Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

@CanisWolfred Once Uncharted 1 got to the zombies section and the nazi base I just turned it off for a good many years and never made it to the end. That was just dreadfully awful in every way. I finally went back to it with the remastered collection on PS4 and wanted to finally complete the whole series. It was not really worht the time. It was every bit as awful as when it started and just kept getting worse.... That was WAY too much supernatural in the series. The second did it too, but not as lengthy a section.

Tell me about it. I had to dedicate the entire night to finishing it off, because I knew if I stopped, I'd never go back.

@CanisWolfred Good to hear. Hyper Light Drifter was one of my highlights of last year. Loved the soundtrack and pixel art. It's indeed a bit like 2D Zelda, but more obscure and more difficult.

@NEStalgia @CanisWolfred (stares at unopened copy of uncharted collection) ....ya'll are really making me not want to play this...

@Octane Sorry! tagged the wrong person.

@CanisWolfred Resources are definitely less of a concern in Infinite. There's more of an emphasis on using the skyhook thing to kill enemies, and Elizabeth will magick supplies from the ether when you're running low in a battle.

It's fun. Much less dark and horror-ish than the previous games, and the plot goes... interesting places. You'll see what I mean.

@NEStalgia I really love how grounded Uncharted 4 is in comparison to the other games. The supernatural plot elements in Uncharted games always end up feeling lazy and out of place.

@Ryu_Niiyama Haha, Uncharted 2 is excellent (mostly) Uncharted 3 is fantastic. Uncharted 1....meh, it's skippable.

Honestly ANYTHING starring Claudia Black really goes in the can't-miss bin. So skip 1, play the rest. Including the upcoming stand-alone expansion to 4 that stars her as the PRIMARY protagonist

Spoiler: Uncharted one has a great intro with some story setup, then becomes a dull "shoot everything like it's Hogan's Alley" game for most of the story, with a predictable betrayal sequence. The submarine was cool, but was an omen of what comes later. Once you get to the monastery it takes a turn for the worse with a really lengthy, really dull, really repetitive segment on a really poorly designed map that would have been at home in Quake 1 but is somehow not as cool. After that you get to a nazi base which is amazingly, inexplicably horrible and bland with samey looking dimly lit corridors and amazingly bad "shoot all the zombies as they swarm the room over and over again and if you get overwhelmed you have to go back to the beginning of it" segment. Then there was forgettable stuff after that with a bland "boss" that's an annoying scripted (not QTE) event.

The first one had too little story to save it from the bland "shoot endless waves in samey environments" segments. But they definitely MASSIVELY improved the series in the second.

Yeah, Uncharted 2 on seemed to have improved on things. I even grabbed The Golden Abyss for the Vita, because I figure it'd be fun to play the next time I go visit my relatives.

Yep. The previous Tomb Raider (2013) did that same thing. Gets half way through and then essentially goes "and it was all because of [supernatural thing]"
Supernatural stuff is hard to get right in fiction. You need to weave it into the logic of the story. Not just use it to fill in answers to the plot.
Uncharted 4 had the best story imo.

I think the reason Uncharted 4 was so good is because it took itself seriously from a story perspective. Two and three did to an extent, but when you're making games that are pretty much interactive movies with gameplay very few people care about, the story should definitely be good, and not just a happy-go-lucky adventure. On the other hand, that was quite a bit of the charm of the games, at least for me, so I'm kind of torn on that front.

Maybe it was for the best. I'm not sure they could have made a compelling, serious story 4 times in a row.

@KirbyTheVampire Well, more than the story, they took Nathan Drake seriously and deconstructed his whole "treasure hunter" persona. It all worked really well in the context of the series as a whole.

Also, the action is more varied, the climbing controls much more smoothly. It was, overall, just a much more pleasant experience.

@CanisWolfred Golden Abyss was actually really good. That's from the days when Vita had promise. I loved that one way more than 1.

@Dezzy Ugh, yeah, Tomb Radier. Fantastic first half of the game.....really awful last portion. Once it got to the supernatural it killed most of the world. Granted that one DID give you significant hints all throughout in the notes and letters you found around so it wasn't a big "out of nowhere" explanation. They tried to weave it into the logic with ancient writings about the island...but...they still put it together badly. Though, it's Tomb Raider, it's always had a supernatural element. But not quite like that. I'm curious if the XB Exclusive sequel is any better with that.

I loved 4 and it's more subdued story. Though I hate when characters are just exceedingly stupid for the sake of a plot twist. The old "oh come on the box is shaking and growling, and I read 8 letters and heard from 3 people of the evil creature trapped inside, but I still KNOW it's just filled with gold so I'm going to open it anyway" kind of dumb character decisions. Big Bro's idiocy at times knew no bounds just to create story devices.

