighter of Inkling.
And now a wild card has been thrown into the mix
And there are no waifus to help him this time
@Super_Luigi_2004 Dry Bowser would work much better as an Alternate Skin wouldn't it? The only discernible difference is that he breathes blue aura balls instead of fireballs
Say what you will about Richter, at least he's actually a separate character, and it makes thematic sense for him to be an Echo of Simon given his origins in the series
@BlueBlur101. After playing the game, I'm actually alright with Richter, but I just wish more Nintendo Echo Fighters were added, that's my only concern. I would've even be happy if he was an alternate costume, but with blue fire. Still an awesome game.
Where are STEVE AND LOUIE. if they don't show up I will continue to main King K. Rool!
Where is waluigi?!?!
He needs to show up sooner or later
"Full List" ... doesn't include last two characters lol
@Wavey84 boy do i have good news for you
Are challenger #4 or #5 Waluigi. I don't know because I rarely play smash.
(smash roster = new test subjects)
challengers #5 and 6 (Spyro and master chief)
I hope the 2nd five dlc aren't advertising characters.
Because none of them are echo characters, they all started off as semi-clones and each game has made them more distinct from their OG counterpart, well except Young Link since Link went through a major change, Toon Link was already significantly different, same with Lucas. Echo characters are basically exactly the same in nearly every sense except for some very slight differences (some bigger than others like Ken/Ryu) but I believe their speed and weight are even the same. All of the semi-clones, except for Lucas I guess, have noticeably different weight and speed.
Does it have a story mode or is the game about mindless fights??
This game is my life now. Every day after school, i run home from xc and grind as link to get that 9.9 intensity on classic mode.
@PacMang The game does have a story mode of mindless fights. >.>
@Sean161 Gotta Catch them all! Irony that Smash is more Pokémon then Pokémon.
Edit: I seriously wish they implemented some sort of amiibo collection and functionality for Pokémon but that's Game Feak for you.
@cave_Johnson "challengers #5 and 6 (Spyro and master chief)"
Too popular and western.
I'm thinking more along the lines of Nagito Komaeda from Danganronpa. Though would love to see Monokuma.
@PacMang The story is very simple and in line with previous Smash titles. Basically what was revealed in the Smash Direct is what happens to everyone. You're then left with Kirby to fight battles to unlock characters, spirits, etc. There are some points where there are different paths and some places where there are puzzle solving or quizzes but overall its just Smash battles.
@SNES64DD I see, not very impressive overall. Thanks for the explanation!
Looking forward to Terry in November!!
I hope Challenger #5 will be Waluigi.
@SNES64DD what about Dante or a character from streets of rage.
well i hope character #5 will be doomguy.
My wanted characters:
Waluigi (just so everyone will stop complaining that he’s not in the game)
Also, I have an idea for Waluigi:
He can represent the sports side of Mario games and wear his Mario Tennis Aces outfit (after all, his first game was a Mario sports game)
Redbot for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, please
@cave_Johnson i hope character #5 will be redbot!
@RedbotforSmash I don't think that's possible son, I was thinking more of this lad right here.
more info here...
@Anti-Matter Lol I like to ride em' all
Looking at the title art... Luigi Time???
Ah, the salt mines continue to produce.
To all the people hating on Nintendo: NEWS FLASH: If you don't like the product, don't buy! Even if Nintendo only put this character in because they KNEW they were going to back a crap ton of green bags off it, nobody's holding a gun to your head saying "you have to buy this"!
Bowser Main Forever
Sephiroth is here
@KIRO You've gotta play smash. It's not an issue of genre.
@WaveWitch you're such an idiot it's insane.
What we've got to respect about nintendo is that they're a game-exclusive franchise competing with tech giants Sony and Microsoft. Like...just buy a PC and a Switch. The console war discussions here are so out of place and ignorant.
I wish they made Among Us characters in Smash bros
I here to announce that Crash Bandicoot will be competing in Smash as DLC Fighter 10 in June on E3 2021 and why.
1. Part of his 5 Year Plan.
2. Most Iconic Gaming Characters of all history.
3. He's a Perfect Japanese Western Character.
4. Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy, CTR Nitro Fueled and Crash 4: It's about time are now on the Switch.
5. He has a lot of Figures, one of them must be in Mr. Sakurai's Locked Drawer.
I hope all of most iconic game characters duke it out in super smash bros. ultimate especially Crash Bandicoot and Master Chief.
Sora! So happy he rounds out this huge masterpiece
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