Yeah, there's been some technology here and there in the past. It never really caught my attention in the past since it was in the background. But this game seems to make technology to be a prominent theme. If it was balanced out with more medieval fantasy elements I might be able to stomach it more. Like, based on what we've seen thus far, there is more technology than magic.
If Zelda had gone with the original computer chip story from day one, this wouldn't bother me at all. But because the series had established its setting as medieval fantasy, now that it's going futuristic, I fear that it's losing a large part of it's essence in the processes. Places like the magical forests or the castle town won't be the same with robots running around.
If that thing really is a spaceship as some speculate, where do we draw the line? How far is too far? Link driving a car instead of riding a horse? Link using a laser gun instead of a bow and arrow? That's not Zelda to me :/
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The more technology, the better I say. If they're going to truly change how we think about Zelda games, that'll be a good way to go about it. Thematically, at least. I honestly wouldn't mind, in the far future I guess, a Zelda with advanced technology as it's main idea. A story that takes place in a far future of hyrule.
So does anyone know who wrote the music for this game? Is it still Koji Kondo? The style is just so different from his usual work that I wouldn't be surprised if they have someone else helping out.
The more technology, the better I say. If they're going to truly change how we think about Zelda games, that'll be a good way to go about it. Thematically, at least. I honestly wouldn't mind, in the far future I guess, a Zelda with advanced technology as it's main idea. A story that takes place in a far future of hyrule.
What's the benefit of making Zelda futuristic though? I respect your opinion and I know it's a popular opinion, but I'm curious as to what the appeal is.
If Metroid's next game set in a medieval fantasy land where Samus used a bow and arrow, I'd imagine the fans would be upset. Or if Halo turned into a cop drama set in the 1940s, it would loose it's identity. Part of what fans like about series, is the world that the series creates and established. Zelda has established itself as a world of magical forests, castles, elves (hylians) and I could go on and on. That world is what Zelda is to me. To change that so radically by making it sci-fi, doesn't seem like Zelda anymore. Thankfully, while Breath of the Wild has introduced some advanced technology, it hasn't crossed the line completely (from what we've seen thus far). There are still castles, forests, swords, and magic, etc. If Zelda crossed the line, it would lose a lot of it's iconic elements. Epona would be a space pod, the bow and arrow would be a laser gun. At that point Zelda would lose its essence in my opinion. Link using a laser gun is the same as Samus using a 1920s tommy gun. I don't see the reason for it, and it's unfitting to the setting. What amount of good does it bring that outweighs the series losing its established identity?
People like Metroid for being sci-fi. People like Zelda for being fantasy. I get that change offers new things, but changing genre is really radical. If we all like Zelda for what it is, why do we want to change it's genre and setting? New lands and unique places can still be created Zelda universe without resorting to making it futuristic. I know games like Final Fantasy have changed genre, but having done it early on makes it easier. It's been established that each Final Fantasy game is it's own separate universe. Zelda isn't quite like that. If turning Dark Souls, Elder Scrolls, or Lord of the Rings into a futuristic sci-fi wouldn't make sense, then why would Zelda? A bit of high tech stuff here in there is fine, but there is a line Zelda shouldn't cross if it wants to retain it's identity. From what we've seen of Breath of the Wild, I think it's nudged that line but hasn't crossed it, as such, I'm looking forward to the game.
I respect your viewpoint, but I don't really understand why such a radical change is warranted.
Update: I'm just going to update my post here. I don't want to make more posts since I can tell that I'm annoying people with this discussion, also I don't want to throw the discussion off topic. I do not wish to annoy anyone.
@TheSuperStarSaga Metroid is a sci-fi series (well..more sci-fi than stuff like Star Wars anyway) while Zelda has always had these technological things. I feel like I posted a wall of text about this in this thread just recently tho, so I don't really feel like doing that again so soon.
Just accept that Zelda is not your traditional fantasy/medieval setting. It's always been this mix of magic and (fantastical) technology.