I think 3 & 4 both have excellent stories. 2 was great in the first half but ran a little aside itself in the second half. But was still good...unlike 1 that just became "screw it and make an id game for the last half."

Yeah, I never read those.

I read enough books. Don't like spending gaming time feeling like I'm doing the same. I need exposition provided in a game-like format of some kind.

@NEStalgia The Vita is a fantastic handheld if you don't care about mainstream games. It has received pretty regular support for years now.

@Ralizah That depends on how you define "mainstream games" If you mean COD and Resident Evil, none of my favorite systems get those. Off the beaten track games certainly come to the 3DS in spades. Vita seems mostly flooded with "really Japanese niche games that even most Japanese people don't want to play" For years I looked at the Vita release lists and though "eww, who buys this?" I don't exactly have mainstream tastes in games but I'm not THAT ecclectic. Few are. Which is why Vita sales are what they are

@Dezzy Haha, sort of fair enough. I happen to love text filled games that read like novels. I love DQ7 for that reason. (I know, me, loving text....who would have guessed? ), but it depends on the game and how it's presented. If it's just vast "library data" you could spend months going through like an encyclopedia I don't bother. If it's character notes, scribbled diaries, and excerpts of ancient texts researches paperclipped to a journal I'll read them closely. They put LOTS of information about the odd goings on throughout the game and mentions of the ancient goddess etc that if you read that you knew "something's not natural here" from the beginning. But then when you just had weird ogre giant demon things in the levels it still got stupid.

@NEStalgia The Vita has received a lot of fantastic software support. Some of it, yes, falls into the pandering otaku game category, but a lot of it doesn't. It certainly has a far more diverse and expansive library than people give it credit for.

And the Vita failed for a variety of reasons. A lack of high-quality software wasn't one of them.

I think it's probably fair to say that the Vita will become even more of a cult system in the future, a sort of handheld Dreamcast.

The Switch's library is going to start eerily resembling the Vita's once the Japanese adopt it en masse, and I can't wait to have all of my Atlus games, visual novels, anime games, indies, and Nintendo first-party titles on one glorious system.

@Ralizah I've certainly yet to see that non-otaku part of the expansive library (and no, I'm not including indies, that's its own thing.) I abandoned Vita for WiiU when it came out....that kind of says something right there I think Vita fans are so into the niche of content it gets they don't realize JUST how niche that niche is There's the weird niche of games that went to 3DS, and then there's the REALLY weird niche of games that went to Vita. As more moved to 3DS the Vita stuff tended to get stranger and more obscure.

I'm hoping the Switch gets the "good" kind that doesn't depend on being an anime otaku to get into, understand or desire. The kind that has less that 5 subtitles

@NEStalgia Square Enix is on the system. We are getting 3 subtitles minimum

I'm just holding onto my Vita at this point on the hope that it gets hacked properly in the next few years and I can use it as an emulator for everything prior to it.

@NEStalgia Western indies are as much a part of the system's library as anything else, so it makes no sense to exclude them. That would be like saying Snake Pass doesn't count as a part of the Switch's library because it's a multiplat indie. But, for the sake of argument, I'll not list them.

You're still left with, off the top of my head:
Gravity Rush
Tearaway
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Danganronpa 1, 2, and Ultra Despair Girls
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
World of Final Fantasy
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F and F 2nd
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2
J-Stars Victory VS+
Dead or Alive 5 Plus
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 and 2
The entire Zero Escape trilogy
Dragon's Crown
Persona 4 Golden and Persona 4: Dancing All Night
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Demon Gaze
Freedom Wars
Rayman Origins and Legends
Child of Light
Soul Sacrifice
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster
Metal Gear Solid Collection (Sons of Liberty and Snake Eater)
Soul Sacrifice
Lumines: Electronic Symphony
Ys: Memories of Celceta and Ys: Lacrimosa of Dana
Yomawari: Night Alone and Yomawari: Midnight Shadows
Super Stardust Delta
Wipeout 2048
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Mortal Kombat
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Lost Dimension
Disgaea 3 and 4 (complete editions, like the version of 5 the Switch got recently)
The Caligula Effect
Tokyo Xanadu

There are, of course, a lot of games I'm neglecting to mention, and this is ignoring the HUGE amount of otaku-oriented and Western indie games on the system. And this is ignoring PSP and PS1 games that are playable on the system.

I can't think of even half as many good games on the Wii U.

EDIT: How could I forget Adventures of Mana? I JUST played it.

@BLP_Software LOL, when I posted that I was actually going to make an addendum (*Excludes Square-Enix Titles.) Then I figured nobody would notice.....

@Dezzy Why? It already has all the PS1 titles legit, and the PS4 is the official place to play PS2 and PS3 games for $60 each And PSP games just wouldn't be the same without the shrill re-tracking of the UMD drive.