Topic: Kinect vs Move

The tech, however, is so different that no lawsuit can be filed against Sony

Nah, you're wrong. The Move is a far superior motion controller than even MotionPlus.

Lets see Skittles the happy pilled Tiger or ARC??

I wanna see what FPS's are for Kinect... make your finger into a gun???

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Everything seems to point to that it's not. For example, Tiger Woods reviews said there wasn't any noticeable difference between the versions.

My personal expeience of the Move, and that of my colleagues, is that it is the superior technology.

Just because one game makes poor use of the technology does not set a precadent, you know. The fact that Move makes use of an actual camera alone makes it a technology that and do more than the Wii motion will ever do. It's up to developers to use those additional capabilities.

I agree there... the camera is exactly like you said - additional capabilities. But the motion itself is not superior. It's not like Wii has inferior gyroscopes. From what I read, the ones in WM+ are actually better, although perhaps not noticeable. Anyway, my bet is that 3rd parties especially will not know how to use the extra features in any enjoyable or flawless way, and for what it counts, it's kidna pointless.

except there is more to kroon controls than gyroscopes. The reason the wii has the sensor bar, and the reason kinect and move use cameras is to properly interperate a players movements and actions. It's already been proven that the Move's tech is way ahead in this regard- and it shows in simple things like table tennis where it's possible, with the Move, to adjust how you hold the paddle - something then Wiimote can't do, because it has no idea what the player is doing.

As for your other claims of 'copying'... Improving on an original concept (and Move is more ergonomic thanthe Wiimote) is the exact reason we fly in jet planes now, and not the Wright brothers original design. Imporvement is a good thing.

The Wii sensor bar is used for pointer (and this will be done without lag), it's not the movement itself. WM+ once it's calibrated and you follow your movement on the screen also knows exactly how you hold the paddle. Table Tennis WM+ does it very well.

Ridicilous comparison. Here it's not even clear it's an improvement at all. It's different technology with more lag, which Nintendo as we know actually rejected. And the Nunchuk is the only device here which is actually ergonomic. Others are more/less comfortable.

If you say so my friend. There is however something called design patents, and on the face of it, the sub controller is a blatant infringement.

Early trailers of Natal showed people picking up skateboards and stuff like that. Why not just make toy guns accessories with a button that works like a 360 controller button and that you can hold.

let's see the lawsuit and injunction against sales, then.

What? No it doesn't. Hold it at the right angle and they think your holding it the other way.

Lets face it, Move is superior, though the light ball on the end is gonna be the biggest challenge.

Thats what it seems like.

I would pick up a big Nerf gun and cover it in duct tape.

@mnementh.... http://www.movemodo.com/news/2010/09/move_tech_demos_show_war...

Take yourself over here to the sister site and watch the Move Tech Demos for yourself and see it firsthand.

Wii uses a IR as Im sure you know, so it does in fact follow your motions just like a mouse on a computer and can navigate some depth as well, but when it comes.... lets see you took Table Tennis for example, in Resort (wich I own and enjoy myself) yes, you can move you paddle around, etc but when you actually swing the remote the Wii reads the motion as a button press, wich in turn makes your paddle swing.

With Move there is no Motion = Button Press = On Screen Action. The camera can track exactly what your doing with the controller just as your standing there with a paddle in your hand playing and you actually interact with the ball and table instead of placing motion controls acting as buttons. Its a big improvement that takes a lot of technology and power to produce and at a very expensive cost to the consumer and Im sure the developer. The scope of what could eventually be done with this technology is enormous and only time will tell.

Kinect on the other hand is technology taken to a whole new level. Placing your body into the game is fantastic. Hard to really say too much about it as the majority of the software shown was not very good, but the future for Kinect could be incredible, though I think a controller of sorts will definatley come into play, as the lack of buttons shows itself with auto acceleration in the driving games, some kinda of extra inputs will be needed to draw in full control of games. Im sure Microsoft will work it all out really fast.

Wii is incredible, very few will tell you that it isnt here. Its showing its age and the new age of expensive high end motion control is now upon us and of course if will be better than what been on the market for years. Say what you want but its a fact that is proving itself quickly.

the wii doesn't read the motion as button presses. You move the controller the paddle or sword moves just like your movement. You might have pre animated stuff for games for convenience use, but move does the same thing for many games like the reviewers said. the technology hasn't really impresed so far though kinect has potential.
Generally the not wii sports game got 70+ on metacritic (not anything to be excited about) and some said it might be more accurate for some of the games but lots of calibrating and recalibrating issues. Some youtube videos of the not wii boxing game showed almost unplayable lag.

Kinect looks interesting, but i could hardly see it put into games positively. I wouldn't mind if in the future we all had Kinects to control our Tech, but for games you need some type of tactile input. Or so I think.

Move looks OK. Im sure its just basically WM+ done differently with maybe some extra features, but I just dont see it becoming a trend.

reading some reviews of move games like kung fu rider (38 on metacritic) and the anticipated tumble, I just find this all thing hilarious. But it reminds me i need to play boom blox one day... You know, the better and original versions of those games. it's unbelievable how quickly sony shifted here and the smugness and hypocrisy as well as exploiting its fanbase for buying someone they were convinced that they never wanted... That takes cognitive magic really or obnoxious marketing.

Its not about how advanced the tech is its how good the games are and if companies put effort in those games they can produce MASTERPIECES!! OKAY

Yes, yes you do. Immedietely. ASAP. More specifically, get Boom Blox Bash Party. Now. Do it.