Zelda is just as much of a fantasy series as Elder Scrolls, Lord of the Rings, or Dark Souls. The setting of Zelda, Hyrule, is a medieval inspired kingdom for pete's sake. Hyrule is a kingdom filled with armored knights (Castle Guards, Soldiers and Darknuts), magical wizards (Wizzrobes), wood elves (Korkiri), elves (Hylians), dragons (Argorok, Volvagia), castles (Hyrule Castle, Lorule Castle), kings and princesses (Daltus, Daphness, Tuft, Zelda), blacksmiths (Link's Uncle, Link's Grandfather, The Smith family), horseback riding with jousting (Epona, the Eldin Bridge fight against King Bulblin), fairies (Navi, Great fairies), and orcs/goblins (Bulblins, Moblins). The gameplay itself is centered around medieval combat. Link uses a sword and shield (medieval weapons) to fight against enemies, he also uses a bow and arrow (medieval weapon) against enemies as well. He comes across items such as the ball and chain (medieval weapon) and magical wands and staffs (dominion rod, cane of pacci, ice rod, fire rod). I could go on and on.
You're right there has been advanced tech here and there, but that stuff has always been in the background, and never really in the forefront. The high tech elements pale in comparison to the staple fantasy elements in Zelda. A mix would imply it's 50/50. Zelda is more so 90% medieval fantasy with 10% being the odd advanced tech here and there. The small amounts of technology in the past shouldn't negate Zelda of its genre.
Does this really seem like a world where futuristic stuff is fitting?
Only recently with games like Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild, advanced tech has become a lot more prominent and numerous with ancient robots. Fortunately, neither have crossed the line completely, and Hyrule still remains a land of swords and shields in Breath of the Wild. The day Link uses a laser gun instead of a bow and arrow, is the day Zelda stops being Zelda.
If they're going to truly change how we think about Zelda games, that'll be a good way to go about it.
That would be a terrible way to go about it. Why would we want to change how think about Zelda in the way of genre? That would completely kill Zelda's identity. When we think of Metroid, we think of a cosmic sci fi setting, and that's what makes metroid what it is. When we think of Zelda, we think of a medieval fantasy setting, that's what makes Zelda what it is.
To change Zelda's to the point where it's genre changes, will result in an identity crisis. Zelda wouldn't be Zelda. That would be like wanting to change the way we think of Star Wars, so future Star Wars films/games/media is set as a crime drama in the 1940s on earth, that's not Star Wars anymore.
So does anyone know who wrote the music for this game? Is it still Koji Kondo? The style is just so different from his usual work that I wouldn't be surprised if they have someone else helping out.
So based on what we know, the degrading weapon mechanic in this game is probably my least favorite part of it so far. I've never been a fan of these types of mechanics, such as the ones in the older Fire Emblem game.
I much more prefer the weapon systems in games like Dark Souls.
@-Red- I think it works so long as the weapons are largely interchangeable. It seems like in the demo combat revolves around swinging with whatever you've got in your hand. Weapons break quickly, and there are always more lying around. It would only become a problem if you found a particularly bad*** weapon that you didn't want to waste and was super rare. Then it would just take up a slot in your inventory forever, or worse it would go in the "too good to use" inventory box that will inevitably exist.
@EOTW From a gameplay perspective, there's nothing really wrong with it, at least as far as I can tell. I've just never been a fan of these types of systems overall.
@Tsurii I'm hoping for something like that as well. Like taking weapons that you receive and possibly upgrading/repairing them at the blacksmith by using materials that you find and/or rupees. Making them stronger and more durable, and making it so they don't just disappear if they break. I think that would have a lot of potential, and be a lot of fun to mess around with.
@-Red- I'm almost certain that will be the case. When people played the demo they got weapons from chests and the like that would occasionally have special attributes, like increased durability. I bet that you can choose attributes like that to add to weapons with parts and rupees at a blacksmith.
Yeah, I don't remember a game that had weapon durability and not a repair system.
But seriously, the horse is now Yoshi. You can leap off and desert it, so I'm also sure there'll be some sort of horse morality meter in place. If you turn too many horses to glue, well, I can only spoil one word's worth:
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